Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC Proposal

[Francis Tyers]

El 2019-03-19 12:01, Eden escribió:

Hi all,

I finished the first draft of my proposal:
http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/User:Eden

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.



1) It would be good to see an example of the output of your
basic system, and it would also be good to see more than
one sentence translated. Often students add at least all
of the words in the story to the bilingual dictionary as
their coding challenge.

2) I think the work plan needs more development, but it will
be easier as you become familiar with Apertium. You have plenty
of time until the application deadline. I'd suggest you spend
the next week improving your prototype and then adapt your
work plan.

Best regards, and see you on IRC!

Fran


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Re: [Apertium-stuff] Fwd: RBMT from Kazakh to Turkish

[Ilnar Salimzianov]

On 3/19/19 12:42 PM, Daniyar Nariman via Apertium-stuff wrote:
> Hello everyone. For the last 5 days I studied and practice on
> Apetrium and now I am somehow familiar with it. Also, I started to
> implement coding challenge, so can you please provide me with the
> account on your wiki. Thanks in advance!!

Done. You should've received an email with a temporary password.

Ilnar
> mail: n.dani...@innopolis.ru
>
> username: nariman9119
>
> 
> *From:* mansur <6688...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2019 8:57:14 AM
> *To:* apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Apertium-stuff] Fwd: RBMT from Kazakh to Turkish
>  
> +1
>
> Ilnar Salimzianov  > schrieb am Fr., 15. März 2019, 08:56:
>
>
>
>     On 2019 ж. 15 наурыз 02:11:19 GMT+03:00, Jonathan Washington
>          > wrote:
>     >Сәлем, Данияр!  Қауымымызға қош келдіңіз!
>     >
>     >Thanks for getting in touch with Ilnar and the rest of the Apertium
>     >community about your project idea.
>     >
>     >Memduh is right that Kazakh-to-Turkish MT is receiving a lot of
>     >attention
>     >right now in Apertium, and an additional project on it would likely
>     >create
>     >a bit of a mess.  However, I think Turkish-to-Kazakh MT (i.e., the
>     >other
>     >direction) would be a good way for you to contribute, given your
>     >linguistic
>     >knowledge.  The translation pair and language modules are the same, but
>     >a
>     >lot of the work would be editing a complementary set of files:
>     >disambiguation for Turkish and not Kazakh, and lexical selection and
>     >structural transfer for the Turkish-Kazakh direction instead of the
>     >Kazakh-Turkish direction.
>
>     +1
>
>     >I don't see any problems with this, but perhaps others on this list
>     >have
>     >deeper insights.
>     >
>     >Another thought is that our Kazakh-to-Tatar MT system is one of our
>     >oldest
>     >"stable" Turkic pairs, but it does a poor job in the other direction.
>     >Perhaps a coherent GSoC proposal could be assembled from making these
>     >two
>     >existing pairs (kaz-tat and kaz-tur) stable in the opposite directions.
>     >I'd be interested to hear what other mentors think about this.
>     >(Knowing
>     >Kazakh and Turkish well should make Tatar fairly easy to work with.)
>     >
>     >Two additional little tidbits:
>     >
>     >Regarding your question about the pipeline involved, you can take a
>     >look at
>     >how the Apertium pipeline comes together here:
>     >http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Apertium_system_architecture
>     >
>     >This page could be updated some, but is probably still helpful as is.
>     >
>     >Also, I see you managed to catch Ilnar on IRC.  Feel free to stay
>     >logged in
>     >when you can—you'll find different people available at different times.
>     >
>     >Сөйлескенше,
>     >
>     >--
>     >Jonathan
>     >
>     >
>     >чт, 14 мар. 2019 г. в 14:03, Memduh Gökırmak      >:
>     >
>     >> Hi Nariman,
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> The structure of the system is more or less the same across all
>     >pairs, but
>     >> there are some components that we use in some and don't use in
>     >others. For
>     >> example, the statistical system for choosing the correct rule to
>     >imply when
>     >> there is ambiguity is a work in progress, and is only in a few pairs.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Your question regarding breaking some system by making changes is a
>     >valid
>     >> one, but GSoC students don't typically make changes to programs we
>     >have in
>     >> production. When a new component is written it is tested and
>     >introduced in
>     >> a few pairs at first and so on.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> There are a number of ways to increase the quality of a system but
>     >what is
>     >> usually most urgent is things like expanding the dictionary and
>     >writing
>     >> more transfer rules. Kazakh-Turkish would have been a nice domain for
>     >you
>     >> to work on given your proficiency in both, but it has been getting
>     >quite a
>     >> lot of attention recently and perhaps it would be better to choose
>     >some
>     >> other Turkic pair (I've been thinking about Bashkurt-Turkish).
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> So to recap:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> For improving/creating language pairs, the tools are already there
>     >and you
>     >> will be making/improving things like a dictionary of words in both
>     >> languages, rules to choose the right words, rules to reorder and
>     >change up
>     >> the words so they make sense in the target language. This is
>     >something akin
>     >> to developing language resources and doesn't require a whole lot of
>     >> programming expertise, but some scripting is useful.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> If you are 

[Apertium-stuff] GSOC Proposal

[Eden]

Hi all,

I finished the first draft of my proposal: 
http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/User:Eden


Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Eden



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Re: [Apertium-stuff] Fwd: RBMT from Kazakh to Turkish

[Daniyar Nariman via Apertium-stuff]

Hello everyone. For the last 5 days I studied and practice on Apetrium and now 
I am somehow familiar with it. Also, I started to implement coding challenge, 
so can you please provide me with the account on your wiki. Thanks in advance!!
mail: n.dani...@innopolis.ru

username: nariman9119


From: mansur <6688...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:57:14 AM
To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Fwd: RBMT from Kazakh to Turkish

+1

Ilnar Salimzianov 
mailto:ilnar.salimzia...@posteo.de>> schrieb am 
Fr., 15. März 2019, 08:56:


On 2019 ж. 15 наурыз 02:11:19 GMT+03:00, Jonathan Washington 
mailto:jonathan.n.washing...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>Сәлем, Данияр!  Қауымымызға қош келдіңіз!
>
>Thanks for getting in touch with Ilnar and the rest of the Apertium
>community about your project idea.
>
>Memduh is right that Kazakh-to-Turkish MT is receiving a lot of
>attention
>right now in Apertium, and an additional project on it would likely
>create
>a bit of a mess.  However, I think Turkish-to-Kazakh MT (i.e., the
>other
>direction) would be a good way for you to contribute, given your
>linguistic
>knowledge.  The translation pair and language modules are the same, but
>a
>lot of the work would be editing a complementary set of files:
>disambiguation for Turkish and not Kazakh, and lexical selection and
>structural transfer for the Turkish-Kazakh direction instead of the
>Kazakh-Turkish direction.

+1

>I don't see any problems with this, but perhaps others on this list
>have
>deeper insights.
>
>Another thought is that our Kazakh-to-Tatar MT system is one of our
>oldest
>"stable" Turkic pairs, but it does a poor job in the other direction.
>Perhaps a coherent GSoC proposal could be assembled from making these
>two
>existing pairs (kaz-tat and kaz-tur) stable in the opposite directions.
>I'd be interested to hear what other mentors think about this.
>(Knowing
>Kazakh and Turkish well should make Tatar fairly easy to work with.)
>
>Two additional little tidbits:
>
>Regarding your question about the pipeline involved, you can take a
>look at
>how the Apertium pipeline comes together here:
>http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Apertium_system_architecture
>
>This page could be updated some, but is probably still helpful as is.
>
>Also, I see you managed to catch Ilnar on IRC.  Feel free to stay
>logged in
>when you can—you'll find different people available at different times.
>
>Сөйлескенше,
>
>--
>Jonathan
>
>
>чт, 14 мар. 2019 г. в 14:03, Memduh Gökırmak 
>mailto:memd...@gmail.com>>:
>
>> Hi Nariman,
>>
>>
>> The structure of the system is more or less the same across all
>pairs, but
>> there are some components that we use in some and don't use in
>others. For
>> example, the statistical system for choosing the correct rule to
>imply when
>> there is ambiguity is a work in progress, and is only in a few pairs.
>>
>>
>> Your question regarding breaking some system by making changes is a
>valid
>> one, but GSoC students don't typically make changes to programs we
>have in
>> production. When a new component is written it is tested and
>introduced in
>> a few pairs at first and so on.
>>
>>
>> There are a number of ways to increase the quality of a system but
>what is
>> usually most urgent is things like expanding the dictionary and
>writing
>> more transfer rules. Kazakh-Turkish would have been a nice domain for
>you
>> to work on given your proficiency in both, but it has been getting
>quite a
>> lot of attention recently and perhaps it would be better to choose
>some
>> other Turkic pair (I've been thinking about Bashkurt-Turkish).
>>
>>
>> So to recap:
>>
>>
>> For improving/creating language pairs, the tools are already there
>and you
>> will be making/improving things like a dictionary of words in both
>> languages, rules to choose the right words, rules to reorder and
>change up
>> the words so they make sense in the target language. This is
>something akin
>> to developing language resources and doesn't require a whole lot of
>> programming expertise, but some scripting is useful.
>>
>>
>> If you are a hardcore programmer, you can develop a new component or
>> improve some features of the system.
>>
>>
>> I'm sure someone has sent you this link, but here is a list of ideas
>for
>> projects we'd like to do this summer:
>> http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Ideas_for_Google_Summer_of_Code
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Memduh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14-03-2019 15:26, Daniyar Nariman via Apertium-stuff wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sevilay,
>>
>> In my message, I meant that Kazakh and Turkish languages are similar
>in
>> terms of affixes and sentence structure, and Kazakh and Russian are
>more
>> different. So if I will increase the translation quality of the first
>pair,
>> by adding some additional functionality to the pipeline, there is a
>chance
>> that the same might not work on the second pair. Finally, the
>question is,
>> Is this pipeline has to be the same for all language pairs, o

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Account on Apertium wiki

[Mikel L. Forcada]

Just enter #apertium and use that name! 

El 19 de març de 2019 8:00:08 CET, shashank tiwari  
ha escrit:
>I need an account too IRC nick :picklerick
>
>On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM Jonathan Washington <
>jonathan.n.washing...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Done!
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan
>>
>> чт, 28 февр. 2019 г. в 23:02, Daniel Swanson
>:
>>
>>> I would also like a wiki account for GSoC.
>>>
>>> Username: popcorndude
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:09 AM ashwath s via Apertium-stuff <
>>> apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>
 thanks

 On Thu, 28 Feb, 2019, 09:56 Ilnar Salimzianov, 
 wrote:

> You should've received temporary passwords now, for usernames
>'Pks_12'
> and 'ashwaths', respectively.
>
> Upon login, temporary passwords can be changed at [1].
>
> Best,
>
> Ilnar
>
> [1] http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword
>
> On 2/28/19 6:49 AM, ashwath s via Apertium-stuff wrote:
> > username:- ashwath s
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Feb, 2019, 01:49 Ilnar Salimzianov,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/27/19 10:19 PM, ashwath s via Apertium-stuff wrote:
> > > hey , could you also give me an account , i've found a few
> grammatical
> > > mistakes in some documents which i could correct
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > great!
> >
> > Same thing: I need to know the username you'd like to have
>on the
> wiki
> > so that  I can register you.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ilnar
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 28 Feb, 2019, 00:48 Ilnar Salimzianov, <
> il...@selimcan.org
> > 
> > > >>
>wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Pranesh,
> > >
> > > what do you want to do on the wiki?
> > >
> > > And which username would you like to have?
> > >
> > > If you're on IRC [1] (a must have if you're applying
>for
> Google
> > > Summer of Code by Apertium!), contact me, i.e.
>selimcan.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Ilnar
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/27/19 8:15 AM, Pranesh Saha wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Please add my account to the wiki.
> > > > Pranesh Saha
> > > >
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Re: [Apertium-stuff] Account on Apertium wiki

[shashank tiwari]

I need an account too IRC nick :picklerick

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM Jonathan Washington <
jonathan.n.washing...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Done!
>
> --
> Jonathan
>
> чт, 28 февр. 2019 г. в 23:02, Daniel Swanson :
>
>> I would also like a wiki account for GSoC.
>>
>> Username: popcorndude
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:09 AM ashwath s via Apertium-stuff <
>> apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Feb, 2019, 09:56 Ilnar Salimzianov, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You should've received temporary passwords now, for usernames 'Pks_12'
 and 'ashwaths', respectively.

 Upon login, temporary passwords can be changed at [1].

 Best,

 Ilnar

 [1] http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Special:ChangePassword

 On 2/28/19 6:49 AM, ashwath s via Apertium-stuff wrote:
 > username:- ashwath s
 >
 > On Thu, 28 Feb, 2019, 01:49 Ilnar Salimzianov, >>> > > wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 > On 2/27/19 10:19 PM, ashwath s via Apertium-stuff wrote:
 > > hey , could you also give me an account , i've found a few
 grammatical
 > > mistakes in some documents which i could correct
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > great!
 >
 > Same thing: I need to know the username you'd like to have on the
 wiki
 > so that  I can register you.
 >
 > Best,
 >
 > Ilnar
 >
 >
 > >
 > > On Thu, 28 Feb, 2019, 00:48 Ilnar Salimzianov, <
 il...@selimcan.org
 > 
 > > >> wrote:
 > >
 > > Hi Pranesh,
 > >
 > > what do you want to do on the wiki?
 > >
 > > And which username would you like to have?
 > >
 > > If you're on IRC [1] (a must have if you're applying for
 Google
 > > Summer of Code by Apertium!), contact me, i.e. selimcan.
 > >
 > > Best,
 > >
 > > Ilnar
 > >
 > >
 > > On 2/27/19 8:15 AM, Pranesh Saha wrote:
 > > > Hello,
 > > > Please add my account to the wiki.
 > > > Pranesh Saha
 > > >
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