Re: [arch-general] OT: DNS server help

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 20:58 -0400, Kyle wrote:
 I don't really have the time to scroll down one line at a time, and
 most other people don't really have the time to scroll down 5 lines at
 a time wading through tons upon tons of wrotes, original messages,
 times and dates, angle brackets and messages we have already read as
 many as 10 times or more to get to the likely helpful answer all the
 way at the bottom of all that quoting.

Regarding to this topic I guess writing off-list is the better choice,
OTOH the OT in the subject enables to distinguish the original thread
with this OT.

However ...
Subject: [off-list][arch-general] OT: DNS server help
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:45:26 +0200

I don't care that much about top and bottom posting, but most people on
mailing lists for good reasons do.

The style becomes an issue, if some people post on top and others post
at the bottom. We already are using mail clients with different styles
for the quotation and line break.
... is what I've written off-list.

Now to the list, because there are exceptions.

Kyle, when I know that I write to somebody using braille I don't format
my email in a way, that can't be displayed in braille, e.g.

I wrte a text with a typo.
    wrote

If I know somebody has an issue with his computer and she/he only can
use her/his wristwatch, I would bear this in mind too, when replying.

IMO you're mistaken. People usually don't post a complete message, most
of the times we [snip] a lot of text, especially signatures and mailing
list legends.

When I write a personal letter I prefer not to quote, but to write in a
way, that quotation isn't needed. For a reply on a mailing list it's
less time consuming to quote by cuttings and reply below it. In forums
this seldom is useful, there people most of the times quote because of
self-importance, to ensure the poster they reply to, doesn't edit the
original post, one of many good reason to prefer mailing lists instead.

I hope those posting discussions will stop one day and we only will
point out to stop it, without discussing it again, if top posting really
becomes annoying.

I like to encourage people not to use their Android, iThingy, MS web
thingy or wristwatch when writing to Linux home computer mailing lists,
as long as those things cause issues and the topic shouldn't be urgent.
If a MUA force you to CC, the way you need to post etc., I wonder why
people use such bad software. Seems to be the first step before the MUAs
include chatbods that force the contend of the emails body.

2 Cents,
Ralf



Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-13 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:04 AM, David Benfell
benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote:
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 On 06/12/12 01:40, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

 The site: trick [1] has worked for me quite well for long time:

 T400 site:http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/;

 site: I knew about and is good if you know which site will have the
 answer you're looking for. I don't always.

Mateusz's suggestion of 'site' was the answer to 'you can't easily
search the ML' issue.


 But what is 'T400'?

The search phrase.
It seems it's a type of Lenovo laptop.


Re: [arch-general] Virtualbox USB issues after upgrade

2012-06-13 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm running XP SP2 on Vbox, to handle an iPad2 by iTunes via USB cable.

 I already had issues in the past, but after an Arch update today sync,
 recovery, any similar operation doesn't work anymore, regarding to USB
 issues.
 I didn't update Arch and sync an iPad by Vbox/iTunes for a long time.

 Apple about iTunes and issues: OS virtualization or emulation software
 may cause restore errors. Error 1604 This error is often related to
 USB timing.

 [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ uname -a
 Linux archlinux 3.3.8-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 5 15:20:32 CEST 2012
 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi virtualbox
 Name           : virtualbox
 Version        : 4.1.16-1

 In the past I sometimes had to reconnect the iPad to Vbox, by Vbox's
 Devices  USB devices. Now there always is a connection, but I get USB
 timing errors.

You can try to rmmod ipheth before plug your iphone/ipad to vbox.

And also try to add vbox-ext-oracle (aur) to have better usb support.

Cordialement,
-- 
Sébastien Seblu Luttringer
www.seblu.net


Re: [arch-general] OT: DNS server help

2012-06-13 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 I like to encourage people not to use their Android, iThingy, MS web
 thingy or wristwatch when writing to Linux home computer mailing lists,
 as long as those things cause issues and the topic shouldn't be urgent.
 If a MUA force you to CC, the way you need to post etc., I wonder why
 people use such bad software. Seems to be the first step before the MUAs
 include chatbods that force the contend of the emails body.

 2 Cents,
 Ralf

I use Android and gmail myself, and none of the Android clients
'force' you to post in a particular way. In the stock Gmail client you
can edit inline with one button press which is why I've never
understood the protestations of those who say they're 'forced' to do
something by their provider/software. Unless, of course, being too
lazy to delete some lines by holding the backspace key counts as being
'forced'.


Re: [arch-general] Virtualbox USB issues after upgrade

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 10:07 +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:
 You can try to rmmod ipheth before plug your iphone/ipad to vbox.
 
 And also try to add vbox-ext-oracle (aur) to have better usb support.

Thank you. I'll report what happened ASAP, perhaps today. - Ralf





Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade

2012-06-13 Thread Arno Gaboury

On 06/12/2012 10:19 PM, Kacper Żuk wrote:

W dniu 12.06.2012 21:59, Arno Gaboury pisze:

After some reading across the forum, I see I am not the only one with
this issue. my /usr and /boot are both on a separate partition from /.
It seems this cause the issue.
As far as I can understand, the solution seems to add the Hook back and
rebuilt the image.

Is this correct??

How can I do that? Form a live cd? Or can I do anything from Ubuntu?


If that's the issue, you can mount your root partition in Ubuntu, 
chroot to it (read Change Root article on archwiki), edit  and run .
As I have /usr on a separate partition, following your instructions 
solved my issue (the filesystem was not mounted at boot).
With a live CD, I edited /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and added usr shutdown to 
the HOOKS line, then chroot, following the wiki, and run mkinitcpio -p 
linux.


Now I can login my box :-)

Maybe this workaround could be added to the Archlinux home page news : 
systemd-tools, as it could avoid this issue to all users with a separate 
/usr ?


Re: [arch-general] can not login after upgrade

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:12:23 +0300
Tasos Latsas wrote:

  Maybe this workaround could be added to the Archlinux home page news :
  systemd-tools, as it could avoid this issue to all users with a separate
  /usr ?  
 
 This is documented here [1] and I don't think it was introduced in the
 recent systemd-tools update but rather this was the case for some time
 now [2]. If I'm not mistaken support for a separate /usr was enabled
 around January in mkinitcpio

Forgive me if this has been asked countless times and I'm guessing it's
just a matter of someone picking up the code.

Is there a reason other than coding it why there isn't a run sdiff
on .pacnew pacman option flag which could then be followed
automatically with mkinitcpio?


Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-13 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 12 June 2012 23:04, David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote:
 On 06/12/12 01:40, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

 The site: trick [1] has worked for me quite well for long time:

 T400 site:http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/;

 Jeremiah's pointed on two front-ends to the same data,  best option
 I know too. It is not ideal in though, so it is not a problem to
 setup ML mirror on Gmane. Similarly, Nabble works fairly well as a
 Forum frontend to ML. [2]

 site: I knew about and is good if you know which site will have the
 answer you're looking for. I don't always.

Yes, this is true.
In case of ML, it may be also related to some configuration of mailman.
I found that the Google's site: trick does work pretty well with
for example OSGeo Foundation mailing lists that I use extensively,
e.g.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jpeg+format+site%3Alists.osgeo.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgdal-dev%2F

 Sometimes, I'll find
 answers on the Ubuntu forums, for example, though I imagine this will
 be less true in the future as Ubuntu seems to be going down the toilet
 as a distribution.

:-)

 But what is 'T400'?

Model of Lenovo ThinkPad T400 which I use.

I used as example a needle being searched - as I've scanned
the MLs for T400 infos lately :)

Best regards,
-- 
Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net


Re: [arch-general] VPS can't access after update filesystem?

2012-06-13 Thread Bill Sun
I got the error message:

ERROR: device '/dev/xvda1' not found. Skipping fsck.
ERROR: Unable to find root device '/dev/xvda1'.
You are being dropped to a recovery shell
Type 'exit' to try and continue booting
sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

Regards


Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 13:16 +0100, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
 On 12 June 2012 23:04, David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote:
  On 06/12/12 01:40, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
 
  The site: trick [1] has worked for me quite well for long time:
 
  T400 site:http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/;
 
  Jeremiah's pointed on two front-ends to the same data,  best option
  I know too. It is not ideal in though, so it is not a problem to
  setup ML mirror on Gmane. Similarly, Nabble works fairly well as a
  Forum frontend to ML. [2]
 
  site: I knew about and is good if you know which site will have the
  answer you're looking for. I don't always.
 
 Yes, this is true.
 In case of ML, it may be also related to some configuration of mailman.
 I found that the Google's site: trick does work pretty well with
 for example OSGeo Foundation mailing lists that I use extensively,
 e.g.
 https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jpeg+format+site%3Alists.osgeo.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgdal-dev%2F
 
  Sometimes, I'll find
  answers on the Ubuntu forums, for example, though I imagine this will
  be less true in the future as Ubuntu seems to be going down the toilet
  as a distribution.
 
 :-)
 
  But what is 'T400'?
 
 Model of Lenovo ThinkPad T400 which I use.
 
 I used as example a needle being searched - as I've scanned
 the MLs for T400 infos lately :)
 
 Best regards,

I collected mailing list mails with Mozilla mailers and their search
options where very helpful. Today I'm using Evolution (the mails are
also on my machine) and it's less good, but anyway better than searching
Archives by Google and other search engines.
Searching Archives is a PITA, but once you access the emails with a MUA,
it's very comfortable. Btw. usually Arch and Ubuntu Wikis are the best
sources for search engines. YMMV! - Ralf



[arch-general] haskell updated on arch

2012-06-13 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
Ghc 7.4.2 was just moved to [extra].
There should be no problems since it was only a minor bump.

haskell-binary was moved to the aur since ghc already provides it.

Release notes:
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/7.4.2/html/users_guide/release-7-4-2.html

Happy hacking!


Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/13 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk

 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:42:01 -0700
 pants wrote:

  check the SMART status of the drives,

 I've recently found Pmagic livecd to be very cool for this. Simply
 click the disk health icon on the desktop.


Folks I've messed things even more  I did a kernel downgrade, downloaded
kernel 3.3.7 from arch time machine and did pacman -U
kernel26-2.6.39.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
System rebuilt modules and so on. After reboot it seems to report my /boot
is not a valid partition type with ext2fs. Still grub which is installed
there works and I can boot my windows.
My plan now is download a live cd do a chroot to my old arch and try to
update the kernel for the old state is it manageable?


Re: [arch-general] shutdown problems

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 14:19 +0100, Bjørn Øivind Bjørnsen wrote:
 Likewise, but since shutdown works from KDM, this has not bothered me
 enough to debug it quite yet.

You aren't confusing two different issues?
When I upgraded Xfce I lost the options to restart and to shut down for
the panel item. I still could log out by the panel item and than shut
down from GDM or what ever I'm using at the moment. However, I only had
to edit the panel item's preferences and got back the options to restart
and shut down. It was always possible to shut down by command line.
I'm not booted to my Arch, IIRC I didn't switch to systemd.
It's possible to be stricken by fleas and cooties at the same time,
however, there are less and more serious shutdown problems at the
moment.

- Ralf



Re: [arch-general] shutdown problems

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 16:05 +0200, I wrote:
 You aren't confusing two different issues?

Sorry, I should have read the other replies first, instead of replying
myself. - Ralf



Re: [arch-general] shutdown problems

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf

 On Thu, 2012-02-16 at [...]

Aaaargh, sorry, seldom, but sometimes Evolution doesn't sort mails by
date as wanted or also seldom, I sort mails by thread and forget to
switch back to date, anyway, my mistake.



[arch-general] time to drop openjdk6 ?

2012-06-13 Thread Andreas Radke
Oracle has declared JRE/JDK7 the preferred one over JRE/JDK6. So it
should be now stable enough to replace Java6 for everyone also in the
OpenJDK community releases.

I'm asking if there's somebody still in the need to use openjdk6 for
certain apps that fail to run with openjdk7? If so please report it
upstream.

I know there's are still some commercial java apps that will only run
on the Oracle JRE6 or JRE7 but I ask only if somebody prefers openjdk6
in our repos over java7-openjdk.

I'd like to drop openjdk6 when the next security update will be
released if possible.

-Andy


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Re: [arch-general] DNS server help

2012-06-13 Thread Squall Lionheart
 thank you!
 does it take ages to read?


It's a big book but you only need chapter 4 and 5 to get setup.  It's
worth checking out.

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Tomorrow is a mystery.
Today is a gift.
That's why its called the present.

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Re: [arch-general] DNS server help

2012-06-13 Thread Dimitris Zervas

thank you!
i will check it out for sure
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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] time to drop openjdk6 ?

2012-06-13 Thread Sergej Pupykin
On 13.06.2012 21:32, Andreas Radke wrote:
 Oracle has declared JRE/JDK7 the preferred one over JRE/JDK6. So it

At least one of my packages can be built only with openjdk6. I did not
research why.



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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] time to drop openjdk6 ?

2012-06-13 Thread Ray Kohler
On 13.06.2012 21:32, Andreas Radke wrote:
 Oracle has declared JRE/JDK7 the preferred one over JRE/JDK6. So it

Upstream only yesterday fixed a bug which affects me
(http://icedtea.classpath.org//hg/icedtea-web?cmd=changeset;node=40776f2e940f).
So I'd be grateful if you would wait until that commit comes down to
our icedtea-web-java7 package before dropping icedtea-web.


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] time to drop openjdk6 ?

2012-06-13 Thread Chris Sakalis
Hello,
not a very important application, and there may be some workarounds,
but with openjdk7 Minecraft [1] fails to load the correct bundled
libraries on 64bit. From the exception, it appears that it actually
tries to load the 32bit libs, but it fails. Again, this is only for
the bundled lwjgl libraries. Just a small point for keeping openjdk6,
for the moment.

--Chris Sakalis

[1] - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39434


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Ray Kohler ataraxia...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13.06.2012 21:32, Andreas Radke wrote:
 Oracle has declared JRE/JDK7 the preferred one over JRE/JDK6. So it

 Upstream only yesterday fixed a bug which affects me
 (http://icedtea.classpath.org//hg/icedtea-web?cmd=changeset;node=40776f2e940f).
 So I'd be grateful if you would wait until that commit comes down to
 our icedtea-web-java7 package before dropping icedtea-web.


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] time to drop openjdk6 ?

2012-06-13 Thread Leonidas Spyropoulos
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Chris Sakalis chrissaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 not a very important application, and there may be some workarounds,
 but with openjdk7 Minecraft [1] fails to load the correct bundled
 libraries on 64bit. From the exception, it appears that it actually
 tries to load the 32bit libs, but it fails. Again, this is only for
 the bundled lwjgl libraries. Just a small point for keeping openjdk6,
 for the moment.

 --Chris Sakalis

 [1] - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39434


 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Ray Kohler ataraxia...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13.06.2012 21:32, Andreas Radke wrote:
 Oracle has declared JRE/JDK7 the preferred one over JRE/JDK6. So it

 Upstream only yesterday fixed a bug which affects me
 (http://icedtea.classpath.org//hg/icedtea-web?cmd=changeset;node=40776f2e940f).
 So I'd be grateful if you would wait until that commit comes down to
 our icedtea-web-java7 package before dropping icedtea-web.


I think we should move forward to 7. Oracle already announced that
they are moving so the the application must follow. You can always
keep a JRE 6 and JDK 6 locally as optional somewhere else (/opt) or
even at your home folder for your development and for applications and
make alias for them or even load them in your local .profile.

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[arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread angelinheavysyrup ‎

Hello,

Shortly after I last upgraded the alsa-firmware package, I realized that
my system could not produce sound anymore.
I certainly don't know if this has something to do with the certain
upgrade or if it's related to something else that I can't think of at the
moment.

Is there anything I can do about this?


Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Jesse Jaara
My creative sound card stopped working recently. Only 5.1 audio mode would
work. My regular 7.1 was missing front and bass channels and 2.0 mode would
not play any sound at all.


Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 23:09 +0300, angelinheavysyrup ‎ wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Shortly after I last upgraded the alsa-firmware package, I realized that
 my system could not produce sound anymore.
 I certainly don't know if this has something to do with the certain
 upgrade or if it's related to something else that I can't think of at the
 moment.
 
 Is there anything I can do about this?

First of all you could give information about your hardware and the
version of ALSA that was ok and that is borked.



Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread angelinheavysyrup ‎

First of all you could give information about your hardware and the
version of ALSA that was ok and that is borked.


I'm using ASUS p5kpl-am epu, no additional soundcards.
This happened after I upgraded alsa-firmware to version 1.0.25-2 (from  
1.0.25-1).




Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Wolfgang Mueller
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 00:09:15 +0300, angelinheavysyrup wrote:
 This happened after I upgraded alsa-firmware to version 1.0.25-2
 (from 1.0.25-1).
Did you try downgrading in order to confirm this being an issue with
alsa-firmware? Was there anything else that got upgraded along with it?

As for troubleshooting, you can check 'lsmod | grep ^snd' to see if the
sound modules are loaded. Also, 'cat /proc/asound/cards' shows which
soundcards were detected.

Are there any errors or warnings by alsa when playing a track with
mplayer or another CLI audio player?


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Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 23:22 +0200, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 00:09:15 +0300, angelinheavysyrup wrote:
  This happened after I upgraded alsa-firmware to version 1.0.25-2
  (from 1.0.25-1).
 Did you try downgrading in order to confirm this being an issue with
 alsa-firmware? Was there anything else that got upgraded along with it?

Two very good questions! When ever possible I'm using Linux as my DAW,
most times when the DAW is borked, the cause isn't something related to
ALSA versions. For example I once upgraded a Debian using GNOME 2
without pulseaudio, it didn't upgrade to a newer version of GNOME 2, but
to GNOME 3 and forced to install pulseaudio. Pro-audio cards don't work
when PA is activated. This is just a relatively unalarming example,
since it's possible to get rid of PA, but there are very grotesque
possibilities for what could happen.

Dunno what's the different between 1.0.25-1 and 1.0.25-2, but it seems
to be possible, that something else is the show-stopper, but ALSA
firmware.

- Ralf



Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
On Thursday 14 Jun 2012 00:09:15 angelinheavysyrup ‎ wrote:
 I'm using ASUS p5kpl-am epu, no additional soundcards.
 This happened after I upgraded alsa-firmware to version 1.0.25-2 (from
 1.0.25-1).

For time being, you can downgrade the package. 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Downgrading_Packages

-- 
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[1] http://arm.konnichi.com/extra/os/x86_64/alsa-firmware-1.0.25-1-
x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
[2]http://arm.konnichi.com/extra/os/i686/alsa-firmware-1.0.25-1-
i686.pkg.tar.xz


Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:09:09 +0300
schrieb angelinheavysyrup ‎ angelinvert...@hotmail.com:

 Is there anything I can do about this?

Do you get any messages from ALSA during boot? Have you tried to reset
your ALSA settings in alsamixer?

Sometimes it happens that ALSA changes some channel names or the like,
which can be easily fixed by running alsamixer, and check and save the
settings again. Sometimes it's just a matter of time (usually a few
days) until it gets fixed automatically with the next kernel and/or ALSA
update.

And as Ralf mentioned, if you use PulseAudio, have you tried to disable
it?

Heiko


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] time to drop openjdk6 ?

2012-06-13 Thread Armando M. Baratti

On 13-06-2012 18:43, Guillaume ALAUX wrote:

On 13 June 2012 22:02, Leonidas Spyropoulos artafi...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Chris Sakalis chrissaka...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,
not a very important application, and there may be some workarounds,
but with openjdk7 Minecraft [1] fails to load the correct bundled
libraries on 64bit. From the exception, it appears that it actually
tries to load the 32bit libs, but it fails. Again, this is only for
the bundled lwjgl libraries. Just a small point for keeping openjdk6,
for the moment.

--Chris Sakalis

[1] - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39434


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Ray Kohler ataraxia...@gmail.com wrote:

On 13.06.2012 21:32, Andreas Radke wrote:

Oracle has declared JRE/JDK7 the preferred one over JRE/JDK6. So it

Upstream only yesterday fixed a bug which affects me
(http://icedtea.classpath.org//hg/icedtea-web?cmd=changeset;node=40776f2e940f).
So I'd be grateful if you would wait until that commit comes down to
our icedtea-web-java7 package before dropping icedtea-web.


I think we should move forward to 7. Oracle already announced that
they are moving so the the application must follow. You can always
keep a JRE 6 and JDK 6 locally as optional somewhere else (/opt) or
even at your home folder for your development and for applications and
make alias for them or even load them in your local .profile.

--
Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health.

#include stdio.h
int main(){printf(%s,\x4c\x65\x6f\x6e\x69\x64\x61\x73);}

Hello,

Unfortunately tomcat7 won't compile with OpenJDK7. I will have a look
at this (after my holidays next week). This one should be the only of
mine to still require java-environment=6.

--
Guillaume


Hi,

Many internet banking applications here in Brazil need JDK6.
I'll check if this is still valid for my bank (that's a very popular 
one), but others may cease to work.



Armando



Re: [arch-general] No sound (anymore)

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 23:55 +0200, Heiko Baums wrote:
 Have you tried to reset your ALSA settings in alsamixer?

Good point! I forget this, since I always need to load a mixer for my
sound card, before I'm able to get sound. Fortunately the RME mixer I'm
using has got a configuration file in /home/user that isn't touched by
upgrades.

- Ralf



Re: [arch-general] VPS can't access after update filesystem?

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Arthur
On 06/13/2012 06:04 AM, Bill Sun wrote:
 I got the error message:
 
 ERROR: device '/dev/xvda1' not found. Skipping fsck.
 ERROR: Unable to find root device '/dev/xvda1'.
 You are being dropped to a recovery shell
 Type 'exit' to try and continue booting
 sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
 
 Regards
 

Looks like your initramfs got borked when you updated the kernel.  Make
sure to read the recent news article [1] about systemd-tools replacing
udev (and maybe the last question in the troubleshooting section of the
pacman wiki page [2]), and be sure to run this after updating (but
before rebooting):

# mkinitcpio -p linux

[1] http://www.archlinux.org/news/systemd-tools-replaces-udev/
[2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Troubleshooting

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Kevin Arthur



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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] time to drop openjdk6 ?

2012-06-13 Thread Armando M. Baratti

On 13-06-2012 19:08, Armando M. Baratti wrote:

On 13-06-2012 18:43, Guillaume ALAUX wrote:

On 13 June 2012 22:02, Leonidas Spyropoulos artafi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Chris Sakalis 
chrissaka...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,
not a very important application, and there may be some workarounds,
but with openjdk7 Minecraft [1] fails to load the correct bundled
libraries on 64bit. From the exception, it appears that it actually
tries to load the 32bit libs, but it fails. Again, this is only for
the bundled lwjgl libraries. Just a small point for keeping openjdk6,
for the moment.

--Chris Sakalis

[1] - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39434


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Ray Kohler ataraxia...@gmail.com 
wrote:

On 13.06.2012 21:32, Andreas Radke wrote:

Oracle has declared JRE/JDK7 the preferred one over JRE/JDK6. So it

Upstream only yesterday fixed a bug which affects me
(http://icedtea.classpath.org//hg/icedtea-web?cmd=changeset;node=40776f2e940f). 


So I'd be grateful if you would wait until that commit comes down to
our icedtea-web-java7 package before dropping icedtea-web.


I think we should move forward to 7. Oracle already announced that
they are moving so the the application must follow. You can always
keep a JRE 6 and JDK 6 locally as optional somewhere else (/opt) or
even at your home folder for your development and for applications and
make alias for them or even load them in your local .profile.

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Hello,

Unfortunately tomcat7 won't compile with OpenJDK7. I will have a look
at this (after my holidays next week). This one should be the only of
mine to still require java-environment=6.

--
Guillaume


Hi,

Many internet banking applications here in Brazil need JDK6.
I'll check if this is still valid for my bank (that's a very popular 
one), but others may cease to work.



Armando


Hum ...

It seems the RD people at my bank have updated the internet banking 
application and now it works with SDK7.
Anyway I don't know about other applications like this, here in Brazil 
and elsewhere...


Armando



Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Victor Silva
Oki I reverted to the old kernel and I'm back to the old scenario how can I
properly downgrade a kernel?

Regards and thx for the help so far guys. This community rocks.
2012/6/13 Victor Silva vfbsi...@gmail.com



 2012/6/13 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk

 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:42:01 -0700
 pants wrote:

  check the SMART status of the drives,

 I've recently found Pmagic livecd to be very cool for this. Simply
 click the disk health icon on the desktop.


 Folks I've messed things even more  I did a kernel downgrade, downloaded
 kernel 3.3.7 from arch time machine and did pacman -U
 kernel26-2.6.39.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
 System rebuilt modules and so on. After reboot it seems to report my /boot
 is not a valid partition type with ext2fs. Still grub which is installed
 there works and I can boot my windows.
 My plan now is download a live cd do a chroot to my old arch and try to
 update the kernel for the old state is it manageable?





Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread gt
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:14:06PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote:
 Oki I reverted to the old kernel and I'm back to the old scenario how can I
 properly downgrade a kernel?
 
 Regards and thx for the help so far guys. This community rocks.

Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don't further
need to downgrade it, as you have already downgraded it.

(Assuming, you did a pacman -U old-kernel)


Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Victor Silva
2012/6/14 gt static.vor...@gmx.com

 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:14:06PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote:
  Oki I reverted to the old kernel and I'm back to the old scenario how
 can I
  properly downgrade a kernel?
 
  Regards and thx for the help so far guys. This community rocks.

 Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don't further
 need to downgrade it, as you have already downgraded it.

 (Assuming, you did a pacman -U old-kernel)

I did it for the kenel which hangs, the one before it does not boot as
described on the previous posts. So somehow I need to find the last working
configuration. Also is shutdown -F a dangerous practice? Cause this works
for me.


Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

2012-06-13 Thread Martin Cigorraga
[OT]

@Victor: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Arch? What a combination!

[/OT]