Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-03-01 Thread Jürgen Werner
Am 01.03.2016 um 02:54 schrieb Marshall Neill:
> This is what I fail to understand; How did this get out of testing when
> obviously something is broke?
> 

Erm... package-query is in the AUR. There is no testing. No garantees.
Just trust in the maintainers, who, by the way, are doing great jobs
most of the time.


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Check "Notify of new comments" at
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yaourt/ , so next time you don't
need to ask a stupid question about an official unsupported tool
anymore, at an AUR unrelated mailing list, since the yaourt comments
nowadays are misused as a forum, it's impossible to miss even the
slightest issue and workarounds [1]. However, again yaourt isn't
out-of-date and there's no need to rebuild it. As Eli already pointed
out, you need to rebuild package-query{,-git} [2], to do this download
the tarball and use makepkg.

[1]
zanny commented on 2016-02-29 21:02

  New package-query fixes everything, crisis averted. Thank you to all
  the hardworking volunteers for pushing a release so quickly!

Skunnyk commented on 2016-02-29 20:45

  Please update to package-query 1.8 (just released:
  https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/package-query). It should fix all
  rpc v5 problems. A new yaourt version will follow in a few days.

Ralf_Mardorf commented on 2016-02-29 13:08

  If something like this happens, I build temporarily from git, but keep
  the package name without the "-git" extension, instead I add an "r" to
  the output of git describe.

  [rocketmouse@archlinux package-query]$ pacman -Q package-query
  package-query 1.7.r172.g4d856ec-1

  An official release update of package-query should replace the
  temporarily build package. Skunnyk commented on 2016-02-29 12:08

  Yes, the "old" aur rpc api is broken since this morning (new api
  included in aurweb 4.2.0, see
  https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-dev/2016-February/003993.html
  ) Fortunately, package-query-git already support the new api v5. We
  need to make an official release of yaourt / package-query to fix
  theses problems.

viq commented on 2016-02-29 09:35

  gourdacaptain: pacaur seems to manage fine right now

gourdcaptain commented on 2016-02-29 07:06

  Similar issue. Does anyone know if this is also applying for other AUR
  helpers?

  EDIT: Installing package-query-git fixed the issue for now.

josephgbr commented on 2016-02-29 06:13

  Me too. It looks like package-query is unable to get package list for
  some reason. Baemir commented on 2016-02-29 05:37

  yay complete breakage

zanny commented on 2016-02-29 05:28

  Yea I'm not seeing any AUR packages. Fairly sudden, I'm wondering if
  something on the AUR server is down that yaourt uses.

diogobaeder commented on 2016-02-29 05:07

  Am I the only one getting "target not found" for any AUR package, with
  yaourt?


[2]
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ date;yaourt -Syua
Tue Mar  1 08:55:57 CET 2016
[snip]
aur/package-query  1.7.r172.g4d856ec-1 -> 1.8-1
[snip]


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Jonathan Villatoro
Most of us actually build our AUR packages ourselves.

Best regards,
Jonathan Villatoro

El feb 29, 2016 8:26 PM, "Marshall Neill" 
escribió:
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> OK, fill me in.   What are they using then.   I see a lot of posts about
yaourt not working, so I guess I assumed wrongly.
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> On 02/29/2016 08:19 PM, Jason Ryan wrote:
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>> On 29/02/16 at 08:17pm, Marshall Neill wrote:
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>>> After all yaourt is used by most everyone…
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>> Patently false.
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>> /J
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Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 02/29/2016 09:25 PM, Marshall Neill wrote:
> OK, fill me in.   What are they using then.   I see a lot of posts about 
> yaourt not working, so I guess I assumed wrongly.

Some people don't use the AUR at all.

Those who do have a number of AUR helpers to consider, assuming they
don't simply use makepkg directly.

You can see a big list of them here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers

"most everyone" would imply a(n overwhelming) majority of people, as
opposed to simply being one of if not the most popular choices -- which
leaves open the very realistic possibility that a majority of people are
actually split among the other options.

...

As a matter of fact I am a happy yaourt(-git) user. But I would never
post about yaourt not working... because those are mainly people who
DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

-- 
Eli Schwartz


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Marshall Neill
OK then, you have my apologies for going off the handle and assuming 
something that I shouldn't have.

Guess  I learned to eat some humble pie today.
Again, my apologies.









On 02/29/2016 08:23 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote:

On 02/29/2016 09:17 PM, Marshall Neill wrote:

No I am not, but, yaourt crashes with package-query issue.
Now, am I wrong for asking.
After all yaourt is used by most everyone and it would seem to me that a
simple yaourt -S alsi, a simple program with no real dependencies, would
install and not crash.

package-query seems to be  the issue here, right?   Or am  I off base?

In that case you are *certainly* wrong. And I should have gone with my
original response, which was "You clearly have absolutely no idea in the
slightest what you are talking about".

Because AUR packages don't have a "testing".

Also, yaourt and package-query both worked fine, until an update to
aurweb "broke" package-query.
So how can you possibly think any sort of testing would have averted that?


(Let us not get into your claim about most everyone using yaourt.)



Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Marshall Neill
OK, fill me in.   What are they using then.   I see a lot of posts about 
yaourt not working, so I guess I assumed wrongly.











On 02/29/2016 08:19 PM, Jason Ryan wrote:

On 29/02/16 at 08:17pm, Marshall Neill wrote:

After all yaourt is used by most everyone…


Patently false.

/J



Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 02/29/2016 09:17 PM, Marshall Neill wrote:
> No I am not, but, yaourt crashes with package-query issue.
> Now, am I wrong for asking.
> After all yaourt is used by most everyone and it would seem to me that a 
> simple yaourt -S alsi, a simple program with no real dependencies, would 
> install and not crash.
> 
> package-query seems to be  the issue here, right?   Or am  I off base?

In that case you are *certainly* wrong. And I should have gone with my
original response, which was "You clearly have absolutely no idea in the
slightest what you are talking about".

Because AUR packages don't have a "testing".

Also, yaourt and package-query both worked fine, until an update to
aurweb "broke" package-query.
So how can you possibly think any sort of testing would have averted that?


(Let us not get into your claim about most everyone using yaourt.)

-- 
Eli Schwartz


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Jason Ryan

On 29/02/16 at 08:17pm, Marshall Neill wrote:

After all yaourt is used by most everyone…


Patently false.

/J

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Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Marshall Neill

No I am not, but, yaourt crashes with package-query issue.
Now, am I wrong for asking.
After all yaourt is used by most everyone and it would seem to me that a 
simple yaourt -S alsi, a simple program with no real dependencies, would 
install and not crash.


package-query seems to be  the issue here, right?   Or am  I off base?






On 02/29/2016 08:03 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote:

On 02/29/2016 08:54 PM, Marshall Neill wrote:

This is what I fail to understand; How did this get out of testing when
obviously something is broke?

Are you seriously suggesting it is the Arch Linux AUR developers who are
responsible for making sure every single AUR helper in existence
supports newer versions of aurweb, before updating the AUR backend?



Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 02/29/2016 08:54 PM, Marshall Neill wrote:
> This is what I fail to understand; How did this get out of testing when 
> obviously something is broke?

Are you seriously suggesting it is the Arch Linux AUR developers who are
responsible for making sure every single AUR helper in existence
supports newer versions of aurweb, before updating the AUR backend?

-- 
Eli Schwartz


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
On Monday, 29 February 2016 19:54:54 IST Marshall Neill wrote:
> This is what I fail to understand; How did this get out of testing when
> obviously something is broke?

AUR does not promise any stability, unlike core and extra packages. 

-- 
Cheers
Jayesh Badwaik


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Marshall Neill
This is what I fail to understand; How did this get out of testing when 
obviously something is broke?






On 02/29/2016 07:10 PM, Rafael Fontenelle wrote:

2016-02-29 21:03 GMT-03:00 Jayesh Badwaik :


Hi,

I am no longer to view any AUR packages using either packer or yaourt. Is
anybody else facing the same problems?

$ yaourt -Ss visit
community/visitors 0.7-4
 A very fast web log analyzer
$


--
Jayesh Badwaik



The maintainer of package-query already solved the issue, and post the
following comment:

Skunnyk commented on 2016-02-29 20:43


Released package-query 1.8 : it fix the compatibility with aur rpc v5, add
new features and fix tons of bugs :
https://github.com/archlinuxfr/package-query/releases/tag/1.8


yaourt 1.7 is (or should be) compatible with package-query 1.8. A new
version of yaourt will follow in a few days :)



Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
On Monday, 29 February 2016 22:10:00 IST Rafael Fontenelle wrote:
> yaourt 1.7 is (or should be) compatible with package-query 1.8. A new
> version of yaourt will follow in a few days :)

Thank you. I guess I will be using pacaur for a few days then. 

-- 
Cheers
Jayesh Badwaik


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Rafael Fontenelle
2016-02-29 21:03 GMT-03:00 Jayesh Badwaik :

> Hi,
>
> I am no longer to view any AUR packages using either packer or yaourt. Is
> anybody else facing the same problems?
>
> $ yaourt -Ss visit
> community/visitors 0.7-4
> A very fast web log analyzer
> $
>
>
> --
> Jayesh Badwaik
>


The maintainer of package-query already solved the issue, and post the
following comment:

Skunnyk commented on 2016-02-29 20:43


Released package-query 1.8 : it fix the compatibility with aur rpc v5, add
new features and fix tons of bugs :
https://github.com/archlinuxfr/package-query/releases/tag/1.8


yaourt 1.7 is (or should be) compatible with package-query 1.8. A new
version of yaourt will follow in a few days :)


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 02/29/2016 07:03 PM, Jayesh Badwaik wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am no longer to view any AUR packages using either packer or yaourt. Is 
> anybody else facing the same problems? 
> 
> $ yaourt -Ss visit
> community/visitors 0.7-4
> A very fast web log analyzer
> $
> 
> 


Update package-query and any other programs that don't support the AUR
RPC v5 API.

-- 
Eli Schwartz


Re: [arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Jonathan Fosburgh
I saw the same thing earlier today. cower and pacaur were working, however.

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Jayesh Badwaik
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am no longer to view any AUR packages using either packer or yaourt. Is
> anybody else facing the same problems?
>
> $ yaourt -Ss visit
> community/visitors 0.7-4
> A very fast web log analyzer
> $
>
>
> --
> Jayesh Badwaik



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And the end of all our exploring
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And know the place for the first time.
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[arch-general] AUR Packages no longer visible from Archlinux

2016-02-29 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
Hi,

I am no longer to view any AUR packages using either packer or yaourt. Is 
anybody else facing the same problems? 

$ yaourt -Ss visit
community/visitors 0.7-4
A very fast web log analyzer
$


-- 
Jayesh Badwaik