Re: [arch-general] Does anybody still have kde3 running? libpng problems preventing apps from running?
On 03/04/2010 05:22 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > The only thing I really need from KDE is the Konqueror web browser. Wait.. someone who actually likes Konqueror? Why?
Re: [arch-general] Automounting internal devices in Gnome
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Flavio Costa wrote: > Hi, > > Before Gnome 2.28 (I've been using Arch since 2.22, I guess), Gnome used to > be able to mount my internal devices (in this case some NTFS partitions I > have, and yes use Windows sometimes...) automatically (I just had to grant > a > permission on a neat GTK interface). > I guess that magic used to happen due to a set of softwares working > together, those being HAL, DBus, PolicyKit and Gnome. > > When Gnome 2.28 came out (and also devicekit-*, the replacement of > policykit > with polkit and the deprecation of HAL) this neat magic dissapeared and > I've > looked for many solutions in the forums or in others places but I couldn't > found one. > > Everytime I want to use those extra NTFS partitions, I have to manually > click one the "Places" menu and select the device, after clicking I'm > prompted for my root password. I type it and the disk is mounted. > But that's boring (all my musics are stored on the NTFS partition, so > everytime I want to listen to them I have to do this). > > I even managed to supress the prompting for the password but I believe that > due to some update that stopped working. > > $ cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/61-custom.conf > > [Automount Devices] > > Identities=unix-group:storage > > Action=org.freedesktop.devicekit.disks.* > > ResultActive=yes > > ResultAny=no > > ResultInactive=no > > > The above doesn't work anymore (I have to enter the password everytime). > > So despite of fstab, does anyone knows the solution or a workaround for > this > problem? > > -- > Flávio Coutinho da Costa > According to the above config, do you belong to the group storage ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
On 03/04/2010 09:24 PM, Gary Wright wrote: On 03/04/2010 07:03 PM, Allan McRae wrote: On 05/03/10 11:57, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: On 03/04/10 at 08:46pm, Daenyth Blank wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 20:27, Baho Utot wrote: Where do I start? I can't read the guide all I see is some red and green lines over some text. Is some one trying to obfuscate this process? Now tell the truth here.. Did your kids get their crayons out again? Can someone make sure this gets in the newsletter next month? :D Consider it done :P Just remind me around the 20th I have to point out that the image is not mine. I found it on the forums: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=435522#p435522 Allan Good thing Allan. You know... I like to look at what kind of tabs one has open when they do the screenshot thing: http://omploader.org/vM3FsNg/human-or-not-or-anon.png Haha, nevermind, I just read the rest of that thread and saw you made that point a year and a half ago! Gary
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
On 03/04/2010 07:03 PM, Allan McRae wrote: On 05/03/10 11:57, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: On 03/04/10 at 08:46pm, Daenyth Blank wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 20:27, Baho Utot wrote: Where do I start? I can't read the guide all I see is some red and green lines over some text. Is some one trying to obfuscate this process? Now tell the truth here.. Did your kids get their crayons out again? Can someone make sure this gets in the newsletter next month? :D Consider it done :P Just remind me around the 20th I have to point out that the image is not mine. I found it on the forums: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=435522#p435522 Allan Good thing Allan. You know... I like to look at what kind of tabs one has open when they do the screenshot thing: http://omploader.org/vM3FsNg/human-or-not-or-anon.png
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
On 05/03/10 11:57, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: On 03/04/10 at 08:46pm, Daenyth Blank wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 20:27, Baho Utot wrote: Where do I start? I can't read the guide all I see is some red and green lines over some text. Is some one trying to obfuscate this process? Now tell the truth here.. Did your kids get their crayons out again? Can someone make sure this gets in the newsletter next month? :D Consider it done :P Just remind me around the 20th I have to point out that the image is not mine. I found it on the forums: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=435522#p435522 Allan
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
On 03/04/10 at 08:46pm, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 20:27, Baho Utot wrote: > > Where do I start? > > > > I can't read the guide all I see is some red and green lines over some text. > > > > Is some one trying to obfuscate this process? > > > > Now tell the truth here.. > > > > Did your kids get their crayons out again? > > > > > > Can someone make sure this gets in the newsletter next month? :D Consider it done :P Just remind me around the 20th --
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 20:27, Baho Utot wrote: > Where do I start? > > I can't read the guide all I see is some red and green lines over some text. > > Is some one trying to obfuscate this process? > > Now tell the truth here.. > > Did your kids get their crayons out again? > > Can someone make sure this gets in the newsletter next month? :D
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
Allan McRae wrote: On 05/03/10 11:03, Andreas Wagner wrote: Hello, I am thoroughly enjoying using arch linux so I have tried to register for the Arch forums. I have tried several times but I get the message: "Bots are unwelcome here. The door is right over there, don't let it hit you on the way out." I assure you I am no bot. It would be great if someone could fix this. Here is a guide: http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/human-or-not.png Where do I start? I can't read the guide all I see is some red and green lines over some text. Is some one trying to obfuscate this process? Now tell the truth here.. Did your kids get their crayons out again?
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 05/03/10 11:03, Andreas Wagner wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I am thoroughly enjoying using arch linux so I have tried to register >> for the Arch forums. I have tried several times but I get the message: >> >> "Bots are unwelcome here. The door is right over there, don't let it hit >> you on the way out." >> >> I assure you I am no bot. >> >> It would be great if someone could fix this. >> > > Here is a guide: > http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/human-or-not.png I miss Simo, we used to get these all the time and he used to tell me how many people couldn't quite figure it out. :/ -Dan
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
2010/3/5, Allan McRae : > Here is a guide: > http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/human-or-not.png Nice. :-) AHAHAH -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
On 05/03/10 11:03, Andreas Wagner wrote: Hello, I am thoroughly enjoying using arch linux so I have tried to register for the Arch forums. I have tried several times but I get the message: "Bots are unwelcome here. The door is right over there, don't let it hit you on the way out." I assure you I am no bot. It would be great if someone could fix this. Here is a guide: http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/human-or-not.png
Re: [arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
2010/3/5, Andreas Wagner : > Hello, > > I am thoroughly enjoying using arch linux so I have tried to register for > the Arch forums. I have tried several times but I get the message: > > "Bots are unwelcome here. The door is right over there, don't let it hit > you on the way out." > > I assure you I am no bot. > > It would be great if someone could fix this. Select "No" where you read "Are you a bot?" at register page. -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it
[arch-general] can't register for Arch forums
Hello, I am thoroughly enjoying using arch linux so I have tried to register for the Arch forums. I have tried several times but I get the message: "Bots are unwelcome here. The door is right over there, don't let it hit you on the way out." I assure you I am no bot. It would be great if someone could fix this. Thanks, Andreas
Re: [arch-general] Does anybody still have kde3 running? libpng problems preventing apps from running?
Laurie Clark-Michalek wrote: [putolin] point and rebuttal is rather childish and silly, the principal is, KDE 4 isn't perfect. The version of KDE 3 you are using is the last, and thus I imagine in many ways, it is perfect. Everything works, and it is stable software. The first version of KDE 3 was released in 2002, and the last in 2008. That's 6 years. KDE 4.0 was released in January 2008, so get back to me in 2014, and tell me what your opinion of the latest release of KDE 4 is like. They'll probably have fixed the column width problem XD That's like saying world hunger is going to be solved and yes it has some problems but get back to me in 2099. I am not waiting that long, I am using KDE 3.5.10 and when I finally can't use that I am going to Xcfe. The only thing I really need from KDE is the Konqueror web browser.
Re: [arch-general] top posting
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Denis Kobozev wrote: > > Bottom posting shows its downside only when you recently joined a > mailing list, for example - you start receiving emails from threads > that have been going for a long time and you have no idea what people > are discussing. But if you're really interested, you can always use > the archive. > Using the archive might actually be nicer than reading backward a huge discussion that has been going for a long time.
Re: [arch-general] top posting
The only advantage of top posting I can think of is that it enables you to forward the entire chain of emails to a new person with one click. You could, of course, bottom post and keep the entire chain in each email, but it's probably even worse than top posting, since you would have to scroll through the whole mess each time just to see what another person said. So in office environment, top posting is probably preferable to bottom posting. Although I do switch to bottom posting even when replying to office-style communication when I get a big list of unrelated questions. Bottom posting shows its downside only when you recently joined a mailing list, for example - you start receiving emails from threads that have been going for a long time and you have no idea what people are discussing. But if you're really interested, you can always use the archive. Denis.
[arch-general] Crazy cursor with Linux Wacom on Tablet PC
Hi All, I have a Lenovo X200 Tablet PC, and I've been using Linux Wacom drivers from AUR [1] with no problems. A few weeks ago, I decided to check for new drivers, and I not only found that I wasn't using the last linuxwacom drivers, but that they have been changed to xf86-input-wacom [2]. Ok, I removed the linuxwacom paquet, and compiled & installed the new ones. But I discovered that the pen has gone crazy, as you can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGCjuniMYbY . Sorry for the video, but I didn't know how to explain the problem with just words. Touching with finger works ok, it just needs calibration to correct a little displacement. The PC is a Lenovo X200 Tablet, I've tried xf86-input-wacom and xf86-input-wacom-git [3], I've tried with no xorg.conf file (auto configuration), and using an xorg.conf file as commented in ThinkWiki [4], and the behaviour is always the same. I've tried to recompile the old linuxwacom, but the current version in AUR doesn't compile, and I don't have a copy of the previous version I was using. Of course, I've also tried googling, but no results with "Linux Wacom flickering cursor" or similar wording. Any hint? Maybe this doubt is more suited for Linux Wacom developers that General Arch Linux? Regards, Sergi [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16912 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28999 [3] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32033 [4] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
Re: [arch-general] Does anybody still have kde3 running? libpng problems preventing apps from running?
On 4 March 2010 08:11, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 03/03/2010 10:15 PM, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: >> David, are you running kdemod-legacy? If not, you should try it. >> >> Sébastien Leblanc >> > > Sebastien > > Yes, I'm running kdemod3-legacy. It has been really great for a long > time. (Not > to mention I have the whole thing cached so moving it around is a breeze) > > I'm using the rit repo: > > [kdemod-legacy] > Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/kdemod/legacy/x86_64 > > When I did the install a few days ago, I was pleased to notice that > some of the > packages had been updated in the past month or two. I'll try the AUR libpng > suggestions and see if that doesn't get kde3 back. > > to > firing up kde44 for the first time on this box> > > > > And.. I just went through the initial run through of kde44 on the > new > server and it would be 'funny' if it wasn't so 'sad'. How much more lipstick > are > we going to put on that pig?? > > Don't get me wrong, it is a gorgeous desktop, but the basics and > fundamentals > are so F'ed up it is ridiculous. The more we struggle with it, the more I am > convinced that it is a fundamental flaw in the widget set that kde4 is built > on > that is the inherent cause of a large part of the usability problems. (that > and > -- kde4 is so far behind that they are just throwing code together so the > milestone check-boxes can be checked off regardless of result.) I don't think > the devs have adequate fine-grained control over the polymorphized > mutiply-inherited widget set kde4 is built on to be able to fix much of what > is > wrong with the desktop. > > Case in point, I go to add fonts which requires the root password for > system > wide font install, but the "[ ] remember for this session" check box is > missing > so you have to enter the root password for every single font you selected. > Damn > glad I only selected about 30 to add... How does something like that > disappear. > It probably went to the same place the color setting controls went for the > system monitor cpu, network, etc... plasmoids. Off in La,La land somewhere... > > Then there is whatever konqueror has now become. I can use it, in fact > I even > like it, but it is so frustrating to work with you just want to scream. Simple > crap like it remembering the size of the columns you have set, but it can't > even > get that right. I mean go adjust view properties add owner, group and > permissions, then size the columns so you have a reasonable file name field > width and a tidy width for the remaining columns so you have no horizontal > scroll at the bottom. Then go settings -> configure konqueror, choose any > setting and click "Apply", the columns automagically resize them selves every > time. What is this some dime-store gui framework that can't do simple stuff > like > remember column sizes? That never happened in kde3. > > Then there is the complete lack of logical layout for any of the > controls on a > majority of the dialogs. Wasted space everywhere. Go right click the desktop, > click activity settings to change the wallpaper and look at all the wasted > space > those three silly controls take up at the top of the wallpaper thumbnail list > and that huge amount of space that monitor icon takes up on the right side. > > At the very least, those controls should be on the right-side under > the little > monitor icon that takes up a quarter of the dialog width so you could have the > thumbnail list extend to the top of the dialog showing 2-3 more thumbnails > with > each scroll. > > Then there is the scrolling itself, kde4 can't even figure out how to > scroll an > even "page up/page down" (or list up/list down) without something getting > stuck > 1/2 in and 1/2 out of the viewing area or skipping 2-3 items altogether -- and > we have been dealing with these same problems since June 4, 2008 with the > "Official" release of 4.0.4! > > But, it is a damn good looking desktop :p > > I feel better now I just don't see any light at the end of the > tunnel? I certainly thought that by the 4.4 release, all of this beta and .0 > (dot zero) type stuff would be gone. At this rate, I could see many of the > same > frustrations being dealt with in 2012. And if it isn't fixed before the Mayan > calendar runs out.. who knows :p Oh well, que sara flux, xfce, openbox, > windowmaker, gnome, etc.. all still do a fine job and they do it without any > scrolling problems > > > > -- > David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. > Rankin Law Firm, PLLC > 510 Ochiltree Street > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > Telephone: (936) 715-9333 > Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 > www.rankinlawfirm.com > Well I like it :) This is sure to get one of us told off for not keeping it relatively on topic, but hey, everyone's got to have fun some time. There are problems. The biggest for me is that after setting your wallpaper, and pressing apply, the OK bu
Re: [arch-general] weird network issues
Doh! Looks like this is the same PEBKAC bug that someone else ran into. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17349 Never mind ... DR On Thu, March 4, 2010 3:19 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > On Thu, March 4, 2010 1:32 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: >> Normally the nm-applet puts me online automagically. Not today. :-( >> >> nm-applet showed up as disconnected when I booted up and logged in >> today. (Only time I've ever seen that happen before is when I had >> accidentally turned off the wireless switch on the laptop.) >> >> Looking through the logs showed this: >> >> Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5326]: segfault at 2 >> ip 7f52cac12559 sp 7fff5fec02b0 error 4 in >> libc-2.11.1.so[7f52cab9c000+14d000] >> Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5327]: segfault at 2 >> ip 7f6f0c274559 sp 7fff58dc1420 error 4 in >> libc-2.11.1.so[7f6f0c1fe000+14d000] >> Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5328]: segfault at 2 >> ip 7f54140b8559 sp 7fffb42a2c30 error 4 in >> libc-2.11.1.so[7f5414042000+14d000] >> >> Restarting hal generates more of the same messages. >> >> I was finally able to get online manually using netcfg, but I'd like to >> get this up and running again. Anyone have any idea what's going on? >> >> Thanks, >> >> DR >> > > Perhaps related? > > Mar 4 15:12:47 daroselin NetworkManager: default_adapter_cb(): > bluez error getting default adapter: The name org.bluez was not provided > by any .service files > > > Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? NetworkManager is > still not finding my (wired) LAN connection - even after reboot. > nm-applet just reports "Networking Disabled". > > I have no idea what's causing this. (i.e., which package upgrade broke > it.) :-( > > Thanks, > > DR >
Re: [arch-general] weird network issues
On Thu, March 4, 2010 1:32 pm, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > Normally the nm-applet puts me online automagically. Not today. :-( > > nm-applet showed up as disconnected when I booted up and logged in > today. (Only time I've ever seen that happen before is when I had > accidentally turned off the wireless switch on the laptop.) > > Looking through the logs showed this: > > Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5326]: segfault at 2 > ip 7f52cac12559 sp 7fff5fec02b0 error 4 in > libc-2.11.1.so[7f52cab9c000+14d000] > Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5327]: segfault at 2 > ip 7f6f0c274559 sp 7fff58dc1420 error 4 in > libc-2.11.1.so[7f6f0c1fe000+14d000] > Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5328]: segfault at 2 > ip 7f54140b8559 sp 7fffb42a2c30 error 4 in > libc-2.11.1.so[7f5414042000+14d000] > > Restarting hal generates more of the same messages. > > I was finally able to get online manually using netcfg, but I'd like to > get this up and running again. Anyone have any idea what's going on? > > Thanks, > > DR > Perhaps related? Mar 4 15:12:47 daroselin NetworkManager: default_adapter_cb(): bluez error getting default adapter: The name org.bluez was not provided by any .service files Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here? NetworkManager is still not finding my (wired) LAN connection - even after reboot. nm-applet just reports "Networking Disabled". I have no idea what's causing this. (i.e., which package upgrade broke it.) :-( Thanks, DR
[arch-general] weird network issues
Normally the nm-applet puts me online automagically. Not today. :-( nm-applet showed up as disconnected when I booted up and logged in today. (Only time I've ever seen that happen before is when I had accidentally turned off the wireless switch on the laptop.) Looking through the logs showed this: Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5326]: segfault at 2 ip 7f52cac12559 sp 7fff5fec02b0 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f52cab9c000+14d000] Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5327]: segfault at 2 ip 7f6f0c274559 sp 7fff58dc1420 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f6f0c1fe000+14d000] Mar 4 11:11:13 daroselin kernel: hald-probe-inpu[5328]: segfault at 2 ip 7f54140b8559 sp 7fffb42a2c30 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f5414042000+14d000] Restarting hal generates more of the same messages. I was finally able to get online manually using netcfg, but I'd like to get this up and running again. Anyone have any idea what's going on? Thanks, DR
Re: [arch-general] top posting
Aaron Griffin wrote: However, this is a mailing list. Not everyone is aware of the "state" of the list at any given time. It's best to bottom post and only reference relevant material so that even someone coming upon the 15th email in a chain is able to read just that email and understand it for the most part. If the 15th email just said "Yeah, that's a good idea" then everyone is confused And if it's a lengthy email, it doesn't make clear /which/ of the multiple ideas layed there is a good (bad) one. In such cases you should try to do an "inline reply", placing the original text / paragraph, and your reply. Repeat for each piece of text you have something to say about. If there are old emails not relevant, trim them. Eg. originally I got three email levels here: Juan Diego ->Patrick Burroughs -> Aaron Griffin Since my answer pertains just to this last one (even though it's still related to Juan Diego's question!), I'm leaving only the last paragraph from Aaron's (I could as well kept his whole mail). Wikipedia also has a nice article about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[arch-general] Automounting internal devices in Gnome
Hi, Before Gnome 2.28 (I've been using Arch since 2.22, I guess), Gnome used to be able to mount my internal devices (in this case some NTFS partitions I have, and yes use Windows sometimes...) automatically (I just had to grant a permission on a neat GTK interface). I guess that magic used to happen due to a set of softwares working together, those being HAL, DBus, PolicyKit and Gnome. When Gnome 2.28 came out (and also devicekit-*, the replacement of policykit with polkit and the deprecation of HAL) this neat magic dissapeared and I've looked for many solutions in the forums or in others places but I couldn't found one. Everytime I want to use those extra NTFS partitions, I have to manually click one the "Places" menu and select the device, after clicking I'm prompted for my root password. I type it and the disk is mounted. But that's boring (all my musics are stored on the NTFS partition, so everytime I want to listen to them I have to do this). I even managed to supress the prompting for the password but I believe that due to some update that stopped working. $ cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/61-custom.conf [Automount Devices] Identities=unix-group:storage Action=org.freedesktop.devicekit.disks.* ResultActive=yes ResultAny=no ResultInactive=no The above doesn't work anymore (I have to enter the password everytime). So despite of fstab, does anyone knows the solution or a workaround for this problem? -- Flávio Coutinho da Costa
Re: [arch-general] top posting
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Patrick Burroughs wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 23:31, Juan Diego wrote: >> Hello listmates, >> >> is there any special reason of why top-posting is a bad thing? > > To be clichéd... > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? To explain this a bit more verbosely: Top posting assumes that everyone reading the email is up-to-speed on all the previous emails and remembers them all. It's used in office situations where emails are fired off rapidly for every little thing. The newly-added text is meant to be most important. However, this is a mailing list. Not everyone is aware of the "state" of the list at any given time. It's best to bottom post and only reference relevant material so that even someone coming upon the 15th email in a chain is able to read just that email and understand it for the most part. If the 15th email just said "Yeah, that's a good idea" then everyone is confused
Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.33-1
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 04:13, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > When booting the kernel, I noticed a long hang (180s according to udev) > while loading my modules. It times out and fails to load. Looking into > it I found out that the module "parport_pc" was causing the problem. > Manually loading this module also times out (but doesn't crash the kernel). > I'm using x86_64 on an Acer TravelMate 6592. This is my lspci -vv > output: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/184074/ > > Help appreciated :) > You don't seem to have a parallel port on your computer, so you could just blacklist parport_pc. -- Pelle
Re: [arch-general] Weird group: rtkit
On 04/03/10 21:17, Magnus Therning wrote: I was just poking around in my /etc/groups when I found rtkit:x:99: I suspect this belongs to rtkit in some way. However, this group id conflicts with nobody:x:99: Looking at the rtkit.install I notice that the group id isn't hardcoded, so I don't quite know how this could have happened. Is there likely to be any harm in renumbering the rtkit group to some unused id? This was a bug in shadow that is fixed by the package in [testing]. There is no harm in changing the group id, but I would reinstall rtkit so that its files permissions are set to the new group id (or do it manually yourself). Allan
[arch-general] Weird group: rtkit
I was just poking around in my /etc/groups when I found rtkit:x:99: I suspect this belongs to rtkit in some way. However, this group id conflicts with nobody:x:99: Looking at the rtkit.install I notice that the group id isn't hardcoded, so I don't quite know how this could have happened. Is there likely to be any harm in renumbering the rtkit group to some unused id? /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
Re: [arch-general] top posting
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:36:13 +0900 Juan Diego wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) > wrote: > > On 03/03/10 at 11:36pm, Patrick Burroughs wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 23:31, Juan Diego > >> wrote: > >> > Hello listmates, > >> > > >> > is there any special reason of why top-posting is a bad thing? > >> > >> To be clichéd... > >> > >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read > >> text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > >> A: Top-posting. > >> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > >> > >> ~celti > > > > I like it! > > -- > > > > got it > Because its a mailing list, not a blog
Re: [arch-general] top posting
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Daniel J Griffiths (Ghost1227) wrote: > On 03/03/10 at 11:36pm, Patrick Burroughs wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 23:31, Juan Diego wrote: >> > Hello listmates, >> > >> > is there any special reason of why top-posting is a bad thing? >> >> To be clichéd... >> >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >> A: Top-posting. >> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? >> >> ~celti > > I like it! > -- > got it
Re: [arch-general] Does anybody still have kde3 running? libpng problems preventing apps from running?
On 03/03/2010 10:15 PM, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: > David, are you running kdemod-legacy? If not, you should try it. > > Sébastien Leblanc > Sebastien Yes, I'm running kdemod3-legacy. It has been really great for a long time. (Not to mention I have the whole thing cached so moving it around is a breeze) I'm using the rit repo: [kdemod-legacy] Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/kdemod/legacy/x86_64 When I did the install a few days ago, I was pleased to notice that some of the packages had been updated in the past month or two. I'll try the AUR libpng suggestions and see if that doesn't get kde3 back. And.. I just went through the initial run through of kde44 on the new server and it would be 'funny' if it wasn't so 'sad'. How much more lipstick are we going to put on that pig?? Don't get me wrong, it is a gorgeous desktop, but the basics and fundamentals are so F'ed up it is ridiculous. The more we struggle with it, the more I am convinced that it is a fundamental flaw in the widget set that kde4 is built on that is the inherent cause of a large part of the usability problems. (that and -- kde4 is so far behind that they are just throwing code together so the milestone check-boxes can be checked off regardless of result.) I don't think the devs have adequate fine-grained control over the polymorphized mutiply-inherited widget set kde4 is built on to be able to fix much of what is wrong with the desktop. Case in point, I go to add fonts which requires the root password for system wide font install, but the "[ ] remember for this session" check box is missing so you have to enter the root password for every single font you selected. Damn glad I only selected about 30 to add... How does something like that disappear. It probably went to the same place the color setting controls went for the system monitor cpu, network, etc... plasmoids. Off in La,La land somewhere... Then there is whatever konqueror has now become. I can use it, in fact I even like it, but it is so frustrating to work with you just want to scream. Simple crap like it remembering the size of the columns you have set, but it can't even get that right. I mean go adjust view properties add owner, group and permissions, then size the columns so you have a reasonable file name field width and a tidy width for the remaining columns so you have no horizontal scroll at the bottom. Then go settings -> configure konqueror, choose any setting and click "Apply", the columns automagically resize them selves every time. What is this some dime-store gui framework that can't do simple stuff like remember column sizes? That never happened in kde3. Then there is the complete lack of logical layout for any of the controls on a majority of the dialogs. Wasted space everywhere. Go right click the desktop, click activity settings to change the wallpaper and look at all the wasted space those three silly controls take up at the top of the wallpaper thumbnail list and that huge amount of space that monitor icon takes up on the right side. At the very least, those controls should be on the right-side under the little monitor icon that takes up a quarter of the dialog width so you could have the thumbnail list extend to the top of the dialog showing 2-3 more thumbnails with each scroll. Then there is the scrolling itself, kde4 can't even figure out how to scroll an even "page up/page down" (or list up/list down) without something getting stuck 1/2 in and 1/2 out of the viewing area or skipping 2-3 items altogether -- and we have been dealing with these same problems since June 4, 2008 with the "Official" release of 4.0.4! But, it is a damn good looking desktop :p I feel better now I just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel? I certainly thought that by the 4.4 release, all of this beta and .0 (dot zero) type stuff would be gone. At this rate, I could see many of the same frustrations being dealt with in 2012. And if it isn't fixed before the Mayan calendar runs out.. who knows :p Oh well, que sara flux, xfce, openbox, windowmaker, gnome, etc.. all still do a fine job and they do it without any scrolling problems -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
