[AOLSERVER] ns_vhr command not working from a .tcl script for me

2003-03-05 Thread madhusudhanarao sunkara
hi,

ns_vhr command is not working for me, when it is embedded in .tcl script
the server is responding with error something like
  invalid command name ns_vhr update ..
but when i tried it with nscp it is working . is it restricted for
server control port  admin ..
what changes shall i make to my tcl script to work
Madhu Sudhana Rao
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Re: [AOLSERVER] virtual hosting options and a fantasy ....

2003-03-05 Thread Edward Wilson
It concerns me seriously when virtual hosting was at
one time supported, then taken out, now being put back
in by the volunteer society.  Once I implement a
solution, I need to know that certain necessary
features aren't going to go away leaving me without a
work-a-round.

Why would the AOL team think so selfishly by removing
virtual hosting?  Do they not care that others rely on
their server?

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Re: [AOLSERVER] virtual hosting options and a fantasy ....

2003-03-05 Thread Bas Scheffers
Edward Wilson said:
 Why would the AOL team think so selfishly by removing
 virtual hosting?  Do they not care that others rely on
 their server?
You are quite passionate about this, aren't you? ;-) Although there was
virtual serving in 2.3, it was not hostname based. Personaly, I find that
instead of putting extra directives in one config file, moving them to
different config files and having some more lines in my start-up scripts
not really a big deal and certainly not something that significantly
breaks moving code from 2.3 to 3.0. The trade off is worth it considering
how much more lean and mean 3+ is! As an added bonus you get a completely
seperate environment!

I don't find AOL selfish at all for making any changes, they build a
kick-ass server for themselves and share it with the world, thank you very
much. They will not make application breaking changes because they are
their own major client and don't want to break their own apps. Looking at
the track record, maintaining almost 100% code compatibility from 1995 to
2003 (dispite architecture changes) is unheard of in the world of web
application servers!

Bas.

PS: You are perfectly welcome to still run 2.3 if you want to! ;-)



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Re: [AOLSERVER] virtual hosting options and a fantasy ....

2003-03-05 Thread Nathan Folkman
We're trying! ;-) Virtual server and Win32 support are two good
examples of our renewed commitment to trying to better balance internal
needs and requirements with those of the Community at large. It's not
always going to be perfect, and we won't always be able to satisfy
everyone, but we are committed to maintaining a more open dialogue with
everyone. Thanks to everyone who has stuck with us over the years, and
who continue to help us improve the server.
- Nathan

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:53 AM, Daniel P. Stasinski wrote:

With the core team in place, development emphasis is now based on
both the needs of AOL as well as those of the community.  With
that, needed features are being re-implemented.


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Re: [AOLSERVER] ns_vhr command not working from a .tcl script for me

2003-03-05 Thread Jerry Asher
madhusudhanarao sunkara wrote:

hi,

ns_vhr command is not working for me, when it is embedded in .tcl script
the server is responding with error something like
  invalid command name ns_vhr update ..
but when i tried it with nscp it is working . is it restricted for
server control port  admin ..
what changes shall i make to my tcl script to work
This is surprising to me, but then I am not sure I ever used it from
anything other than the nscp command line.  I love the nscp command
line.  (Back when I was a kid, we had to wget | cat all of our web
pages.)
I haven't looked at this code in more than a year, and, I am trying not
to use it now in fact.  I don't have time to look at it now.
A first glance at the code itself, and I don't see anything that should
restrict it to just the control port.  Also, invalid command does not
appear in the code, although unknown command does.
Best of luck, I am interested in knowing what you find out.

Jerry



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Re: [AOLSERVER] virtual hosting options and a fantasy ....

2003-03-05 Thread Larry W. Virden
From: Edward Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Once I implement a
 solution, I need to know that certain necessary
 features aren't going to go away leaving me without a
 work-a-round.

You may want to investigate alternatives to getting free
software from a public server or cvs.

Some alternatives include:
1. purchasing a server - but then, you still don't have the certainty
that you require I guess.

2. purchasing support - then at least you could work with someone
to reimplement features that are missing

3. freeze at a particular version of the software that meets your
needs, and just live with bugs and without new features,
or even attempt to 'back port' fixes and features to your
frozen version yourself.

4. write your own server.

3 of the 4 can give you the assurances you need.
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Re: [AOLSERVER] virtual hosting options and a fantasy ....

2003-03-05 Thread Tom Jackson
Edward Wilson wrote:

Why would the AOL team think so selfishly by removing
virtual hosting?  Do they not care that others rely on
their server?

Nothing was lost in removing virtual hosting, except the difficulty of
mantaining
a single config file for all those hosts. Since each server  takes up as
much memory
running separately as when combined, resources are not saved. This is
very different
from Apache which could easily run thousands of virtual hosts without
increasing
memory useage (since is spawned a new process for each request anyway).
With
the style of virtual hosting in the pre 3.0 series, any change to a
virtual server would require
a restart of the entire process, bringing down every virtual host in the
process. Since each
virtual server was initialized separately, the time to restart was
proportional to the number of
virtual servers.
I don't know what the current situation is with the new implimentation,
but if it is the same, I can't see
why it would be useful. I believe the config file problems are greatly
reduced.
In the mean time several users, including myself, developed virtual
hosting using registered filters. This proved
to be very efficient, even when written in tcl.
--Tom Jackson



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[AOLSERVER] nsopenssl 2.1 allergic to RedHat 8.0?

2003-03-05 Thread Peter M. Jansson
I updated one of my systems to RH 8.0, and then updated OpenSSL to 0.9.7,
and now I'm having trouble compiling nsopenssl 2.1 from the tarball on
ScottG's site.  Anyone else have similar troubles?  I'm digging in to try
to figure it out, but I thought I'd ask the crew, in case someone else has
an answer.
One difference is that OpenSSL 0.9.6 appears to define a symbol THREADS
to indicate that OpenSSL was built for threads, while OpenSSL 0.9.7
defines OPENSSL_THREADS, but that's easy enough to fix.  I'm guessing
most of my troubles are coming from a newer gcc being a little more
pedantic (which I didn't think was possible).
Thanks,
   Pete.


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Re: [AOLSERVER] nsopenssl 2.1 allergic to RedHat 8.0?

2003-03-05 Thread Scott Goodwin
John Caruso pointed this out a couple of weeks ago. Read below:

From: John Caruso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003  5:57:14  PM US/Central
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test for THREADS in thread.c (in nsopenssl 2.1)
I'm in the process of (re)building nsopenssl 2.1 using openssl 0.9.7a,
and I ran into one problem.  In thread.c there's the following test:
   #ifndef THREADS
   #error OpenSSL was not compiled with thread support!
   #endif
But it appears that in openssl 0.9.7a the macro name is now
OPENSSL_THREADS, not THREADS (and they also don't reference
OPENSSL_THREAD_DEFINES anymore to determine whether or not to set
this--it's set unconditionally).  I checked the nsopenssl 2.2beta7
tarball and it looks like it hasn't been updated to reflect the changed
macro name either.
I got around it by defining CFLAGS=-DTHREADS before the compilation,
but long-term I'm assuming you'll want to change this in the code.
- John



On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 04:27  PM, Peter M. Jansson wrote:

I updated one of my systems to RH 8.0, and then updated OpenSSL to
0.9.7,
and now I'm having trouble compiling nsopenssl 2.1 from the tarball on
ScottG's site.  Anyone else have similar troubles?  I'm digging in to
try
to figure it out, but I thought I'd ask the crew, in case someone else
has
an answer.
One difference is that OpenSSL 0.9.6 appears to define a symbol
THREADS
to indicate that OpenSSL was built for threads, while OpenSSL 0.9.7
defines OPENSSL_THREADS, but that's easy enough to fix.  I'm guessing
most of my troubles are coming from a newer gcc being a little more
pedantic (which I didn't think was possible).
Thanks,
   Pete.


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Re: [AOLSERVER] virtual hosting options and a fantasy ....

2003-03-05 Thread Dossy
On 2003.03.05, Jeff Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And I would be glad to provide you full aolserver support with
 customizations for the small sum of raise_pinkyone mellion
 dollars/raise_pinky.  ;^)

Uh, sir, Vignette Corporation already makes a Tcl-enabled application
server for several million dollars already.

/me waits for the raisePinkyone HUNDRED melion
dollars/raisePinky response.

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Re: [AOLSERVER] virtual hosting options and a fantasy ....

2003-03-05 Thread Edward Wilson
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend the Aol server Team; I
do thank them for their generosity.

I misunderstood something I read--sorry once again.

Thank you everyone for not flaming me off-line.

Best wishes to all!

--
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Re: [AOLSERVER] AS 4.0 (beta 2) running on privledge port

2003-03-05 Thread Peter M. Jansson
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 07:20 PM, Brett Schwarz wrote:

However, NsPreBind does
nothing is the -b or -B option are not given, when, I believe it should
pre bind anyways from what is given in the config file. I could be wrong
here.
My inittab line:

ww:345:respawn:/usr/local/aolserver-4.0/bin/nsd -i -b 192.168.1.239:80 -u
web -g web -t /usr/local/aolserver-4.0/click.tcl
You must specify the -b on the command line,  It does work.



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[AOLSERVER] ANNOUNCE: DNS Module

2003-03-05 Thread Vlad Seryakov
Some time ago somebody mentioned(sorry i did not save the message, do not
remember the name) about DNS module for AOLserver,
it happened i implemented DNS server before for another project so i figured
i can quickly write simple DNS server module.
Actually it was fun for the last couple days after writing mostly Web
applications to do something low-level in C.
So, the first version of nsdns module is released.
Briefly it is simple server and DNS proxy in one, it serves it own records
and forwards everything else to remote DNs server. All replies are cached
locally.
That's basically it.

To download: ftp://ftp.crystalballinc.com/pub/vlad/nsdns.tar.gz



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