Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
rob Unfortunately, that's not the documentation for my module. AOLserver 2.3 rob had an ns_cache Tcl command, but it was removed in AOLserver 3. I don't rob know why it was removed. It was orignally developed for an internal AOL customer with some requirements that really contorted the implementation (which I must admit wasn't my best work either) ++Mark Dalrymple, http://badgertronics.com i have many thoughts. some of them involve dragons and midgets, but mostly they're about spiderman and how he stole my act -- Talli
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
This appears to be collateral damage from the arsDigita collapse. I too could not find the download anywhere just now (AOLServer, OpenACS, OpenNSD, Rob Mayoff search on google, ns_cache search on google, Scott Goodwin's site (www.scottg.net), the AOLServer Wiki (http://www.panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver/), ...). Luckily I downloaded ns_cache long ago from arsdigita, and recently compiled and installed it. It works very well, and IMHO is a very useful API. (Rob Mayoff wrote it I believe, and incorporated a very powerful automated test engine as well - worth looking at in its own right. But sounds like Rob is now doing other things, so maybe ns_cache has inadvertently become an orphan.) Documentation is included in the tarball. I don't have a permanently-on-line server yet so I can't make it available myself, but it would be better if it were on an official site anyway. Using google I did find this location serving the documentation page, which will whet your appetite until you get the code: http://java.cms.livjm.ac.uk/local/as23docs/html/tapi-c22.htm Does anyone know where the latest version now resides? My copy declares it is version 1.1, and it appears to date from October 2000. I'll send it to anyone interested. Can someone put it onto the OpenACS server? Any reason not to? Dave Siktberg Call me dumb, but I just went to the AOL documentation page and still can't find anything on ns_cache. There are 4 ns_cache_ routines to do miscellaneous things, but nothing to explain ns_cache itself. So I grepped the source I have (3.4), and found the C routines to do anything you could possibly want with a cache, plus a new undocumented TCL routine ns_cache_keys, but no ns_cache. So I went to www.aolserver.com and looked around, figuring maybe it was a module add-on. Eventually found the module page after 5-6 clicks, but still no ns_cache. I'm not complaining, because this isn't particularly important to me, but I can't imagine a relatively new AOLServer developer figuring any of this out. I'm lost, and I've been developing on it for 8 years. Oh well... back to my 5 lines of code I guess. Jim Yeah, vaguely. I went looking for documentation etc. one time, got kinda lost, and gave up. For an interface/feature to compete with 5 lines of TCL code, it has to be pretty damn easy to use and in my face. It was taking me longer to track down information on ns_cache than it would take to enter the 5 lines of code, so I gave up. Jim, are you aware that AOLserver 3 has C API for caches that automatically flush outdated entries and automatically evict LRU entries to limit memory use, and that there's an ns_cache module that provides a Tcl layer for the C API? +-- On Jul 30, Jim Wilcoxson said: Just roll your own cache, whereever you need it, or put it in a routine:
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
My copy declares it is version 1.1, and it appears to date from October 2000. I'll send it to anyone interested. It took some hunting last week but I did find 1.0. I would love a copy of 1.1 Thanks, Daniel P. Stasinski Software Engineer Mayor Pharmaceutical Laboratories [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:58:11AM -0400, Dave Siktberg wrote: This appears to be collateral damage from the arsDigita collapse. I too could not find the download anywhere just now (AOLServer, OpenACS, OpenNSD, Rob Mayoff search on google, ns_cache search on google, Scott Goodwin's site (www.scottg.net), the AOLServer Wiki (http://www.panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver/), ...). Luckily I downloaded ns_cache long ago from arsdigita, and recently compiled and installed it. It works very well, and IMHO is a very useful API. (Rob Mayoff wrote it I believe, and incorporated a very powerful automated test engine as well - worth looking at in its own right. But sounds like Rob is now doing other things, so maybe ns_cache has inadvertently become an orphan.) It appears that ns_cache has indeed become an orphan. Maybe there are other modules from the ArsDigita release that never made it into the sourceforge CVS. The OpenACS project has the AOLserver 3.3ad13 tarball on http://openacs.org/software.adp. Perhaps someone with sourceforge CVS access would care to commit it to sourceforge in the add-ons area? -Roberto -- +| http://fslc.usu.edu/ USU Free Software GNU/Linux Club |--+ Roberto Mello - Computer Science, USU - http://www.brasileiro.net/ http://www.sdl.usu.edu/ - Space Dynamics Lab, Developer Virus-checker message: MS-Windows found...delete?(Y/Y)
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
On Wednesday 31 July 2002 09:08 am, you wrote: My copy declares it is version 1.1, and it appears to date from October 2000. I'll send it to anyone interested. It took some hunting last week but I did find 1.0. I would love a copy of 1.1 a copy of nscache1.1 is included in the openacs's aolserver distribution, which is includes other aD patches/modules. -kapil
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
I've passed Rob's nscache module to Kris and asked him to import it into the AOLserver CVS tree at SourceForge. /s. On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:21:58 -0500, Rob Mayoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: +-- On Jul 31, Dave Siktberg said: Using google I did find this location serving the documentation page, which will whet your appetite until you get the code: http://java.cms.livjm.ac.uk/local/as23docs/html/tapi-c22.htm Unfortunately, that's not the documentation for my module. AOLserver 2.3 had an ns_cache Tcl command, but it was removed in AOLserver 3. I don't know why it was removed. I did not know about 2.3's ns_cache command when I wrote the nscache module, so the ns_cache command in the nscache module does not have the same syntax as the ns_cache command in 2.3. I have put the last version of nscache on my web page: http://dqd.com/~mayoff/aolserver/#nscache The documentation is here: http://dqd.com/~mayoff/aolserver/src/nscache/index.html This is version 1.1, though it isn't marked as such. I encourage any interested party to put the code in sourceforge or some other repository. -- Scott Goodwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scottg.net
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
I looked in that tarball but not closely enough - though there are no files named nscache* or ns_cache*, there is a directory named nscache, and the key program file is named tclcache.c. a copy of nscache1.1 is included in the openacs's aolserver distribution, which is includes other aD patches/modules. -kapil
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
Jim, are you aware that AOLserver 3 has C API for caches that automatically flush outdated entries and automatically evict LRU entries to limit memory use, and that there's an ns_cache module that provides a Tcl layer for the C API? +-- On Jul 30, Jim Wilcoxson said: Just roll your own cache, whereever you need it, or put it in a routine:
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
Call me dumb, but I just went to the AOL documentation page and still can't find anything on ns_cache. There are 4 ns_cache_ routines to do miscellaneous things, but nothing to explain ns_cache itself. So I grepped the source I have (3.4), and found the C routines to do anything you could possibly want with a cache, plus a new undocumented TCL routine ns_cache_keys, but no ns_cache. So I went to www.aolserver.com and looked around, figuring maybe it was a module add-on. Eventually found the module page after 5-6 clicks, but still no ns_cache. I'm not complaining, because this isn't particularly important to me, but I can't imagine a relatively new AOLServer developer figuring any of this out. I'm lost, and I've been developing on it for 8 years. Oh well... back to my 5 lines of code I guess. Jim Yeah, vaguely. I went looking for documentation etc. one time, got kinda lost, and gave up. For an interface/feature to compete with 5 lines of TCL code, it has to be pretty damn easy to use and in my face. It was taking me longer to track down information on ns_cache than it would take to enter the 5 lines of code, so I gave up. Jim, are you aware that AOLserver 3 has C API for caches that automatically flush outdated entries and automatically evict LRU entries to limit memory use, and that there's an ns_cache module that provides a Tcl layer for the C API? +-- On Jul 30, Jim Wilcoxson said: Just roll your own cache, whereever you need it, or put it in a routine:
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
+-- On Jul 30, Jim Wilcoxson said: I'm not complaining, because this isn't particularly important to me, but I can't imagine a relatively new AOLServer developer figuring any of this out. I'm lost, and I've been developing on it for 8 years. The ns_cache module was part of the ArsDigita release. I think it was also downloadable separately. I don't know if it ever made it to sourceforge.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Seeking ns_cache configuration advice
Thanks Rob. -J +-- On Jul 30, Jim Wilcoxson said: I'm not complaining, because this isn't particularly important to me, but I can't imagine a relatively new AOLServer developer figuring any of this out. I'm lost, and I've been developing on it for 8 years. The ns_cache module was part of the ArsDigita release. I think it was also downloadable separately. I don't know if it ever made it to sourceforge.
