Re: [arch-general] Cisco VPN config
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Rafa Griman schrieb: >> >> I know it sucks, had to patch it and patch it again when I used openSUSE >> because it didn't work. AFAIK they have no 64 bit VPN client, they have no >> up to date Linux VPN client, ... I'm not a Cisco fan, but my company has >> Cisco gateways/firewalls/whatever and I have no voice into that matter :( > > Many companies have that - which worries me because of the very obvious > security problems, at least in the xauth protocol. > > Unfortunately their publicity is powerful than their products, I really hate cisco and those all noobs who claim about the cisco training... in the real world, cisco is attached to a their restrictive, not efficient and expensive platform, and that is the truth. I will save this mail when my boss will decide to buy any cisco crap :S. Good luck Rafa! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:34:35 -0400 Alexander Lam wrote: > ... > A <- The disk that already has an installation but is smaller > B <- The disk that that you want to put the installation on > > if you dd A onto B, B will get the partition structure from A and > appear smaller. However, you can edit the partition sizes using > gparted like Dan said, and make the partitions fill up the whole B > disk. You can also dd a single partition from A onto B, then run fdisk, DELETE the partition and recreate it with bigger size, then run resize2fs to extend the file system to fill the whole new partition. (Of course resize2fs works only with ext2/ext3/ext4). Cheers, Sergey
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
Will Siddall 提到: Is there something I'm missing in the second instance that I didn't change a file that should be changed? Is there a better way of copying the partitions so I don't run into this problem? Thanks, Will Not only dd, you could also simply use archive mode of rsync or cp. I've done this before, and the system I'm using now is migrated from a 250g to 500g. At that time I used rsync and skipped directory /dev, /proc and /sys. After a successful re-setup of grub, the system boots like a charm. regards, b4283.
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
Thanks everyone for their suggestions. I'm really tempted to give each of these methods a try. For the time being, I did get it finished. Without having to take all the hardware apart, I just made a clean base install of arch onto the disk and use the livecd, mounted the iso and copied everything over. I'm up and running, but whenever this happens again, I'll be sure to give your suggestions a try (and at least it's documented). Thanks so much. Will On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Rafa Griman wrote: > Hi :) > > On Sunday 26 July 2009 20:34:12 Van de Velde Erwin wrote: >> Another option is using rsync to copy all files to the other disk. This can >> be done with a temporary server storage if necessary. If you use the -a >> switch, it keeps permissions intact and works perfectly for Linux, not for >> Windows, but who uses that anyway? ;) > > > I agree. I use rsync to migrate between drives. Haven't had any problems yet. > As Erwin wrote, you can use the -a switch and also the -v and --progress. > > I do this booting with a LiveCD/USB image -> rsync to the temp server/system - >> rsync back. > > Once you rsync back to your laptop with the new drive. Boot with the > LiveCD/USB image and check things like fstab or /boot/grub/menu.lst because > the ID will have changed. Maybe you have to boot a couple of times with the > LiveCD/USB image because you forgot to edit this or that file. > > HTH > > Rafa > > >> On Sunday 26 July 2009, Nergar wrote: >> > I think clonezilla could help you here. >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Dan McGee wrote: >> > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Will Siddall >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > I know this isn't particularly an arch question, but I know Arch >> > > > people are better off to ask then most. >> > > > >> > > > I'm in the process of upgrading my hard drive in my laptop but with >> > > > the amounts of customizations I've done to my setup, I don't want to >> > > > have to set it all up again. >> > > > >> > > > I know about running dd to copy the partition information, but the >> > > > problem with that is that it also copies that partition information >> > > > over. So, if I copy my root partition that started as a 40G >> > > > partition with 90% used and now I have a 60G parition, the used >> > > > portion will be kept at 90% so, it'll show something like 50G of >> > > > data... which doesn't make sense. >> > > >> > > What about a dd followed by using parted/gparted or whatever to resize >> > > things as necessary? They have a good LiveCD too that you should be >> > > able to use to get things copied and then resized. >> > > >> > > I think gparted even has built in support for copying partitions; not >> > > sure if it can do it across drives. >> > > >> > > -Dan > > -- > "We cannot treat computers as Humans. Computers need love." > > rgri...@skype.com > rgri...@jabberes.org >
Re: [arch-general] Cisco VPN config
Rafa Griman schrieb: I know it sucks, had to patch it and patch it again when I used openSUSE because it didn't work. AFAIK they have no 64 bit VPN client, they have no up to date Linux VPN client, ... I'm not a Cisco fan, but my company has Cisco gateways/firewalls/whatever and I have no voice into that matter :( Many companies have that - which worries me because of the very obvious security problems, at least in the xauth protocol. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
Hi :) On Sunday 26 July 2009 20:34:12 Van de Velde Erwin wrote: > Another option is using rsync to copy all files to the other disk. This can > be done with a temporary server storage if necessary. If you use the -a > switch, it keeps permissions intact and works perfectly for Linux, not for > Windows, but who uses that anyway? ;) I agree. I use rsync to migrate between drives. Haven't had any problems yet. As Erwin wrote, you can use the -a switch and also the -v and --progress. I do this booting with a LiveCD/USB image -> rsync to the temp server/system - > rsync back. Once you rsync back to your laptop with the new drive. Boot with the LiveCD/USB image and check things like fstab or /boot/grub/menu.lst because the ID will have changed. Maybe you have to boot a couple of times with the LiveCD/USB image because you forgot to edit this or that file. HTH Rafa > On Sunday 26 July 2009, Nergar wrote: > > I think clonezilla could help you here. > > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Will Siddall > > > > > > wrote: > > > > I know this isn't particularly an arch question, but I know Arch > > > > people are better off to ask then most. > > > > > > > > I'm in the process of upgrading my hard drive in my laptop but with > > > > the amounts of customizations I've done to my setup, I don't want to > > > > have to set it all up again. > > > > > > > > I know about running dd to copy the partition information, but the > > > > problem with that is that it also copies that partition information > > > > over. So, if I copy my root partition that started as a 40G > > > > partition with 90% used and now I have a 60G parition, the used > > > > portion will be kept at 90% so, it'll show something like 50G of > > > > data... which doesn't make sense. > > > > > > What about a dd followed by using parted/gparted or whatever to resize > > > things as necessary? They have a good LiveCD too that you should be > > > able to use to get things copied and then resized. > > > > > > I think gparted even has built in support for copying partitions; not > > > sure if it can do it across drives. > > > > > > -Dan -- "We cannot treat computers as Humans. Computers need love." rgri...@skype.com rgri...@jabberes.org
Re: [arch-general] Cisco VPN config
Hi :) On Sunday 26 July 2009 18:57:07 Thomas Bächler wrote: > Rafa Griman schrieb: > > Got a Cisco VPN connection with my office, but can't manage to get it > > running. I've seen that there's a: > > > > - vpnc package: installed it, but it doesn't import the .pcf file, > > says it can't find the file. > > pcf2vnc /path/to/file.pcf Didn't know of that command 0:) > Seems easy. When it says it can't find the file, then you specified the > wrong file. So what exactly is the problem? Well the problem is (hope I could write was, but haven't tried it yet ;) that the path is right and so's the file. I'll try now with the pcf2vpnc command. Thanks for the tip !!! > > - cisco-vpnclient: but it's out-dated > > This software is the greatest piece of shit ever published from what I > know. But what do you expect from Cisco? A company that solves security > problems by preventing the details from being published can not be taken > seriously. And a company that sells a VPN appliance that is insecure by > design can't either. I know it sucks, had to patch it and patch it again when I used openSUSE because it didn't work. AFAIK they have no 64 bit VPN client, they have no up to date Linux VPN client, ... I'm not a Cisco fan, but my company has Cisco gateways/firewalls/whatever and I have no voice into that matter :( Thanks once again for your help :) Rafa -- "We cannot treat computers as Humans. Computers need love." rgri...@skype.com rgri...@jabberes.org
Re: [arch-general] archboot stills depends of portmap
Am Sonntag 26 Juli 2009 schrieb mathieu p: > 2009/7/26 Tobias Powalowski > > > Am Sonntag 26 Juli 2009 schrieb Allan McRae: > > > mathieu p wrote: > > > > Maybe someone should fix that, since portmap has been replaced by > > > > rpcbind > > > > > > some time ago (and portmap can no longer be found on any repo). > > > > (archboot is in [extra] ) > > > > > > This is a known issue: > > > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15420 > > > > > > Allan > > > > As long as vim is not fixed this cannot move in, install the version from > > testing or use latest git version. > > greetings > > tpowa > > -- > > Tobias Powalowski > > Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) > > http://www.archlinux.org > > tp...@archlinux.org > > Thanks, but it 's just because I made a local repo that I noticed it. I > don't want to use it, but I found this troublesome. > > Regards. Yes i'm aware of it but i can't really do something until those deps get cleaned up and move in. git repository has big changes, which will be available very soon. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 20:25 +0300, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 13:35, Baho Utot wrote: > > Secure Connection Failed > > > > dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate. > > > > The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. > > > > (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) > > > >* This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it > > could be someone trying to impersonate the server. > > > >* If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the > > error may be temporary, and you can try again later. > > > > > > Or you can add an exception… > > > > Then: > > > > Developer Login > > Username: > > Password: > > Why are you using dev.archlinux.org instead of a mirror, BTW? > Because that was the link that was posted by someone for me. I just clicked from evolution.
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 18:05 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Baho Utot schrieb:
> > If you look at what is required in pacman you get
> >
> > Pacman: depends=('bash' 'libarchive>=2.6.0' 'libdownload>=1.3'
> > 'pacman-mirrorlist')
>
> pacman-mirrorlist is just one file which you could include in pacman if
> you wanted. The bash dependency is just for makepkg.
>
> > libarchive:
> > depends=('zlib' 'bzip2' 'xz-utils' 'acl' 'openssl')
>
> You can omit xz-utils. You can probably also omit bzip2, acl and
> openssl, check the configure options. I have no idea why libarchive
> would need openssl (and libdownload wouldn't).
>
> zlib is just for gzip compression.
> bzip2 is for bzip2 compression (which arch hasn't used so far) and
> xz-utils for lzma or xz compression, which we also don't use.
> acl is needed for Access Control Lists, you probably want acl on any
> linux system anyway. If you are lucky, you can disable acl support in
> libarchive.
>
>
> I still don't understand what you want to achieve. But whatever it is,
> resorting to an outdated version of pacman seems like the wrong solution.
>
Those dependency are from the respective PKGBUILDs
I want to track some installed packages on a non Arch distro ( old one )
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Will Siddall wrote: > 1 question I do have is if I dd the entire disk (parition table and > all) then reapply to a larger disk, would that keep everything intact > or am I gonna run into the same problem? > Okay: A <- The disk that already has an installation but is smaller B <- The disk that that you want to put the installation on if you dd A onto B, B will get the partition structure from A and appear smaller. However, you can edit the partition sizes using gparted like Dan said, and make the partitions fill up the whole B disk. -- Alexander Lam
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
Another option is using rsync to copy all files to the other disk. This can be done with a temporary server storage if necessary. If you use the -a switch, it keeps permissions intact and works perfectly for Linux, not for Windows, but who uses that anyway? ;) Greetings! Erwin On Sunday 26 July 2009, Nergar wrote: > I think clonezilla could help you here. > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Will Siddall > > > > wrote: > > > I know this isn't particularly an arch question, but I know Arch > > > people are better off to ask then most. > > > > > > I'm in the process of upgrading my hard drive in my laptop but with > > > the amounts of customizations I've done to my setup, I don't want to > > > have to set it all up again. > > > > > > I know about running dd to copy the partition information, but the > > > problem with that is that it also copies that partition information > > > over. So, if I copy my root partition that started as a 40G partition > > > with 90% used and now I have a 60G parition, the used portion will be > > > kept at 90% so, it'll show something like 50G of data... which doesn't > > > make sense. > > > > What about a dd followed by using parted/gparted or whatever to resize > > things as necessary? They have a good LiveCD too that you should be > > able to use to get things copied and then resized. > > > > I think gparted even has built in support for copying partitions; not > > sure if it can do it across drives. > > > > -Dan
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
I think clonezilla could help you here. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Will Siddall > wrote: > > I know this isn't particularly an arch question, but I know Arch > > people are better off to ask then most. > > > > I'm in the process of upgrading my hard drive in my laptop but with > > the amounts of customizations I've done to my setup, I don't want to > > have to set it all up again. > > > > I know about running dd to copy the partition information, but the > > problem with that is that it also copies that partition information > > over. So, if I copy my root partition that started as a 40G partition > > with 90% used and now I have a 60G parition, the used portion will be > > kept at 90% so, it'll show something like 50G of data... which doesn't > > make sense. > > What about a dd followed by using parted/gparted or whatever to resize > things as necessary? They have a good LiveCD too that you should be > able to use to get things copied and then resized. > > I think gparted even has built in support for copying partitions; not > sure if it can do it across drives. > > -Dan >
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
That's what I wanted to do, but since I'm working in a laptop, I can only have one drive in at a time, which is making things really labour intensive. 1 question I do have is if I dd the entire disk (parition table and all) then reapply to a larger disk, would that keep everything intact or am I gonna run into the same problem? On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Will Siddall wrote: >> I know this isn't particularly an arch question, but I know Arch >> people are better off to ask then most. >> >> I'm in the process of upgrading my hard drive in my laptop but with >> the amounts of customizations I've done to my setup, I don't want to >> have to set it all up again. >> >> I know about running dd to copy the partition information, but the >> problem with that is that it also copies that partition information >> over. So, if I copy my root partition that started as a 40G partition >> with 90% used and now I have a 60G parition, the used portion will be >> kept at 90% so, it'll show something like 50G of data... which doesn't >> make sense. > > What about a dd followed by using parted/gparted or whatever to resize > things as necessary? They have a good LiveCD too that you should be > able to use to get things copied and then resized. > > I think gparted even has built in support for copying partitions; not > sure if it can do it across drives. > > -Dan >
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Will Siddall wrote: > I know this isn't particularly an arch question, but I know Arch > people are better off to ask then most. > > I'm in the process of upgrading my hard drive in my laptop but with > the amounts of customizations I've done to my setup, I don't want to > have to set it all up again. > > I know about running dd to copy the partition information, but the > problem with that is that it also copies that partition information > over. So, if I copy my root partition that started as a 40G partition > with 90% used and now I have a 60G parition, the used portion will be > kept at 90% so, it'll show something like 50G of data... which doesn't > make sense. What about a dd followed by using parted/gparted or whatever to resize things as necessary? They have a good LiveCD too that you should be able to use to get things copied and then resized. I think gparted even has built in support for copying partitions; not sure if it can do it across drives. -Dan
[arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
I know this isn't particularly an arch question, but I know Arch people are better off to ask then most. I'm in the process of upgrading my hard drive in my laptop but with the amounts of customizations I've done to my setup, I don't want to have to set it all up again. I know about running dd to copy the partition information, but the problem with that is that it also copies that partition information over. So, if I copy my root partition that started as a 40G partition with 90% used and now I have a 60G parition, the used portion will be kept at 90% so, it'll show something like 50G of data... which doesn't make sense. I've also just tried copying the partitions to an external, mount the iso's in a livecd session then copy the data over, but for some reason after I modified the menu.lst and fstab files to match my new setup and then restart, the computer doesn't boot. Is there something I'm missing in the second instance that I didn't change a file that should be changed? Is there a better way of copying the partitions so I don't run into this problem? Thanks, Will
Re: [arch-general] archboot stills depends of portmap
2009/7/26 Tobias Powalowski > Am Sonntag 26 Juli 2009 schrieb Allan McRae: > > mathieu p wrote: > > > Maybe someone should fix that, since portmap has been replaced by > rpcbind > > > some time ago (and portmap can no longer be found on any repo). > > > (archboot is in [extra] ) > > > > This is a known issue: > > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15420 > > > > Allan > As long as vim is not fixed this cannot move in, install the version from > testing or use latest git version. > greetings > tpowa > -- > Tobias Powalowski > Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) > http://www.archlinux.org > tp...@archlinux.org > Thanks, but it 's just because I made a local repo that I noticed it. I don't want to use it, but I found this troublesome. Regards.
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 20:25, Roman Kyrylych wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 13:35, Baho Utot wrote: >>> Secure Connection Failed >>> >>> dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate. >>> >>> The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. >>> >>> (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) >>> >>> * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it >>> could be someone trying to impersonate the server. >>> >>> * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the >>> error may be temporary, and you can try again later. >>> >>> >>> Or you can add an exception… >>> >>> Then: >>> >>> Developer Login >>> Username: >>> Password: >> >> Why are you using dev.archlinux.org instead of a mirror, BTW? > > Ah, ignore this. > I've just realized you just clicked on that link, the correct is: > http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/pacman/ Yeah this my fault - my firefox keyword for package searches uses de.archlinux.org :oops:
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 20:25, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 13:35, Baho Utot wrote: >> Secure Connection Failed >> >> dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate. >> >> The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. >> >> (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) >> >> * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it >> could be someone trying to impersonate the server. >> >> * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the >> error may be temporary, and you can try again later. >> >> >> Or you can add an exception… >> >> Then: >> >> Developer Login >> Username: >> Password: > > Why are you using dev.archlinux.org instead of a mirror, BTW? Ah, ignore this. I've just realized you just clicked on that link, the correct is: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/pacman/ -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 13:35, Baho Utot wrote: > Secure Connection Failed > > dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate. > > The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. > > (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) > > * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it > could be someone trying to impersonate the server. > > * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the > error may be temporary, and you can try again later. > > > Or you can add an exception… > > Then: > > Developer Login > Username: > Password: Why are you using dev.archlinux.org instead of a mirror, BTW? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Cisco VPN config
Rafa Griman schrieb: Got a Cisco VPN connection with my office, but can't manage to get it running. I've seen that there's a: - vpnc package: installed it, but it doesn't import the .pcf file, says it can't find the file. pcf2vnc /path/to/file.pcf Seems easy. When it says it can't find the file, then you specified the wrong file. So what exactly is the problem? - cisco-vpnclient: but it's out-dated This software is the greatest piece of shit ever published from what I know. But what do you expect from Cisco? A company that solves security problems by preventing the details from being published can not be taken seriously. And a company that sells a VPN appliance that is insecure by design can't either. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[arch-general] Cisco VPN config
Hi :) Got a Cisco VPN connection with my office, but can't manage to get it running. I've seen that there's a: - vpnc package: installed it, but it doesn't import the .pcf file, says it can't find the file. - cisco-vpnclient: but it's out-dated I've been searching through the Wiki but haven't found any help on how to setup a Cisco VPN connection to my office. Anyone have a link or some tips they could share? TIA Rafa BTW Got the KMS + UXA running, seems I messed something up the other time I tried 0:) Thanks also for the kdmrc tip. -- "We cannot treat computers as Humans. Computers need love." rgri...@skype.com rgri...@jabberes.org
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
Baho Utot schrieb:
If you look at what is required in pacman you get
Pacman: depends=('bash' 'libarchive>=2.6.0' 'libdownload>=1.3'
'pacman-mirrorlist')
pacman-mirrorlist is just one file which you could include in pacman if
you wanted. The bash dependency is just for makepkg.
libarchive:
depends=('zlib' 'bzip2' 'xz-utils' 'acl' 'openssl')
You can omit xz-utils. You can probably also omit bzip2, acl and
openssl, check the configure options. I have no idea why libarchive
would need openssl (and libdownload wouldn't).
zlib is just for gzip compression.
bzip2 is for bzip2 compression (which arch hasn't used so far) and
xz-utils for lzma or xz compression, which we also don't use.
acl is needed for Access Control Lists, you probably want acl on any
linux system anyway. If you are lucky, you can disable acl support in
libarchive.
I still don't understand what you want to achieve. But whatever it is,
resorting to an outdated version of pacman seems like the wrong solution.
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Re: [arch-general] archboot stills depends of portmap
Am Sonntag 26 Juli 2009 schrieb Allan McRae: > mathieu p wrote: > > Maybe someone should fix that, since portmap has been replaced by rpcbind > > some time ago (and portmap can no longer be found on any repo). > > (archboot is in [extra] ) > > This is a known issue: > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15420 > > Allan As long as vim is not fixed this cannot move in, install the version from testing or use latest git version. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 13:38 +0100, Nathan K. Bathory wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:55:33 -0400 > Baho Utot wrote: > > > On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 21:41 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > > > Baho Utot wrote: > > > > I think I'll stop now, I lost count > > > > > > > > > > full list: > > > > > > > pactree -u pacman | sort > > > acl > > > attr > > > bash > > > bzip2 > > > coreutils > > > cracklib > > > db > > > gcc-libs > > > gdbm > > > glibc > > > gmp > > > kernel-headers > > > libarchive > > > libdownload > > > ncurses > > > openssl > > > pacman > > > pacman-mirrorlist > > > pam > > > perl > > > readline > > > shadow > > > tzdata > > > xz-utils > > > zlib > > > > > > > > > But really it is just libarchive and libdownload. The coreutils > > > package covers most of the rest and if your system does not have > > > coreutils you are in trouble... > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > The system doesn't have > > acl > > attr > > cracklib > > gdbm > > libarchive > > libdownload > > pacman > > pacman-mirrorlist > > pam > > xz-utils > > zlib > > > > I will try building pacman,libarchive,libdownload and see how it will > > go. > > > > by any chance do you have /usr/bin/pacman.static ? Nope
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:55:33 -0400 Baho Utot wrote: > On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 21:41 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > > Baho Utot wrote: > > > I think I'll stop now, I lost count > > > > > > > full list: > > > > > pactree -u pacman | sort > > acl > > attr > > bash > > bzip2 > > coreutils > > cracklib > > db > > gcc-libs > > gdbm > > glibc > > gmp > > kernel-headers > > libarchive > > libdownload > > ncurses > > openssl > > pacman > > pacman-mirrorlist > > pam > > perl > > readline > > shadow > > tzdata > > xz-utils > > zlib > > > > > > But really it is just libarchive and libdownload. The coreutils > > package covers most of the rest and if your system does not have > > coreutils you are in trouble... > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > The system doesn't have > acl > attr > cracklib > gdbm > libarchive > libdownload > pacman > pacman-mirrorlist > pam > xz-utils > zlib > > I will try building pacman,libarchive,libdownload and see how it will > go. > by any chance do you have /usr/bin/pacman.static ?
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 21:41 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Baho Utot wrote: > > I think I'll stop now, I lost count > > > > full list: > > > pactree -u pacman | sort > acl > attr > bash > bzip2 > coreutils > cracklib > db > gcc-libs > gdbm > glibc > gmp > kernel-headers > libarchive > libdownload > ncurses > openssl > pacman > pacman-mirrorlist > pam > perl > readline > shadow > tzdata > xz-utils > zlib > > > But really it is just libarchive and libdownload. The coreutils package > covers most of the rest and if your system does not have coreutils you > are in trouble... > > Allan > > > The system doesn't have acl attr cracklib gdbm libarchive libdownload pacman pacman-mirrorlist pam xz-utils zlib I will try building pacman,libarchive,libdownload and see how it will go.
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
Baho Utot wrote: I think I'll stop now, I lost count full list: > pactree -u pacman | sort acl attr bash bzip2 coreutils cracklib db gcc-libs gdbm glibc gmp kernel-headers libarchive libdownload ncurses openssl pacman pacman-mirrorlist pam perl readline shadow tzdata xz-utils zlib But really it is just libarchive and libdownload. The coreutils package covers most of the rest and if your system does not have coreutils you are in trouble... Allan
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 13:20 +0200, Pierre Chapuis wrote:
> Le Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:35:04 -0400,
> Baho Utot a écrit :
>
> > On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 18:23 -0700, Aaron Griffin wrote:
>
> > > https://dev.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/pacman/
> > >
> > > Deps are libarchive, libdownload, bash, and the mirrorlist package...
> > > what are you having a problem with?
>
> > Secure Connection Failed
> >
> > dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate.
>
> > Then:
> > Developer Login
> > Username:
> > Password:
>
> I think it's the same thing as
> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/pacman/, and I don't see why you
> say there are 10 deps either.
>
If you look at what is required in pacman you get
Pacman: depends=('bash' 'libarchive>=2.6.0' 'libdownload>=1.3'
'pacman-mirrorlist')
optdepends=('fakeroot: for makepkg usage as normal user'
'python: for rankmirrors script usage')
libarchive:
depends=('zlib' 'bzip2' 'xz-utils' 'acl' 'openssl')
libdownload:
depends=('glibc')
Ok: now second round dependencies.
'openssl':
depends=('zlib' 'perl')
'acl':
depends=('attr>=2.4.41')
'xz-utils' :
depends=('bash')
'bzip2':
depends=('glibc')
'zlib':
depends=('glibc')
Third round dependencies
perl:
depends=('gdbm' 'db>=4.7' 'coreutils' 'glibc' 'sh')
attr:
depends=('glibc')
Fourth round dependencies:
gdbm:
db:
coreutils:
I think I'll stop now, I lost count
This pacmna build is for a non Arch system from 4 years back.
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
Le Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:35:04 -0400, Baho Utot a écrit : > On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 18:23 -0700, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > https://dev.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/pacman/ > > > > Deps are libarchive, libdownload, bash, and the mirrorlist package... > > what are you having a problem with? > Secure Connection Failed > > dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate. > Then: > Developer Login > Username: > Password: I think it's the same thing as http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/pacman/, and I don't see why you say there are 10 deps either. -- catwell
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 18:23 -0700, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > >> On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 14:48 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 13:03, Baho Utot wrote: > >>> > I need pacman 2.98 or 3.0 and the dependencies, either the PKGBUILDS or > >>> > the binaries. > >>> > > >>> > I need this for an older system (distro) > >>> > > >>> > Is it still available? > >>> > > >>> > Thanks > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> Out of curiosity, why do you need the old copies? > >> > >> The current version just have too many dependencies to be able to use > >> them. The older one only needs libtar,fakeroot and libdownload. THe > >> new one requires somewhere around 10. > > > > pacman itself only requires libarchive and libdownload/libfetch... > > makepkg and friends bring in the other deps. > > > > Also note that the old pacman did not use libdownload - that was added > > in 3.0 I believe > > > > Still... the old versions are just bad compared to the current pacman > > https://dev.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/pacman/ > > Deps are libarchive, libdownload, bash, and the mirrorlist package... > what are you having a problem with? Secure Connection Failed dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server. * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later. Or you can add an exception… Then: Developer Login Username: Password:
