Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Sebastián Pedersen

On 16-04-2016 04:03 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

If needed, I switch between those drivers:

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
### Available Driver options are:-
Driver  "radeon"
#Driver "nvidia"
#Driver "nv"
#Driver "nouveau"
#Driver "vesa"

Vesa is the last resort, only good to see something on the screen, if
anything else is broken. Apart from that I use different cards and
drivers depending on what does cause the less issues, regarding audio
real-time abilities.


Yeah, I have this video card:

[sebas@parabolaSebas64 ~]$ lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 
771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)


and only the vesa and fbdev drivers seems to work.


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
If needed, I switch between those drivers:

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
### Available Driver options are:-
Driver  "radeon"
#Driver "nvidia"
#Driver "nv"
#Driver "nouveau"
#Driver "vesa"

Vesa is the last resort, only good to see something on the screen, if
anything else is broken. Apart from that I use different cards and
drivers depending on what does cause the less issues, regarding audio
real-time abilities.


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
FWIW, did you check the BIOS settings? The search engine mentions a
BIOS "Video Off Method" when I searched regarding a broken relay :D.


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Sebastián Pedersen

On 16-04-2016 03:39 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:31:19 -0300, Sebastián Pedersen wrote:

I would be surprise if any other application is overwriting the DPMS
configuration.


No app does, I'm lacking in concentration at the moment ;). I'm sorry.
What is reported by "xset -q" are the really used values, no ifs, no
buts, no overwriting. Something is fishy, hopefully somebody else could
chime in.


No problem. Much appreciate your help.

I just did an strange experiment: use the vesa driver instead of the 
fbdev and the DPMS work just fine.
Sop figure out that is a driver related problem. Something isn't working 
with DPMS and the fbdev driver for the Xorg.
Unfortunaly the vesa driver does not quiet well work out with my video 
card, so thats why I use the fbdev driver.


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:31:19 -0300, Sebastián Pedersen wrote:
>I would be surprise if any other application is overwriting the DPMS
>configuration.

No app does, I'm lacking in concentration at the moment ;). I'm sorry.
What is reported by "xset -q" are the really used values, no ifs, no
buts, no overwriting. Something is fishy, hopefully somebody else could
chime in.


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Oops ;)

Here "timeout" aka blanking, is earlier than "Standby".

Pardon and I'm quiet now ;).


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Sebastián Pedersen

On 16-04-2016 03:20 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:07:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:00:49 -0300, Sebastián Pedersen wrote:

[sebas@parabolaSebas64 ~]$ xset -q
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 600Suspend: 600Off: 600
  DPMS is Enabled
  Monitor is On


[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ xset -q
DPMS (Energy Star):
 Standby: 600Suspend: 0Off: 3000
 DPMS is Enabled
 Monitor is On


My apologies for that much PS mails.

Perhaps it's an issue to have equal values?

Try Standby: 500Suspend: 0Off: 600


No problem for the amount of mails. Any help is most welcome.

The driver is fbdev and is configured in xorg.conf

I already try different values of Standby, Suspend and Off and didn't 
work.


I'm using i3 wm so xscreensaver is not even installed. I3 is kind of 
minimalistic so I would be surprise if any other application is 
overwriting the DPMS configuration.


Well thanks a lot.

Unfortunaly I'm running out of ideas...

Cheers,
Sebas


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:07:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:00:49 -0300, Sebastián Pedersen wrote:
>>[sebas@parabolaSebas64 ~]$ xset -q
>>DPMS (Energy Star):
>>   Standby: 600Suspend: 600Off: 600
>>   DPMS is Enabled
>>   Monitor is On  
>
>[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ xset -q
>DPMS (Energy Star):
>  Standby: 600Suspend: 0Off: 3000
>  DPMS is Enabled
>  Monitor is On

My apologies for that much PS mails.

Perhaps it's an issue to have equal values?

Try Standby: 500Suspend: 0Off: 600


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:00:49 -0300, Sebastián Pedersen wrote:
>[sebas@parabolaSebas64 ~]$ xset -q
>Keyboard Control:
>   auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  0002
>   XKB indicators:
> 00: Caps Lock:   off01: Num Lock:on 02: Scroll Lock:
> off 03: Compose: off04: Kana:off05: Sleep:
> off 06: Suspend: off07: Mute:off08: Misc:
> off 09: Mail:off10: Charging:off11: Shift Lock:
> off 12: Group 2: off13: Mouse Keys:  off
>   auto repeat delay:  660repeat rate:  25
>   auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
> fadfffefffed
> 9fff
> fff7
>   bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
>Pointer Control:
>   acceleration:  2/1threshold:  4
>Screen Saver:
>   prefer blanking:  yesallow exposures:  yes
>   timeout:  600cycle:  600
>Colors:
>   default colormap:  0x20BlackPixel:  0x0WhitePixel:  0xff
>Font Path:
>   
>/usr/share/fonts/misc/,/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,/usr/share/fonts/OTF/,/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,built-ins
>DPMS (Energy Star):
>   Standby: 600Suspend: 600Off: 600
>   DPMS is Enabled
>   Monitor is On

JFTR the complete output, used with the open source ATI driver. Suspend
and cycle are set to 0 here.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ xset -q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  onkey click percent:  0LED mask:  0002
  XKB indicators:
00: Caps Lock:   off01: Num Lock:on 02: Scroll Lock: off
03: Compose: off04: Kana:off05: Sleep:   off
06: Suspend: off07: Mute:off08: Misc:off
09: Mail:off10: Charging:off11: Shift Lock:  off
12: Group 2: off13: Mouse Keys:  off
  auto repeat delay:  660repeat rate:  25
  auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
fadfffefffed
9fff
fff7
  bell percent:  50bell pitch:  400bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  2/1threshold:  4
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yesallow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  540cycle:  0
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20BlackPixel:  0x0WhitePixel:  0xff
Font Path:
  
/usr/share/fonts/misc/,/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,/usr/share/fonts/OTF/,/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,built-ins
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 600Suspend: 0Off: 3000
  DPMS is Enabled
  Monitor is On


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:00:49 -0300, Sebastián Pedersen wrote:
>Off: 600

Hmm?

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v "#"
Driver  "radeon"

Perhaps a driver issue.


Re: [arch-general] DPMS not working with fbdev driver

2016-04-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ensure that nothing overwrites the settings, e.g. xscreensaver,
xfce4-power-manager or anything else. I set up

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "BlankTime" "0"
Option "StandbyTime" "0"
Option "SuspendTime" "0"
Option "OffTime" "0"
EndSection

by xorg.conf and then use xscreensaver-command or
xfce4-power-manager-settings or xset dpms force && xset to set up the
wanted values, when the CRT-Monitor should go to sleep.

For my openbox Arch Linux I use xfce4-power-manager.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ xset q | grep -A2 "Screen Saver:"
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yesallow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  540cycle:  0
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ xset q | grep -A3 "DPMS (Energy Star):"
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 600Suspend: 0Off: 3000
  DPMS is Enabled
  Monitor is On

The monitor is turned off after a while. However, I have different
Linux installs and IMO xfce4-power-manager isn't the best choice.
However, I have no issues with using different xfce4-power-manager or
xscreensaver profiles, but I'm lazy, so my momentarily scripts aren't a
pleasure to read.

Maybe this does help:

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$
cat .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml



  






  



Re: [arch-general] dpms in text mode worked 1st boot, now monitor blanks but won't power off

2013-12-04 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM, David C. Rankin <
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:

> [08:51 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # rmmod nvidia
> [08:51 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # lsmod | grep nv
> [08:51 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # modprobe nouveau
> [08:52 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # lsmod | grep no
> nouveau   904630  1
> ttm63411  1 nouveau
> drm_kms_helper 36286  1 nouveau
> i2c_algo_bit5399  1 nouveau
> drm   238206  3 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
> mxm_wmi 1475  1 nouveau
> video  11196  1 nouveau
> i2c_core   24164  6
> drm,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,adt7475,nouveau,i2c_nforce2
> wmi 8419  2 mxm_wmi,nouveau
> button  4677  1 nouveau
>
>   That's it! Monitor powered off after 1 min. But that begs the question,
> why
> doesn't console poweroff work with the nvidia driver? Doe the driver lack
> the
> capability? --or-- do the same associations (ttm, drm_kms_helper, etc..)
> just
> need to be made with the nvidia driver? If so, how?
>
>   For now, the easiest solution is just to remove the nvidia driver and
> make
> sure the nouveau driver is loaded on boot. However, if I decide to use the
> nvidia driver in the future, then I'm back in the same boat again. So, is
> there
> anyway to make the console poweroff work with the nvidia driver?
>
>
Well, the proprietary nvidia is known for focusing on X, the console has
been neglected, no KMS, basic DPMS, it seems...

The OS nouveau driver, however is doing things properly, if you have the
luck that your hw is supported. Nouveau -> more features, less performance.
Nvidia -> less features, more performance. Pick one.

Now, if you want to switch between them without rebooting, you can try to
remove one driver and modprobe the other. I wouldn't bet on the stability
of your kernel, though.

A safer solution would be to create two entries in the boot menu (grub or
whatever): one will blacklist nouveau, the other will blacklist nvidia.
With a bit of work you can even switch the mesa/libgl links to point to the
proper versions!

Best regards.
-- 
Rodrigo


Re: [arch-general] dpms in text mode worked 1st boot, now monitor blanks but won't power off

2013-12-04 Thread David C. Rankin
On 12/04/2013 05:15 AM, Rodrigo Rivas wrote:

> 
> Well, that certainly is a difference. The nvidia package includes the file
>  `/usr/lib/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf` that contains the line `blacklist
> nouveau`. That's necessary because if the nouveau driver is loaded first,
> then the nvidia one cannot work properly.
> 
> But you are not loading X, so I'm guessing that your nvidia driver is not
> being loaded either (the kernel driver is probed by the X driver IIRC), so
> you are running with the default vesa console.
> 
> You can try running `modprobe nvidia` and see if it makes a difference. If
> that's not the case, reboot and run `modprobe nouveau`.
> 
> Or maybe I'm wrong and the nvidia driver is being loaded automatically. If
> that's true, you can try blacklisting it and modprobing nouveau.
> 
> Best regards
> 

Rodrigo,

  You are on to something here. The nvidia module is loaded automatically, but
there is no X running:

08:42 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # lsmod | grep nv
nvidia  10573185  0
drm   238206  1 nvidia
i2c_core   24164  3 drm,nvidia,i2c_nforce2

[08:46 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # ps ax | grep X
 5628 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep X

  So what you are saying is that the nvidia module is causing the problem with
the console DPMS poweroff behavior?

[08:51 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # rmmod nvidia
[08:51 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # lsmod | grep nv
[08:51 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # modprobe nouveau
[08:52 phoinix:/etc/clamav] # lsmod | grep no
nouveau   904630  1
ttm63411  1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper 36286  1 nouveau
i2c_algo_bit5399  1 nouveau
drm   238206  3 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
mxm_wmi 1475  1 nouveau
video  11196  1 nouveau
i2c_core   24164  6
drm,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,adt7475,nouveau,i2c_nforce2
wmi 8419  2 mxm_wmi,nouveau
button  4677  1 nouveau

  That's it! Monitor powered off after 1 min. But that begs the question, why
doesn't console poweroff work with the nvidia driver? Doe the driver lack the
capability? --or-- do the same associations (ttm, drm_kms_helper, etc..) just
need to be made with the nvidia driver? If so, how?

  For now, the easiest solution is just to remove the nvidia driver and make
sure the nouveau driver is loaded on boot. However, if I decide to use the
nvidia driver in the future, then I'm back in the same boat again. So, is there
anyway to make the console poweroff work with the nvidia driver?

-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.


Re: [arch-general] dpms in text mode worked 1st boot, now monitor blanks but won't power off

2013-12-04 Thread Rodrigo Rivas
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:43 AM, David C. Rankin <
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:

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> On 12/03/2013 12:51 PM, Jakub Klinkovský wrote:
> > I use 'consoleblank=' kernel parameter to set the delay. See
> also
> > ArchWiki page:
> >
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with_setterm
> >
>
> Thanks Jakub,
>
>   I have tried:
>
> # setterm -blank 1
> # setterm -powerdown 1
> # setterm -powersave hsync (waited - did not poweroff moniter, just
> blanked)
> # setterm -powersave powerdown (same thing - no poweroff)
>
>
>   So I am at a loss as to how it worked on the first boot and now no longer
> worked. I read:
>
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with_setterm
>
> http://webpages.charter.net/dperr/dpms.htm
>
> and so far I have not found a way to repeat the poweroff that worked on
> first boot.
>
> I did install the nvidia package for future use, which pulled in
> xorg-server as
> a dependency, but X is not started. I don't see why that would influence
> console
> behavior.
>

Well, that certainly is a difference. The nvidia package includes the file
 `/usr/lib/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf` that contains the line `blacklist
nouveau`. That's necessary because if the nouveau driver is loaded first,
then the nvidia one cannot work properly.

But you are not loading X, so I'm guessing that your nvidia driver is not
being loaded either (the kernel driver is probed by the X driver IIRC), so
you are running with the default vesa console.

You can try running `modprobe nvidia` and see if it makes a difference. If
that's not the case, reboot and run `modprobe nouveau`.

Or maybe I'm wrong and the nvidia driver is being loaded automatically. If
that's true, you can try blacklisting it and modprobing nouveau.

Best regards
-- 
Rodrigo.


Re: [arch-general] dpms in text mode worked 1st boot, now monitor blanks but won't power off

2013-12-03 Thread David C. Rankin
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On 12/03/2013 12:51 PM, Jakub Klinkovský wrote:
> I use 'consoleblank=' kernel parameter to set the delay. See also
> ArchWiki page:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with_setterm
> 

Thanks Jakub,

  I have tried:

# setterm -blank 1
# setterm -powerdown 1
# setterm -powersave hsync (waited - did not poweroff moniter, just blanked)
# setterm -powersave powerdown (same thing - no poweroff)


  So I am at a loss as to how it worked on the first boot and now no longer
worked. I read:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with_setterm

http://webpages.charter.net/dperr/dpms.htm

and so far I have not found a way to repeat the poweroff that worked on first 
boot.

I did install the nvidia package for future use, which pulled in xorg-server as
a dependency, but X is not started. I don't see why that would influence console
behavior.

If anybody has any additional information, I thank you in advance.

- -- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
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Re: [arch-general] dpms in text mode worked 1st boot, now monitor blanks but won't power off

2013-12-03 Thread Jakub Klinkovský
On 03.12.13 at  8:18, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Guys,
> 
>   On my 1st boot after install of a new Arch box, the monitor would go to 
> sleep
> in text mode. (monitor power light goes to yellow indicating sleep and screen
> goes black (off), not just blank) I thought that was a great trick, since
> normally, the screen just blanks, but the monitor doesn't really go to sleep
> (monitor power indicator on). Mouse movement (gpm) or key stroke would wake 
> the
> monitor up as expected. After configuring the box (nothing related to display)
> on the next boot, the screen will blank, but not go to sleep (monitor power
> light remains on and screen goes blank, but not black (off))
> 
>   I can't figure out what I could have done to alter anything related to the
> display. (configuration was to mysql, httpd, named, dhcpd, samba, etc)
> 
>   What controls whether display powers off in text mode and what can I check 
> for
> in journalctl to help figure this out?
> 
> -- 
> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

I use 'consoleblank=' kernel parameter to set the delay. See also
ArchWiki page:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#DPMS_interaction_in_a_Linux_console_with_setterm

---
Jakub Klinkovský (Lahwaacz)


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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-11 Thread P Nikolic
On Saturday 11 Feb 2012 20:36:56 Damjan wrote:
> > Morning folk
> > 
> > 
> > Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  "xset
> > -dpms"  i am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn
> > screens turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn
> > them off simples
> > 
> > So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time
> 
> /etc/rc.local is *NOT* started in the X session so it can not set X
> parameters
> cron also doesn't start the jobs in the X session
> 
> 
> ~/.xinitrc is only started when running startx
> ~/.xsession is unfortunately not run by most login managers
> 
> What you need is ~/.xprofile which is *sourced* by most login managers
> before running your *DE session.
> That's also a place to export some variables that are inherited in all
> your *DE applications.

Ok i have not had to restart the system yet so it is still on the manual xset 
command 

Pete 

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-11 Thread Damjan
> Morning folk
> 
> 
> Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  "xset -dpms"  
> i 
> am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn screens 
> turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn them off 
> simples 
> 
> So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time 

/etc/rc.local is *NOT* started in the X session so it can not set X
parameters
cron also doesn't start the jobs in the X session


~/.xinitrc is only started when running startx
~/.xsession is unfortunately not run by most login managers

What you need is ~/.xprofile which is *sourced* by most login managers
before running your *DE session.
That's also a place to export some variables that are inherited in all
your *DE applications.



-- 
дамјан


Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 19:04:24 P Nikolic wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 17:22:44 Madeye wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:46:52 +
> > 
> > P Nikolic  wrote:
> > > On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 20:19:06 gt wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
> > > > > > How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?
> > > > > 
> > > > > i use KDM
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make
> > > > it use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
> > > > ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.
> > > 
> > > Humm well that dont work either  .
> > > 
> > > think the easiest way is going to be get rid of KDM and use startkde
> > > or something   having looked at kdmrc i dont think i can stick it in
> > > there  this is becoming a spoiler ..
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Pete .
> > 
> > Have you tried putting it in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
> > That should be the way to do it with kdm, at least according to this
> > webpage:
> > http://maketecheasier.com/run-startup-scripts-in-kdm-before-kde-starts/201
> > 1/ 12/15
> 
> Hi ..
> 
> I will give it a try   see what happens
> 
> Pete .

Right after a bit of hunting   the location is   /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsetup
I have added it will see what happens next reboot


Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 17:22:44 Madeye wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:46:52 +
> 
> P Nikolic  wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 20:19:06 gt wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
> > > > > How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?
> > > > 
> > > > i use KDM
> > > 
> > > I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make
> > > it use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
> > > ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.
> > 
> > Humm well that dont work either  .
> > 
> > think the easiest way is going to be get rid of KDM and use startkde
> > or something   having looked at kdmrc i dont think i can stick it in
> > there  this is becoming a spoiler ..
> > 
> > 
> > Pete .
> 
> Have you tried putting it in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
> That should be the way to do it with kdm, at least according to this
> webpage:
> http://maketecheasier.com/run-startup-scripts-in-kdm-before-kde-starts/2011/
> 12/15

Hi ..

I will give it a try   see what happens 

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread Madeye
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:46:52 +
P Nikolic  wrote:

> On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 20:19:06 gt wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> > > On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
> > > > How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?
> > > 
> > > i use KDM
> > 
> > I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make
> > it use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
> > ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.
> 
> 
> Humm well that dont work either  .
> 
> think the easiest way is going to be get rid of KDM and use startkde
> or something   having looked at kdmrc i dont think i can stick it in
> there  this is becoming a spoiler ..
> 
> 
> Pete .
> 

Have you tried putting it in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
That should be the way to do it with kdm, at least according to this
webpage:
http://maketecheasier.com/run-startup-scripts-in-kdm-before-kde-starts/2011/12/15

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 20:19:06 gt wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
> > > How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?
> > 
> > i use KDM
> 
> I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make it
> use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
> ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.


Humm well that dont work either  .

think the easiest way is going to be get rid of KDM and use startkde or 
something   having looked at kdmrc i dont think i can stick it in there  this 
is becoming a spoiler ..


Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread gt
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
> > How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?
> i use KDM   
 
I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make it
use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread Sander Jansen
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:37 AM, P Nikolic  wrote:
> Morning folk
>
>
> Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  "xset -dpms"  
> i
> am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn screens
> turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn them off 
> simples
>
> So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time
>

You can set defaults in xorg.conf. See man xorg.conf

Sander


Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread Lennart Andersen
* P Nikolic  [2012-02-09 09:37+]
> Morning folk
> 
> 
> Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  "xset -dpms"  
> i 
> am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn screens 
> turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn them off 
> simples 
> 
> So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Pete .
> 
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I did not see the other email

If the .xinitrc does not work.try the rc.local.

Len
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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread Lennart Andersen
* P Nikolic  [2012-02-09 09:37+]
> Morning folk
> 
> 
> Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  "xset -dpms"  
> i 
> am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn screens 
> turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn them off 
> simples 
> 
> So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Pete .
> 
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Hi Pete,

I think you could use the .xinitrc for this

.xinitrc 
xset s off
xset -dpms

Lennart

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 09:59:44AM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 10:54:15 Christoph Vigano wrote:
> > > On 02/09/2012 10:37 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every
> > > > time
> > > 
> > > you could always put settings like these into your $HOME/.xinitrc,
> > > that's where I have stored those settings.
> > 
> > Hi Christoph
> > 
> > I have tried in there it just gets ignored i know in the suse world i used
> > to put it there  but cant get it to behave on Arch which is a pity
> > because  Arch is far better in almost every other way ..
> 
> How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?


i use KDM   


Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread gt
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 09:59:44AM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 10:54:15 Christoph Vigano wrote:
> > On 02/09/2012 10:37 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
> > > 
> > >
> > > So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time
> > 
> > you could always put settings like these into your $HOME/.xinitrc,
> > that's where I have stored those settings.
> 
> Hi Christoph
> 
> I have tried in there it just gets ignored i know in the suse world i used to 
> put it there  but cant get it to behave on Arch which is a pity because  Arch 
> is far better in almost every other way ..

How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread P Nikolic
On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 10:54:15 Christoph Vigano wrote:
> On 02/09/2012 10:37 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
> > Morning folk
> > 
> > 
> > Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  "xset
> > -dpms"  i am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn
> > screens turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn
> > them off simples
> > 
> > So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Pete .
> 
> Hi Pete,
> 
> you could always put settings like these into your $HOME/.xinitrc,
> that's where I have stored those settings.
> 
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Hi Christoph

I have tried in there it just gets ignored i know in the suse world i used to 
put it there  but cant get it to behave on Arch which is a pity because  Arch 
is far better in almost every other way ..

Pete .

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

2012-02-09 Thread Christoph Vigano
On 02/09/2012 10:37 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
> Morning folk
> 
> 
> Back to this one again   i need to find a working position for  "xset -dpms"  
> i 
> am getting sick and tired of every time i reboot i get the darn screens 
> turning off i hate that with vengance  if i wqnt them off i turn them off 
> simples 
> 
> So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Pete .
> 

Hi Pete,

you could always put settings like these into your $HOME/.xinitrc,
that's where I have stored those settings.

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