Re: [aqm] WG status

2014-01-08 Thread David Collier-Brown
I'll have a look and see if I can contribute.  --dave


On 01/08/2014 03:06 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
>
> I have a doc shepard/researcher working with me to nail down cites
> from the 70s and 80s. First up however was finding direct web
> references to everything cited in the existing  drafts.
>
> Alaric found links to everything missing and modified the existing
> drafts to suit. I don't know how the various authors would like the
> changes (?) - diffs can be had from the bufferbloat-rfcs repository in
> github:
> https://github.com/dtaht/bufferbloat-rfcs - there were only about 10
> URLs added.
>
> Still struggling with xml2rfc and pandoc2rfc here...
>
> On Jan 8, 2014 2:46 PM, "Wesley Eddy"  > wrote:
>
> Hi, as we've entered 2014 and have charter milestones that we're
> working towards, Richard and I thought it would be good to start
> periodically sending a "status report" to the WG mailing list so
> that we can all keep up with what's going on, and focus our efforts
> together on the things that need work.
>
> Towards that goal, here is a snapshot of where we think the AQM
> working group is at today, and what the next steps are that people
> can contribute to:
>
>
> - WG Milestones:
>   - Submit AQM recommendations to IESG for publication, obsoleting RFC
> 2309 (Goal: January 2014)
> - draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation is accepted towards this milestone
> - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation/
> - the draft needs to be updated per comments received, including
> feedback on the recommendations from the Vancouver meeting
> - if the authors are comfortable, a WGLC might be made on the next
> revision
> - we would like to hear from other authors of RFC 2309 on this
> document, if anyone has contacts to them.
>
>   - Submit AQM algorithm evaluation guidelines to IESG for publication
> as Informational (Goal: July 2014)
> - We need an editor team to step forward and begin work on this;
> there was initial work presented in Vancouver, but no draft
> available or
> adopted by the working group yet.
> - It will be difficult to make this milestone, and will push other
> milestones back, if this work isn't accelerated.
> - Please express interest to the chairs or on-list
>
>   - Submit first algorithm specification to IESG for publication as
> Proposed Standard (Goal: December 2014)
> - Since any Proposed Standard algorithm should be in line with the
> recommendations and be passable versus the evaluation guidelines, this
> milestone is hard to start on without significant progress on the
> previous two.
> - Currently the only algorithm spec with a complete and active
> individual-submission draft is PIE
>
> - Other items:
>   - draft-pan-aqm-pie is under active work as a proposed algorithm:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-pan-aqm-pie-00.txt
>   - CoDel draft is expired; Dave Taht or others may revive it and/or
> describe pairing with FQ/SFQ algorithms:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nichols-tsvwg-codel-01.txt
>   - Other algorithm specifications are welcome!
> - Though, we are not planning on adopting algorithms until
> recommendations and evaluation guidelines are mostly stable
>
>
> --
> Wes Eddy
> MTI Systems
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Re: [aqm] WG status

2014-01-08 Thread Naeem Khademi
I'm interested in contributing to the evaluation guidelines draft as writer
as expressed before, although I won't be able to actively work on this
earlier than the second week of Feb'14.

Regards,
Naeem




On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Wesley Eddy  wrote:

> Hi, as we've entered 2014 and have charter milestones that we're
> working towards, Richard and I thought it would be good to start
> periodically sending a "status report" to the WG mailing list so
> that we can all keep up with what's going on, and focus our efforts
> together on the things that need work.
>
> Towards that goal, here is a snapshot of where we think the AQM
> working group is at today, and what the next steps are that people
> can contribute to:
>
>
> - WG Milestones:
>   - Submit AQM recommendations to IESG for publication, obsoleting RFC
> 2309 (Goal: January 2014)
> - draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation is accepted towards this milestone
> - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation/
> - the draft needs to be updated per comments received, including
> feedback on the recommendations from the Vancouver meeting
> - if the authors are comfortable, a WGLC might be made on the next
> revision
> - we would like to hear from other authors of RFC 2309 on this
> document, if anyone has contacts to them.
>
>   - Submit AQM algorithm evaluation guidelines to IESG for publication
> as Informational (Goal: July 2014)
> - We need an editor team to step forward and begin work on this;
> there was initial work presented in Vancouver, but no draft available or
> adopted by the working group yet.
> - It will be difficult to make this milestone, and will push other
> milestones back, if this work isn't accelerated.
> - Please express interest to the chairs or on-list
>
>   - Submit first algorithm specification to IESG for publication as
> Proposed Standard (Goal: December 2014)
> - Since any Proposed Standard algorithm should be in line with the
> recommendations and be passable versus the evaluation guidelines, this
> milestone is hard to start on without significant progress on the
> previous two.
> - Currently the only algorithm spec with a complete and active
> individual-submission draft is PIE
>
> - Other items:
>   - draft-pan-aqm-pie is under active work as a proposed algorithm:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-pan-aqm-pie-00.txt
>   - CoDel draft is expired; Dave Taht or others may revive it and/or
> describe pairing with FQ/SFQ algorithms:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nichols-tsvwg-codel-01.txt
>   - Other algorithm specifications are welcome!
> - Though, we are not planning on adopting algorithms until
> recommendations and evaluation guidelines are mostly stable
>
>
> --
> Wes Eddy
> MTI Systems
> ___
> aqm mailing list
> aqm@ietf.org
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Re: [aqm] WG status

2014-01-08 Thread Preethi Natarajan


On 1/8/14 11:45 AM, "Wesley Eddy"  wrote:

>
>  - Submit AQM algorithm evaluation guidelines to IESG for publication
>as Informational (Goal: July 2014)
>- We need an editor team to step forward and begin work on this;
>there was initial work presented in Vancouver, but no draft available or
>adopted by the working group yet.
>- It will be difficult to make this milestone, and will push other
>milestones back, if this work isn't accelerated.
>- Please express interest to the chairs or on-list


Interested in contributing towards the evaluation guidelines draft --
write, edit, whatever else is needed to meet deadline.

Thanks,
Preethi (on behalf of PIE team)



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Re: [aqm] WG status

2014-01-08 Thread Dave Taht
I have a doc shepard/researcher working with me to nail down cites from the
70s and 80s. First up however was finding direct web references to
everything cited in the existing  drafts.

Alaric found links to everything missing and modified the existing drafts
to suit. I don't know how the various authors would like the changes (?) -
diffs can be had from the bufferbloat-rfcs repository in github:
https://github.com/dtaht/bufferbloat-rfcs - there were only about 10 URLs
added.

Still struggling with xml2rfc and pandoc2rfc here...
 On Jan 8, 2014 2:46 PM, "Wesley Eddy"  wrote:

> Hi, as we've entered 2014 and have charter milestones that we're
> working towards, Richard and I thought it would be good to start
> periodically sending a "status report" to the WG mailing list so
> that we can all keep up with what's going on, and focus our efforts
> together on the things that need work.
>
> Towards that goal, here is a snapshot of where we think the AQM
> working group is at today, and what the next steps are that people
> can contribute to:
>
>
> - WG Milestones:
>   - Submit AQM recommendations to IESG for publication, obsoleting RFC
> 2309 (Goal: January 2014)
> - draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation is accepted towards this milestone
> - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation/
> - the draft needs to be updated per comments received, including
> feedback on the recommendations from the Vancouver meeting
> - if the authors are comfortable, a WGLC might be made on the next
> revision
> - we would like to hear from other authors of RFC 2309 on this
> document, if anyone has contacts to them.
>
>   - Submit AQM algorithm evaluation guidelines to IESG for publication
> as Informational (Goal: July 2014)
> - We need an editor team to step forward and begin work on this;
> there was initial work presented in Vancouver, but no draft available or
> adopted by the working group yet.
> - It will be difficult to make this milestone, and will push other
> milestones back, if this work isn't accelerated.
> - Please express interest to the chairs or on-list
>
>   - Submit first algorithm specification to IESG for publication as
> Proposed Standard (Goal: December 2014)
> - Since any Proposed Standard algorithm should be in line with the
> recommendations and be passable versus the evaluation guidelines, this
> milestone is hard to start on without significant progress on the
> previous two.
> - Currently the only algorithm spec with a complete and active
> individual-submission draft is PIE
>
> - Other items:
>   - draft-pan-aqm-pie is under active work as a proposed algorithm:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-pan-aqm-pie-00.txt
>   - CoDel draft is expired; Dave Taht or others may revive it and/or
> describe pairing with FQ/SFQ algorithms:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nichols-tsvwg-codel-01.txt
>   - Other algorithm specifications are welcome!
> - Though, we are not planning on adopting algorithms until
> recommendations and evaluation guidelines are mostly stable
>
>
> --
> Wes Eddy
> MTI Systems
> ___
> aqm mailing list
> aqm@ietf.org
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[aqm] WG status

2014-01-08 Thread Wesley Eddy
Hi, as we've entered 2014 and have charter milestones that we're
working towards, Richard and I thought it would be good to start
periodically sending a "status report" to the WG mailing list so
that we can all keep up with what's going on, and focus our efforts
together on the things that need work.

Towards that goal, here is a snapshot of where we think the AQM
working group is at today, and what the next steps are that people
can contribute to:


- WG Milestones:
  - Submit AQM recommendations to IESG for publication, obsoleting RFC
2309 (Goal: January 2014)
- draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation is accepted towards this milestone
- http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-aqm-recommendation/
- the draft needs to be updated per comments received, including
feedback on the recommendations from the Vancouver meeting
- if the authors are comfortable, a WGLC might be made on the next
revision
- we would like to hear from other authors of RFC 2309 on this
document, if anyone has contacts to them.

  - Submit AQM algorithm evaluation guidelines to IESG for publication
as Informational (Goal: July 2014)
- We need an editor team to step forward and begin work on this;
there was initial work presented in Vancouver, but no draft available or
adopted by the working group yet.
- It will be difficult to make this milestone, and will push other
milestones back, if this work isn't accelerated.
- Please express interest to the chairs or on-list

  - Submit first algorithm specification to IESG for publication as
Proposed Standard (Goal: December 2014)
- Since any Proposed Standard algorithm should be in line with the
recommendations and be passable versus the evaluation guidelines, this
milestone is hard to start on without significant progress on the
previous two.
- Currently the only algorithm spec with a complete and active
individual-submission draft is PIE

- Other items:
  - draft-pan-aqm-pie is under active work as a proposed algorithm:
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-pan-aqm-pie-00.txt
  - CoDel draft is expired; Dave Taht or others may revive it and/or
describe pairing with FQ/SFQ algorithms:
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nichols-tsvwg-codel-01.txt
  - Other algorithm specifications are welcome!
- Though, we are not planning on adopting algorithms until
recommendations and evaluation guidelines are mostly stable


-- 
Wes Eddy
MTI Systems
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