Re: [arch-general] New install second drive issue

2019-09-16 Thread pete via arch-general
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 19:11:48 +0200
Guus Snijders via arch-general  wrote:

> Op ma 16 sep. 2019 10:45 schreef pete via arch-general <
> arch-general@archlinux.org>:
> 
> > Morning folks
> >
> > I have just done a complete new install on a new drive , That is all
> > working now fine .
> >
> > My problem comes when trying to include another drive on the system
> > , it just refuses to boot fully , I get a message unable to mount
> > sda2 now sda2 mounts  ,
> > /dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota)
> >  
> 
> Hmm, sda2 should be on disk1, but xfs uses UUID's also (I think).
> Could it be an UUID conflict?
> 
> Can you attach that 2nd drive another way, like in an USB enclosure
> or even another PC?
> 
> 
> Mvg, Guus

Hi Folks 

Well just to fill in a few bit  ..

I use syslinux to boot the machine no Windows  no UEFI the system is
too old for that .

BUT any how i have solved the problem and its the one i did not want to
find  3 of the 4 sata ports on the mother board are shot 1 works fine
port 4 port 3 throws up errors ports 2 and 1 just cause the boot
problem so i will be need to replace the mother board  shame because
the CPU is fin AMD Phenom II quad core so need a replacement board to
suit .

Thanks for all the help anyways  folks 


Pete .
now not an appy bunny 
 ho humm


Re: [arch-general] New install second drive issue

2019-09-16 Thread Guus Snijders via arch-general
Op ma 16 sep. 2019 10:45 schreef pete via arch-general <
arch-general@archlinux.org>:

> Morning folks
>
> I have just done a complete new install on a new drive , That is all
> working now fine .
>
> My problem comes when trying to include another drive on the system ,
> it just refuses to boot fully , I get a message unable to mount sda2
> now sda2 mounts  ,
> /dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota)
>

Hmm, sda2 should be on disk1, but xfs uses UUID's also (I think). Could it
be an UUID conflict?

Can you attach that 2nd drive another way, like in an USB enclosure or even
another PC?


Mvg, Guus


Re: [arch-general] New install second drive issue

2019-09-16 Thread Genes Lists via arch-general
What tool is being used to boot (grub, refind, etc)?

Should we assume this is UEFI? And if so, what are UEFI Bios settings
possibly relevant (like a boot manager setting for example which "can"
choose disks oher than your preference).


Re: [arch-general] New install second drive issue

2019-09-16 Thread lee
On Monday, 16 September 2019 12:55:29 CEST pete via arch-general wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:18:59 +0200
> 
> Khorne via arch-general  wrote:
> > On September 16, 2019 10:45:18 AM GMT+02:00, pete via arch-general
> > 
> >  wrote:
> > >Morning folks
> > >
> > >I have just done a complete new install on a new drive , That is all
> > >working now fine .
> > >
> > >My problem comes when trying to include another drive on the system ,
> > >it just refuses to boot fully , I get a message unable to mount sda2
> [...]
> hi  Fstab ..
> 
> # /dev/sda2
> UUID=318fa89a-22b9-4bdd-92a1-1e9b3f070cb3   /   xfs
> rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota   0 1
> 
> # /dev/sda1
> UUID=78aca2f9-6dbd-4e21-9f4d-dae59b8c1a4f   /boot   ext2
> rw,relatime 0 2
> 
> # /dev/sda4
> UUID=b17ea3f0-c632-46b1-9c78-4f1aeb8773c7   /home   xfs
> rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota   0 2
> 
> # /dev/sda3
> UUID=a755fa7c-93ff-4ccb-bcd6-47560bd54cee   noneswap
> defaults0 0

Perhaps there is an entry, or a missing entry, in grubs configuration file.  
Have you tried to use /dev/sda2 instead of the UUID in /etc/fstab?

Do you know if the other drive does work?  I have seen an SSD that had failed 
and when installed into another machine to see just if it might work, the 
computer wouldn't boot at all.


Re: [arch-general] New install second drive issue

2019-09-16 Thread Pete Nikolic via arch-general
Hi Ralph .

No this was a total clean install  the uuids were  what was automatically
generated  . I cant make heads or tails of it right now . Last time i had
anything like this was way back in the days of MFM and RLL drives  .

Pete

On Mon, 16 Sep 2019, 11:55 pete,  wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:18:59 +0200
> Khorne via arch-general  wrote:
>
> > On September 16, 2019 10:45:18 AM GMT+02:00, pete via arch-general
> >  wrote:
> > >Morning folks
> > >
> > >I have just done a complete new install on a new drive , That is all
> > >working now fine .
> > >
> > >My problem comes when trying to include another drive on the system ,
> > >it just refuses to boot fully , I get a message unable to mount sda2
> > >now sda2 mounts  ,
> > >/dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota)
> > >
> > >when just the one drive is in the system  but as soon as i connect it
> > >refuses to to boot fully and drops out to an emergency shell that is
> > >locked up solid i.
> > >
> > >I have set the working drive in the bios this is an older motherboard
> > >with an AMD Phenome quad core CPU .
> > >
> > > $ lsblk
> > >NAME   MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
> > >sda  8:00  1.8T  0 disk
> > >├─sda1   8:10  300M  0 part /boot
> > >├─sda2   8:20   40G  0 part /
> > >├─sda3   8:304G  0 part [SWAP]
> > >└─sda4   8:40  1.8T  0 part /home
> > >sr0 11:01 1024M  0 rom
> > >
> > >the drive order in the bios is set correctly not that it makes much
> > >difference these days  .
> > >
> > >I am stuck right now i need to be able to include the old drive to
> > >recover data from it  .
> > >
> > >Any ideas  folks ..
> > >
> > >Pete .
> >
> > Hi Pete,
> >
> > Can you add your fstab?
> > I would hazard a guess and claim that if you use device names in
> > fstab (sdXY) that your newly plugged in drive takes that name and
> > isn't a valid rootfs.
> >
> > Preferably, you would use UUIDs in fstab.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Khorne
>
> hi  Fstab ..
>
> # /dev/sda2
> UUID=318fa89a-22b9-4bdd-92a1-1e9b3f070cb3   /   xfs
> rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota   0 1
>
> # /dev/sda1
> UUID=78aca2f9-6dbd-4e21-9f4d-dae59b8c1a4f   /boot   ext2
> rw,relatime 0 2
>
> # /dev/sda4
> UUID=b17ea3f0-c632-46b1-9c78-4f1aeb8773c7   /home   xfs
> rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota   0 2
>
> # /dev/sda3
> UUID=a755fa7c-93ff-4ccb-bcd6-47560bd54cee   noneswap
> defaults0 0
>
>
>
> Hope that helps .
>
> Thanks Pete .
>


Re: [arch-general] New install second drive issue

2019-09-16 Thread pete via arch-general
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:18:59 +0200
Khorne via arch-general  wrote:

> On September 16, 2019 10:45:18 AM GMT+02:00, pete via arch-general
>  wrote:
> >Morning folks 
> >
> >I have just done a complete new install on a new drive , That is all
> >working now fine .
> >
> >My problem comes when trying to include another drive on the system ,
> >it just refuses to boot fully , I get a message unable to mount sda2 
> >now sda2 mounts  ,
> >/dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota)
> >
> >when just the one drive is in the system  but as soon as i connect it
> >refuses to to boot fully and drops out to an emergency shell that is
> >locked up solid i.
> >
> >I have set the working drive in the bios this is an older motherboard
> >with an AMD Phenome quad core CPU .
> >
> > $ lsblk
> >NAME   MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
> >sda  8:00  1.8T  0 disk 
> >├─sda1   8:10  300M  0 part /boot
> >├─sda2   8:20   40G  0 part /
> >├─sda3   8:304G  0 part [SWAP]
> >└─sda4   8:40  1.8T  0 part /home
> >sr0 11:01 1024M  0 rom  
> >
> >the drive order in the bios is set correctly not that it makes much
> >difference these days  .
> >
> >I am stuck right now i need to be able to include the old drive to
> >recover data from it  .
> >
> >Any ideas  folks ..
> >
> >Pete .  
> 
> Hi Pete,
> 
> Can you add your fstab?
> I would hazard a guess and claim that if you use device names in
> fstab (sdXY) that your newly plugged in drive takes that name and
> isn't a valid rootfs.
> 
> Preferably, you would use UUIDs in fstab.
> 
> Regards,
> Khorne

hi  Fstab ..

# /dev/sda2
UUID=318fa89a-22b9-4bdd-92a1-1e9b3f070cb3   /   xfs
rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota   0 1

# /dev/sda1
UUID=78aca2f9-6dbd-4e21-9f4d-dae59b8c1a4f   /boot   ext2
rw,relatime 0 2

# /dev/sda4
UUID=b17ea3f0-c632-46b1-9c78-4f1aeb8773c7   /home   xfs
rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota   0 2

# /dev/sda3
UUID=a755fa7c-93ff-4ccb-bcd6-47560bd54cee   noneswap
defaults0 0



Hope that helps .

Thanks Pete .


Re: [arch-general] New install second drive issue

2019-09-16 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Pete,

> I am stuck right now i need to be able to include the old drive to
> recover data from it.

When you installed on the new drive, did you attempt to reuse UUIDs,
labels, etc., from the old drive?

-- 
Cheers, Ralph.


Re: [arch-general] New install second drive issue

2019-09-16 Thread Khorne via arch-general
On September 16, 2019 10:45:18 AM GMT+02:00, pete via arch-general 
 wrote:
>Morning folks 
>
>I have just done a complete new install on a new drive , That is all
>working now fine .
>
>My problem comes when trying to include another drive on the system ,
>it just refuses to boot fully , I get a message unable to mount sda2 
>now sda2 mounts  ,
>/dev/sda2 on / type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota)
>
>when just the one drive is in the system  but as soon as i connect it
>refuses to to boot fully and drops out to an emergency shell that is
>locked up solid i.
>
>I have set the working drive in the bios this is an older motherboard
>with an AMD Phenome quad core CPU .
>
> $ lsblk
>NAME   MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
>sda  8:00  1.8T  0 disk 
>├─sda1   8:10  300M  0 part /boot
>├─sda2   8:20   40G  0 part /
>├─sda3   8:304G  0 part [SWAP]
>└─sda4   8:40  1.8T  0 part /home
>sr0 11:01 1024M  0 rom  
>
>the drive order in the bios is set correctly not that it makes much
>difference these days  .
>
>I am stuck right now i need to be able to include the old drive to
>recover data from it  .
>
>Any ideas  folks ..
>
>Pete .

Hi Pete,

Can you add your fstab?
I would hazard a guess and claim that if you use device names in fstab (sdXY) 
that your newly plugged in drive takes that name and isn't a valid rootfs.

Preferably, you would use UUIDs in fstab.

Regards,
Khorne


Re: [arch-general] Time and date in 24 hour time can this be fixed?

2019-09-16 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Dan,

> > Also, this page may be of help.
> > http://kb.mozillazine.org/Change_the_Date_Format#Configuring_the_date.2Ftime_system_settings_on_your_computer
>
> According to RFC 2822, the time of day in an email message is always in
> 24-hour format.

That's correct.

> Changing your system settings can't and won't (and IMO shouldn't)
> change that.  If anything, I think that you'll have to change
> something in Thunderbird.

There could be a setting in Thunderbird, but Thunderbird could, and does
according to that URL, make use of its environment through the locale's
time preferences, and that's what locale(1) shows.  So the correct place
to change this isn't necessary Thunderbird.

-- 
Cheers, Ralph.