Re: [Apertium-stuff] Automatically change first-person to third-person

2022-02-14 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

> The link in that earlier email is dead, so I can't see what the original
> script was doing, but based on the name it might have just been replacing
>  with , in which case, if you still have that script, you could
> just edit it to replace  with .

Wops, I should've attached it …

These days I think I'd use rtx for this, probably would be an even
shorter file =D


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Re: [Apertium-stuff] Automatically change first-person to third-person

2022-02-14 Thread Daniel Swanson
The link in that earlier email is dead, so I can't see what the original
script was doing, but based on the name it might have just been replacing
 with , in which case, if you still have that script, you could
just edit it to replace  with .

Daniel

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:20 AM Per Tunedal  wrote:

> HI again,
> OOps, I happened to take the wrong book from the book shelf. I should have
> taken one of those a bit more to the left :-(
> The examples are from the works of an other author, Sun Axelsson, not
> Majgull Axelsson.
> But the question is still valid. And you could still make Majgull happy on
> her anniversary.
> Yours,
> Per Tunedal
>
> --
>   Vänligen
>   Per Tunedal
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022, at 11:11, Per Tunedal wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Today is the anniversary of the Swedish author Majgull Axelsson. I've
> > just read an interview with her in my morning paper, Dagens Nyheter.
> > She tells about the work with a new novel. She has just decided to
> > change the narrator perspective from first-person to third-person
> > (singular) and wish some help:
> > "Jag önskar mig innerligt i fördelsedagspresent, ett datorprogram som
> > kan ändra tempus och berättarperspektiv väldigt enkelt, skämtar hon."
> >
> > My translation:
> > "I fervently wish me a computer program that is able to change the
> > tense and the narrative perspective very easy, she says with a laugh."
> >
> > I've in the past already asked for changing the tense, so this is
> > doable.
> >
> https://sourceforge.net/p/apertium/mailman/apertium-stuff/thread/1519736195.3991384.1284992528.191E054E%40webmail.messagingengine.com/#msg36238830
> >
> > She would like to change the perpecive as well, something like:
> >
> > Example 1:
> > "Jag länktade hem och lyfte glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till
> > munnen. Jag svalde klunk efter klunk och tog klumparna jag svalde för
> > sockeravlagringar. Tills jag såg att det var flugor."
> > (Her book "Honungsvargar", page 19)
> >
> > To:
> > Hon länktade hem och lyfte glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till munnen.
> > Hon svalde klunk efter klunk och tog klumparna hon svalde för
> > sockeravlagringar. Tills hon såg att det var flugor. ... " (Narrator
> > changed from 1:st person to third person)
> >
> > or:
> >
> > Hon länktar hem och lyfter glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till munnen.
> > Hon sväljer klunk efter klunk och tar klumparna hon sväljer för
> > sockeravlagringar. Tills hon ser att det är flugor. ... " (Narrator
> > changed from 1:st person to third person and past tens to present tense)
> >
> >
> > Example 2:
> > "Mig, skrev han, hade han aldrig älskat."
> > ("Honungsvargar", page 23)
> >
> > To:
> > "Henne, skrev han, hade han aldrig älskat." (Narrator changed from 1:st
> > person to third person)
> >
> > Maybe the Apertium community could make her wish true?
> >
> > Yours,
> > Per Tunedal
> >
> > BTW A more fundamental change of narrative perspective would be harder.
> > Like changing narrator from the woman to the man in this text. I don't
> > think it's possible.
> >
> > The first example would become something like:
> > "Han såg henne lyfta glaset med den sliskiga minlikören till munnen.
> > Hon svalde klunk efter klunk. Plötsligt stelnade hon till och stirrade
> > ned i glaset. 'Flugor', skrek hon."
> >
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Re: [Apertium-stuff] Automatically change first-person to third-person

2022-02-14 Thread Per Tunedal
HI again,
OOps, I happened to take the wrong book from the book shelf. I should have 
taken one of those a bit more to the left :-(
The examples are from the works of an other author, Sun Axelsson, not Majgull 
Axelsson.
But the question is still valid. And you could still make Majgull happy on her 
anniversary.
Yours,
Per Tunedal

-- 
  Vänligen
  Per Tunedal

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022, at 11:11, Per Tunedal wrote:
> Hi,
> Today is the anniversary of the Swedish author Majgull Axelsson. I've 
> just read an interview with her in my morning paper, Dagens Nyheter. 
> She tells about the work with a new novel. She has just decided to 
> change the narrator perspective from first-person to third-person 
> (singular) and wish some help:
> "Jag önskar mig innerligt i fördelsedagspresent, ett datorprogram som 
> kan ändra tempus och berättarperspektiv väldigt enkelt, skämtar hon."
>
> My translation:
> "I fervently wish me a computer program that is able to change the 
> tense and the narrative perspective very easy, she says with a laugh."
>
> I've in the past already asked for changing the tense, so this is 
> doable.
> https://sourceforge.net/p/apertium/mailman/apertium-stuff/thread/1519736195.3991384.1284992528.191E054E%40webmail.messagingengine.com/#msg36238830
>
> She would like to change the perpecive as well, something like:
>
> Example 1: 
> "Jag länktade hem och lyfte glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till 
> munnen. Jag svalde klunk efter klunk och tog klumparna jag svalde för 
> sockeravlagringar. Tills jag såg att det var flugor."
> (Her book "Honungsvargar", page 19)
>
> To:
> Hon länktade hem och lyfte glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till munnen. 
> Hon svalde klunk efter klunk och tog klumparna hon svalde för 
> sockeravlagringar. Tills hon såg att det var flugor. ... " (Narrator 
> changed from 1:st person to third person)
>
> or:
>
> Hon länktar hem och lyfter glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till munnen. 
> Hon sväljer klunk efter klunk och tar klumparna hon sväljer för 
> sockeravlagringar. Tills hon ser att det är flugor. ... " (Narrator 
> changed from 1:st person to third person and past tens to present tense)
>
>
> Example 2:
> "Mig, skrev han, hade han aldrig älskat."
> ("Honungsvargar", page 23)
>
> To:
> "Henne, skrev han, hade han aldrig älskat." (Narrator changed from 1:st 
> person to third person)
>
> Maybe the Apertium community could make her wish true?
>
> Yours,
> Per Tunedal
>
> BTW A more fundamental change of narrative perspective would be harder. 
> Like changing narrator from the woman to the man in this text. I don't 
> think it's possible.
>
> The first example would become something like:
> "Han såg henne lyfta glaset med den sliskiga minlikören till munnen. 
> Hon svalde klunk efter klunk. Plötsligt stelnade hon till och stirrade 
> ned i glaset. 'Flugor', skrek hon."
>
>
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[Apertium-stuff] Automatically change first-person to third-person

2022-02-14 Thread Per Tunedal
Hi,
Today is the anniversary of the Swedish author Majgull Axelsson. I've just read 
an interview with her in my morning paper, Dagens Nyheter. She tells about the 
work with a new novel. She has just decided to change the narrator perspective 
from first-person to third-person (singular) and wish some help:
"Jag önskar mig innerligt i fördelsedagspresent, ett datorprogram som kan ändra 
tempus och berättarperspektiv väldigt enkelt, skämtar hon."

My translation:
"I fervently wish me a computer program that is able to change the tense and 
the narrative perspective very easy, she says with a laugh."

I've in the past already asked for changing the tense, so this is doable.
https://sourceforge.net/p/apertium/mailman/apertium-stuff/thread/1519736195.3991384.1284992528.191E054E%40webmail.messagingengine.com/#msg36238830

She would like to change the perpecive as well, something like:

Example 1: 
"Jag länktade hem och lyfte glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till munnen. Jag 
svalde klunk efter klunk och tog klumparna jag svalde för sockeravlagringar. 
Tills jag såg att det var flugor."
(Her book "Honungsvargar", page 19)

To:
Hon länktade hem och lyfte glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till munnen. Hon 
svalde klunk efter klunk och tog klumparna hon svalde för sockeravlagringar. 
Tills hon såg att det var flugor. ... " (Narrator changed from 1:st person to 
third person)

or:

Hon länktar hem och lyfter glaset med en sliskig mintlikör till munnen. Hon 
sväljer klunk efter klunk och tar klumparna hon sväljer för sockeravlagringar. 
Tills hon ser att det är flugor. ... " (Narrator changed from 1:st person to 
third person and past tens to present tense)


Example 2:
"Mig, skrev han, hade han aldrig älskat."
("Honungsvargar", page 23)

To:
"Henne, skrev han, hade han aldrig älskat." (Narrator changed from 1:st person 
to third person)

Maybe the Apertium community could make her wish true?

Yours,
Per Tunedal

BTW A more fundamental change of narrative perspective would be harder. Like 
changing narrator from the woman to the man in this text. I don't think it's 
possible.

The first example would become something like:
"Han såg henne lyfta glaset med den sliskiga minlikören till munnen. Hon svalde 
klunk efter klunk. Plötsligt stelnade hon till och stirrade ned i glaset. 
'Flugor', skrek hon."


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