Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
> Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 18:02:29 +0300 > From: mansur <6688...@gmail.com> > To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > Reply-To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal > Pièce(s) jointes(s) probable(s)> > Looks great, but I have some problems: > > 1. I chose translation from Tatar to any of available languages, but it > doesn't do anything after clicking "Translate": > http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php The problem is Apertium tools use systems libraries and newer are the Apertium tools versions, newer are the system libraries versions required. Secondly, I don't have root access on the server, so, to prepare the server, several things that can be done easily by a apt-get for instance were done differently outside /usr directory It was difficult but possible for several things like autotools and pkg-config, but for several systems libraries, it does not work if they are outside their normal place, generally somewhere under /usr and the guy who created tuxfamily service was not pleased when I asked for extra system libraries. He proposed me to install a complete system and to do a chroot. That may be the solution to allow more language pairs working. > > 2. Is it possible to choose translation direction/settings in the url, for > example, something like ".../tradtexte.php?from=tatar&to=bashkir&direct". I > want to preselect these settings for convenience of our corpus' users. > Yes, there are two ways to do that. 1) Using language names : https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php?mode_sel=L&trad_directe=yes&lg_source=tat&lg_cible=bak mode_sel=L (the l can be lowercase) is the default value if you did not change it previously 2) Using translation direction https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php?mode_sel=s&senstrad1=tat-bak The complete list of possible get parameters is there : https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/doc_param_get.php And after setting once your translation parameters, you can also look at cookies to see values of these parameters. https://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/cookies.php O avoid a very large number of language choices, you can also select a subset of languages using user preferences. And then, depending if you keep cookies after closing your web browser or not, you can save that on cookies or using an account on apertiumtrad website. If you just need the web interface but you have your language pair installed locally, there is a very similar website to download? You need a php server but no database. So the only problem will be to update apertium tools in order to make more language pairs working. If I am not the only user of this website in the world, that me be useful to spend time for that. Bernard Chardonneau (France) Phone : [33] 9 72 36 32 90 GSM phone : [33] 7 69 46 16 31 An alternative Apertium translation website : http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org Multilingual websites for my free softwares : http://libremail.free.fr and http://libremail.tuxfamily.org http://cyloop.tuxfamily.org (mainly translated with Apertium) My general website (in french only) http://bech.free.fr ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
Hi Mansur, If you're looking to use bleeding-edge Tatar tools from Apertium, you can also try http://turkic.apertium.org . I just brought it up-to-date with nightly packaging. Note that there are a few Turkic modules that haven't made it into nightly packaging yet, and there are a few issues with localisation. The former is part of what Tino is currently working on. So things will probably be improving rather quickly going forward. But do feel free to continue to report issues you notice. (Some things might be more quickly or easily addressed if communicated on IRC or via GitHub.) -- Jonathan 30 may 2020, Ş. tarixində 11:04 tarixində mansur <6688...@gmail.com> yazdı: > > Thank you, Tino! > > Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 18:02 Uhr schrieb mansur <6688...@gmail.com>: >> >> Looks great, but I have some problems: >> >> 1. I chose translation from Tatar to any of available languages, but it >> doesn't do anything after clicking "Translate": >> http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php >> >> 2. Is it possible to choose translation direction/settings in the url, for >> example, something like ".../tradtexte.php?from=tatar&to=bashkir&direct". I >> want to preselect these settings for convenience of our corpus' users. >> >> Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 17:32 Uhr schrieb Hèctor Alòs i Font >> : >>> >>> Sorry, I forgot to copy it: >>> http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/index.php?lang=eng >>> >>> Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a les >>> 17:10: Hi, Hèctor! Sounds interesting! Could you, please, provide a link to @Bernard Chardonneau's portal? Best, Mansur Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 17:06 Uhr schrieb Hèctor Alòs i Font : > > Hi, Mansur! > As an alternative, @Bernard Chardonneau's site seems much more reliable, > although it doesn't have all the features that supposedly provides Beta > Apertium. I was very enthusiastic with Beta Apertium, but I ceased use it > because it doesn't work. > Best, > Hèctor > > Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a les > 16:51: >> >> Hey! >> >> It turned out, the Apertium Beta portal stopped working for some reason: >> http://beta.apertium.org/ >> If I use httpS it redirects to the wiki page. >> >> Will it be fixed sometime soon? If not, what should we use that includes >> beta features? >> >> With best regards, >> Mansur >> ___ >> Apertium-stuff mailing list >> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > > ___ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>> >>> ___ >>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > > ___ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
Thank you, Tino! Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 18:02 Uhr schrieb mansur <6688...@gmail.com>: > Looks great, but I have some problems: > > 1. I chose translation from Tatar to any of available languages, but it > doesn't do anything after clicking "Translate": > http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php > > 2. Is it possible to choose translation direction/settings in the url, for > example, something like ".../tradtexte.php?from=tatar&to=bashkir&direct". I > want to preselect these settings for convenience of our corpus' users. > > Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 17:32 Uhr schrieb Hèctor Alòs i Font < > hectora...@gmail.com>: > >> Sorry, I forgot to copy it: >> http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/index.php?lang=eng >> >> Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a >> les 17:10: >> >>> Hi, Hèctor! >>> >>> Sounds interesting! Could you, please, provide a link to @Bernard >>> Chardonneau 's portal? >>> >>> Best, >>> Mansur >>> >>> Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 17:06 Uhr schrieb Hèctor Alòs i Font < >>> hectora...@gmail.com>: >>> Hi, Mansur! As an alternative, @Bernard Chardonneau 's site seems much more reliable, although it doesn't have all the features that supposedly provides Beta Apertium. I was very enthusiastic with Beta Apertium, but I ceased use it because it doesn't work. Best, Hèctor Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a les 16:51: > Hey! > > It turned out, the Apertium Beta portal stopped working for some > reason: > http://beta.apertium.org/ > If I use httpS it redirects to the wiki page. > > Will it be fixed sometime soon? If not, what should we use that > includes beta features? > > With best regards, > Mansur > ___ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>> ___ >>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>> >> ___ >> Apertium-stuff mailing list >> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >> > ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
Looks great, but I have some problems: 1. I chose translation from Tatar to any of available languages, but it doesn't do anything after clicking "Translate": http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/tradtexte.php 2. Is it possible to choose translation direction/settings in the url, for example, something like ".../tradtexte.php?from=tatar&to=bashkir&direct". I want to preselect these settings for convenience of our corpus' users. Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 17:32 Uhr schrieb Hèctor Alòs i Font < hectora...@gmail.com>: > Sorry, I forgot to copy it: > http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/index.php?lang=eng > > Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a les > 17:10: > >> Hi, Hèctor! >> >> Sounds interesting! Could you, please, provide a link to @Bernard >> Chardonneau 's portal? >> >> Best, >> Mansur >> >> Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 17:06 Uhr schrieb Hèctor Alòs i Font < >> hectora...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi, Mansur! >>> As an alternative, @Bernard Chardonneau 's site >>> seems much more reliable, although it doesn't have all the features that >>> supposedly provides Beta Apertium. I was very enthusiastic with Beta >>> Apertium, but I ceased use it because it doesn't work. >>> Best, >>> Hèctor >>> >>> Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a >>> les 16:51: >>> Hey! It turned out, the Apertium Beta portal stopped working for some reason: http://beta.apertium.org/ If I use httpS it redirects to the wiki page. Will it be fixed sometime soon? If not, what should we use that includes beta features? With best regards, Mansur ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>> ___ >>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>> >> ___ >> Apertium-stuff mailing list >> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >> > ___ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
It will be fixed soon (probably this long weekend), and with much more content. We've moved server, and beta hasn't been re-established yet. -- Tino Didriksen On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 15:51, mansur <6688...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey! > > It turned out, the Apertium Beta portal stopped working for some reason: > http://beta.apertium.org/ > If I use httpS it redirects to the wiki page. > > Will it be fixed sometime soon? If not, what should we use that includes > beta features? > > With best regards, > Mansur > ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
Sorry, I forgot to copy it: http://apertiumtrad.tuxfamily.org/index.php?lang=eng Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a les 17:10: > Hi, Hèctor! > > Sounds interesting! Could you, please, provide a link to @Bernard > Chardonneau 's portal? > > Best, > Mansur > > Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 17:06 Uhr schrieb Hèctor Alòs i Font < > hectora...@gmail.com>: > >> Hi, Mansur! >> As an alternative, @Bernard Chardonneau 's site >> seems much more reliable, although it doesn't have all the features that >> supposedly provides Beta Apertium. I was very enthusiastic with Beta >> Apertium, but I ceased use it because it doesn't work. >> Best, >> Hèctor >> >> Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a >> les 16:51: >> >>> Hey! >>> >>> It turned out, the Apertium Beta portal stopped working for some reason: >>> http://beta.apertium.org/ >>> If I use httpS it redirects to the wiki page. >>> >>> Will it be fixed sometime soon? If not, what should we use that includes >>> beta features? >>> >>> With best regards, >>> Mansur >>> ___ >>> Apertium-stuff mailing list >>> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >>> >> ___ >> Apertium-stuff mailing list >> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >> > ___ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
Hi, Hèctor! Sounds interesting! Could you, please, provide a link to @Bernard Chardonneau 's portal? Best, Mansur Am Sa., 30. Mai 2020 um 17:06 Uhr schrieb Hèctor Alòs i Font < hectora...@gmail.com>: > Hi, Mansur! > As an alternative, @Bernard Chardonneau 's site seems > much more reliable, although it doesn't have all the features that > supposedly provides Beta Apertium. I was very enthusiastic with Beta > Apertium, but I ceased use it because it doesn't work. > Best, > Hèctor > > Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a les > 16:51: > >> Hey! >> >> It turned out, the Apertium Beta portal stopped working for some reason: >> http://beta.apertium.org/ >> If I use httpS it redirects to the wiki page. >> >> Will it be fixed sometime soon? If not, what should we use that includes >> beta features? >> >> With best regards, >> Mansur >> ___ >> Apertium-stuff mailing list >> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >> > ___ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
Hi, Mansur! As an alternative, @Bernard Chardonneau 's site seems much more reliable, although it doesn't have all the features that supposedly provides Beta Apertium. I was very enthusiastic with Beta Apertium, but I ceased use it because it doesn't work. Best, Hèctor Missatge de mansur <6688...@gmail.com> del dia ds., 30 de maig 2020 a les 16:51: > Hey! > > It turned out, the Apertium Beta portal stopped working for some reason: > http://beta.apertium.org/ > If I use httpS it redirects to the wiki page. > > Will it be fixed sometime soon? If not, what should we use that includes > beta features? > > With best regards, > Mansur > ___ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
[Apertium-stuff] Apertium Beta Portal
Hey! It turned out, the Apertium Beta portal stopped working for some reason: http://beta.apertium.org/ If I use httpS it redirects to the wiki page. Will it be fixed sometime soon? If not, what should we use that includes beta features? With best regards, Mansur ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
