Re: Partisan fiscal policy

2002-08-21 Thread Jacob W Braestrup

related to this topic is the expected fiscal effect from tax reductions 
and increases

I recommend: 
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/loader.cfm?
url=/commonspot/security/getfile.cfmPageID=5369

(make sure it all fits into one line)

- jacob braestrup
 
 
 Armchairs,
 
 As the US recession looms larger and longer, Bush and his folk are 
found in 
 the uneasy position of trying some active fiscal policies...
 
 In a very simplistic macro view, raising public expenditures or 
lowering 
 taxes (in the short run) were both considered expansionist fiscal 
 policies--at least in the sense that both increase public sector 
deficits... 
 they are equivalent policies.
 
 However, in real world policymaking, republicans prefer lower taxes 
and 
 democrats would rather have more expenditures... as if they were 
different 
 policies.
 
 Does this partisan/ideological asymmetry have any real effect?  Is 
the 
 equivalence for real... in the short run... in the long run?  Do 
people 
 perceive them as different too?
 
 More practically, what is easier to get, lower taxes or higher 
expenditures?  
 Does this apply to the federal as well to the state level?
 
 any reactions?
 
 -JA
 
 

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Re: Partisan fiscal policy

2002-08-21 Thread William Dickens

 (does anyone in econ still 
talk about the old concept of aggregate supply and demand?), 
 
Judging by the best selling textbooks yes. Most certainly. I haven't looked in the 
last couple of years, but the last time I did there still wasn't a really good text 
book that presented undergraduate macro entirely in terms of OLG or RBC models that 
still dealt with standard concerns about stabilization policy. Most undergraduate 
instructors still think stabilization policy is important (and since it is a very 
large part of the discussion of economic events in the press they are probably right) 
and want to teach it. The IS-LM-AD-AS model is still the best way to explain those 
concepts. - - Bill Dickens


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Re: Partisan fiscal policy

2002-08-20 Thread Fred Foldvary

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a very simplistic macro view, raising public expenditures or lowering 
 taxes (in the short run) were both considered expansionist fiscal 
 policies--at least in the sense that both increase public sector
 deficits... they are equivalent policies.

The expansionist effect is reduced when the deficit is financed from domestic
borrowing, which displaces private domestic consumption or investment.
 
 However, in real world policymaking, republicans prefer lower taxes and 
 democrats would rather have more expenditures... as if they were different 
 policies.
 
 Does this partisan/ideological asymmetry have any real effect?

As such, no.  But there are also supply-side effects from reducing taxes,
which would provide a larger effect, and the long-run domestic effect depends
on what the funds are spent for, i.e. military abroad versus domestic
consumption or governmental investment.

 More practically, what is easier to get, lower taxes or higher
 expenditures?  

Higher expenditures are easier, since tax cuts require lengthy deliberations
and are more difficult to reverse.  Spending can be focused on local pork.

 Does this apply to the federal as well to the state level?

I don't see why not.
 
Fred Foldvary

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Re: Partisan fiscal policy

2002-08-20 Thread AdmrlLocke


In a message dated 8/20/02 7:58:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a very simplistic macro view, raising public expenditures or lowering 
 taxes (in the short run) were both considered expansionist fiscal 
 policies--at least in the sense that both increase public sector
 deficits... they are equivalent policies.

The expansionist effect is reduced when the deficit is financed from 
domestic
borrowing, which displaces private domestic consumption or investment.

Agreed.  And if financed by creating new money, it simply increases nominal 
aggregate demand, but not real aggregate demand (does anyone in econ still 
talk about the old concept of aggregate supply and demand?), creating a false 
expansion--inflation--followed by a bust.  That policy characterizes the 
stagflation circa 1968-1982.
 
 However, in real world policymaking, republicans prefer lower taxes and 
 democrats would rather have more expenditures... as if they were different 
 policies.
 
 Does this partisan/ideological asymmetry have any real effect?

As such, no.  But there are also supply-side effects from reducing taxes,
which would provide a larger effect, and the long-run domestic effect depends
on what the funds are spent for, i.e. military abroad versus domestic
consumption or governmental investment.

If the tax reduction comes in the form of reducing marginal tax rates we'd 
get a supply-side increase in the rate of growth, but tax rebates a la Ford 
or Junior Bush simply shift the income back to the private section (where it 
may increase growth simply through an efficiency effect, which you'd also get 
with cuts in marginal tax rates).

 More practically, what is easier to get, lower taxes or higher
 expenditures?  

Higher expenditures are easier, since tax cuts require lengthy deliberations
and are more difficult to reverse.  Spending can be focused on local pork.

Likewise targeted tax credits and other narrowly-focuses tax breaks.  It's 
much hard to do what Reagan did--making sweeping across-the-board cuts in 
marginal individual income tax rates.

 Does this apply to the federal as well to the state level?

I don't see why not.
 
Fred Foldvary
 

Agreed.

David Levenstam