Re: 10 years on: Capitalism brings ruin to Russia - no, 40 years [WWW.STOPNAT

2001-12-09 Thread Rolf Martens

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At 03:27 2001-12-08 -0800, Richard Roper wrote:

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It's of crucial importance at this time to realise
what happened in Afghanistan for obvious reasons.

I am amazed by this type of comment on this site.

Jimmy Carter signed for large scale Covert Operations
against Afghanistan on 3rd July 1979, six months
before the intervention. This is all from the horse's
mouth - Zbigniew Brisinski - who also wrote Carter a
note on the same day saying it would produce Soviet
inteventionism.

We should also be aware of Krushchev's - essentially
he was trying to do a deal economically with America -
but this is far being socio-imperialism.


So of course it was *Carter and Brezinski* (US)
who invaded Afghanistan in 1979, eventually had
100,000+ troops there, devastated large parts
of the country, forced some 5 millions to flee,
etc, etc, and not the Soviet social-imperialists!
Their scumbag oh-so-communist friends, who
kept applauding this brotherly help had nothing
to do with this either, huh? Not one bit better than
the US (traditionally-)imperialist murderers are
those people; this it's imperative that everyone
sees today too.

Rolf M.

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Re: 10 years on: Capitalism brings ruin to Russia - no, 40 years [WWW.STOPNAT

2001-12-09 Thread Richard Roper

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Well I don't know why you are a member of this list.

As it happens I am not a communist.

Well yes, it was Carter and Brisinki who invaded
Afganistan in July 1979 - it's just they did it in a
Covert Operation - caused five million to flee,
devestated large parts of the country, built up a huge
para-miltary force etc. etc. This is the fairly
standard description of a country subjected to a
protracted Covert Intervention. 

It was the largest operation of the CIA since Vietnam,
millions of dollars were spent on it, and
unparralleled propaganda operations took place in its
support.

The Soviet mistake was to try to fight a conventional
war themselves, but this, and the intervention itself,
had been the US. intention to provke. 
See the horse's mouth, Brisinski admits it, Quote 
but surely you have some regrets...,  No, it was a
real smart idea!.

It is imperative that this is realised today and there
are no distractions from Right-Leftists who are in
fact doing the dirty work of imperialism.




--- Rolf Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
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 At 03:27 2001-12-08 -0800, Richard Roper wrote:
 
 ---
 
 It's of crucial importance at this time to realise
 what happened in Afghanistan for obvious reasons.
 
 I am amazed by this type of comment on this site.
 
 Jimmy Carter signed for large scale Covert
 Operations
 against Afghanistan on 3rd July 1979, six months
 before the intervention. This is all from the
 horse's
 mouth - Zbigniew Brisinski - who also wrote Carter
 a
 note on the same day saying it would produce Soviet
 inteventionism.
 
 We should also be aware of Krushchev's -
 essentially
 he was trying to do a deal economically with
 America -
 but this is far being socio-imperialism.
 
 
 So of course it was *Carter and Brezinski* (US)
 who invaded Afghanistan in 1979, eventually had
 100,000+ troops there, devastated large parts
 of the country, forced some 5 millions to flee,
 etc, etc, and not the Soviet social-imperialists!
 Their scumbag oh-so-communist friends, who
 kept applauding this brotherly help had nothing
 to do with this either, huh? Not one bit better than
 the US (traditionally-)imperialist murderers are
 those people; this it's imperative that everyone
 sees today too.
 
 Rolf M.
 

 


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