Re: [ARIE-L] Ariel 4.1 -- Ariel Email Address--why use that option?

[ILL_PSC ILL_PSC]

Dear Jody,
 
The Ariel e-mail address is for Ariel libraries whose IT departments won't open 
ports and don't want to put a machine outside of the institutional firewall. 
They can't use the FTP option.
 
It allows Ariel to access a special e-mail account and download Ariel files 
into the received queue. When Ariel finds an e-mail message that isn't an Ariel 
document, it puts the message (as a text file) in the Unknown folder.
 
The outgoing portion of e-mail for Ariel (at least in my case because I use FTP 
mainly) is a regular e-mail account. I set it up this way, so I wouldn't lose 
patron e-mail replies in the Unknown folder. I think originally before patron 
delivery, it was the same as the incoming e-mail server with a specially 
designated "Return e-mail address." But I am not sure, so take it with a grain 
of salt.
 
I do both FTP and e-mail because I figure it helps widen the number of 
libraries I can supply articles to (I like being a net lender) and the number 
of libraries who can supply me with articles.
 
Linda
 
Linda Celet Bane
Interlibrary Loan (PWS/PWSA)
Mary F. Shipper Library/LRC
Potomac State College of WVU
Keyser, WV  26726-2697
phone: (304)788-6903
fax: (304)788-6946
Ariel: 157.182.165.30, psc_ar...@mail.wvu.edu
E-mail: ill_...@mail.wvu.edu

>>> "Mantell, Jody"  Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:37 PM >>>
We are getting ready to do quite a few changes in our ILL office and
activate our Patron Delivery in Ariel a and go to Clio Web as well.
When people talk about an Ariel email address--what exactly is the
purpose of that kind of address?  Is that used by non Ariel users to
send email files to an Ariel address, since,  when you are communicating
from Ariel to Ariel you wouldn't need an email address. I assume it has
to do with keeping files within a closed system or is it easier to email
files to patrons this way?  We have Ariel 4.1.

Thanks for any info ~Jody


Jody Mantell ~ILL Supervisor
Interlibrary Loan ~ Document Delivery Team
Alfred R. Neumann Library
University of Houston~Clear Lake
mantellj...@uhcl.edu   
281.283.3906
UHC



-Original Message-
From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu
[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Joe
Ellison
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System'
Subject: RE: [ARIE-L] configuring Ariel v. 3.4 to send to e-mail
addresses. .

It's been a while since I used 3.4, but this is my best recollection of
the
email checking issue.

3.4 is a bit kludgy if you want to send but not receive Ariel email. The
issue is, if you turn on email, and don't have a dedicated Ariel email
account, every time you check for new mail Ariel takes all the non-Ariel
email received into your account and puts it in a junk folder within the
Ariel folder while also removing it from the server. (It doesn't support
IMAP, only POP3.) Because 3.4 doesn't support turning on send only
(4.1.1
does) the trick here is to enter everything except your password for
receiving. Set the interval at which Ariel should check for email to the
longest possible (I don't believe it will let you leave that space
blank). I
think it was 999 minutes, but I could be mistaken. Then, roughly once a
day
it will prompt you to enter the password so it can check for email. Just
cancel the prompt box, and it will not check for mail. It's not an
elegant
solution, but it works.

Joe Ellison
Document Delivery and Digital Initiatives Assistant
Transportation Library, Northwestern University
phone: (847)491-8600
j-elli...@northwestern.edu


> -Original Message-
> From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-
> boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:13 AM
> To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
> Subject: RE: [ARIE-L] configuring Ariel v. 3.4 to send to e-mail
> addresses. .
> 
> They suggest you set up an email address that is used for Ariel only.
Then
> go to document - settings - email (I think) and add the server
> information, return address, etc., and set up how often emails should
be
> downloaded into Ariel. The articles it finds go into the received
article
> queue as if they were sent to your IP, any other mail goes into the
Ariel
> junk mail folder which is a folder on that computer.
> 
> Edward Helmrich
> Interlibrary Loan Office
> Ryan Library
> Iona College VXI
> 715 North Ave.
> New Rochelle, NY 10801
> 
> From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [arie-l-
> boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of jal...@ucsc.edu
> [jal...@ucsc.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:47 PM
> To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
> Subject: Re: [ARIE-L] configuring Ariel v. 3.4 to send to e-mail
> addresses. .
> 
> Can you tell me what the Mail settings should be in this case?  I
think
> that may be whats hanging us up.  I would love for it to change to
>

[ARIE-L] Ariel 4.1 -- Ariel Email Address--why use that option?

[Mantell, Jody]

We are getting ready to do quite a few changes in our ILL office and
activate our Patron Delivery in Ariel a and go to Clio Web as well.
When people talk about an Ariel email address--what exactly is the
purpose of that kind of address?  Is that used by non Ariel users to
send email files to an Ariel address, since,  when you are communicating
from Ariel to Ariel you wouldn't need an email address. I assume it has
to do with keeping files within a closed system or is it easier to email
files to patrons this way?  We have Ariel 4.1.

Thanks for any info ~Jody


Jody Mantell ~ILL Supervisor
Interlibrary Loan ~ Document Delivery Team
Alfred R. Neumann Library
University of Houston~Clear Lake
mantellj...@uhcl.edu   
281.283.3906
UHC



-Original Message-
From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu
[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Joe
Ellison
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:00 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System'
Subject: RE: [ARIE-L] configuring Ariel v. 3.4 to send to e-mail
addresses. .

It's been a while since I used 3.4, but this is my best recollection of
the
email checking issue.

3.4 is a bit kludgy if you want to send but not receive Ariel email. The
issue is, if you turn on email, and don't have a dedicated Ariel email
account, every time you check for new mail Ariel takes all the non-Ariel
email received into your account and puts it in a junk folder within the
Ariel folder while also removing it from the server. (It doesn't support
IMAP, only POP3.) Because 3.4 doesn't support turning on send only
(4.1.1
does) the trick here is to enter everything except your password for
receiving. Set the interval at which Ariel should check for email to the
longest possible (I don't believe it will let you leave that space
blank). I
think it was 999 minutes, but I could be mistaken. Then, roughly once a
day
it will prompt you to enter the password so it can check for email. Just
cancel the prompt box, and it will not check for mail. It's not an
elegant
solution, but it works.

Joe Ellison
Document Delivery and Digital Initiatives Assistant
Transportation Library, Northwestern University
phone: (847)491-8600
j-elli...@northwestern.edu


> -Original Message-
> From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [mailto:arie-l-
> boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document Delivery
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:13 AM
> To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
> Subject: RE: [ARIE-L] configuring Ariel v. 3.4 to send to e-mail
> addresses. .
> 
> They suggest you set up an email address that is used for Ariel only.
Then
> go to document - settings - email (I think) and add the server
> information, return address, etc., and set up how often emails should
be
> downloaded into Ariel. The articles it finds go into the received
article
> queue as if they were sent to your IP, any other mail goes into the
Ariel
> junk mail folder which is a folder on that computer.
> 
> Edward Helmrich
> Interlibrary Loan Office
> Ryan Library
> Iona College VXI
> 715 North Ave.
> New Rochelle, NY 10801
> 
> From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu [arie-l-
> boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of jal...@ucsc.edu
> [jal...@ucsc.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:47 PM
> To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
> Subject: Re: [ARIE-L] configuring Ariel v. 3.4 to send to e-mail
> addresses. .
> 
> Can you tell me what the Mail settings should be in this case?  I
think
> that may be whats hanging us up.  I would love for it to change to
> "Pending" status but they don't seem to go through...they remain at
> "Ready" status..I believe.
> I wonder if there would be a way to get a screen shot of the proper
> settings
> Anyhow, thanks!
> 
> -Josh
> 
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:19:57 -0600
>   "McDowell, Jenny"  wrote:
> > The few times I have sent an document (using 3.4) to an email
address,
> >it always sits in the send queue as "Pending" I think, but it really
> >has been sent and received. I just manually delete it from the queue.
> >
> > Jenny McDowell
> > Biomedical Library
> > St. Jude Children's Research Hospital
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu
> >[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of
Document
> >Delivery
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:32 PM
> > To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System'
> > Subject: RE: [ARIE-L] configuring Ariel v. 3.4 to send to e-mail
> >addresses. .
> >
> > I think that if someone gives an email address as an Ariel address,
I
> >assume that they have Ariel email (?).
> >If so, it would arrive in their Ariel terminal as if it were sent to
a
> >usual IP address. This has happened to us a few times and the same
> >thing happened, we're not set up for Ariel email (sending an Ariel
file
> >station to station to an email address, not th

[ARIE-L] Northwest ILL Conference Updates!

[Erin S Fisher]

Mark your calendars! The 10th Northwest Interlibrary Loan and Resource Sharing 
Conference will be held in Portland, Oregon on September 15th and 16th, 2011, 
at Portland Community College, Sylvania Campus!

The theme this year is "Going Global While Staying Local." The esteemed 
copyright expert Dr. Kenneth Crews of Columbia University will be our keynote 
speaker!
The conference planning committee is also soliciting proposals for 
presentations. The committee is especially interested in presentations on:

 *   Licensing of ebooks and ejournals including negotiating and managing these 
licenses
 *   Using new technologies to communicate with our patrons and colleagues
 *   ILL in medical libraries/DOCLINE
 *   ILL best practices - what does a well-run ILL unit look like?
 *   ILL in public libraries
To submit a proposal, please email an abstract of 200 words by Thursday, March 
31, 2011 to:
Margaret Bean
Resource Sharing Librarian
University of Oregon
mb...@uoregon.edu

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RE: [ARIE-L] Scanner question

[Document Delivery]

We use the HP ScanJet 7650 with Ariel 3.4. On the one hand, it's a good 
scanner. On the other hand, it's really made for documents. I asked HP about 
changing the threshold so I can scan a book better on the bed, and they said 
'why would you want to scan a book?'. I would have prefered the Fujitsu fi-6230 
but it costs about $1200 instead of $800. 

Our issue with the ScanJet 7650 is that we don't use their software, we use 
ariel, and we can't change the light threshold, so if something is just a touch 
off the glass it scans black. The software is complicated to use, it seems to 
me, and our warranty is now over. But it's well made, just keep the glass clean.


Edward Helmrich 
Iona College
Ryan Library 
Interlibrary Loan Office 
715 North Ave.
New Rochelle, NY 10801
VXI, NYULUZ
914-633-2352 
docdeliv...@iona.edu 





-Original Message-
From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu 
[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of ARIE-L
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 4:38 PM
To: arie-L@u.washington.edu
Subject: [ARIE-L] Scanner question

Forwarded by the list manager
==

From: "Holt, Linda" 
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:24:27 -0500
Subject: Scanner question

Does anyone use the HP Scan jet 7650 with Ariel?  It's one that is 'lying 
round' and not used much. 
  Hoping to replace the scan Partner 15C with one that has a USB connectivity.  
 All replies greatly 
appreciated?

Thank you.

~Linda

Linda Holt
Quinnipiac University
School of Law Library
275 Mt. Carmel Ave.
Hamden, CT  06518

Phone 203 582-3315
Fax 203 582-3316

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