Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

2016-07-17 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>> I just posted about this in another thread of this mailing list,
>> specifically about RISC-V.
>
> ... where?

 okok got it, i'm awake now :)

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Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

2016-07-17 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
 wrote:

> I just posted about this in another thread of this mailing list,
> specifically about RISC-V.

... where?

>  Hopefully somebody will make some in silicon
> rather than FPGA, either lowrisc, SiFive, or somebody else.
>
>
> Also I forgot to mention the SH4 architecture with patents expired or
> expiring, and the intention to create the "J" cores, we'll see how it
> goes.
>
>
>> I rather hope for a solid discussion of the merits of the campaign, as
>> opposed
>> to people just claiming that it can't be done, won't work, or whatever.
>
>
> I really believe that it CAN be done and that it WILL work, sooner or
> later ;)

 it will... once people realise that the key bit that's hard is not
the processor core, it's the management and sourcing of the hard
macros *surrounding* the processor core.

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

2016-07-01 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
thanks good reminder
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On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Paul Boddie  wrote:
> On Friday 1. July 2016 23.17.32 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>
>>  awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link
>> to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best.
>>  http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/
>
> It looks good! :-) I'll certainly reference that in my blog article and any
> follow-up to the discussion list. Don't forget to link to the thread I started
> on the Rhombus Tech crowdsupply wiki page! And that might be a good place to
> link to the above page, too.
>
> Paul
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Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

2016-07-01 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 1. July 2016 23.17.32 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> 
>  awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link
> to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best.
>  http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/

It looks good! :-) I'll certainly reference that in my blog article and any 
follow-up to the discussion list. Don't forget to link to the thread I started 
on the Rhombus Tech crowdsupply wiki page! And that might be a good place to 
link to the above page, too.

Paul

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Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

2016-07-01 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Paul Boddie  wrote:

> But by all means send stuff my way, get in touch privately, or whatever. :-)


 awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link
to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best.
 http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/

 thx!

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Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

2016-07-01 Thread Paul Boddie
On Friday 1. July 2016 18.48.54 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> hiya paul if it's ok with you i'd like to write something up, would
> you be happy to forward it on my behalf?  i need to link some things
> together, also i met some of the FSFE people at FOSDEM2016 and would
> like them to know "this is what i showed you, it's really happening!"
> because so many people there were really excited about the prospect of
> a truly libre laptop.
> 
> more later?

You can probably post to that list or even subscribe to it without having any 
FSFE affiliation, but I guess you don't really want to spend too much time 
repeating yourself everywhere. Nevertheless, I could forward something if it 
turned out that you couldn't post anything. (There was an initiative to allow 
guest contributions to various FSFE resources, but things are being rearranged 
and this might not be the case any more.)

In fact, my intention is to write a blog article about EOMA68 (and also other 
things that have been happening in similar projects), but I decided to write 
that message first because the FSFE blog site was down at the time. The topic 
is also pertinent to previous discussions as well, so we will see if anyone 
feels it worth discussing or not.

But by all means send stuff my way, get in touch privately, or whatever. :-)

Paul

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Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

2016-07-01 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hiya paul if it's ok with you i'd like to write something up, would
you be happy to forward it on my behalf?  i need to link some things
together, also i met some of the FSFE people at FOSDEM2016 and would
like them to know "this is what i showed you, it's really happening!"
because so many people there were really excited about the prospect of
a truly libre laptop.

more later?

l.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message

2016-07-01 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Paul Boddie  wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> I've also posted a message to the FSFE discussion list about the campaign:
>
> http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/00.html

 ah!  thank you!

> There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the
> threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various
> CPU families, notably these threads:
>
> http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html
>
> (Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.)

 thought that said EOMA68-based for a minute did a bit of a
double-take there :)

l.

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