Re: [arch-general] Change installation from 64-bit to 32-bit
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote: Hi all, I installed 64-bit arch on a low memory laptop (1G) not thinking about the higher memory requirement. Now I wonder, whether I can approach to change it by changing the pacman.conf entry Architecture = auto to Architecture = i686 and reinstall all explicitly installed packages. I feel like it should work. Any don't do thats, go for its, I did its out there :o)). -- Friedrich This is doable, and described in the wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Migrating_Between_Architectures_Without_Reinstalling I performed that move in the past, though in the reverse direction (i686 → x86_64). I didn’t have a problem with it. -- Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick http://chriswarrick.com/ PGP: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense
[arch-general] testing/glibc 2.18-1 breaks vte
I am running [testing] on Arch Linux x86_64. With the recent update of glibc to 2.18-1, all vte-based terminals fail to start under a non-root user. They claim that grantpt failed: Operation not permitted. Downgrading to core’s 2.17-6 restores regular functionality. Non-vte terminals (xterm, urxvt) are not affected by this. What is going on? -- Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick http://kwpolska.tk PGP: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense
Re: [arch-general] DKIM signed messages to mailing list - issue
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Genes Lists li...@sapience.com wrote: Each time I send to the arch list I get a postmaster complaint about DKIM from postmas...@bctpe4hbiu.org So go complain there. It is a problem of a list member’s server, and not Arch Linux Mailman’s. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail| always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org| http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html
Re: [arch-general] file-5.14 - change in how information is read from vmlinuz?
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I previously used the output from `file /boot/*` on the various vmlinuz files in /boot/* to detect what kernels were installed on a machine. As of file 5.14 this no longer works[1]. I'm not sure what's changed, perhaps the magic.mgc file? When I copy the magic.mgc file from previous (5.13) version of the file package I get the 'expected' output[2]. Not sure if this is a bug or simply a change in behaviour. [1] - /boot/vmlinuz-linux: x86 boot sector [2] - /boot/vmlinuz-linux: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 3.8.5-1-ARCH (tobias@T-POWA-LX) #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Mar 29 19:18, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x3, Normal VGA file -k gives better results[1]. I believe that happens because “x86 boot sector” has a higher priority or something like that in the new version. [1]: /boot/vmlinuz-linux: x86 boot sector\012- Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 3.8.5-1-ARCH (tobias@T-POWA-LX) #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Mar 29 19:18, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x3, Normal VGA PE32+ executable (EFI application) x86-64 (stripped to external PDB), for MS Windows -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail| always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org| http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html
Re: [arch-general] Set terminus as a system font
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) celticmad...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:55 AM, jug...@lavabit.com wrote: Hello. I installed Terminus from a source tarball and successfully set it as a console font (in /etc/vconsole.conf). How can I set it as a default system-wide monospace font? I've found this tutorial: http://orford.org/gtk/#fonts, but it doesn't explain how to use several fonts (is it possible?). The easiest way to install Terminus system-wide is to remove those files you added and run pacman -S terminus-font. It's in community. ~Celti default […] font != system-wide installed font! — And for this, one may need a visit to /etc/fonts/conf.d/, which is a total mess. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail| always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org| http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html
Re: [arch-general] UTC
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:40:10 +0100, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: # timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 Failed to issue method call: Input/output error That message is disconcerting (at least the error message should have been clearer). Could you have a look in journalctl (as root) to see if you can get more information about what went wrong? Sometimes I don't get an output when running timedatectl set-local-rtc 1. Resp. one time. That means it succeeded. Hi Tom, I don't know how to use journalctl, to get some useful information. [snip] If I remember correctly, one of the side effects of having your RTC in localtime is that nothing will write to the RTC automatically. Correct for my new Arch Linux install. I know you don't want to hear about the problems with localtime, but to anyone else stumbling upon this: not having your RTC in UTC is broken and will cause problems. It doesn't cause an issue in 10 years, but for sure using UTC usually is the better choice, if you don't want to have the local time for the BIOS, e.g. for timestamps when storing BIOS settings, that by the way are limited anyway. For personal historical reasons currently all my *NIX expect local time. Regards, Ralf If you really, REALLY want this: 1. make the last line of /etc/adjtime say “LOCAL”. 2. pacman -S ntp 3. Run the following script, then run it whenever you think your clock is incorrect (as root). #!/bin/bash ntpdate de.pool.ntp.org hwclock --set --date $(date) -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail| always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org| http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html
Re: [arch-general] signature from Thorsten Tpper x...@xxx.xxx is unknown trust
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Thorsten Töpper atsut...@freethoughts.de wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:37 +0100 Sébastien Luttringer se...@seblu.net wrote: Have an archlinux-keyring updated before key expiration is an elegant solution. Cheers, Indeed. Also, it was my mistake not to update the key before it expired and I have to apologize for that. By now there is a new archlinux-keyring package that contains the updated key. I'm sorry for all the trouble this has caused. Bonus question, why did the key even expire? -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail| always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org| http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html
Re: [arch-general] MBP 8, 2: Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM, bjsch...@gmail.com bjsch...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody know what I'm missing? A BRAIN?! You get an awesome Unix OS with your device, so USE IT. Seriously, I never understood people who ever think of using a non-OS-X OS as your primary OS on a Mac. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] Difference between mkarchroot and arch-chroot
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:38 AM, gt static.vor...@gmx.com wrote: Can someone elaborate on the difference between mkarchroot and arch-chroot? Basically, i want a chrooted environment for testing some program. Alternatively, is there any other better way to create an isolated environment, apart from chroot and VMs. arch-chroot — chrooting into an existing environment, using on the Arch install medium to get to your brand new root you pacstrap’d ten seconds ago (or for recovery of an existing root). mkarchroot — creating a brand new Arch Linux environment/root. So, two different things when you think about it. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] migrating Arch to a new machine - what config to keep
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:34:39PM +0800, Marek Otahal wrote: * I'll do pacman -Qe installed.txt (on the old one), pacman -S $((cat installed.txt)) (on new) That isn’t likely to work right. You should use your favorite AUR helper for this, because this list contains AUR packages, too. For other directories: /boot - nothing, /var - I dont care about old logs, is there anything else important? You may have some useful stuff (eg. databases) in /var. And copying over /var/cache/pacman/pkg may be a good idea to speed up the installation. /etc ... some files (related to hw) changed, but many (wifi, iptables, cron, security, ...) stay ...is it possible to copy/merge them in a smart way? Or I have to go through all the configuration? Go through a diff of both /etc’s and merge them by hand. That is the safest way. I read this one: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Migrate_installation_to_new_hardware and basically I'd like to elaborate on how to merge the configs in /etc (or else?) As I said: by hand is the safest way. If you make a non-human do it, you may end up without your kitten. PS. I did my migration back in February, from a system converted from i686 to x86_64 on an ext4 partition converted from ext3 (I am serious.) It went like this: dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb2 # / dd if=/dev/sda5 of=/dev/sdb5 # /home grub-install /dev/sdb# configured for (hd0,1); GRUB1. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 # vim:set textwidth=70: pgp164oqEWNRc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] PyQT fails when I try to use it with Python 2.7
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Asdrúbal Iván Suárez Rivera asdrubal.ivan.suarez.riv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, this is my first message to this list. I'm trying to install PyQT for Python 2.7 on Archlinux. I installed the following packages pyqt 4.9.5-3 pyqt-common 4.9.5-3 pyqt3 3.18.1-11 python2-pyqt 4.9.5-3 When I try to do import qt, the following message appears import qt? That isn’t right. The proper module name is PyQt4. And the industry standard is to do a ``from PyQT4 import QtGui[, QtCore]`` import. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] Upgrading an old system
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Figue ffi...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/09/12 08:35, Guillermo Leira wrote: And I'm using outlook in a XP VM inside VMware Workstation. We have Exchange at the office, and I haven't found another way of connecting to it. Thunderbird with a few addons (Lightning, SOGo and LookOut) it's enought for me with Davmail [1]. I'm using it from last 2 years and it's doing the job. My company has an (old) Exchange 2003 without POP3/IMAP. [1]: http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ $(Figue) Or easier: Novell Evolution. GNOME standard installation IIRC. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] systemd-pulseaudio-no sound card
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Arno Gaboury arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com wrote: On 29/08/12||16:16, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 16:04 +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: this is the only issue when booting with systemd. There is a certain irony in the fact that the only issue is regarding to systemd + pulseaudio and not when booting with sysvinit ;D. Rollin', rollin', rollin' ... i do not want to participate to the already much too long and boring flame about systemd, but yes, it is ironic to see my only issue comes from pulseaudio, writen by the same guru that wrote systemd! what daemons are you running under initscripts and what under systemd? -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] Some funny bloke - 2
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Sebastian Günther a...@teageek.de wrote: * Kwpolska (kwpol...@gmail.com) [22.08.12 10:19]: Were* and it's not likely. Anyone can happily send you a message like that. You just need to POST email=ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net login-unsub=Unsubscribe to http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/options/arch-general (and you can send a billion requests automatically by curl.) Curl? http? for a mailing list? Put this in an appropriate loop in a bash script: echo whatever | mail -r ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net -s unsubscribe arch-general-requ...@archlinux.org no need to fiddle with POST Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail SEB@STI@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:a...@teageek.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org That is also possible, but I didn't know the address and nobody gives it away publicly. And you need sendmail or stuff like that. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: We, is me and the people that don't like the systemd+udev beast, and they are a lot. Huh? I've never seen any complaints about udev before you. Mind you, udev is around since 2003. It was merged into systemd's source, but it's not a problem to use it without running systemd. Otherwise your system won't run, don't you think? Udev provides /dev after all... Wikipedia says you can use something else, but libudev itself is in use. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] Some funny bloke - 2
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 01:06 +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 Aug 2012 06:42, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia archli...@ishpeck.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 09:29:26PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Just received a second bogus 'unsubscribe confirmation request'. This begins to look like stalking. The request was sent from anonymouse.org, so whoever is doing this is a miserable coward apart from whatever else. It was especially hurtful for me. QQ I've done my very best to stay focused on the actual software and the argumentation of their merits. Could those receiving these emails please speak out? I haven't, for one. Not that much can be done about it.. I have received about 30 of them, all from 74.63.112.146. Where they all faked? I only received one and it wasn't a fake. Were* and it's not likely. Anyone can happily send you a message like that. You just need to POST email=ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net login-unsub=Unsubscribe to http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/options/arch-general (and you can send a billion requests automatically by curl.) -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement: NetworkManager is not running. Please start it.
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Martin Zecher mzec...@gmail.com wrote: First of all, I know this has been talked about many times already, but I still have this problem (since about 3 months now) and haven't found a way to fix it. Most of the info is in this thread, but no one seems to be following it so I decided to ask in mail list: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1147741#p1147741 I use systemd + KDM + KDE Whenever I login into KDE, the applet says NetworkManager is not running. Please start it. Networkmanager is indeed running and connects fine to previously configured networks. If I logout from KDE, restart networkmanager daemon in a shell and the relogin into KDE, it works fine. I am in this groups: adm tty disk lp wheel uucp hal network video audio optical floppy storage scanner power users lapsus networkmanager adbusers lpadmin boinc I also tried with testing's networkmanager 0.9.6.0-1 and kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement 1:0.9.0.4-1 without luck. I would really appreciate some help with this annoyance. -- Martin Código de novios Falabella: 585855-00 (gracias!) No envíen archivos pesados por mail. Usen DropBox https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTIwODk0MDk (2GB + *500MB bonus*) o SpiderOakhttps://spideroak.com/download/referral/dd6b3051b5f1f10a5674d694f22dd3e8(tras registrarse vayan a 'buy more space' e ingresen el código worldbackupday -- *8GB*) Looks like you need: systemctl enable NetworkManager.service or something like that. (case-sensitive, but might as well be lowercase!) -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16
Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch
*grabs popcorn* On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: But they take space on my harddisk. And even TB harddisks can get full some day. And not everybody is able to afford a new one at once. [kwpolska@kwpolska-lin ~]% du -sh /usr/lib/systemd 3.6M/usr/lib/systemd Seriously? Are 3.6M so much? So you don’t have any packages for shells other than the one you’re using? So you don’t have more than one terminal emulator? Of course you do! Then why do you care about systemd files? You can always run a rm -rf /usr/lib/systemd, you know. And I just don't want this systemd stuff on my harddisk. And I just don’t want this GNOME 3 stuff on my harddisk. But I don’t go whining on the MLs, I rather go pacman -R gnome. Or whatever you have. (although GNOME 3 sucks and EVERYONE will agree with that.) But, hey, it's really hard to respect other people's opinions and wishes. I understand. If other people don't want to have anything to do with a certain software then this software has to be forced onto them because the maintainer is a fanboy of this software and can't respect other people's opinions due to his rose-colored glasses. Told ya: pacman -R systemd; rm -rf /usr/lib/systemd. Your wishes are granted. You do force every Arch Linux user to install that systemd stuff. Why else do I have systemd-tools installed on my harddisk? Why else do I have all this systemd stuff in /usr/lib/systemd/system? Why else do I have even this directory /usr/lib/systemd on my harddisk? I tell you, because you force it on me. I never have installed this on my own. rm -rf /usr/lib/systemd Also, believe it or not, systemd-tools was not forced on you. systemd-tools = udev + some fancy systemd manpages and files. THAT’S IT! It could be also named udev-plus-fancy-stuff. Or i-like-turtles. Or rainbow-dash-is-best-pony. Although the last one could spawn such OT as this thread by people who aren’t (or even hate) bronies. Initscripts worked before and would still do this. If you are a systemd fanboy then provide and support systemd optional, but leave initscripts alone and revert it to what it was, before you made all those systemd changes. …and initscripts still work and will work for a while… But, yes, I forgot again, other people's opinions and wishes are dull and all those people don't know anything and have no clue what they are talking about. All those people on the whole wide web. And you are the wisdom in person. I told you how to grant your wish at least twice before, so I won’t repeat that. Your opinion? NOBODY CARES! You can still use initscripts! Nobody cares that you don’t like systemd, pulseaudio or Poettering! And if we’re talking about pulseaudio: sure, pulseaudio is a bit more “forced” on you by certain packages. But you can still live without it, I think. If you are doing “pro audio work” and you can afford a $bazillion audio card, then why can’t you afford a $200* OS? Windows will be much better! And if you really want to work like a pro, get a Mac. And if you want to stay on this fancy Linux thing used by ~nobody, and exactly 0 (read: zero) people in the pro area, especially in the pro gamer area (there are -1000 pro gamers on Linux now), and there is no way to escape PulseAudio right now, PATCHES WELCOME! Remember: systemd and pulseaudio are open-source projects. If you want to see something improved, Obligatory disclaimer: I am using three Arch systems: physical/x86_64/systemd/pulse/KDE, VM/x86_64/systemd/pulse/Xfce and VM/i686/initscripts/no-audio-at-all/Xfce. The first VM is used mainly for development under Windows (I’ve yet to see people developing linux-specific tools or even AUR helpers [pkgbuilder] under Windows), while the second one is used for a blog post that was written but isn’t since over a week. Anyways, I was criticizing both pulseaudio and systemd in their earlier stages. But now, my system (mostly) works properly. The only problematic piece of software is VLC, which has some white noise when it starts playing audio. Everyone else is fine. * = €200 from Microsoft, although it should be around €160. I love this fucking currency, especially when it’s forced on me (Steam, anyone?). Please, oh, please, kill it already. It is bloody useless. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Mime backup program
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Squall Lionheart
headmastersqu...@gmail.com wrote:
I fixed according to your recommendations:
# Contributor: Leonidas Spyropoulos leonidas at spyropoulos dot eu
pkgname=mime
pkgver=2.0.0
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc=Mime is a command line backup program written in Python
arch=('any')
url=http://code.google.com/p/mime-backup/;
license=('GPL3')
depends=('python2')
source=(http://mime-backup.googlecode.com/files/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz)
md5sums=('9f6c3a33bffde6126b7a7bd85d38e7c5')
build() {
cd ${srcdir}/$pkgname-$pkgver
chmod 644 ${srcdir}/$pkgname-$pkgver/mime.conf.sample
python2 setup.py install --root=${pkgdir}
}
This is great, thank you for taking the time to put this together. I am
working on the suggestions provided by Kwpolska and believe I have found a
new name. I was thinking of resetting the version number back to 1.0 after
the rename and the move to github, since it would be the first release
under that name. Does anyone see an issue with doing that?
Squall
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You are the project maintainer, so you decide! On a side note, I
think you don’t have many users, so a version change would work
nicely.
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Re: [arch-general] Mime backup program
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Squall Lionheart headmastersqu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, A few weeks ago there was a thread regarding the best Arch way of backing up /etc and I mentioned that I wrote a backup program that works very well for that. I promised I would let everyone know when my new version became available, and today is that day. I don't have an AUR package yet, however an installer is provided and a Quick Setup can be found in the README. The package contains full documentation and I am willing to answer questions via email. This is a very powerful and fully featured program and I welcome any feedback. http://code.google.com/p/mime-backup/ Thank you Squall -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual A great idea. I have a few suggestions: 1. A better name would be a great idea. When I saw “mime backup program”, I immediately thought of mimetypes, when I shouldn’t. 2. lsmime doesn’t use -- in front of arguments, although mime does. See (5). 3. Mind switching to version control systems and to GitHub? It’s much nicer and a billion times easier for people to contribute. 4. PyPI — http://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShopTutorial 5. argparse should be used instead of your methods of parsing arguments. It’s much cleaner and easier. 6. Use setuptools (distribute) instead of distutils. 7. Compliance with PEP 8 is a good idea. Package “pep8” from the AUR should help you. 8. If you want to have more users, rewrite it in python2. 9. Unit tests, http://kennethreitz.com/repository-structure-and-python.html and other stuff would be great to see. 10. And by the way, http://i.stack.imgur.com/RdBpi.png — python-distribute, python2-distribute, python-pip, python2-pip should be of use. 11. PKGBUILD. 12. Perform all that after a name change, if you want one. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Mime backup program
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Squall Lionheart headmastersqu...@gmail.com wrote: 3. Mind switching to version control systems and to GitHub? It’s much nicer and a billion times easier for people to contribute. I'm currently using google code and they have a source control option, I'll set that up after a rename. Does Google Code have support for pull requests or anything like that? It’s very useful for people who would like to help you. GitHub provides such awesome things. Without pull requests, I’d have to bother with creating a .patch file and then mailing it to you. With pull requests, I could just hit fork, clone the repo locally (or even edit directly online if it’s a small change), hit “pull request” and you would be able to merge my changes in 10 seconds flat. Seriously, I’d love to have every single open source project in the universe on GitHub because of stuff like that. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] IRC channel
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 01tto...@gmail.com wrote: with password-protected channels? -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. ( ) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.) On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Jean-Luc Bassereau j...@onetoserve.netwrote: Le 01/08/2012 14:37, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας a écrit : hello, I want a private IRC channel for 10 users. with voice chat ability. Do I have to set up my own server, or I can find a free provider for this? Also, if i've to set up a server, which ircd do you recommend? I want it to support voice chat and be very lightweight! Hello, You can do this on almost all IRC network like Freenode, IRCnet, Efnet But you are free to set up your own server. Just pay attention to the security, ! 1. DO NOT TOP POST. 2. There is NO voice chat on IRC. Get something else. 3. This is OT. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Arno Gaboury arnaud.gabo...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/10/2012 04:19 PM, gt wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote: Dear list I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones. Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp. [snip] So, when are you switching to mutt :P Oh la la!! It is on my list! Shall be the next step. Best would be before to learn a litle bit of Vim. But I will. On the list: thunderbird -- mutt Firefox -- w3m urxvt with colors and last step, xfce -- DWM, i3 or awsome, doesn't know excatly All this takes me a lot of time, as I shall find most of configurations by myself, but slowly, I do the job, and really love Arch !! *EDIT *: want to switch to a full*systemd* too... Isn’t that contrary to your plan? You want to use easier, lighter and more KISS software. And you want to switch to systemd. Which is anywhere near KISS. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Mailing lists vs Forums
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Mateusz Loskot mate...@loskot.net wrote: On 10 June 2012 19:25, Jayesh Badwaik jayesh.badwai...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 10 Jun 2012 19:14:19 Mateusz Loskot wrote: I'm wondering, what amount of Arch users and developers use the mailing lists in comparison to the number of people registered to the Arch Forums? Can we have some basic mailing lists statistics anywhere posted? Personally, I prefer mailing lists, but I noticed the Forums traffic is order of magnitude larger than the traffic on the lists. I don't think I answer your question directly but still... I believe people who use a desktop mail client prefer mailing list while those who use the web interface for mail like gmail.com etc prefer forums. This especially works if you are a long term mailing list user and use POP3 mail and hence can search for question using your mail client search. The reason I posted request for some statistics, is that users may be confused about where to send their requests in order to reach the very core of the Arch community. Certainly, variety is good as people have freedom of choice, but freedom of choice has side effects too. Anyway, I was just curious what part of developers and users are subscribed to the mailing list and what part use forums. I, for one, am subscribed to the lists (arch-announce, arch-dev-public, arch-general, aur-general) and also have a forums account. The difference is I read 90% of the mails I get (ignoring the signoff reports or other useless messages) and I haven't been on the forums since a few years. Not quite sure how this works for others. Also, are all Arch developers subscribed to the mailing lists? Most likely, yes. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] capturing moonlight stream
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:04 PM, FGr frgroc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Is there a way to capture a silverlight/moonlight video from a website? DownloadHelper firefox extension doesn't work. If someone is using this piece of crap, this means you aren't supposed to copy the content (DRM). And ~nobody has software to download anything through Moonlight, only Silverlight on Windows. Sorry. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] rubygems, the arch way and the aur
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:58 AM, martin kalcher martin.kalc...@googlemail.com wrote: Hmm.. i will figure out what makepkg actually needs to build the gem packages. Does it call pacman, when i call it with -d? This would a problem in my case. -d DOES call pacman, but you can modify makepkg in order to (a) not do so; (b) work under another distro (that won't be too hard, because:) # file -i does not work on Mac OSX unless legacy mode is set export COMMAND_MODE='legacy' -- makepkg; lines 37-38 And in terms of the -d calls pacman thing, here comes output from a modded makepkg, with $PACMAN (variable holding pacman command) replaced with 'echo PACMAN': every time. Run under Arch, as I don't have access to other distros. (yes, my shell server is running Arch. No, it isn't my idea. But it is awesome.) And in case you ask: this is ruby-jekyll with a different name. I had to drop all the building, because my server doesn't have ruby. [kwpolska@*** testpkg]% makepkg-kw -d PACMAN == Making package: testpkg 0.11.2-1 (Sun May 20 13:11:07 CEST 2012) == WARNING: Skipping dependency checks. == Retrieving Sources... - Found jekyll-0.11.2.gem - Found LICENSE == Validating source files with md5sums... jekyll-0.11.2.gem ... Passed LICENSE ... Passed == Extracting Sources... == Removing existing pkg/ directory... == Entering fakeroot environment... PACMAN == Starting build()... BUILD, my server unfortunately doesn't have ruby == Tidying install... - Purging unwanted files... - Compressing man and info pages... - Stripping unneeded symbols from binaries and libraries... == Creating package... - Generating .PKGINFO file... - Compressing package... == Leaving fakeroot environment. == Finished making: testpkg 0.11.2-1 (Sun May 20 13:11:09 CEST 2012) [kwpolska@*** testpkg]% If anyone from the makepkg team is reading, would you please mind: (a) making less use of pacman; (b) adding -v on lines 1292-1295 in order to inform us that the compressors are still working? -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] rubygems, the arch way and the aur
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 20/05/12 21:27, Kwpolska wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:58 AM, martin kalcher martin.kalc...@googlemail.com wrote: Hmm.. i will figure out what makepkg actually needs to build the gem packages. Does it call pacman, when i call it with -d? This would a problem in my case. -d DOES call pacman, WRONG. but you can modify makepkg in order to (a) not do so; (b) work under another distro (that won't be too hard, because:) # file -i does not work on Mac OSX unless legacy mode is set export COMMAND_MODE='legacy' -- makepkg; lines 37-38 And in terms of the -d calls pacman thing, here comes output from a modded makepkg, with $PACMAN (variable holding pacman command) replaced with 'echo PACMAN': every time. Run under Arch, as I don't have access to other distros. (yes, my shell server is running Arch. No, it isn't my idea. But it is awesome.) And in case you ask: this is ruby-jekyll with a different name. I had to drop all the building, because my server doesn't have ruby. [kwpolska@*** testpkg]% makepkg-kw -d PACMAN == Making package: testpkg 0.11.2-1 (Sun May 20 13:11:07 CEST 2012) == WARNING: Skipping dependency checks. == Retrieving Sources... - Found jekyll-0.11.2.gem - Found LICENSE == Validating source files with md5sums... jekyll-0.11.2.gem ... Passed LICENSE ... Passed == Extracting Sources... == Removing existing pkg/ directory... == Entering fakeroot environment... PACMAN == Starting build()... BUILD, my server unfortunately doesn't have ruby == Tidying install... - Purging unwanted files... - Compressing man and info pages... - Stripping unneeded symbols from binaries and libraries... == Creating package... - Generating .PKGINFO file... - Compressing package... == Leaving fakeroot environment. == Finished making: testpkg 0.11.2-1 (Sun May 20 13:11:09 CEST 2012) [kwpolska@*** testpkg]% If anyone from the makepkg team is reading, would you please mind: (a) making less use of pacman; You are doing it wrong... Remove the run_pacman function and you will see when it is called. Hint: never when using -d... I am aware of that, too. I thought it failed to work and therefore tried that way. (b) adding -v on lines 1292-1295 in order to inform us that the compressors are still working? Huh... Anyway, never by default, but you will be able to configure the compression options with pacman-4.1. And that's awesome. (normally I just modify the xz line, but I need to do it every time pacman updates itself) Allan -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] rubygems, the arch way and the aur
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:26 PM, martin kalcher martin.kalc...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] My suggestions I wrote a simple python script that creates PKGBUILDs from the rubygems.org API. I wrote it just to figure out if this works, so its pretty straight forward and i dont want to publish it it yet. It worked quite nice - it can resolve dependencies and stuff like that - but there is one problem at the moment. The API does not provide any checksums for the gems, but i opened an feature request [0]. python script Are you serious? A Python script for Ruby gems?! But seriously, a great idea and an even better scripting language choice. With this script i could imagine two things. Setting up a virtual AUR user, who handles all ruby-* packages. Then we create a rubygems account for this user, so we can create a custom rubygems feed for this user, with the gems we have in the AUR. Once a day a script checks the feed for updated gems and creates new PKGBUILDs, if needed. Pretty awesome! If it is possible to integrate this into the AUR, this would be my favorite solution. But i could imagine, that some of you will yell: 'This not what we consider KISS!' And others will yell Patches welcome. I always wanted to say that, therefore PATCHES WELCOME. But seriously, TUs/Developers/what-you-have are too lazy to do it themselves, and therefore you must learn PHP (can't call it a programming language, nor a scripting one, it's a PIECE OF SHIT), write appropriate code (good luck!), create a git-formatted patch and post it. Or find a better way to integrate it into the AUR. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] RFC: OpenRC as init system for Arch
When I first saw the topic, I thought yet another systemd-like piece of crap? Then I read that this is from Gentoo and the rest of the original post and I think it could be nice and I could even switch to it one day. But do you actually need to bother with runlevels or is it like arch (everything in $DAEMONS goes to 3 and 5, and 5 can be set for X through inittab)? -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] The proper home directories for 'no-login' users
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Vladimir Lomov lomov...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, please, consider the following output of part of mine /etc/passwd: $ sudo grep ':/:' /etc/passwd cron:x:22:22::/:/bin/false dbus:x:81:81:System message bus:/:/bin/false hal:x:82:82:HAL daemon:/:/bin/false avahi:x:84:84:Avahi daemon:/:/bin/false nobody:x:99:99:nobody:/:/bin/false dnsmasq:x:999:999:dnsmasq daemon:/:/sbin/nologin usbmux:x:140:140:usbmux user:/:/sbin/nologin These 'users' are not allowed to login: either '/bin/false' or '/sbin/nologin' is used as login shell (another question raises: why two variants? why not just '/bin/false' or '/sbin/nologin'?) but they home directoriy is '/'. I wonder why '/' was chosen for that? Is it possible to change home directories for these 'users' to, say, '/dev/null' or '/nonexistent'? The origin of my question comes from use of 'davfs': when used by normal user (being member of 'network' group) 'mount.davfs' refuse mounting to '/mnt/webdav' because '/' is home directory for some users. I found this 'workaround': http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/WebDAV (sec. Troubleshooting) so manually changed the home directories for these users to '/dev/null' (I'm not sure is it save or good way). I don't think it would be any problem to use /dev/null or anything else in there, but it was probably the easiest thing to do (because nobody bothers with writing weird home directory names for those users. --- WBR, Vladimir Lomov -- The Great Movie Posters: She's got the biggest six-shooters in the West! -- The Beautiful Blonde from Bashful Bend (1949) CAST OF 3,000! 4 WRITERS, 2 DIRECTORS, 3 CAMERAMEN, 3 PRODUCERS! 1 YEAR TO MAKE THIS FILM -- 24 YEARS TO REHEARSE -- 20 YEARS TO DISTRIBUTE! BEAUTIFUL BEYOND WORDS! AWE-INSPIRING! VITAL! THE PRINCE OF PEACE PROVIDES THE ANSWER TO EVERY PROBLEM! Be Brave--bring your troubles and your family to: HISTORY'S MOST SUBLIME EVENT! YOU'LL FIND GOD RIGHT IN THERE! -- The Prince of Peace (1948). Starring members of the Wichita Mountain Pageant featuring Millard Coody as Jesus. A bit off-topic, but please, and I mean YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO drop it. `fortune -s` and it could be here, but otherwise you don't know what you'll get and you might end up with your signature longer than your actual message. So fix it. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] fake archlinux list message
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:29 PM, George Nikolopoulos geonik...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, i received the attached message. I don't know much about email headers but it seems to have all the headers as if posted from arch linux servers. Furthermore the address gerolde.archlinux.org points to an irrelevant page. George Nikolopoulos Spammers got arch-projects' mail address somewhere (hacked someone with it in contacts?). ~All messages on the list have such headers. The one you got, mine and even yours. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] New PC and data copying -- am I doing this right?
Okay then, I don't think I'd get more responses than that. I think I'll choose C Anthony Risinger's solution, because I trust rsync more than regular cp. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:15 PM, C Anthony Risinger anth...@xtfx.me wrote: the only probalem would be windows, if NTFS has some kind of internal UUID, and it notices/cares (and windows *always* cares ;-) ... in which case i would suggest reactivating or hacking windows. you bought it. you own it. it's yours. It's an OEM, I'm changing PCs, so it won't work. I am reinstalling Windows anyway, because using XP on such machine (3-core AMD Athlon 3.4GHz, GeForce GTS450, USB3.0, 4GB RAM) would be a stupid idea. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] New PC and data copying -- am I doing this right?
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 12:44 +0100, Kwpolska wrote: It's an OEM, I'm changing PCs, so it won't work. I am reinstalling Windows anyway, because using XP on such machine (3-core AMD Athlon 3.4GHz, GeForce GTS450, USB3.0, 4GB RAM) would be a stupid idea. Did you test wine or virtualization? I'm using Linux only, but I'm aware that sometimes Windows is needed. Btw. I would like to use wine for a KORG nanoKONTROL, hardware to control audio apps on Linux, but it would be nice to run the original software to program the KORG device. And since I won an iPad 2 I currently try to get an Apple thingy run on wine, unfortunately there are still issues with wine for Arch on my machine. I noticed that even stuff that at work run on Windows, often run at Linux too, e.g. when I worked for Brauner microphones Eagle was software we look at, such amazing software is available for Linux too. Perhaps you've got good reasons to install Windows, if not, try wine or try to install Windows to a virtual machine, since this at least could save the trouble to reboot. Have you ever attempted to play a game through wine or a virtual machine? Then you should know why I am installing Windows that way and why does it get over half of the drive (yes, I'm that crazy) - Ralf PS, not important: Okay then, I don't think I'd get more responses than that. I think I'll choose C Anthony Risinger's solution, because I trust rsync more than regular cp. Just to copy and not to sync, they're doing the same. While I haven't thought about links, since it's not an issue on my machine, cp -pr isn't optimal, as somebody mentioned cp -a is the way to go. IMO rsync has to many options that could cause issues, when new to rsync. I suspect that globbing will be the same as it is for cp. Anyway, both are better than dd for your task. I'm not new to rsync, if you care. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] change in mount behaviour?
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: ./configure --disable-pulse when compiling gnome-settings-daemon should do this for this and some other situations, but that was not what we try to explain as the problem. Awesome, is this in aur yet? :D cheers! mar77i On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: It's not the problem. If it would be GDM only than simply use this: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48718 -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Google earth
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: On Saturday 28 Jan 2012 14:24:19 Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter G Nikolic p.nikol...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Does anyone have a method of getting google earth to work i HAVE tried the stuff in AUR it fails completely the packages it complains about are all out of date and have so many deps that are also out of date it is like chasing your own tail up your own backside archstuff unofficial user repo has google-earth 5.2.1.1588-1 Have you tried the updated https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15270 ? Does it fail too? Yep exactly the same failure word for word == Making package: google-earth 6.2.0.5905-1 (Sat Jan 28 14:03:26 GMT 2012) == Checking runtime dependencies... == Missing Dependencies: - lib32-fontconfig - ld-lsb - lib32-libgl - lib32-libsm - lib32-libxi - lib32-libxrender - lib32-pcre == Checking buildtime dependencies... == ERROR: Could not resolve all dependencies. so then for each of the deps i get .. :/ # pacman -S lib32-fontconfig error: target not found: lib32-fontconfig Pete -- Powered by Kernel: 3.2.2-1-ARCH KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) 14:03:57 up 21:13, 5 users, load average: 0.13, 0.09, 0.06 First of, you need the [multilib] repo, add it to your pacman.conf. Second of, you need to get the ld-lsb package from the AUR. Third of, you should run makepkg with `-si' options. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
[arch-general] New PC and data copying -- am I doing this right?
I bought a new PC. I'm going to get it a bit later, I need a plan for data movement. I created this, can someone please tell me if it's okay, and, if it's not, what should I change? 01. Remove the OLDPC drivers from Arch on OLDHDD. 02. Connect the NEWHDD to the OLDPC. 03. Create the appropriate partitions on the NEWHDD (with new sizes, EXCEPT Shared [NTFS]) 04. Copy (dd) some partitions from OLDHDD to NEWHDD (Arch, Home, Shared) 05. Use fsck on Arch and Home on NEWHDD (just in case.) # Should I do something to get them to work with the new sizes? # 07. Resize Shared (NTFS) to the approperiate size. 08. Boot into Windows twice in order to check it. 09. Install GRUB on NEWHDD, shut down OLDPC and connect the NEWHDD to the NEWPC. 10. Install NEWPC drivers to Arch on NEWHDD. (audio/video) 11. Install Windows 7 on the NEWPC. 12. Connect the NEWHDD back to the OLDPC. Re-install GRUB. 13. Boot into Windows XP on the OLDHDD. Copy some bigger Steam games to the NEWHDD. 14. At long last, profit. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] tp_smapi - LENOVO g470
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Karol Blazewicz karol.blazew...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista shellcl...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, i did it Atts, This is getting ridiculous. Please *don't* - top-post - quote whole messages - include legal notices in your mail - send three useless messages at the same time. - K.
Re: [arch-general] Hi from a new Arch user
2012/1/7 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) techlivezh...@gmail.com: 2012/1/7 Don deJuan donjuans...@gmail.com: On 01/07/2012 01:05 AM, Ionut Biru wrote: On 01/07/2012 10:37 AM, Peter Nikolic wrote: Morning all well installed Arch still a few small glitches to solve but looking good Pete . Welcome, new Archer here as well Your soul is now ours. Congratulation. No kidding I have not felt this addicted to tweaking on a OS this much, in a very long time. And love how much more I have been learning that I thought I kinda of understood before. Great times to be had .. Do I have to sign a contract? :P A kiss is okay Don't listen to him, he's Chinese, and he's wrong. You NEED to sign a contract. Come to the Aper^H^H^H^HArch Linux Enrichement Center to get yourself kil^H^H^Htes^H^H^Hcontracted. Where is it, you may ask? Somewhere around [here]http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=46.23,-86.35spn=2,2t=mq=46.23,-86.35. You will [bzzt] a cake right after you finish the procedure. -- GLaDOS
Re: [arch-general] What package owns shread
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Squall Lionheart headmastersqu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have been trying to figure out what package installs the gnu shread program and have had no luck. Pacman doesn't seem to know either and I was hoping someone here might know. If their is another way of looking this up, I would be interested to know as well. $ pacman -Qo shread error: No package owns /usr/local/bin/shread Thank you -- Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why its called the present. Headmaster Squall :: The Wired/Section-9 Close the world txen eht nepo $3R14L 3XP3R1M3NT$ #L41N http://twitter.com/headmastersqual It sits in /usr/local/bin, that means it was installed by hand, either by you or someone else who has admin rights to this machine (it may have been an app, too) -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Is there a clean solution to get completely rid of Pulseaudio?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:27 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote: On 12/23/2011 11:25 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote: On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote: can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not about libpulse? # pacman -Rss pulseaudio checking dependencies... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: gnome-settings-daemon: requires pulseaudio :: pulseaudio-alsa: requires pulseaudio ok then, gnome requires pulseaudio. The only way to get rid of pulseaudio is to get rid of gnome. 1. At the moment only GDM is installed, not GNOME. GDM is a part of GNOME, it pulls one bazillion GNOME dependencies, and one of them is, in fact, PulseAudio. 2. I had GNOME3 installed for Debian and 2 dummy packages solved all issues, since GNOME3 doesn't need PA, just some my computer should be a toy, instead of a tool tasks need PA. Okay, if the policy of Arch Linux is to force people to install unneeded stuff, than it simply isn't the distro I should use. Don't blame Arch. It is GNOME's fault, because they are too lazy to use something more universal rather than sticking with Pulse. On the other thought, you are an idiot anyways, and it would be better to get you out of there. Arch IS NOT a distro for idiots that can't read the pacman output. Thanks, Ralf -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Is there a clean solution to get completely rid of Pulseaudio?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Wow :D I first just asked for a solution similar to Debian dummy packages and get tons [1] of insults. Then I explained why I (and I know a lot of other people) will install e.g. GNOME. I'll do it again. We might wish to use this DE or simply GDM as login manager. I don't blame Arch Linux packages, I just blame answers like don't use gnome. No netiquette? I was silent since days, stopped putting in my 2 cents all the time and now I asked for help and get those answers?! That's strange and creepy. Anyway, if somebody should know a solution how to use GNOME without PA, any hints are welcome. Cheers! Ralf [1] OT, but too funny, since I got all mails two times, even more than 1k of old mails Evolution already had downloaded from the server. Dear idiot, I'm kinda wondering why you aren't filtered from my mailbox yet. You top-posted, put in useless 2 cents, and whatnot. Now you are asking a stupid question. Using GNOME or GDM without PA is I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E. Period. If you are wondering, why one needs sound in GDM, I can help you (not tested, but I'm sure it actually happens): what if you mistype your password? Or maybe you can't see the login prompt and your computer should say Choose your username and type your password? There are many uses for that. But even if you don't need that, GDM and all other GNOME apps are SUPPOSED to be used as a part of GNOME, not I-want-to-use-kde-and-gdm-and-nautilus-and-whatnot. Expect such issues. My suggestion is: (a) stop whining; or (b) learn how to code and cut out all sound stuff out of gnome-settings-daemon. No matter what you choose, there is one more option, which is much better: GET OUTTA HERE and use Debian if you like it so much. Not right? Then buy a Mac. Or Windows if you want to. PERIOD. Oh, and in case you're wondering, you will be filtered out after I see your response to this message. Sincerely, Chris Kwpolska Warrick. P.S. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Ralf Madorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:16 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote: if you don't like gdm, remove it and replace it with lxdm,lightdm or other crap out there. I like GDM. I don't like login managers where I can't browse the users. - Ralf Oh. So you want to tell me that [this][0] is a DM without a user browser, and [that][1] (sorry for an Ubuntu screenshot), and [that][2] for sure doesn't have a user list! [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KDM.jpg [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lightdm-screenshot.jpg [2]: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/File:LXDM.png I'm looking forward to your answer, especially on the first part of this message. C. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Pacman 4 XferCommand and 404 errors
On Oct 17, 2011 8:50 PM, Alex Ferrando alfer...@gmail.com wrote: Using an XferCommand in pacman.conf causes a bunch of 404 errors while downloading databases complaining about testing/core/extra.db.sig not found, but it doesn't do the same if it's using the default download method without an XferCommand. An example of that: :: Synchronising package databases... --2011-10-17 20:36:18-- http://mirror.devnu11.net/archlinux/testing/os/x86_64/testing.db Resolving mirror.devnu11.net... 78.46.68.28 Connecting to mirror.devnu11.net|78.46.68.28|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 35855 (35K) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `/var/lib/pacman/sync/testing.db.part' 100%[] 35,855 197K/s in 0.2s 2011-10-17 20:36:18 (197 KB/s) - `/var/lib/pacman/sync/testing.db.part' saved [35855/35855] --2011-10-17 20:36:18-- http://mirror.devnu11.net/archlinux/testing/os/x86_64/testing.db.sig Resolving mirror.devnu11.net... 78.46.68.28 Connecting to mirror.devnu11.net|78.46.68.28|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2011-10-17 20:36:18 ERROR 404: Not Found. A more complete example in [1] Found similar troubles with curl or aria2, and as said before nothing without XferCommands. It might seem quite obvious because the files that the downloaders complain about doesn't exist in the mirrors. However, this seems odd to me and after searching the ML and BBS I found nothing about it. [1] http://pastie.org/2713149 Don't worry, nothing is wrong, it is supposed to happen. -- Kwpolska Sent from my phone. Sorry for top-posting. Blame Gmail.
Re: [arch-general] update
On Oct 11, 2011 2:41 AM, Martin mzec...@gmail.com wrote: [spanish] Carlos, probablemente la demora con pacman no tenga nada que ver con gnome. Lo más probable es que tu mirror esté funcionando lento. Prueba esto: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Reflector En todo caso, esta lista de correo es en inglés, por lo que intenta escribir siempre en ese idioma. [/spanish] On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 08:45:42 -0300, Carlos Alberto Ospina electricao...@gmail.com wrote: Thanx Martti, but my question it is somebody know when i update, its very slowly. Rhytmbox doesnt work too. All this after upgrading gnome 3.2. On 8 October 2011 03:59, Martti Kühne mysat...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Carlos Alberto Ospina electricao...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2011 20:45, Carlos Alberto Ospina electricao...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyones!! cuando corro pacman -Syu se demora muchisimo, todo esto despues de actualizar gnome 3.2. Rhytmbox tampoco me corre. somebody know when i update, its very slowly. Rhytmbox doesnt work too. All this after upgrading gnome 3.2. $ rhythmbox (process:5915): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gobject/constants.py:24: Warning: g_boxed_type_register_static: assertion `g_type_from_name (name) == 0' failed import gobject._gobject TypeError: metaclass conflict: the metaclass of a derived class must be a (non-strict) subclass of the metaclasses of all its bases ** ERROR:pygobject.c:929:pygobject_new_full: assertion failed: (tp != NULL) Aborted un saludo a tod@s -- Carlos Alberto Ospina E. Linux User #506652 -- Carlos Alberto Ospina E. Linux User #506652 I guess you need to look at [1], especially the part where you call locale-gen. As for the rest of the messages, I can't help because I don't understand what looks Spanish to me. cheers! mar77i [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Locale Poor non-spanish man's translation: pacman may have bad repos that cause problems with gnome, try reflector. (The other paragraph is about speaking English, I presume.) -- Kwpolska Sent from my phone. Sorry for top-posting. Blame Gmail.
Re: [arch-general] Virtual box
On Sunday, September 25, 2011, Scott Lawrence byt...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/11 09:30, Carlos Alberto Ospina wrote: When i start Windos in Virtual box get the following message error: The virtual box linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or ther is a permission problem with (dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executin rc.d setup vboxdrv as root. This package keepr trackc of linuex kernel changes andrecompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary. I execute the instuccion but this message show again. If someone has already happened, i would apreciate you help. The module must be loaded (modprobe vboxdrv) and you must be in the 'vboxusers' group (gpasswd -a s vboxusers). After the latter step, you'll have to obtain a new session with the new permissions - restart, for example. -- Scott Lawrence Don't forget to run `rc.d setup vboxdrv`. You need to run it every time you update your kernel. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Virtual box
On Sunday, September 25, 2011, Scott Lawrence byt...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/11 09:30, Carlos Alberto Ospina wrote: When i start Windos in Virtual box get the following message error: The virtual box linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or ther is a permission problem with (dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executin rc.d setup vboxdrv as root. This package keepr trackc of linuex kernel changes andrecompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary. I execute the instuccion but this message show again. If someone has already happened, i would apreciate you help. The module must be loaded (modprobe vboxdrv) and you must be in the 'vboxusers' group (gpasswd -a s vboxusers). After the latter step, you'll have to obtain a new session with the new permissions - restart, for example. -- Scott Lawrence Don't forget to run `rc.d setup vboxdrv`. You need to run it every time you update your kernel. -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] only root can select/copy text using gpm
On Tuesday, August 30, 2011, Juan R. de Silva juan.r.d.si...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:19:02 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: I installed and configured gpm daemon. The daemon starts and the mouse works fine, including copy-and-paste. But only in a console were I log as root. When I open another tty and login there as a normal user, the mouse cursor is available. I mean, it is visible and moves as desired. But I can neither select nor copy anything, since drugging does not work. The whole point of installing gpm for me was to facilitate the use of Arch Wiki sources and instead of typing large pieces just copying and pasting them. Having this problem I would be forced to run 'links' in a root environment that does not seem very safe to me. Is there any solution for this, please? Sorry for misleading you folks. I've just figured I was wrong. gpm works as expected in both root and user consoles. This is 'links' that for some reason does not allow me copying text using mouse. I'm looking into it right now. I'm probably missing some library or something like this. But as per the subject it's a kind of solved. :-) I think that links uses the mouse for control (not tested, using elinks since a while). -- -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70:
Re: [arch-general] Archlinux in Vmware Workstation 7.1.4
On Aug 8, 2011 8:01 AM, Tong Zhang warriorla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All! I am now using Archlinux this is my `uname -a` result: Linux myarch 3.0-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 6 16:18:35 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linu In vmware workstation 7.1.4, and several days ago, when I was still running kernel 2.6.39, my open-vm-tools worked OK, I can access my shared folder, but when I updated the kernel to 3.0, the shared folder mount point disappeared, someboy help! Thanks very much! --Tony You need to rebuild the kernel modules. Google for more details. -- Kwpolska Sent from my phone.
Re: [arch-general] lost+found is quite big, although I haven't lost anything?
On Aug 8, 2011 8:19 PM, Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de wrote: Hi, since the free space on my system is getting less and less, I was about to clean it up when realizing that my lost+found directory on this ext4 formatted partition is about 37G big. The system hasn't crashed so far, wasn't shutdown improperly (as it is attached to a UPS), so its seems quite strange to me. I immediately unmounted the partition and ran an fsck (both with and without the force parameter), but it hasn't reported anything wrong, nor cleaned up the directory. I'm now a little bit concerned as to why this happened and what to do about the directory. Can it be safely removed? Where do this 37G come from? Best regards, Karol Babioch Are there any files in this directory? If you had no system problems, it shall be empty. --Kwpolska
Re: [arch-general] lost+found is quite big, although I haven't lost anything?
On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 08:50:56PM +0200, Karol Babioch wrote: Hi, Am 08.08.2011 20:28, schrieb Kwpolska: Are there any files in this directory? If you had no system problems, it shall be empty. Yeah, there are some files, although I don't understand how the 37G is actually calculated: [root@nas lost+found]# du -h 4.0K./#132710716 4.0K./#132710724 4.0K./#132710728 4.0K./#132841584 4.0K./#132841587 4.0K./#132841590 4.0K./#132841593 4.0K./#132841554 4.0K./#132841559 4.0K./#132841572 4.0K./#132841574 4.0K./#132841858 4.0K./#132841859 4.0K./#132907152 4.0K./#132907155 4.0K./#132907158 4.0K./#132907164 4.0K./#132907167 4.0K./#132907170 4.0K./#132907173 4.0K./#132907176 4.0K./#132907179 4.0K./#132907182 4.0K./#132907185 4.0K./#132907188 4.0K./#132907191 4.0K./#132907194 4.0K./#132907197 4.0K./#132939819 4.0K./#132939822 4.0K./#132939825 4.0K./#132939831 4.0K./#132939837 4.0K./#132939840 4.0K./#132939843 4.0K./#132939844 4.0K./#132939846 4.0K./#132841596 4.0K./#132841599 4.0K./#132841602 4.0K./#132841605 4.0K./#132841608 4.0K./#132841611 37G . Each of these directory itself is empty. Is there a way to find out more about these entries? Best regards, Karol Babioch I'd like to see (from root): ls -laR /lost+found -- -- Kwpolska http://kwpolska.tk stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. # vim:set textwidth=70: pgpCwAfYUpPVf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] lost+found is quite big, although I haven't lost anything?
On Aug 8, 2011 9:07 PM, Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de wrote: Hi, Am 08.08.2011 20:53, schrieb Kwpolska: I'd like to see (from root): ls -laR /lost+found Actually it's /srv/storage/lost+found, but this shouldn't matter here. I hope the log isn't too long, but I'm not sure whether an attachment would be better. [root@nas ~]# ls -laR /srv/storage/lost+found/ [snip] This seems a bit weird… I suggest to remove it. The lost+found directory would be recreated at the next boot, but it would be empty,so don't worry. --K. Sent from Android, it was a pain in the ass.
Re: [arch-general] virtualbox additions package naming
On Jul 19, 2011 4:12 PM, Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: I've been criticized a lot because I choose poorly the name for guest additions. Right now the packages are like this: virtualbox-addtitions - contains the iso with guest additions for linux/windows/etc and is installed on host virtualbox-guest-additions - contains guest additions only for an arch linux system as guest. virtualbo-guest-modules - modules only for an arch linux system as guest. Now that virtualbox 4.1 is released I need help choosing this names. -- Ionuț I'd suggest: * virtualbox-additions-iso * virtualbox-additions-guest * virtualbox-additions-guest-modules -- Kwpolska (sent from Android)
Re: [arch-general] OK so HARDWARECLOCK=localtime is strongly discouraged BUT???
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:36:45AM -0400, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
It would appear that on Jul 12, Tom Gundersen did say:
It would appear that your pre-quotation messages are annoying.
[snip]
Actually I wouldn't notice the adjustment at all except that certain
system messages put things on the tty1 screen. So since I'm logging on to
the console instead of using some {Display Manager's} gui login screen,
there is {echoed?} to the screen a short oneline message about the
adjustment that includes several digits with a . in the middle that I'm
assuming is a reference to how big the change was. At that point I don't
have gpm working so lets pretend it says NTP: adjust RTC [012.001]
n which case if I were starting to login as jtwdyp I might see:
myhost login: jtwd
NTP: adjust RTC [012.001]yp
Password:
Or some such thing. So unless the ntpd called from rc.local is NOT supposed
to leave a message on tty1, I don't think that's a bug.
Not a bug. Just add `21 /dev/null' at the end of your line.
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Re: [arch-general] Future of 'kernel26'
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:57:23PM +0200, Marek Otahal wrote: 100% agreed! although i think this thread is pointless, imagine google search for broken wifi: gg linux broadcom wifi problem or gg kernel broadcom wifi problem cheers! m. The `proper' google search terms are: WiFi Problem under GNU/Linux with a Broadcom [card model etc]. -- Cheers, -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org # vim:set textwidth=70: pgpecTouxLjO0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] rc.d bash completion
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:42:31PM +0200, Clément Démoulins wrote: I tried to send the patch to arch-proje...@archlinux.org but i'm not allowed to post in this mailing list. I join the patch if you can send it. Subscribe to the mailing list at http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-projects and you will be able to send it. -- -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. pgpqj4MOjdbXG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] After the recent linux kernel update booting fails if usb disks are present in /etc/fstab
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 02:14:03PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote: I'm facing the same issue ,for the momment I just unplug the usb storage at boot. I'm running x86_64. Is there already a solution for x86_64 architecture? Regards, Victor Please don't top-post. An x86_64 package was linked here (see below). It's available in the AUR already. --- On 17 May 2011 14:47, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: Please try: http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~teg/udev-168-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz to see if the problem is solved for you, and report back at https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24288. (assuming you are on x86_64, I'll do i686 tonight). -- -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. pgpn41h5aZYT9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] Cannot Find Desktop in GNOME3
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 09:03:21AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: Has the desktop, as we know it, gone away? At the moment, I am using fallback mode because gnome-shell is completely broken as far as screen reader accessibility is concerned. GNOME 3 has no desktop at all. You can start nautilus and you will have it, but I, for one, think it does not comply with The GNOME 3 Way (no configurability, no usability, made for TOTAL IDIOTS.) -- -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. pgpH3VH12kSHb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] [pacman-dev] pyqt packages confusion
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 02:15:51AM +0200, Andrea Scarpino wrote: I changed this because we are going to remove python2 a day. Are you serious? Do you really want to get rid of python2? That's impossible. Python Wiki[1] says: The downside of breaking backwards compatibility in 3.x is that a lot of that [quality] software doesn't work on 3.x yet. [1]: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 Should I use Python 2 or Python 3 for my development activity? -- Cheers, -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org pgpHua5SIWTis.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] Display Manager rc.d scripts
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 07:53:49PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: How would you make sure e.g. kdm was started before (or after) another daemon if you use the runlevel approach? If you use the runlevel approach, DMs start after all DAEMONS. This is usually the right behavior. You start DBUS and other crap and then go for Xorg. -- -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 | Arch Linux x86_64, zsh, mutt, vim. pgppNYURbK9uD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] cronie-1.4.7-4
Possibly it should have some comments in it explaining why it has no content, instead of a literally empty file. I suggest #m hh dd mo dw command It will help people read and write their crontabs. -- Cheers, -- Kwpolska (http://kwpolska.co.cc) O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
