Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread Dan McGee
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, is there a reason we had to break CVS links in the AUR interface? I
 guess one could get the community tree from here:
 http://www.archlinux.org/cvs/, but the information is wrong as well
 (cvs.archlinux.org does not exist).

Sweet, so once again my local CVS checkouts are broken. I hate to
always play the role of the complainer, but this is becoming a pain.
Does no one else still have changes cached locally they never checked
in or anything else like that? I understand killing off the ViewCVS
instance, but the whole subdomain being gone kinda sucks when it
wasn't even announced.

Something like this worked for me for any of you guys that may have
checked it out from cvs.archlinux.org rather than plain archlinux.org:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/projects/repos/core
$ find -name Root | xargs sed -i 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/archlinux.org/g'

-Dan


Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread eliott
On 4/26/08, Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So, is there a reason we had to break CVS links in the AUR interface? I
   guess one could get the community tree from here:
   http://www.archlinux.org/cvs/, but the information is wrong as well
   (cvs.archlinux.org does not exist).


 Sweet, so once again my local CVS checkouts are broken. I hate to
  always play the role of the complainer, but this is becoming a pain.
  Does no one else still have changes cached locally they never checked
  in or anything else like that? I understand killing off the ViewCVS
  instance, but the whole subdomain being gone kinda sucks when it
  wasn't even announced.

  Something like this worked for me for any of you guys that may have
  checked it out from cvs.archlinux.org rather than plain archlinux.org:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/projects/repos/core
  $ find -name Root | xargs sed -i 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/archlinux.org/g'

This one was my fault. I asked aaron if I could kill the web intance,
and he said 'whenever'.
I just assumed nothing was using that domain anymore.

I just added it back into the bind config. It should replicate out to
the slave nameservers in an hour or so..


Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread Dan McGee
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:36 AM, eliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 4/26/08, Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, is there a reason we had to break CVS links in the AUR interface? I
 guess one could get the community tree from here:
 http://www.archlinux.org/cvs/, but the information is wrong as well
 (cvs.archlinux.org does not exist).
  
  
   Sweet, so once again my local CVS checkouts are broken. I hate to
always play the role of the complainer, but this is becoming a pain.
Does no one else still have changes cached locally they never checked
in or anything else like that? I understand killing off the ViewCVS
instance, but the whole subdomain being gone kinda sucks when it
wasn't even announced.
  
Something like this worked for me for any of you guys that may have
checked it out from cvs.archlinux.org rather than plain archlinux.org:
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/projects/repos/core
$ find -name Root | xargs sed -i 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/archlinux.org/g'

  This one was my fault. I asked aaron if I could kill the web intance,
  and he said 'whenever'.
  I just assumed nothing was using that domain anymore.

  I just added it back into the bind config. It should replicate out to
  the slave nameservers in an hour or so..

Not a problem- I was mad at first but the workaround above made it
relatively painless. Thanks though, I appreciate your quick fix. :)

-Dan


Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread Thomas Bächler

eliott schrieb:

  http://www.archlinux.org/cvs/, but the information is wrong as well
  (cvs.archlinux.org does not exist).

I just added it back into the bind config. It should replicate out to
the slave nameservers in an hour or so..


The information on the website should be updated anyway.

Issues right now:
1) There is no public SVN checkout method yet
2) The description should reflect that we use SVN and that community 
uses CVS (should mention where one can checkout community)

3) There is no web based viewing for community anymore

I think these should be fixed. How they should be fixed depends on how 
to quick community can move to SVN.




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Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does no one else still have changes cached locally they never checked
  in or anything else like that?

Why do you still have uncommitted changes in CVS when we initially
began this move something like 4 or 5 weeks ago. Please commit them if
they are important - if they are not important enough to commit after
5 weeks, I automatically assume they are insignificant.

And yes, I'm pretty sure you're the only one still using CVS. Travis
and I spent about an hour (most of it was Travis though) making CVS
workable just for you, when you were one of the more vocal people for
moving away from CVS. Please stop using it so we can stop wasting time
fixing it when it breaks for you.


On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Issues right now:
  1) There is no public SVN checkout method yet

I sent you a personal email about getting rid of the autowifi svn repo
so we could repurpose the public svn stuff. Until you give me the
go-ahead on that, this can't happen.

  2) The description should reflect that we use SVN and that community uses
 CVS (should mention where one can checkout community)

Which description? In the wiki?

  3) There is no web based viewing for community anymore

Sure there is. repos.archlinux.org can display ALL of the old CVS repos too

  I think these should be fixed. How they should be fixed depends on how to
 quick community can move to SVN.


Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3) There is no web based viewing for community anymore

  Sure there is. repos.archlinux.org can display ALL of the old CVS repos too


For reference:
http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/community/?root=community


Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread Dan McGee
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does no one else still have changes cached locally they never checked
in or anything else like that?

  Why do you still have uncommitted changes in CVS when we initially
  began this move something like 4 or 5 weeks ago. Please commit them if
  they are important - if they are not important enough to commit after
  5 weeks, I automatically assume they are insignificant.

Well when i redid the udev stuff ages ago, I had to let it langish
because people told me to. And since CVS can't do offline diffs, I
don't even know if I have changes in places. I'm sorry my workflow
isn't quite like yours and that I sometimes like to view history
through command line tools.

I haven't had the chance to do a full checkout and pull the attached
patch over and apply it to SVN, but maybe I'll get a chance sometime.

  And yes, I'm pretty sure you're the only one still using CVS. Travis
  and I spent about an hour (most of it was Travis though) making CVS
  workable just for you, when you were one of the more vocal people for
  moving away from CVS. Please stop using it so we can stop wasting time
  fixing it when it breaks for you.

  On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Issues right now:
1) There is no public SVN checkout method yet

  I sent you a personal email about getting rid of the autowifi svn repo
  so we could repurpose the public svn stuff. Until you give me the
  go-ahead on that, this can't happen.


2) The description should reflect that we use SVN and that community uses
   CVS (should mention where one can checkout community)

  Which description? In the wiki?
The link from the front page: http://archlinux.org/cvs/

I'm normally a fan of progress and change, but I have to disagree with
your tone in this email and how you've managed to move all wrongs to
Thomas and I. Makes my work feel wanted around here.

-Dan


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Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does no one else still have changes cached locally they never checked
  in or anything else like that?
  
Why do you still have uncommitted changes in CVS when we initially
began this move something like 4 or 5 weeks ago. Please commit them if
they are important - if they are not important enough to commit after
5 weeks, I automatically assume they are insignificant.

  Well when i redid the udev stuff ages ago, I had to let it langish
  because people told me to. And since CVS can't do offline diffs, I
  don't even know if I have changes in places. I'm sorry my workflow
  isn't quite like yours and that I sometimes like to view history
  through command line tools.

Couldn't you just use diff? cvs diff would only give you a diff
against the latest CVS, not the SVN repo, which may have changes since
your changes were made?



Re: [arch-dev-public] CVS links in AUR?

2008-04-26 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Aaron Griffin schrieb:


  On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Thomas Bächler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
Issues right now:
1) There is no public SVN checkout method yet
  
 
  I sent you a personal email about getting rid of the autowifi svn repo
  so we could repurpose the public svn stuff. Until you give me the
  go-ahead on that, this can't happen.
 

  I replied you on jabber that day, thought you saw that (as you replied). I
 have no problem with autowifi in git, I would actually prefer it. But I have
 no idea how to convert it properly, as the conversion tool iirc responds
 badly to missing trunk/ directory (I had no trunk/ tags/ etc until one of
 the last revisions).

Ok, will do. There's two git svn conversion tools. One of them fails
like you said - the other is easier. I can't recall which is which,
but I can convert it later (I'm painting right now, heh)

  No, on the homepage: there is a CVS link leading to a site which explains
 how to use CVS and check out core/extra.

  I actually didn't even notice the dropdown field on the right until right
 now. Anyway, the links in AUR do not point to that site.

These two were oversights on my part - we got the packages links
changed, but totally forgot the AUR. Whoops. I will make that change
later today unless Simo gets to it rikki-tick 8)


Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] wget 1.11.1-1

2008-04-26 Thread Eric Belanger

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:


On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Andreas Radke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

in testing for both arches


Seems to work fine here - signed off x86_64





signoff both arches

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Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] tar 1.20-1

2008-04-26 Thread Eric Belanger

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Aaron Griffin wrote:


On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Radke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

in testing for both arches


Seems to work fine, x86_64
I didn't test --lzma, but that is badass!





man page is installed in /usr/man

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[arch-dev-public] Courier-MTA packages

2008-04-26 Thread Tobias Kieslich
Hi Gang,

I maintained the courier* packages for a long time and I still think it
is a very solid mail server suite. I was using it happyly on my own
server but recently fell for a tarmail/dovecot combination. Abandoning
the usage of courier makes it harder to maintain the package, which is
rather complex.

I understand that courier-imap is a very popular imap/pop solution and
should stay in extra as it is one of the big three(dovecot,courier,
cyrus) used in production environments. Courier-MTA is a complete suite
consisting of courier-imap, courier-maildorp an ESMTP server (hence the
name courier-mta) a webconfiguration frontend etc. I still think it is a
very capable solution, technically on par with exim or postfix based
deployments. But it is not as popular, probably because the learning
curve, just like for every other MTA, is rather steep.  However, it will
need an active maintainer who stays uptodate with the development. That
pretty much means you have to use it yourself.

Anyone who wants to take that package? I also will put all my knowledge
into the wiki where my old little setup is explained. I'll need to
update it though. I will also answer any questions another potential
maintainer has. If nobody wants to take it, I say let's keep
courier-authlib, maildrop and imap and let courier-mta go to community.
I'm also open to other solutions.

Cheers,
-T