Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Moritz Bunkus]

…and I screwed up the subject. Sorry for that; I wasn't subscribed and
tried to stitch the reply to the thread properly. And I've failed,
obviously :(

Kind regards,
mosu


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Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Moritz Bunkus]

Hey,

> I tried to use apps:mkvtoolnix-gui to build only that one the second time
> around. While it works in build(), invoking drake install in install()
> seems to ignore the argument and goes on to build everything else before
> installing.

That's correct. »install« is the generic »install everything that's been
configured« target. It therefore depends on all the build targets for
the configured components.

Note that several things are only installed by the »install« target if
the package has been compiled with GUI support, including but not
limited to:

- the mkvtoolnix-gui.1 man page and its translations
- the icons
- the .desktop files
- the MIME files

Basically it's easier to run »install« from a GUI-enabled build for
packaging purposes, I guess.

Like I said, if you don't need mkvinfo's Qt GUI I still recommend you
build the whole package once with GUI enabled, run »drake install« for
that, and compile only mkvinfo with the GUI disabled (»drake
apps:mkvinfo«). You can throw away the GUI-enabled mkvinfo binary. The
PKGBUILD will be simpler to write than if you try to only build
mkvtoolnix-gui and install all the things manually instead of just using
»drake install«.

Kind regards,
mosu


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Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Maxime Gauduin]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Benjamin Robin  wrote:

> There is a problem with your PKGBUILD. The build performances set aside.
> The PKGBUILD [1] provided in the bug report is built much faster.
>
>
There's no difference here, and there shouldn't be anyway, drake can be
multithreaded make-style with the -j flag or by setting the env variable
like it's currently done. Make-style happens to look neater, and the number
of threads is configured by the user instead of being hardcoded in the
PKGBUILD.


> You try to be able to install mkvtoolnix-qt alone without the
> mkvtoolnix-cli package, right ?
>

Hmm, no?


> Well this cannot work since mkvtoolnix-qt needs the locale/translation.
>
>
You don't say. Read the depends array once more.


> And since mkvtoolnix-cli *must* be a dependency of mkvtoolnix-qt,
> there is no point to have the manual mkvinfo-gui.1 which is identical
> to mkvinfo.1. You can if you want create a symbolic link.


Indeed, in that case I'd rather get rid of the duplicates. If it were up to
me, I wouldn't even package the Qt-enabled mkvinfo, the GUI doesn't bring
anyhting more compared to the CLI tool, and if people need a GUI, I would
highly recommend MediaInfo instead.


>
> [1] http://pastebin.com/rtguGrbR
>
> > @Benjamin: Feel free to give the diff a spin before we push it, it's
> working
> > fine here, the only gripe I have with the new GUI is that the left
> toolbar
> > is completely black, but that may just be because my desktop is powered
> by
> > GNOME.
>

--
Maxime

Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Benjamin Robin]

> There's no difference here, and there shouldn't be anyway

In the PKGBUILD the first "drake" doesn't build everything:
./drake apps:mkvinfo  != ./drake

>> You try to be able to install mkvtoolnix-qt alone without the
>> mkvtoolnix-cli package, right ?
>
> Hmm, no?
> You don't say. Read the depends array once more.

Oops, sorry, I should have read the PKGBUILD more than once.

> Indeed, in that case I'd rather get rid of the duplicates. If it were up to
> me, I wouldn't even package the Qt-enabled mkvinfo, the GUI doesn't bring
> anyhting more compared to the CLI tool, and if people need a GUI, I would
> highly recommend MediaInfo instead.

I cannot say that I am not agree :-)

Benjamin

Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Maxime Gauduin]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 9:52 PM Benjamin Robin  wrote:

> There's no difference here, and there shouldn't be anyway

In the PKGBUILD the first "drake" doesn't build everything:
./drake apps:mkvinfo  != ./drake


>> You try to be able to install mkvtoolnix-qt alone without the
>> mkvtoolnix-cli package, right ?
>
> Hmm, no?
> You don't say. Read the depends array once more.

Oops, sorry, I should have read the PKGBUILD more than once.

> Indeed, in that case I'd rather get rid of the duplicates. If it were up
to
> me, I wouldn't even package the Qt-enabled mkvinfo, the GUI doesn't bring
> anyhting more compared to the CLI tool, and if people need a GUI, I would
> highly recommend MediaInfo instead.

I cannot say that I am not agree :-)

Benjamin


Oh, I thought you were talking about the multithreading. I guess that trick
can be used to do things the other way around and build only mkvtoolnix-gui
in the second build folder. I'll have a look tomorrow and remove
mkvinfo-gui, I guess most people will agree that it's unnecessary to
package it.


Cheers,
--
Maxime

Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Maxime Gauduin]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Benjamin Robin  wrote:

> Hello Giovanni Scafora,
>
> I am trying to contact you about the bug reports opened about the
> mkvtoolnix package. Please see the email below posted on the mailing list.
>
> Thank you,
> Benjamin
>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We do have trouble with some bug reports [1], [2] and [3].
> >> The maintainer (Giovanni Scafora) does not answer, nor update the
> >> PKGBUILD. In the last bug report [3] we kindly offer a working example
> of
> >> PKGBUILD which fix the problem : bring back the GUI (Qt5 instead of Gtk)
> >> The first bug report [1] is more than 4 years old without any respond...
> >>
> >> What do we need to do to resolve this issue ?
> >>
> >> [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24532
> >> [2] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44948
> >> [3] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/45439
>
>
> > Antonio Rojas wrote:
> > Have you tried directly emailing the maintainer?
>

Hi all,

@Giovanni: being a somewhat heavy user of mkvtoolnix myself I'd like to
co-maintain mkvtoolnix with you. I rewrote most of the PKGBUILD, here are
the changes I'd iike to push [1], I chose to name the Qt-enabled mkvinfo
binary mkvinfo-gui to mirror how the main GUI is named. Also, as Moritz
Bunkus pointed out, it appears all current workarounds can be removed.
Please let me know what you think.

@Benjamin: Feel free to give the diff a spin before we push it, it's
working fine here, the only gripe I have with the new GUI is that the left
toolbar is completely black, but that may just be because my desktop is
powered by GNOME.

[1] https://paste.xinu.at/oX2o/

Cheers,
--
Maxime

Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Bruno Pagani]

Le 28/09/2015 22:12, Maxime Gauduin a écrit :
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Benjamin Robin  wrote:
>
>> Hello Giovanni Scafora,
>>
>> I am trying to contact you about the bug reports opened about the
>> mkvtoolnix package. Please see the email below posted on the mailing list.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Benjamin
>>
 Hi,

 We do have trouble with some bug reports [1], [2] and [3].
 The maintainer (Giovanni Scafora) does not answer, nor update the
 PKGBUILD. In the last bug report [3] we kindly offer a working example
>> of
 PKGBUILD which fix the problem : bring back the GUI (Qt5 instead of Gtk)
 The first bug report [1] is more than 4 years old without any respond...

 What do we need to do to resolve this issue ?

 [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24532
 [2] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44948
 [3] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/45439
>>
>>> Antonio Rojas wrote:
>>> Have you tried directly emailing the maintainer?
> Hi all,
>
> @Giovanni: being a somewhat heavy user of mkvtoolnix myself I'd like to
> co-maintain mkvtoolnix with you. I rewrote most of the PKGBUILD, here are
> the changes I'd iike to push [1], I chose to name the Qt-enabled mkvinfo
> binary mkvinfo-gui to mirror how the main GUI is named. Also, as Moritz
> Bunkus pointed out, it appears all current workarounds can be removed.
> Please let me know what you think.
>
> @Benjamin: Feel free to give the diff a spin before we push it, it's
> working fine here, the only gripe I have with the new GUI is that the left
> toolbar is completely black, but that may just be because my desktop is
> powered by GNOME.
>
> [1] https://paste.xinu.at/oX2o/
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Maxime

Tested here, build fine (although I was surprised by the amount of time
required), but the left toolbar background is also completely black here
under KDE/Plasma 5.

Bruno



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Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Benjamin Robin]

Hello Giovanni Scafora,

I am trying to contact you about the bug reports opened about the
mkvtoolnix package. Please see the email below posted on the mailing list.

Thank you,
Benjamin

>> Hi,
>>
>> We do have trouble with some bug reports [1], [2] and [3].
>> The maintainer (Giovanni Scafora) does not answer, nor update the
>> PKGBUILD. In the last bug report [3] we kindly offer a working example of
>> PKGBUILD which fix the problem : bring back the GUI (Qt5 instead of Gtk)
>> The first bug report [1] is more than 4 years old without any respond...
>>
>> What do we need to do to resolve this issue ?
>>
>> [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24532
>> [2] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44948
>> [3] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/45439


> Antonio Rojas wrote:
> Have you tried directly emailing the maintainer?

Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Antonio Rojas]

Benjamin Robin wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> We do have trouble with some bug reports [1], [2] and [3].
> The maintainer (Giovanni Scafora) does not answer, nor update the
> PKGBUILD. In the last bug report [3] we kindly offer a working example of
> PKGBUILD which fix the problem : bring back the GUI (Qt5 instead of Gtk).
> The first bug report [1] is more than 4 years old without any respond...
> 
> What do we need to do to resolve this issue ?
> 

Have you tried directly emailing the maintainer?

Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Benjamin Robin]

There is a problem with your PKGBUILD. The build performances set aside.
The PKGBUILD [1] provided in the bug report is built much faster.

You try to be able to install mkvtoolnix-qt alone without the
mkvtoolnix-cli package, right ?
Well this cannot work since mkvtoolnix-qt needs the locale/translation.

And since mkvtoolnix-cli *must* be a dependency of mkvtoolnix-qt,
there is no point to have the manual mkvinfo-gui.1 which is identical
to mkvinfo.1. You can if you want create a symbolic link.

[1] http://pastebin.com/rtguGrbR

> @Benjamin: Feel free to give the diff a spin before we push it, it's working
> fine here, the only gripe I have with the new GUI is that the left toolbar
> is completely black, but that may just be because my desktop is powered by
> GNOME.

Re: [arch-general] mkvtoolnix-gtk: The new GUI is missing

[Mohammad_AlSaleh]

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 10:56:39PM +0200, Benjamin Robin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We do have trouble with some bug reports [1], [2] and [3].
> The maintainer (Giovanni Scafora) does not answer, nor update the PKGBUILD.
> In the last bug report [3] we kindly offer a working example of PKGBUILD
> which fix the problem : bring back the GUI (Qt5 instead of Gtk).
> The first bug report [1] is more than 4 years old without any respond...
> 
> What do we need to do to resolve this issue ?
> 
> Thank you,
> Benjamin (benjarobin)
> 
> [1] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24532
> [2] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44948
> [3] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/45439

Thank you for bringing that up.

Moritz Bunkus is the main developer of MKVToolNix. He is an Arch Linux
user. And he complained about this already more than once:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1731211=3458
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1739557=3628