Re: Studying Economics

2001-11-02 Thread Alex Tabarrok


"Gray, Lynn" wrote:
> 
> But in terms of getting into a high ranking grad school isn't going to the
> right undergraduate institution important?
> 
> Lynn


You can get into a top graduate school from any decent undergraduate
program in the country so long as your grades are superb and you have
prepared yourself well for the intense math of the first several years. 
Undergraduate education is very similar everywhere - especially in the
standard math classes that you will want to take to prepare for grad
school (see earlier posts). 

I taught at Ball State University for a number of years which is far
from the best school in Indiana let alone anywhere else.  Yet, we were
able to send students to Chicago when those students had prepared
appropriately.  Of course, if you go to an undergraduate institution
like Ball State and you want to go to Chicago then you had better excel.


Alex  
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RE: Studying Economics

2001-11-02 Thread fabio guillermo rojas


Not as much as you think. Of course, if you go to a completely
unchallenging school your chance for a top grad school will drop.
But grad school committees have pretty good information on their
hands when it comes to econ: math grades, math GRE, econ subject GRE.
They also have letters of rec. With all that information, it's
usually pretty clear who is competitive and who is not and much
of that, except letters of rec, you can get from many different
schools. 

An interesting note is that research on college choice shows that
a handful of factors have strong effects on where you go to 
college: academic ability, price and geography. The number
of people who choose colleges for specialized purposes like
studying classics or getting into grad school is irrelevant in
the big scheme of things. It's smarts+location+price.

Fabio

> But in terms of getting into a high ranking grad school isn't going to the
> right undergraduate institution important?
> 
> Lynn




RE: Studying Economics

2001-11-02 Thread Gray, Lynn

But in terms of getting into a high ranking grad school isn't going to the
right undergraduate institution important?

Lynn

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From:   Alex Tabarrok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, November 02, 2001 11:16 AM
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Subject:Re: Studying Economics

It's much less important where you get your undergraduate education
than where you get your graduate education.  Any "good" school will do
and this includes many smaller colleges.  It is extremely unlikely that
the extra expenses of Harvard are worthwhile unless you are going into
business and want to make contacts.   

Alex
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Re: Studying Economics

2001-11-02 Thread fabio guillermo rojas


let me add another note: it's important to choose an undergraduate
college where you will do well and you like the atmosphere. 
Once you have a publication or two, nobody will care that you
got a C in graduate econometrics at MIT, but your undergraduate
GPA is used for all sorts of things. So choose a college where
the atmosphere is close to what you want (ie, choose bennington
if you are into art) and a college where the average SAT
somewhat resembles your own. 

Fabio

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Alex Tabarrok wrote:

> It's much less important where you get your undergraduate education
> than where you get your graduate education.  Any "good" school will do
> and this includes many smaller colleges.  It is extremely unlikely that
> the extra expenses of Harvard are worthwhile unless you are going into
> business and want to make contacts.   
> 
> Alex
> -- 
> Dr. Alexander Tabarrok
> Vice President and Director of Research
> The Independent Institute
> 100 Swan Way
> Oakland, CA, 94621-1428
> Tel. 510-632-1366, FAX: 510-568-6040
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 




Re: Studying Economics

2001-11-02 Thread Alex Tabarrok

It's much less important where you get your undergraduate education
than where you get your graduate education.  Any "good" school will do
and this includes many smaller colleges.  It is extremely unlikely that
the extra expenses of Harvard are worthwhile unless you are going into
business and want to make contacts.   

Alex
-- 
Dr. Alexander Tabarrok
Vice President and Director of Research
The Independent Institute
100 Swan Way
Oakland, CA, 94621-1428
Tel. 510-632-1366, FAX: 510-568-6040
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Austrian school and universalist economics

2001-11-02 Thread Technotranscendence

On Friday, November 02, 2001 8:57 AM Fred Foldvary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Austrian economics is not specifically capital-based, as there is
> much more to it, and has more fundamental features, but as a
> distinction from other schools of thought, indeed Austrian
> capital-goods theory has not been integrated into the mainstream and
> hence makes Austrian theory distinctive.

I agree, though the Austrian school has a more developed capital theory than
any other school.  IIRC, capital theory was basically abandoned by the other
schools in the 1930s...  (Perhaps someone more widely read could tell us if
I'm misinformed here.)

> As to one's approach to economics, is it not the best course to
> attempt to integrate the warranted theory from all schools to create
> a universalist school?

I agree here, though the focus on capital pays dividends in spades, in my
opinion, just as, e.g., evolutionary theory does not explain or exhaust all
biological phenomena, but it helps with so much.

Cheers!

Daniel Ust
http://uweb.superlink.net/neptune/




Re: Tax with positive growth effect

2001-11-02 Thread Gustavo Lacerda \(mediaone\)

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> > Whereas if there were no tax (i.e. if it was voluntary), individual
> businesses would be reluctant to use their money that way, even if
> they knew that everybody would be better off if everybody invested
> their share into the collective fund
> > (prisoner's paradox).
> > Gustavo
>
> Does the prisoners' paradox not disappear when the game is on-going
> and the participants may communicate?  Why would a trade association
> with mutual benefits not work?
>

The prisoner's dilemma does not tend to disappear when there are many
participants. It pays off to be a leech.
If there are enough leeches, participation in a trade association may cost
too much for the benefits it provides. It would be more beneficial to not
participate in the trade association and reap the benefits anyway... in this
case, the people who do participate end up paying for the ones that don't.
Again, this is because the return is collective while the investment is
invididual. (unless we have a mandatory investment, i.e. a tax)

Gustavo




RE: Austrian school and universalist economics

2001-11-02 Thread Pinczewski-Lee, Joe (LRC)

Well Physics has been attempting a comparable feat in Unified Field Theory,
linking Quantum Mechanics and Einsteinian Macro-Level Physics for years, so
good luck Economists!

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Subject: Austrian school and universalist economics


> Roger Garrison has made a very good cause for the Austrian 
> school to remain a separate school. He classifies schools as being 
> labour-based (Keynesian), money-based (Monetarists) and capital-
> based (Austrian).
> Pierre le Roux

Austrian economics is not specifically capital-based, as there is
much more to it, and has more fundamental features, but as a
distinction from other schools of thought, indeed Austrian
capital-goods theory has not been integrated into the mainstream and
hence makes Austrian theory distinctive.

As to one's approach to economics, is it not the best course to
attempt to integrate the warranted theory from all schools to create
a universalist school?

Fred Foldvary 


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Re: Tax with positive growth effect

2001-11-02 Thread Fred Foldvary

> Whereas if there were no tax (i.e. if it was voluntary), individual
businesses would be reluctant to use their money that way, even if
they knew that everybody would be better off if everybody invested
their share into the collective fund 
> (prisoner's paradox).
> Gustavo

Does the prisoners' paradox not disappear when the game is on-going
and the participants may communicate?  Why would a trade association
with mutual benefits not work?

Fred Foldvary 

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Re: Tax with positive growth effect

2001-11-02 Thread Fred Foldvary

>> cost of replacing the building, subtracts depreciation, and that
>> amount is subtracted from the prevailing market prices in that
>> neighborhood to estimate the land value.

> I agree, but you are talking about is price of land, not its value;
> that is market price!!!The difference makes the difference.
> Alexander Guerrero

I don't understand what difference you are referring to.

Fred Foldvary


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Re: Tax with positive growth effect

2001-11-02 Thread Fred Foldvary

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> For a very brief period of time several places in South Carolina
> tried to tax idle land.  The accessor would try to figure out what
the most valuable improvement to the land would be and then asses
based on that.  It was a horrible failure.
> What did happen is that landlords would throw up the absolute
cheapest building that he could in order to avoid the assesor coming
up with some idea.<
> Mitch

That is an incorrect way of assessing land value.
The correct way to estimate the land value based on its best use is
to use typical neighboring land values.  The particular improvements
of the particular plot under consideration should be utterly ignored.
The site owner would then have no incentive to put up something just
for show.
Hong Kong is an example of successful public revenue from land value
or rent.  Under the UK colonial government, the government there
obtained much of its revenue from leasing sites, which in turn were
leased for 99 years from China until 1997.  The rental revenue
enables the administration to have low taxes (they could have zero
taxes).
Sidney, Australia, is among several cities world-wide which exempt
improvements from the real-estate property tax, taxing only the land
value.  It does not seem to me that there have been any ill effects
there or other cities that exempt improvements.
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Re: Tax with positive growth effect

2001-11-02 Thread Fred Foldvary

> > No, the whole rationale for taxing land value is that it does not
> > matter what the site owner does with the land.  

>What you are proposing is a kind of capital tax. I do not have
>anything against it, but your face the economic consequences of
>taxing "capital".

No, because land is not capital.

Fred Foldvary


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Austrian school and universalist economics

2001-11-02 Thread Fred Foldvary

> Roger Garrison has made a very good cause for the Austrian 
> school to remain a separate school. He classifies schools as being 
> labour-based (Keynesian), money-based (Monetarists) and capital-
> based (Austrian).
> Pierre le Roux

Austrian economics is not specifically capital-based, as there is
much more to it, and has more fundamental features, but as a
distinction from other schools of thought, indeed Austrian
capital-goods theory has not been integrated into the mainstream and
hence makes Austrian theory distinctive.

As to one's approach to economics, is it not the best course to
attempt to integrate the warranted theory from all schools to create
a universalist school?

Fred Foldvary 


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Re: Elasticities and international trade

2001-11-02 Thread Alexander Guerrero

One interesting thing is that many collegues do not make differences between
tradables and nontradables. which in small countries you coud use a rule of
6:4 in termes of prices. So it is very difficult to estimate elasticities
accordingly with Marshall-Lerner conventions, since the price you are usin
is an "aggregate" of tradeables and nontradebles whose adjutment path it is
very different in both cases. At the end of the day devaluating the currency
to become  more "competitive" you are gaining at expenses of workers real
income (wages) reductions, that it bread for today hunger for tomorrow.
There is more in this regard but for the case of elasticities is worth to
mention that we economists aggregate everything so we can get to the end
with aggregated conclusions!!!.
Alexander Guerrero
Oxford


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Subject: RE: Elasticities and international trade


> South Africa is a typical small open Economy.
> Its currency the Rand stands at R8.54 to the dollar at present.  It
> fell from R0.96 in 1979 to its present value.
> Mainstream economists all argue that its good since exports are
> stimulated (price thus elastic) and imports discouraged (also price
> elastic).
> My studies (econometric) seems to indicate that both are actually
> more income elastic dependent thus on overseas growth for
> exports and local growth for imports. The gains are thus purely in
> extra rands from exports but losses ito an  increased import bill.
> My problem is this: SA is a price-taker internationally and thus
> cannot influence the price. A devaluating currency will this only
> benefit the exporter in Rand terms since the price in $ terms
> (international price) remains the same. I must be missing
> something since my colleagues still beg to differ.
> Please advice me on where my arguments are going wrong.
> Kind Regards,
> Pierre le Roux
> Sub-Head
> Dept Economics,
> P/bag x613,
> Vista University,
> Port Elizabeth 6000
> South Africa
> office 041 4083145
> CELL 0822024819
> FAX 041  4641563
>