Re: [arch-general] Think twice before moving to systemd
2012/8/22 Sebastian Günther a...@teageek.de: * Felipe Contreras (felipe.contre...@gmail.com) [22.08.12 02:22]: Funny that you say around the same time, when it's clearly less than 6 seconds, so it's 15% slower, but that's the second instance of kdm. The first instance starts at 2s in 1000 hz, and 4s in 300 hz, so there's *clearly* a big difference. So it's only needs twice the time with only on third of the ticks? Well that is awesome... Yeah to systemd! Anyway we are talking about 2 seconds... compared to time you wasted for a lot of people: It would have been better you had just saved all the delaying seconds for 100 boots and got a cup of coffee as normal users do when they boot their computer Sebastian P.S.: sorry for feeding the trolls, but I simply could not resist... -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail SEB@STI@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:a...@teageek.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org Where is that time where computer could take up to thirty seconds to boot up ? -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] how to add autowifi to rc.conf
At the end of your rc.conf, juste like that: DAEMONS=(daemon autowifi daemon) archlinux know where are initscript, and that she have to just start them. She just need to know which you want to start.
Re: [arch-general] testing xorg-server 1.8 [xorg18]
2010/4/6 Marek Otahal markota...@gmail.com Thank you for a great job, Jan. I can confirm the xorg-server 1.8 works great for me! :) I'm running on [testing], i686, kernel 2.6.33.2, xf86-video-intel, touchpad(synaptics), keyboard, usb keyb/mouse hotpluging works as well, sound(intel hda) guvc video webcam just upgraded and voila, works like a charm! :) Happy Easter to all of you! Marek ...well, here's an update after a deeper tryout :) *touchpad(synaptics) - issues with tapping which does not work /buttons do/ *a note for testers, one can disable !hal from rc.conf but make sure to include dbus instead(hal used to start it up) otherwise policykit fails *I have troubles with resuming from suspend/black screen/ but have to make sure if it is not a problem of kernel. *as I'm using kde, here's a problem: battery monitor is disabled and i'm not sure if cpu freq scaling under kde works(probably problem of kde?, acpi command shows correct info), also there is a dependency on hal- pacman -Rcsn hal would remove a great bunch of packages(including kde), how do I figure, whats the dep.? Thanks once again, Mark PS: I would reply to arch-dev-public thread but i don't have write access to it -- Marek Otahal :o) Afaik, kde need hal, for exemple for the battery monitor, which seems to be build upon hal. I have heard that next kde's release will allow hal-free build, but I can be wrong. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] Xz, space savings and delta ... my findings
In theory, from what I've understand from archlinux, you can't downgrade by downloading a package. You must fetch it from pacman's package cache. So size doesn't matter at all. But I may be wrong. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] kaffeine [sigh] is there an alternative that:...
2010/3/30 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook jtw...@ttlc.net I could add and delete files to and from this directory tree and know that the next File-Open URL-PathToMusicDirTree would result in kaffeine playing all of them. At most all I needed to do was to set shuffle and repeat options to enjoy my background music for as long as I wanted it. That is all I ever wanted of a music player... have you try mpd ? mpc allow you to lod every file from the mpd's music directory with a single commnd like `mpc findadd Title ` -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] How to disable automatic svn updates in Konqueror 4.4?
2010/2/13 David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net On 02/12/2010 09:09 PM, ludovic coues wrote: 2010/2/12 David Rosenstrauchdar...@darose.net So it looks like an annoying feature got added to a recent upgrade to KDE4. (Maybe in the recent 4.4 beta?) When using Konqueror as a file manager, apparently there's some new subversion integration - which is getting enabled by default. If you go into konqueror --profile filemanagement and click on an svn working directory, konqueror automatically displays the svn status using icons, and automatically performs an svn update when you enter the directory. Anyone know how to disable this feature? Thanks, DR It's not specifics to konqueror. Dolphin have this svn feature too. If there is an update at every access to the directory, I'll be happy to disable it. Ooh - I think I've found the magic incantation! I ... have just committed code that allows to disable the plugins. It is too late already for providing a GUI for this (string freeze - must be postponed to KDE SC 4.5), but you can disable it by modifying your dolphinrc file. Just add: [VersionControl] disabledPlugins=Subversion http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2009/12/version-control-support.html DR Thank ! -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] How to disable automatic svn updates in Konqueror 4.4?
2010/2/12 David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net So it looks like an annoying feature got added to a recent upgrade to KDE4. (Maybe in the recent 4.4 beta?) When using Konqueror as a file manager, apparently there's some new subversion integration - which is getting enabled by default. If you go into konqueror --profile filemanagement and click on an svn working directory, konqueror automatically displays the svn status using icons, and automatically performs an svn update when you enter the directory. Anyone know how to disable this feature? Thanks, DR It's not specifics to konqueror. Dolphin have this svn feature too. If there is an update at every access to the directory, I'll be happy to disable it. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] Mounting tmpfs on /dev. Why?
2010/2/4 Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org On 02/04/2010 02:33 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: I'd like you to find any modern Linux distribution that doesn't do it this way. Good luck with that. HereticLinux :P isn't Heretic an adjective meaning '20 years old' ? -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] kde44beta - 'virtuoso -t' grabbing ~80% of the CPU every few minutes
2010/2/5 David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com On 02/05/2010 03:00 AM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: On Friday 05 February 2010 14:08:11 David C. Rankin wrote: Looking at the processes, it is 'virtuoso -t' that is to blame. Can anyone else confirm this behavior ... and .. does anyone know of a workaround? Disble nepomuk? Thanks Shridhar, I know how to do that. Nepomuk has been working fine in the past versions of 4.3.4, but now it seems that virtuoso isn't behaving properly. Are you seeing this problem as well? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com Maybe virtuoso have trouble with the database. I've see a post on this mail list or dev-archlinux where they are talking about some change in the database format. Try to move virtuoso data directory somewhere else, and check if it have something to do with your problem. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels
There is no rescue shell for when the kernel is broken ? I remember having broken archlinux 3 times, mostly the graphical interface. I have installed only one time archlinux. No need to reinstall to fix it. By the way, I'm fine with the way kernel are handled. And I doesn't understand why we should have 2 or more vmlinuz with some weird var in their names. That's archlinux, not ubuntnoob (not sure of the spelling.) But, having older package hanging in repos, no support, just the bunch of bit making an archive, could be something good. People can this way get older kernel, and try if there are less buggy. Probably that most of the time older kernel will be more buggy. But user will have the choice to downgrade there kernel, even if they haven't the space te keep every package in their cache. I feel the need to repeat, that letting package in the repo doesn't need that these package need support. Just to be in wget range at least. Allowing pacman to downgrade the kernel from the repo would be the best, but it's more work than forgetting the head-1 version of a major package in repo. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels
2010/2/1 Emmanuel Benisty benist...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: How to install multiple kernels using pacman ? Arch should do something like Fedora/Redhat. Maintain 1-2 previous kernels so that if a new one is buggy, then the old one can be used. QFT. WAIT WHAT? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/kernel26-lts/ http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/kernel26-lts/ lts is not for everyday desktop usage. By the way, there should be a way to get older with something like that pacman -S kernel26-2.6.32.6-1 In my mind, when package version is specified, pacman look if the asked version is in the repo, and get it if there is such a version. Lot of app would only provide the current version, but some critical app, like kernel, could provide one or two older version. Just by letting them in the repo. But maybe I'm totally wrong, and this will not work cause every kernel module work only with the current one. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] Multiple Kernels
2010/2/1 Xavier Chantry chantry.xav...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:59 PM, ludovic coues cou...@gmail.com wrote: WAIT WHAT? http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/kernel26-lts/ http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/kernel26-lts/ lts is not for everyday desktop usage. Who said anything about desktop usage ? It is useful for a server. And it turns out to also be a nice fallback if your new kernel is very broken. A fallback is not for everyday desktop usage, it's supposed to allow you to boot and fix/report/figure out whatever problem you have with the new kernel. If a remember right, the original poster was asking for an older kernel 'cause of usb trouble. I don't know what a server will do with a usb device. And I'm agree that head kernel is the right choice, I've chosen archlinux cause it have up to date package. And to be on the right side when world domination will happen. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] core/linux-api-headers?
Could there be a rename/fork rss feed ?
Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit
2010/1/27 Gaurish Sharma cont...@gaurishsharma.com please respond purely on technical basis. Dev don't care about technical basis. They are ok with the fact that 13 releases per year is better than only one each single year. The problem is that there is no legal stuff from lawers. I've seen two times people asking why cdrtools whole thing can't be under one single license. source and compiling stuff. This will put away the legal issue. In a far better way than getting paper from a lawers. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit
By the way, why Joerg ask that Allan do the jobs about legal stuff ? That Joerg that want that cdrkit go to official repo. Not Allan. I'm not right ?
Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails
2010/1/12 Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Guus Snijders gsnijd...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-01-10 06:27, Loui Chang wrote: [top posting trimming ] I think part of the problem is that some email clients like gmail webmail help persist the bad behaviour. They default with top posting replies and sending HTML emails. I have requested that they change the defaults, but haven't gotten any response. It isn't a big surprise though. Actually, it /is/ configurable in gmail. You can change the default to text, but bottom posting requires a greasemonkey script :S I'm intersted in how to set the default to text. I've search a bit, and found nothing :s -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] Making pacman check multiple repos
As far as I've understand the main problem, it's about mirror which are not up-to-date. So could it be possible to make a dummy package of the day ? Every morning, the main server will produce a dummy package containing the today's timestamp. So if the dummy package is 3 days old, this means that the master mirror is down, or that the mirror haven't synced since 3 days. After this, it's easy to ask to pacman to print an error message if the dummy package is 3 or 7 or whatever you have said to pacman days old. -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] Help - Sound Disappeared -- Really! All modules - Gone?? (kernel bug?)
2009/12/3 Raghavendra Prabhu raghu.prabh...@gmail.com haha... I think we may soon see RTFM replacing DTFG(Do the F* Googling) or something better It is not Do that Friendly Google ? : ) -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises
None at all. Now i'm running xmonad, with a mix of gui (gimp,inkscape,browser) and non gui My english wasn't one of the best, but isn't a windows manager the same thing as a desktop ? -- Cordialement, Coues Ludovic 06 148 743 42 -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/~thomas/autowifi = 404
as far as I know, autowifi is a automagic tools to connect you when your are deconnected. It work like a wrapper for wpa_* -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: [arch-general] postgresql 8.4
2009/9/9 Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com
like to help get these up to date in any way I can. I can maintain
postgres and related packages if necessary.
Common way to upgrade a package for bare user is to attach a updated
PKGBUILD. CC the maintener is good too.
This package look like it simply need to be version bumped. I've just made
the following change, and everything have compiled fine.
pkgver=8.3.7 = pkgver=8.4.0
pkgrel=3 = pkgrel=1
md5sums=('1f172d5f60326e972837f58fa5acd130'
'7d8ea2abb6a8cdacf35604bda659a34a'
'df6ddf9e2ab4700a3415f17c0f4f4172'
'4d74f4227dc5e12bf95b3490758d86c9'
'96f82c38f3f540b53f3e5144900acf17')
=
md5sums=('7b7e91a2221e55fe1b167e663217a96d'
'7d8ea2abb6a8cdacf35604bda659a34a'\
'df6ddf9e2ab4700a3415f17c0f4f4172'
'4d74f4227dc5e12bf95b3490758d86c9'\
'96f82c38f3f540b53f3e5144900acf17')
In order to pass dependency check, postgresql-libs need to be updated too.
You can find the PKGBUILD in abs.
[arch-general] PKGBUILD for updated libldap
I've see that libldap is version 2.3.43 on arch, and the last release on there website is 2.4.17 . I attach the PKGBUILD with this mail. PKGBUILD Description: Binary data
Re: [arch-general] Why doesn't plasma-panel show open apps in 2 rows in arch?
there is a setting for this, but the task manager is some pain to open his settings dialog. If you set force rows settings, you get several rows.
Re: [arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.
I'll talk about my machine, with KDE4. I don't know why you get all these weird stuff. 1) the libjepg.7 vs 62 problem - I've exhaustively tried every solution over the last few hours on the forums and cannot get kmail to work - loads but 'poof; up in smoke once the gui appears My kmail is working without these problems. Haven't get any problem with libjpeg since I've tried to mix up testing repo and normal repo. 2) Dolphin - I really liked konqueror - can one still install this as a file browser. I note there is a kdebase-konqueror package, using this multiple 'file exists in the filesystem' messages I could use a force but god knows what this will trash. Any alternatives. I'm using konqueror for web browsing, and from times to times as a ftp browser. konqueror is still working, and can still open folder. But I can't find out how to tell to KDE that I wanna konqueror as default file browser. 3) Is there anyway to have two tool bars down the bottom like one could in KDE3 I've just tried. I believe that it's not possible. Anyway, you can put most of the thing you would find in a tool bar on the desktop. Like the systray, and the task manager. You could simulate a second tool bar this way. 4) is it is any way possible to import kmail boxes (in one go) into thunderbird - mind you I like kmail better! 5) Kwrite ? same applies kdebase-kwrite but is it possible to install under kde4.3? Kwrite is working for me. Kate too. For kmail/thunderbird, I don't know. never try to import anything. Good luck for the install.
Re: [arch-general] '*' in PKGBUILD for the conflicts array
I just replied in the bug report but for those that are interested something like: conflicts=(kdebase-*) may be achieved using conflicts=$(pacman -Ssq kdebase-) or simply cut and paste the output of pacman -Ssq ... into conflicts=(). Simply pasting will not work if someone is just bumping the package using conflict's version and that kdebase-* have get some new member. But it's better from my point of view.
Re: [arch-general] Weird png corruption issue from Gwenview using crop - Save As - to a smb share
Firefox doesn't want to open the corrupt file, because it contain errors. Maybe it's related to smb. Have you try to simply Save As to the smb share ?
Re: [arch-general] kde4 Help system error - Arch or KDE error?
As for as I know, this error means that there is no doc for this part of konqueror config. Amarok have the same issue.
Re: [arch-general] Relating to missing lzma manuals.
lzma format and tools ahve never reach the stable stage. There are stuck as beta, and have been replaced by .xz format. from http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-file-format.txt: It is intended that this this format replace the old .lzma format used by LZMA SDK and LZMA Utils. So its probably an upstream problem.
Re: [arch-general] In defense of pacman.static
It's a problem with the default pacman.conf I suppose. By default, pacman is configured to upgrade itself first. If he have upgrade itself, but forget to bring dependencies with it, it's a shame. I think this is a bug with the FirstSync option in pacman.conf
Re: [arch-general] ext3 driver for windows
I'm more concerned about compatibility between mac and ext3. Anyone have tried before ?
Re: [arch-general] compile flags with ABS
I need some compile flag for PHP. I'm using ABS for that. The only thing I do is to change the build section in the PKGBUILD. Can this help you for your app ?
Re: [arch-general] PHP 5.2 makedepends
2009/7/8 Dan Vratil vra...@progdansoft.com Hi, I'm trying to build PHP 5.3. I use PKGBUILD for current PHP 5.2.10 and I found there something weird in makedepends field. There are packages imap and smtp- server. Smtp-server is provided by courier-mta, but courier-mta conflicts with imap, so we have unresolvable conflict. I think this should be fixed (should I open bugzilla report?) or am I missing something? Thanks, Dan I get this error every time I compile php with the PKGBUILD. And this is an issue for me, 'cause I need to change a compile flag with my yaws config. If there is already a bugreport, sorry for the trouble. Any way, if you know every others dep are OK, you may simply pass a -d argument to makepkg. It's my way of doing thing. Probably wrong, as well as my server's config, accessing php directly trough the binary, without any redirection of anykind. PHP like to display warning for this.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [announcement draft] New module-init-tools changes modprobe configuration file location
I suppose that the location of this file isn't really important for the system, as long as the system can put his hand on it. And from my point of view, it's better to have a consistent system, in other word all apps.conf file in /etc, side by side with the apps.d my 2 cents
Re: [arch-general] kde-unstable install - Round 2 - There is a BUG here...
look at package directory, and try to see if there is any leftover after have removed kde. There should be none, be there should be no bug too. 2009/6/18, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com: On Wednesday 17 June 2009 19:13:54 David Rosenstrauch wrote: On Wed, June 17, 2009 7:49 pm, David C. Rankin wrote: DR, List Here is the situation after the difficulty I had installing kde-unstable on the x86_64 box where I finally just installed with '-f', I have the exact setup on an i686 box where I am trying to install kde-unstable, but this time finding a way to do it without resorting to the '-f' option. On the box, I have kdemod3 installed and configured and I have never specifically installed kde4 from anywhere (I guess I got it by default with the Arch install). So far, all packages for kde-unstable have been downloaded to the i686 box when I tried to install kde-unstable with 'pacman -Sy kde kde-extragear'. There were 2+ lines of conflicts of the following type: Egads! How many times do I have to say it?!?!? 1) First UNINSTALL any existing KDE packages. i.e., repeat: pacman -Rs kde-whatever 2) Then, install KDE from unstable. i.e., pacman -S kde Sheesh! :-) DR Err umm, DR, umm: Did you miss this part, or are we somehow not communicating? [18:02 supersff:/home/david] # pacman -Rs kde k3b k9copy kdiff3 kde not found, searching for group... :: group kde: kdebase-runtime kdelibs kdemultimedia Remove whole content? [Y/n] then [18:21 supersff:/home/david] # pacman -Q | grep kde | grep -v kdemod3 nothing pacman -Rs kdemod3-complete basket compizconfig-backend-kconfig filelight ksensors qcad then I even confirmed with: pacman -Q -s | grep kde nothing Then and only then did I pacman -S kde and it still blew up with 2+ conflicts What else could I have done?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Re: [arch-general] okular print preview error
2009/6/18, Nicolas Bigaouette nbigaoue...@gmail.com: No, but that check box should disable it if there is any DRM in the pdf (which might not be the case for most pdf!) Maybe verify if the disk hosting /tmp is full? Try df to see if it is... 2009/6/14 prad p...@towardsfreedom.com On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:12:52 +0200 Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de wrote: Did you disable DRM support in Okular? pierre, checking or unchecking the Obey DRM limitations box has no effect. is there another way to disable DRM? -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's
Re: [arch-general] Anyone coming to LSM '09?
I'll at the other end of the country. near of dijon to be exact. So it'll be difficult for me. Maybe another year. 2009/6/17, Pierre Chapuis catw...@archlinux.us: The 10th Libre Sofrware Meeting will take place in Nantes (France) from July 7th to July 11th. It is the biggest Open Source event in the country (see http://2009.rmll.info/?lang=en). Are there Archers planning to attend? Speaking French is probably required to take part in some of the conferences but not mandatory for all of them. -- catwell
Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop
If you are planning on moving to KDE4, wipe out KDE3 and install KDE4. I'm moving to KDE unstable atm. Koffice was complaining at the begin, so I've remove it as he want kde-base4.2 I'll tell you if there is any trouble in the upgrade.
Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop
look like I'd installed koffice from aur, and haven't update it for some times. I can't found the error message in pacman.log, but I have an install in march, and that I've remove it today, plus a build in my home. By the way, kde4.3 is really cool.
Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop
Err -- Ah Ha! So Arch uses /opt/kde for both kde3 and kde4 instead of leaving kde3 as /opt/kde and installing kde4 in /usr/bin. That's got to be the difference and the reason I can't have both kde3 and kde4 live side-by-side?? Is that correct? my /opt contain only openoffice, java and erlang stuff... Nothing concerning kde.
Re: [arch-general] KDE4.3 Beta - Rocks, still a bit rough, but very usable as a primary desktop
So I'm wondering why package are causing issues. Try to do what pierre have said, install only kde-base, and add bit by bit. As far as you have show, only kde-graphics refuse to install. Maybe the issue is only here. And on the other hand, desktop effects seems to not be driver related problems for me. I've no glossy stuff like cube desktop, KDE refuse to enable them, but I've now smooth login/logout and translucent windows when moving them. And all of this with movie player working smoothly, not like with KDE4.2
Re: [arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards
I've used Wmii some few times. But the last, I've finished sick, and I've had to stop my computer for one hour or two. Every windows taking all the place is a bit oppressing, especially with wide-screen. But I can give a try to Awesome, as an alternative Wm, for when KDE is broken. Or for every days use if I can. Tilling windows manager are cool.
Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.
For me it's about 'expectations'. I expect a package manager to manage packages (unpack a new one over the old one in a sensible manner) and don't expect it to decide what's best for me in terms of what's running or not. I still find it 100% better to *let me know* that config might have changed (pacman does this automatically) and that something might need to be done if, say, I run this and that daemon. Don't run it for me. And if you absolutely have to, *let me know*. -- Jan Maybe that a PKGBUILD runned solution, could allow to set some pacman's config for this. Like a field auto-restart_daemon = 1, wich you can set to 0, if you don't want. Same for adding user. If the field is to 1, pacman manage it by itself, if it's set to 0, pacman just print warning informing the user that he need to apply change to the daemon, i.e. restart it.
Re: [arch-general] Koffice help won't work in kde3 - Any suggestions?
I've install it directly from the Arch repos. And with a mobility radeon X2300, default setting, my computer is moving from 40°C to 50°C. By the way, I've no 3D cool desktop stuff. And KDE4 can provide this to you, like a really cool desktop cube for desktop switching. i love it with only 12 desktop. But I've problem with some app and this. Like dragon, the video player. Blender is not usable too with 3D stuff actived. But I suppose it's related to my graphic card. For wikipedia, this one support openGL 2.0. But my system say openGL 1.3 mesa 7.4.2. May the luck be with you, for this try ;-)
Re: [arch-general] pidgin memory leak?
if pidgin is a problem, you can give a try to emesene. But I don't know if it have sound. And don't use msn dailly
Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.
It's just matter of few line in a PKGBUILD, isn't it ? For my, it should be ask for packager to fix it for the next upgrade. And a work on the UID / GID database is the solution for me. Maybe it might be better to work on this rather than fix every PKGBUILD.
Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.
A solution in pacman, getting rid of user adding in .install script, can allow security like asking user to confirm creation of group and user. This would be a secure way of doing thing, and users/admin would be aware of new user/group. And like glenn, I'm wondering how package can add or remove daemon. These are users set, and when are ok, need no worries. If package add/remove them, it's unexpected problem coming to the user.
Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.
That 2009/5/28, Jan Spakula jan.spak...@gmx.com: Excerpts from ludovic coues's message of Do Mai 28 17:09:52 +0200 2009: A solution in pacman, getting rid of user adding in .install script, can allow security like asking user to confirm creation of group and user. This would be a secure way of doing thing, and users/admin would be aware of new user/group. I don't get how is adding/removing users/groups from pacman directly safer then doing the same from the install script. How about just *informing* the user what's happening in the install script? Then there would be no 'unexpected behavior'. That's what I want to when I suggest to confirm the creation. And pacman can have some internal security that can be by-pass if some PKGBUILD field are used. For example, pacman could have a database with which app have add which user, and will not remove a user which is needed by an app when another app want remove it on uninstall.
Re: [arch-general] Fix or not fix? install scriptlets with user handling.
I'm agree with that. Bug report should be filed for operation on daemon in .install script. 2009/5/28, Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 18:47 +0200, ludovic coues wrote: That 2009/5/28, Jan Spakula jan.spak...@gmx.com: Excerpts from ludovic coues's message of Do Mai 28 17:09:52 +0200 2009: A solution in pacman, getting rid of user adding in .install script, can allow security like asking user to confirm creation of group and user. This would be a secure way of doing thing, and users/admin would be aware of new user/group. I don't get how is adding/removing users/groups from pacman directly safer then doing the same from the install script. How about just *informing* the user what's happening in the install script? Then there would be no 'unexpected behavior'. That's what I want to when I suggest to confirm the creation. And pacman can have some internal security that can be by-pass if some PKGBUILD field are used. For example, pacman could have a database with which app have add which user, and will not remove a user which is needed by an app when another app want remove it on uninstall. Packages shouldn't share user accounts usually, and in case they do, they should be in the filesystem package. As for (re)starting daemons: don't. It's up to the user to do that. Usually these things need configuration, it's a no-go to add them to rc.conf by default.
Re: [arch-general] KDE, Bluetooth and Wifi
I'm using netcfg too, with through the autowifi daemon ( wiki.archlinux.org/Autowifi http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Autowifi) But I'm using too some netcfg-proof network (worst than terrible wifi), and for this, I'm using archassistant.
Re: [arch-general] Koffice help won't work in kde3 - Any suggestions?
As far as I know, Koffice has never reach the stable stage a the moment. Maybe cause dev have jump from RC to working on KDE4 version. So I don't know if you will found any stable koffice apps for KDE3. Like Grigorios Bouzakis have said, I guess it's time for an upgrade to KDE4. I'm using it atm, and I have no trouble. I've just no kde graphical tools for network. But for someone editing his /etc/group file by hand with vim in place of vigr, I think it's not a problem ;-)
Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network
For sure. There are people on the eve's forum talking about worst fps with vista than older PC with XP. I just need to found an XP... There is no more thing like that in shop.
Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network
I've give a try to wine, and eve reply to me that my graphic card doesn't support shader 2. For wikipedia, a mobility radeon X2300 support directX9c, which mean shader up to 3... I wish eve-online is an openGL game... I go back to the VM
[arch-general] Autowifi not in AUR
Hi listmates, I've seen sometimes ago a link to autowifi. And I wonder why this one can't be found in AUR. I'm using autowifi since I found it, and it's great. No need to care about anything when wpa_supplicant have a right config. Just open a browser, and go on. It could be a great app in the the repo, but without any trace in the AUR, we can't vote for it, and I wonder how it can be add to the repo if it have no vote... 'cause wlan0 haven't to be more complicated than eth0. -ludovic
Re: [arch-general] Autowifi not in AUR
All I've done si to grab the lastest PKGBUILD at http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/autowifi/ I've mainly send this e-mail to know if he want to not put autowifi in AUR, if he haven't think at this. 2009/5/15, Eric Bélanger snowmanisc...@gmail.com: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:06 AM, ludovic coues cou...@gmail.com wrote: Hi listmates, I've seen sometimes ago a link to autowifi. And I wonder why this one can't be found in AUR. I'm using autowifi since I found it, and it's great. No need to care about anything when wpa_supplicant have a right config. Just open a browser, and go on. It could be a great app in the the repo, but without any trace in the AUR, we can't vote for it, and I wonder how it can be add to the repo if it have no vote... 'cause wlan0 haven't to be more complicated than eth0. -ludovic It's not in AUR simply because no-one has submitted a PKGBUILD. You or someone else need to submit a PKGBUILD for it in AUR so that people can use it and vote for it.
Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network
After some test, wined3D appears to doesn't work at all on win7. Basic game like freecell cannot be launch at all after this, and few thing like that. If I can found my vista installer DVDs, I'll try with it. If I can't, I'll search for an XP install. I hate these M$ product with no compatibility
Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network
thank for this hint. Catalyst driver doesn't seem to work, I'll give this a try.If doesn't work better, I'll try to intall my *sigh* vista. I love this game (eve-online). A bit too much I think.
Re: [arch-general] Bugs again
for me, a bug tracker is for tracking bug. For an upstream issue, the bug is spotted, reported to the bug tracker, and flagged upstream. Why it'll be closed at this point ? While there no patch to correct the bug, the bug is still here, and need to be tracked. So closing a bug report before resolving the bug is Bad, even if it's an upstream issue. That's how I see bug tracker and I wonder why it's not like this. Am I wrong ?
Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network
no luck installing the wineD3D apps. No right to write into the directX file on the win7 system, and I can't set this with corrupted graphics. I've yet some problem with the VM. I'll give a shoot at wine then cedega right now, then try back the VM if this doesn't work. I'll keep you informed.
[arch-general] problem while bridging network
hi listmate, I'm posting 'cause I have some problem when I bridge a connexion. I wanna set up a virtual machine with windws 7 to play eve online (no support for linux at this time, and I can't make it run on wine). So I've follow the wiki for setting up network with the virtual machine. But now, I'm starting my computer with eth0 and vbox0 bridged, but I can't use my wifi connexion on wlan0. If I delete the bridge with a «brctl delbr br0», I can connect to the wifi through wlan0, but my VM haven't any network. To be exact, I can connect me to my personnal network, but this have no internet connexion. Weird. If any one might help me with this, it would be nice. -ludovic
Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network
My connexion is ok now. I've just forget to read the part for wifi connexion in the wiki. Problem remain for 3D. Drive seems to don't work. I'll give a try again on wine. Thank a lot all ;-) 2009/5/13, Patrick Baumgart ba...@gmx.com: I think there is no need to bridge your network inside your machine. Use the outwards interface (eth0) in your settings. Give in windows a fresh IP for your Virtualbox. Works fin on my side. I have all Linux normal built: wlan0 to get to the router. (example 192.168.5.1, Router: 192.168.5.100) Inside Virtualbox I set the Adapter to use wlan0 as Bridged Network. And inside Windows I use a static IP to use in my network (example 192.168.5.2) or use dhcp. Baumi Am Mittwoch, den 13.05.2009, 18:25 +0200 schrieb ludovic coues: hi listmate, I'm posting 'cause I have some problem when I bridge a connexion. I wanna set up a virtual machine with windws 7 to play eve online (no support for linux at this time, and I can't make it run on wine). So I've follow the wiki for setting up network with the virtual machine. But now, I'm starting my computer with eth0 and vbox0 bridged, but I can't use my wifi connexion on wlan0. If I delete the bridge with a «brctl delbr br0», I can connect to the wifi through wlan0, but my VM haven't any network. To be exact, I can connect me to my personnal network, but this have no internet connexion. Weird. If any one might help me with this, it would be nice. -ludovic
Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network
My connexion is ok now. I've just forget to read the part for wifi connexion in the wiki. Problem remain for 3D. Drive seems to don't work. I'll give a try again on wine. Thank a lot all ;-)
Re: [arch-general] Opera Segfaults on x86_64 after kernel update
Afaik, an Atom is an erlang term for variable without content. Usefull for error or message code. But I doen't know if opera is using erlang, or for other stuff called atom.
Re: [arch-general] New vi/vim/gvim in testing requires intervention
cover the users who USE and EXPECT 'vim' but still type 'vi' (sigh) couldn't we suggest them to make an alias ?
Re: [arch-general] Are there sets for installing apache?
2009/4/21, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com: David Rosenstrauch wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: Listmates, I installed apache2 with pacman -S apache, but all I got was apache2 itself. Is there a set of packages that will install all of the modules as well? Many of them come installed with apache. (See pacman -Ql apache | grep modules/mod_.) Some others are available as separate packages. (See http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?arch=repo=q=mod_last_update=limit=50) And some other, lesser-used ones are available from the AUR. (You should learn about the AUR if you're planning to become a regular Arch user. See http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR) HTH, DR Thanks DR, again, that's just what I needed. I'll take a look at AUR and abs. I plan to replace a current opensuse 11.0 server with arch 2009.02. It will be a fun experience. I do most everything from the command line anyway, so the move to arch isn't bad at all. Just like any new distro, you just have to learn where all the pieces to the puzzle are hidden. After that, you are off and running ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Re: [arch-general] Understanding permissions
I'm pretty sure that +x is not set for everybody in home. Just cause you don't want that anybody can see what folder you have. If you want have have a pokemon subfolder of anime, nobody else need to now this. So, for me, +x have not to be set. But doesn't seem to be the case for my home directory... Hopefully, it's my laptop, not a shared computer.
Re: [arch-general] Bug reports for out of date packages?
I suppose that some maintainer are not looking as often as some people from the arch's community want to there package. Couldn't be multiple maintainer for package ?
Re: [arch-general] Makefile to build all packages
Sure that abs is sexier than ./abs ^__^
Re: [arch-general] Makefile to build all packages
just a question, what the difference between «cd abs» and «cd ./abs» ? Afaik, « ./ » stand for « current directory / », so it will not change the cd target, doesn't it ? 2009/4/5, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com: Alessandro Doro wrote: On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 04:35:04PM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: Kurt J. Bosch wrote: On 2009-04-04 15:06, Baho Utot wrote: find returns the directory entry with ./ in front of the directory name Anyone know how to make find return abs instead of ./abs man find suggests -printf %P for this :) doesn't work Do you maybe need this? for i in $(find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d -printf %P\n) ; do That did indeed work Now my script works out of the box Many Thanks
Re: [arch-general] Fatal Error
if coming back to X give a fatal error, there is a problem. try to find a clean way to shut down X, then see if the pipe is still broken. If so, try to comment out the block, then watch what change happen.
Re: [arch-general] Computer blocking due to kernel - userspace incompatibility?
look like an not-recognized-by-X keyboard. i've get some weird problem like that when I've install X. But maybe your cursor have already work. In this case, sorry for the useless post. 2009/3/30, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: RedShift schrieb: Is it possible a computer gets stuck (not responding to keyboard, the only way to bring it back alive is a hard reset) because of a incompatibility between the kernel and userspace? The cursor is still flickering though, that is what leads me to believe it's software crash, not a hardware crash. This is the software in question: glibc 2.9-4 kernel-headers 2.6.27.6-2 kernel26 2.6.25.10-1 If there was a problem, you should get kernel too old as soon as init is started. Our userspace should work with 2.6.16 and newer (some kernel-related things like udev might fail, but the binaries themselves should be able to execute). However, you can never rule out a bug that causes this, I am only stating what it _should_ support.
Re: [arch-general] (no subject)
2009/3/30, xq xiaoq...@gmail.com: -- Yogi Berra - A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore.
