Re: [arch-general] Gnome 3, a bug?

2011-05-09 Thread Gunnar Meyer

Am 06.05.2011 15:22, schrieb Steve Holmes:

Hey, I also just installed / upgraded to gnome3 and have run into some
strange problems with keyboard navigation.  First off, I cannot get
into the desktop; also I can't find a reliable way to get into the
system menu.

Keep in mind here, I'm totally blind and do not use the mouse.  I rely
strictly on use of the keyboard to navigate around the environment.
With gnome2, one can use Ctrl+Alt+d to open the desktop from anywhere
in gnome and the system menu was simply part of the main menu
structure.  Now the application and places menus are side by side but
no system menu.  Also, the key combination to focus the desktop
doesn't work.  In fact, when I use the Ctrl+Alt+Tab key combination to
cycle focus between the top and botom panels, there is no desktop
there either.  In gnome2, the desktop was also included in that
rotation.

Any ideas on how to fix this? Is this another sign of broken
functionality in gnome3?


Hi Steve,

I just had a look on Gnome’s website to see the status of their 
accessibility efforts for Gnome 3. It seems like Gnome Shell is 
currently not meant to be usable with a screen reader. It is on the 
roadmap for Gnome 3.2 though.


As for your question about the behaviour of the desktop and panel:

Gnome 3 no longer has icons on the desktop enabled by default. The 
concept of the panels also changed a lot. There no longer is a real 
bottom panel, all it offers are the notifications and icons that used to 
be in the system tray in Gnome 2. The taskbar is completely gone now, 
you can access your open applications by pressing the windows key and 
type in the name of the application.


If the fallback mode works for you, I would just stick with it. It might 
also be a good idea addressing your questions according to Gnome’s 
accessibility directly to the upstream mailing list, as few people here 
have experience with it. The URL for signing up is


http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list

-Gunnar



Re: [arch-general] Cannot Find Desktop in GNOME3

2011-05-09 Thread Gunnar Meyer

Am 09.05.2011 19:57, schrieb Yaro Kasear:

On Monday, May 09, 2011 12:53:55 Mauro Santos wrote:

On 09-05-2011 18:45, Filip Filipov wrote:

[...] from what i see accessibility, is broken a lot in gnome 3 and i
hope they will fix that in 3.2

A little bit off-topic, but how often is the 'Fun statistics' [1]
changing .  I ask because I think it is interesting what impact  Gnome3
has.


[1] https://www.archlinux.de/?page=FunStatistics

Even more off-topic, aren't percentages supposed to add to 100%? :p

How conformist of you! :O

It just counts what packages people have installed. As most users have 
more than one program in any of those categories, the sum percentages is 
over 100.

I wonder who is represented by the 0.07% not using bash though :)