Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-09 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Apache bug database [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:  Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host,
 first number in dotted quads
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 10:38:43 -0400

 Glenn Fleishman wrote:
  
   Unfortunately, I am not sophisticated enough to figure out where to put
   -lresolv reference. The new Configuration stuff is great, but I can't
   figure out where you modify library tags like I used to. Any advice would
   be useful, as I assume other SunOS users have the potential to have this
   error, too.
 
 By new Configuration stuff I assume you mean the ./configure script.
 That's an alternate method, not a replacement for what you're used
 to using.  You can still modify your Configuration file and then
 do a ./Configure; make to build the server - that hasn't changed.
 
 #ken   P-)}
 
 Ken Coarhttp://Web.Golux.Com/coar/
 Apache Group member http://www.apache.org/
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Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-08 Thread dgaudet
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Synopsis: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

State-Changed-From-To: open-feedback
State-Changed-By: dgaudet
State-Changed-When: Sun Jun  7 23:26:51 PDT 1998
State-Changed-Why:
waiting to find out if the patch I sent does the job



Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-08 Thread Glenn Fleishman
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first
 number in dotted quads
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:57:20 -0800

 Installing the revision 1.34 patch did it! No problems. Removing the bind
 library includes reduced the binary back to reasonable size, too (about
 500K, which is unbelievably small for how much it does).
 
 Thanks so much for the help! You can close this ticket.
 
 (I'm experiencing an unrelated problem, I hope, that I have another ticket
 open for - mod_usertrack doesn't appear to be reading existing Cookie's
 correctly...I'm hoping it's unrelated.)


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-08 Thread Glenn Fleishman
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first
 number in dotted quads
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:21:11 -0800

 Sorry, I was wrong about one thing. The code change in user track now makes
 visit cookies (Apache=) that weren't in the same format as 1.2. In 1.2,
 just the first part (hostname or first number in dotted quad) were
 concatenated with the tick counter. But with this code change, the logging
 now works (I see how those two issues are related) but the cookie contains
 the entire FQDN or IP number.
 
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Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-08 Thread Dean Gaudet
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in 
dotted quads
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:49:43 -0700 (PDT)

 That was a deliberate change... it shouldn't break anything, the cookie
 value is just an opaque token that's supposed to differ from one client to
 another.  Is it causing you trouble?
 
 Dean
 
 On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Glenn Fleishman wrote:
 
  Sorry, I was wrong about one thing. The code change in user track now makes
  visit cookies (Apache=) that weren't in the same format as 1.2. In 1.2,
  just the first part (hostname or first number in dotted quad) were
  concatenated with the tick counter. But with this code change, the logging
  now works (I see how those two issues are related) but the cookie contains
  the entire FQDN or IP number.
  
  Glenn Fleishman, unsolicited pundit.  see my mug:  http://www.glenns.org
  freelance technical writer, perl hacker, Adobe Magazine columnist/editor
  co-author of Real World Scanning  Halftones, 2d edition http://rwsh.com
  technical director, Phinney-Bischoff Design Househttp://www.pbdh.com
  director of operations, i/us Corporation http://www.i-us.com
  chair, Web Marketing '98/D.C. http://www.thunderlizard.com/webmarketing/
  
  
 


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-08 Thread dgaudet
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Synopsis: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

State-Changed-From-To: feedback-closed
State-Changed-By: dgaudet
State-Changed-When: Mon Jun  8 11:19:55 PDT 1998
State-Changed-Why:
user is happy :)

Thanks for using apache!

Dean



Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-08 Thread Glenn Fleishman
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first
 number in dotted quads
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:58:19 -0800

 At 9:49 AM -0800 6/8/98, Dean Gaudet wrote:
 That was a deliberate change... it shouldn't break anything, the cookie
 value is just an opaque token that's supposed to differ from one client to
 another.  Is it causing you trouble?
 
 Thought it was unintentional. It makes it longer, but that's not that big
 of a deal. We're done, then!
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 Glenn Fleishman, unsolicited pundit.  see my mug:  http://www.glenns.org
 freelance technical writer, perl hacker, Adobe Magazine columnist/editor
 co-author of Real World Scanning  Halftones, 2d edition http://rwsh.com
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 director of operations, i/us Corporation http://www.i-us.com
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Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-07 Thread Glenn Fleishman
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first
 number in dotted quads
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 17:39:56 -0800

 At 12:15 PM -0800 6/6/98, Dean Gaudet wrote:
 It depends on how you've got it installed.  If you've got the resolv+
 package installed then you probably linked against it, since that modifies
 the shared libcs.  But otherwise I think you need to add -lresolv or
 something like that, it's been a long time since I've had to deal with
 sunos4.
 
 Iinstalled gcc 2.8.1 and BIND 8.1.2 and still had the problem, so I'm
 assuming the resolver library is the thing.
 
 Unfortunately, I am not sophisticated enough to figure out where to put
 -lresolv reference. The new Configuration stuff is great, but I can't
 figure out where you modify library tags like I used to. Any advice would
 be useful, as I assume other SunOS users have the potential to have this
 error, too.
 
 Glenn Fleishman, unsolicited pundit.  see my mug:  http://www.glenns.org
 freelance technical writer, perl hacker, Adobe Magazine columnist/editor
 co-author of Real World Scanning  Halftones, 2d edition http://rwsh.com
 technical director, Phinney-Bischoff Design Househttp://www.pbdh.com
 director of operations, i/us Corporation http://www.i-us.com
 chair, Web Marketing '98/D.C. http://www.thunderlizard.com/webmarketing/
 


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-07 Thread Dean Gaudet
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in 
dotted quads
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:26:34 -0700 (PDT)

 I don't use the new configuration stuff, I don't know how to do it either. 
 You can still use the old configuration stuff.  And in that, you should
 put:
 
 EXTRA_LIBS=-L/usr/local/bind/lib -lbind
 EXTRA_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/bind/include
 
 Tell us how that goes... 
 
 Dean
 


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-07 Thread Glenn Fleishman
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:  Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first
 number in dotted quads
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 20:48:58 -0800

 EXTRA_LIBS=-L/usr/local/bind/lib -lbind
 EXTRA_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/bind/include
 
 These flags can be added to src/Makefile after running configure and they
 get used. The executable ballooned in size:
 
 Before
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root   499712 Jun  6 17:20 /usr/apache13/sbin/httpd
 After
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  1146880 Jun  6 20:05 src/httpd
 
 However, it did work just fine - but the problem persists. Still getting
 just the fragment.
 
 Thanks.


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-07 Thread Dean Gaudet
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in 
dotted quads
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 20:54:54 -0700 (PDT)

 I honestly don't know what to say.  The problem doesn't happen anywhere
 except sunos 4.x, so I'd say it's a problem on that system... and there's
 not anything I know to work around it in apache... maybe you can pester
 folks on a sunos 4.x specific mailing-list/newsgroup.  Someone else has to
 have solved this issue. 
 
 Dean
 
 On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Glenn Fleishman wrote:
 
  EXTRA_LIBS=-L/usr/local/bind/lib -lbind
  EXTRA_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/bind/include
  
  These flags can be added to src/Makefile after running configure and they
  get used. The executable ballooned in size:
  
  Before
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root   499712 Jun  6 17:20 /usr/apache13/sbin/httpd
  After
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  1146880 Jun  6 20:05 src/httpd
  
  However, it did work just fine - but the problem persists. Still getting
  just the fragment.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Glenn Fleishman, unsolicited pundit.  see my mug:  http://www.glenns.org
  freelance technical writer, perl hacker, Adobe Magazine columnist/editor
  co-author of Real World Scanning  Halftones, 2d edition http://rwsh.com
  technical director, Phinney-Bischoff Design Househttp://www.pbdh.com
  director of operations, i/us Corporation http://www.i-us.com
  chair, Web Marketing '98/D.C. http://www.thunderlizard.com/webmarketing/
  
  
 


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-07 Thread Glenn Fleishman
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first
 number in dotted quads
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 08:57:24 -0800

 At 7:54 PM -0800 6/6/98, Dean Gaudet wrote:
 I honestly don't know what to say.  The problem doesn't happen anywhere
 except sunos 4.x, so I'd say it's a problem on that system... and there's
 not anything I know to work around it in apache... maybe you can pester
 folks on a sunos 4.x specific mailing-list/newsgroup.  Someone else has to
 have solved this issue.
 
 I do thank you for the time on this, and it is a bizarre one. I'm running
 CERN and Apache 1.2.x without any problems in logging on the same box. The
 problem only appeared with 1.3.0, so I was hoping there was a clear code
 change that would have caused it. I guess not! I'll poke around on
 comp.sys.sun.admin and so forth.
 
 Maybe leave this ticket in feedback mode so when I find a solution I can
 cc back to it and you to make sure it gets closed and logged in the
 database.
 
 Glenn


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-07 Thread Glenn Fleishman
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first
 number in dotted quads
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 11:20:24 -0800

 One related point, too, before I forget: it may not be a BIND problem per
 se, as the first number in a dotted quad is being used, too, not just the
 host name without an FQDN. If it were just the latter, I could log IPs, but
 the IPs are also broken: just 204 instead of 204.94.44.1. I'll dig through
 the code again, too, and see if I can find something wrong. Hopefully,
 someone else will report this - and be a Sun developer with a solution!


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-06 Thread Dean Gaudet
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in 
dotted quads
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 12:50:54 -0700 (PDT)

 Did you link against the bind libraries explicitly?  Sunos 4.x has some
 very interesting ideas w.r.t. name lookup, DNS, and NIS/YP.  In
 particular, things should work fine if you use the bind libraries
 explicitly.  Or if you don't use NIS/YP.  Also take a peek in your
 /etc/hosts to see if you've got all the entries listed with the FQDN
 first.
 
 Dean
 


Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-06 Thread Glenn Fleishman
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first
 number in dotted quads
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:09:09 -0800

 At 11:50 AM -0800 6/6/98, Dean Gaudet wrote:
 Did you link against the bind libraries explicitly?  Sunos 4.x has some
 very interesting ideas w.r.t. name lookup, DNS, and NIS/YP.  In
 particular, things should work fine if you use the bind libraries
 explicitly.  Or if you don't use NIS/YP.  Also take a peek in your
 /etc/hosts to see if you've got all the entries listed with the FQDN
 first.
 
 On the bind subject: I didn't do it explicitly, but apache is performing
 lookups in some cases, just not all. How do I link explicitly? In all the
 software I've compiled over the last four years, this hasn't been a problem
 with this OS (or I've been lucky).
 
 On the NIS/YP front: we use it, but barely. Just enough to avoid having to
 replace it, but not for any real purpose. It's set up to use DNS primarily.
 
 /etc/hosts: not sure why this affects externally looked-up FQDNs - can you
 explain? Does an FQDN in the /etc/hosts file force DNS involvement in
 resolver lookups? That seems odd.
 
 Glenn Fleishman, unsolicited pundit.  see my mug:  http://www.glenns.org
 freelance technical writer, perl hacker, Adobe Magazine columnist/editor
 co-author of Real World Scanning  Halftones, 2d edition http://rwsh.com
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Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in dotted quads

1998-06-06 Thread Dean Gaudet
The following reply was made to PR mod_log-any/2366; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dean Gaudet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glenn Fleishman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mod_log-any/2366: DNS lookup in logs reports host, first number in 
dotted quads
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:15:34 -0700 (PDT)

 On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Glenn Fleishman wrote:
 
  On the bind subject: I didn't do it explicitly, but apache is performing
  lookups in some cases, just not all. How do I link explicitly? In all the
  software I've compiled over the last four years, this hasn't been a problem
  with this OS (or I've been lucky).
 
 It depends on how you've got it installed.  If you've got the resolv+ 
 package installed then you probably linked against it, since that modifies
 the shared libcs.  But otherwise I think you need to add -lresolv or
 something like that, it's been a long time since I've had to deal with
 sunos4. 
 
  On the NIS/YP front: we use it, but barely. Just enough to avoid having to
  replace it, but not for any real purpose. It's set up to use DNS primarily.
 
 Yeah that's enough to cause troubles.
 
  /etc/hosts: not sure why this affects externally looked-up FQDNs - can you
  explain? Does an FQDN in the /etc/hosts file force DNS involvement in
  resolver lookups? That seems odd.
 
 It won't affect external stuff.  It'll only affect stuff that has entries
 in /etc/hosts.
 
 Dean