Re: [arch-general] docs in Octave package?

2011-07-15 Thread Auguste Pop
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:09 PM, XeCycle  wrote:
> Auguste Pop  writes:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM, XeCycle  wrote:
>>> I need the documents of octave, but it's not in the current octave
>>> package, so I need to compile it manually after each update.  However
>>> the compilation is very time and power consuming, it can drive my CPU to
>>> 100 degrees --- which is not very fine for a laptop.
>>>
>> ./configure && make pdf && make install-pdf would be quite fast.
>
> I used to remove the "--disable-docs" in the ./configure parameters.

the PKGBUILD of octave does not contain anything like --disable-docs.
if the documentations are not installed by make install, it's an
UPSTREAM FEATURE.

>
>> as a matter of fact, most of the time you spent would be in the
>> configure stage.
>
> Not really...  At least it's not the case with octave.  It used to take
> more than one hour (on my Intel Core i5 430M); with "make -j4" it's
> faster, but the CPU temperature shows 100 degrees Celsius.
>

you are re-compiling the whole octave again with the docs, that's not
what i said. if you are only interested in adding docs, you can
package docs separately. if you want pdf docs, you can make pdf &&
make install-pdf, or html docs, make html && make install-html. both
would take less than a minute to complete.

>> have you tried to make an independent aur package for yourself?
>
> Does that make a difference?  Still I have to build it myself, and I'm
> asking if we can build a docs package in [extra].
>

putting a separate docs package in aur means you don't have to endure
the long, tedious, and meaningless re-compiling process, which you
complained about, every time the package got updated. what you get is
a slightly outdated documentation package, which you can easily update
automatically alongside the repo octave package, if you are willing
to. actually, even manually doing so would take you no more than five
minutes.

anyway, if you want a package to include a change you propose, the
best way is to show up with a working PKGBUILD.

best regards,


Re: [arch-general] docs in Octave package?

2011-07-15 Thread Allan McRae

On 16/07/11 14:09, XeCycle wrote:

Auguste Pop  writes:


On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM, XeCycle  wrote:

I need the documents of octave, but it's not in the current octave
package, so I need to compile it manually after each update.  However
the compilation is very time and power consuming, it can drive my CPU to
100 degrees --- which is not very fine for a laptop.


./configure&&  make pdf&&  make install-pdf would be quite fast.


I used to remove the "--disable-docs" in the ./configure parameters.


as a matter of fact, most of the time you spent would be in the
configure stage.


Not really...  At least it's not the case with octave.  It used to take
more than one hour (on my Intel Core i5 430M); with "make -j4" it's
faster, but the CPU temperature shows 100 degrees Celsius.


have you tried to make an independent aur package for yourself?


Does that make a difference?  Still I have to build it myself, and I'm
asking if we can build a docs package in [extra].




The point was that you probably do not actually have to build octave to 
build the docs.


Anyway, requests on the mailing lists will probably not get seen by the 
right person.  File a feature request on the bug tracker.


Allan




Re: [arch-general] docs in Octave package?

2011-07-15 Thread XeCycle
Auguste Pop  writes:

> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM, XeCycle  wrote:
>> I need the documents of octave, but it's not in the current octave
>> package, so I need to compile it manually after each update.  However
>> the compilation is very time and power consuming, it can drive my CPU to
>> 100 degrees --- which is not very fine for a laptop.
>>
> ./configure && make pdf && make install-pdf would be quite fast.

I used to remove the "--disable-docs" in the ./configure parameters.

> as a matter of fact, most of the time you spent would be in the
> configure stage.

Not really...  At least it's not the case with octave.  It used to take
more than one hour (on my Intel Core i5 430M); with "make -j4" it's
faster, but the CPU temperature shows 100 degrees Celsius.

> have you tried to make an independent aur package for yourself?

Does that make a difference?  Still I have to build it myself, and I'm
asking if we can build a docs package in [extra].

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Re: [arch-general] docs in Octave package?

2011-07-15 Thread XeCycle
Ionut Biru  writes:

> On 07/15/2011 05:36 PM, XeCycle wrote:
>> Hello, I read from the package database that Ronald van Haren maintains
>> the package "octave", but I cannot contact him, so I'm asking here.
>>
>> I need the documents of octave, but it's not in the current octave
>> package, so I need to compile it manually after each update.  However
>> the compilation is very time and power consuming, it can drive my CPU to
>> 100 degrees --- which is not very fine for a laptop.
>>
>> Could you please build a separate "octave-docs" package?
>>
>
> It will be nice if you post a patch to include this docs in the
> octave package or in a separate package.

How?  I'd like to build it in a separate package.

> Imo  if the docs use less than 50% from the size, then is fine to
> include it in the octave package.

It appears to me that the original package is 8 MB, and the modified is
15 MB.  Perhaps a bit large.

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] lvm2/device-mapper 2.02.86-1

2011-07-15 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Eric Bélanger  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> lvm2/device-mapper 2.02.86-1 are in testing for an upstream update.
> Please test and signoff. Signoff from users are welcomed.
>
> Eric
>

Bump. Anyone?


Re: [arch-general] anyone success with compilation of cyanogenmod7?

2011-07-15 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/7/15 Jelle van der Waa :
> On 07/16/2011 12:14 AM, dejfson wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> has anyone success to compile CM7 under Archlinux? I'm new to Arch, before
>> user of Gentoo, so I'm still in learning phase.
>>
>> In my case the issue seems to be missing perl's "Switch.pm" module.
>> Looking
>> for arch package on the web was of no success.
>>
>> Any help appreciated
>>
>> d.
>
> [jelle@P8][~/Downloads]%pkgfile Switch.pm
> core/perl
>

Right you're talking about CGI::Switch not Switch, I think CM7 try to
find Switch




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Re: [arch-general] anyone success with compilation of cyanogenmod7?

2011-07-15 Thread Jelle van der Waa

On 07/16/2011 12:14 AM, dejfson wrote:

Hi All,

has anyone success to compile CM7 under Archlinux? I'm new to Arch, before
user of Gentoo, so I'm still in learning phase.

In my case the issue seems to be missing perl's "Switch.pm" module. Looking
for arch package on the web was of no success.

Any help appreciated

d.


[jelle@P8][~/Downloads]%pkgfile Switch.pm
core/perl

Perl should be installedon your system, but CM7 probably fails to find it..

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Re: [arch-general] anyone success with compilation of cyanogenmod7?

2011-07-15 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/7/15 dejfson :
> Hi All,
>
> has anyone success to compile CM7 under Archlinux? I'm new to Arch, before
> user of Gentoo, so I'm still in learning phase.
>
> In my case the issue seems to be missing perl's "Switch.pm" module. Looking
> for arch package on the web was of no success.
>
> Any help appreciated
>
> d.
>

Switch is deprecated from 5.10.1 and removed on 5.14.0 perl release.
Would you mind to paste the error to suggest a parch for CM7 devs?




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[arch-general] anyone success with compilation of cyanogenmod7?

2011-07-15 Thread dejfson
Hi All,

has anyone success to compile CM7 under Archlinux? I'm new to Arch, before
user of Gentoo, so I'm still in learning phase.

In my case the issue seems to be missing perl's "Switch.pm" module. Looking
for arch package on the web was of no success.

Any help appreciated

d.


Re: [arch-general] docs in Octave package?

2011-07-15 Thread Auguste Pop
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM, XeCycle  wrote:
> I need the documents of octave, but it's not in the current octave
> package, so I need to compile it manually after each update.  However
> the compilation is very time and power consuming, it can drive my CPU to
> 100 degrees --- which is not very fine for a laptop.
>
./configure && make pdf && make install-pdf would be quite fast.
as a matter of fact, most of the time you spent would be in the configure stage.
have you tried to make an independent aur package for yourself?


Re: [arch-general] docs in Octave package?

2011-07-15 Thread Ionut Biru

On 07/15/2011 05:36 PM, XeCycle wrote:

Hello, I read from the package database that Ronald van Haren maintains
the package "octave", but I cannot contact him, so I'm asking here.

I need the documents of octave, but it's not in the current octave
package, so I need to compile it manually after each update.  However
the compilation is very time and power consuming, it can drive my CPU to
100 degrees --- which is not very fine for a laptop.

Could you please build a separate "octave-docs" package?



It will be nice if you post a patch to include this docs in the octave 
package or in a separate package.


Imo  if the docs use less than 50% from the size, then is fine to 
include it in the octave package.


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[arch-general] docs in Octave package?

2011-07-15 Thread XeCycle
Hello, I read from the package database that Ronald van Haren maintains
the package "octave", but I cannot contact him, so I'm asking here.

I need the documents of octave, but it's not in the current octave
package, so I need to compile it manually after each update.  However
the compilation is very time and power consuming, it can drive my CPU to
100 degrees --- which is not very fine for a laptop.

Could you please build a separate "octave-docs" package?

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Re: [arch-general] The OpenCL ICD problem

2011-07-15 Thread Ionut Biru

On 07/08/2011 09:49 PM, Vojtěch Král wrote:

So, what is going on? Don't you guys quit on me...

@Nicolas:
   You pointed out that the nVidia ICD loader (libOpenCL.so) is only
1.0 (outdated),
that is correct, but the ICD specs only require 1.0, so 1.1 possibly
should not be needed.
See specs: http://www.khronos.org/registry/cl/extensions/khr/cl_khr_icd.txt
Although this would require testing. I'll do it later if possible...

~kralyk


i've been waiting a new nvidia version and now is time to push something 
into extra.


in the end, is it settled that the name of the package for loader should 
 be _libcl_ and the implementation _opencl-nvidia_ ?


--
Ionuț


Re: [arch-general] OK so HARDWARECLOCK="localtime" is "strongly discouraged" BUT???

2011-07-15 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
even though I have switch to HARDWARECLOCK="UTC",
rtkit-daemon line date time in logs are still wrong. in UTC ??
what's the matter with it ?



Re: [arch-general] OK so HARDWARECLOCK="localtime" is "strongly discouraged" BUT???

2011-07-15 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
Le mardi 12 juillet 2011 à 20:41 +0200, Tom Gundersen a écrit :

> No, we adjust the time as soon as possible to minimize the problems (though 
> we are not able to eliminate the gap when the time is wrong, so we simply 
> don't know what might go wrong, the more init is optimized, the more likely 
> we are to run across problems with this).
> 
I just check my /var/log/messages.log to see if there date time changing
all of the sudden, especially because I use
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime" ( UTC+2 here)

And I found something very strange
The kernel boot in "local time": at least the log
in /vaR/log/messages.log are in local time as soon there is some log
about the kernel boot up 
Jul 15 10:26:35 soho kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys
cpuset

all the other are also in localtime

BUT
all line about rtkit-daemon are in UTC ! that's what I found strange
even hours after the boot, rtkit-daemon line in mesageS.log still use
UTC instead of local time ! how is this possible ?

look at it
Jul 15 13:15:34 soho kernel: [10164.898981] gnome-settings-[16527]:
segfault at b5484160 ip b5484160 sp bf88261c error 4 in
libdbus-1.so.3.5.7[b54b8000+47000]
Jul 15 11:15:40 soho rtkit-daemon[1331]: Successfully made thread 29613
of process 29613 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '120' high priority at
nice level -11.
Jul 15 11:15:41 soho rtkit-daemon[1331]: Successfully made thread 29614
of process 29613 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '120' RT at priority 5.
Jul 15 11:15:41 soho rtkit-daemon[1331]: Successfully made thread 29615
of process 29613 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned by '120' RT at priority 5.
Jul 15 13:15:41 soho gdm-simple-greeter[29620]: Gtk-WARNING:
gtkwidget.c:6794: widget not within a GtkWindow
Jul 15 13:15:41 soho gdm-simple-greeter[29620]: WARNING: Unable to read
from file /etc/arch-release
Jul 15 13:15:41 soho gdm-simple-greeter[29620]: Gtk-WARNING:
gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -47
and height -47
Jul 15 11:15:47 soho rtkit-daemon[1331]: Successfully made thread 29686
of process 29686 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) owned 

I think I am gonna swtich to UTC for HARDWARECLOCK