[arch-general] New Using AUR
I had two questions about using the AUR. I have never done it before and read of the How-To on the Wiki but could someone please answer the following two questions I have: 1. If I build a tarball on 'PC1' downloaded from AUR with the 'makepkg -s' command, can I then transfer the created tarball to 'PC2' and install it even though PC2 didn't have any of the required packages used to create the tarball from the AUR? 2. Once a package is installed from the AUR, when I do a system upgrade via Pacman, will outdated packages I installed via AUR get automatically upgraded or do I have to do all my AUR packages manually?
Re: [arch-general] New Using AUR
Am oder ungefähr am Mittwoch, 24. März 2010, schrieb Carlos Mennens: I had two questions about using the AUR. I have never done it before and read of the How-To on the Wiki but could someone please answer the following two questions I have: Hi Carlos! 1. If I build a tarball on 'PC1' downloaded from AUR with the 'makepkg -s' command, can I then transfer the created tarball to 'PC2' and install it even though PC2 didn't have any of the required packages used to create the tarball from the AUR? There are two different types of dependencies defined for packages in the AUR: build time dependencies are needed to build a package using some PKGBUILD, package dependencies are required to run the program that is contained in the package. The first type of dependency is not needed on PC2, the second type will be needed and will be installed by pacman if you install the package from the tarball on PC2. 2. Once a package is installed from the AUR, when I do a system upgrade via Pacman, will outdated packages I installed via AUR get automatically upgraded or do I have to do all my AUR packages manually? This is something pacman itself cannot do. However there are some wrapper scripts for pacman that can do this. One is called yaourt and can be found on the aur. I myself have written a small script that checks all installed packages (including those from the AUR) for updates but does not do any automatic update attempt like yaourt does. If you’d like to check it out it can be found at http://edgar-kalkowski.de/aurupdate. I hope this helps! :) Edgar signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [arch-general] New Using AUR
On 03/24/2010 09:34 AM, Carlos Mennens wrote: 2. Once a package is installed from the AUR, when I do a system upgrade via Pacman, will outdated packages I installed via AUR get automatically upgraded or do I have to do all my AUR packages manually? Pacman does not upgrade AUR packages. Only packages from core, extra, or community. So you need to manually update AUR packages. So what you should do is create an account for yourself on the AUR, then log in to the site, go to the page for that package, and click notify. Then you'll be notified when new messages appear on that package's AUR page - and so you'll find out when the PKGBUILD has been upgraded to a new version. DR
Re: [arch-general] New Using AUR
you should take a look at packer, or yaourt
both of them are (AUR) package manager, dealing with both pacman *and* AUR
repositories.
packer is not perfect (we can not just do -Sy, but have to -Syu, for
example)
but yaourt is very slow (other programming language, don't know exactly, but
even on a core i7, it's shocking to see how long it took to do simple
things...)
so... make your choice :)
Samuel Martín Moro
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On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:24 PM, David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.netwrote:
re, extra, or community.
Re: [arch-general] New Using AUR
Am Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:24:23 -0400 schrieb David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net: Pacman does not upgrade AUR packages. Only packages from core, extra, or community. So you need to manually update AUR packages. Those dependencies need to be built and installed on PC1 from AUR before the main AUR package is built anyway. So they can also be moved to PC2 as binary packages and should be installed automatically by pacman when the main package is installed on PC2. So what you should do is create an account for yourself on the AUR, then log in to the site, go to the page for that package, and click notify. Then you'll be notified when new messages appear on that package's AUR page - and so you'll find out when the PKGBUILD has been upgraded to a new version. Usually you're not informed by the notify feature when an AUR package is updated, because most maintainers don't write comments, when they update their package. So you should use one of the wrapper scripts like yaourt, aurbuild etc. to search for updates. Heiko
Re: [arch-general] New Using AUR
On 24.03.2010 16:24, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 03/24/2010 09:34 AM, Carlos Mennens wrote: 2. Once a package is installed from the AUR, when I do a system upgrade via Pacman, will outdated packages I installed via AUR get automatically upgraded or do I have to do all my AUR packages manually? You can always install yaourt and upgrade packages with yaourt -Syu –-aur Priit
Re: [arch-general] New Using AUR
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 17:17, Priit Kivisoo pr...@kivisoo.eu wrote: On 24.03.2010 16:24, David Rosenstrauch wrote: On 03/24/2010 09:34 AM, Carlos Mennens wrote: 2. Once a package is installed from the AUR, when I do a system upgrade via Pacman, will outdated packages I installed via AUR get automatically upgraded or do I have to do all my AUR packages manually? You can always install yaourt and upgrade packages with yaourt -Syu –-aur Priit Or, you can install packer (in aur) and do a packer -Syu
Re: [arch-general] New Using AUR
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:34:27AM -0400, Carlos Mennens wrote: 2. Once a package is installed from the AUR, when I do a system upgrade via Pacman, will outdated packages I installed via AUR get automatically upgraded or do I have to do all my AUR packages manually? Some people have mentioned yaourt and other tools to automate this, but yaourt is extremly slow. I'd recommend you try clyde (it's in AUR). It's in early stages, but it can be used just like pacman, and handles AUR, and AUR dependencies if a package is not found in the official repos. -- Helgi Kristvin Sigurbjarnarson helgikrs (at) gmail (dot) com pgpdOrtJRbtg1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] New Using AUR
2. Once a package is installed from the AUR, when I do a system upgrade via Pacman, will outdated packages I installed via AUR get automatically upgraded or do I have to do all my AUR packages manually? You can always install yaourt and upgrade packages with yaourt -Syu –-aur Priit Or, you can install packer (in aur) and do a packer -Syu In short: - pacman does not provide such functionality - there are other utilities (pacman/aur helpers) that do provide this functionality. Check the wiki or 'community contribution'-section on the forum for all of them.
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:34:01 +0100, Samuel Martín Moro faus...@gmail.com wrote: but yaourt is very slow (other programming language, don't know exactly, but even on a core i7, it's shocking to see how long it took to do simple things...) It used to be slow mainly because it did a lot of parsing with Bash and Unix tools. Its experimental branch [1] relies on a new, external tool in C and is much faster. [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=35479
