Re: [arr] this is why rahman is great.........

[Padmini Murthy]

VK- Welcome to the group. Did not understand your point? Are you saying that
he mix and matches? Or he picks up music from other sources?

Even if you would like to believe so, I think there is nothing wrong with
it, because he does it with such style and eloquence that even imitation is
unique.

If I have understood your point correctly, then do confirm, so that I can
give you a longer sermon:-)


-PM


On 3/31/08, $*$ PaVaN $*$ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>*Murthy...Now..This is why you are really greatAwesome find
> dude..keep exploring your talents like this..Way to go..*
> **
> *Thanks for some fun..*
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> *VK Murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  hi i am a new member here...,. i will point out something which i am damn
> sure nobody would have pointed out yet!
> listen to the file which i am sending herewith.. with all great respect to
> both the mds and with all respect to fans of both the mds i feel this is why
> Rahman is great!! he can modify and alter anything and make it a
> song!!
>
> wah wah!!
>
> i am damn sure fans of the other concerned md will not be happy but can't
> help it lol!
>
> ~VKM ;-)
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Re: [arr] Re: Finally, I got a reply from the musical genius!

[Padmini Murthy]

Aahhh! It was too good to be true, Isn't it Thulasi?

But it really does not matter- does it? He writes to you or not, he knows
you or not, he ever thinks of all his fans or not. He is always in your
heart with his ever mesmerizing music.

His music that evokes -Love, Desire, Hope, Excitement, Pathos, Surprise,
Pain. His music that evokes Life. And a feeling that you are alive.every
single moment

Each song is a celebration and each day we live in this beauty is a blessing
in his presence.

What more can you ask for and What more do you care for? Life seems
complete. Isn't it?

In Rahman:-)
Padmini


On 3/28/08, Shama Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Aww! That's not nice to play with someone's feelings like that.
> Dontcha worry, Thulasi...God-willing a day will come when you will get to
> meet ARR himself.
>
> *Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  Ok guys... some real info now.. from reliable sources, it is now
> confirmed that the mail was NOT sent by ARR.. a kind-hearted gentleman
> living somewhere in this world was trying his level best to give the April
> 1st (Fool's day) shock to me three days earlier.. obviously, i m a victim of
> it..
>
> some force may stop the rotating earth but can never succeed in stoping
> the crooked human intention!
>
> ok now, beware of any mails from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> that's prank...
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Please see below... I am in the seventh heaven... Long live ARR!
> > *
> > Hello Thulasi,
> >
> > I read in one forum that Rang de song from Thakshak has been featured in
> > the movie Brick Lane. Ashutosh said me this, and i was searching in google,
> > the movie name. I got this from your post.  Thanks for the information. This
> > is new to me.
> >
> > May god bless you.
> >
> > Allah Rakha Rahman*
> >
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>
>  'You are what your deepest desire is. As you desire, so is your
> intention. As your intention, so is your will. As is your will so is your
> deed. As is your deed, so is your destiny.'  The Upanishads
>
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Re: [arr] Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers

[Padmini Murthy]

Hi Dasun,

This is very strange but I feel the need to share it with all of you. Today,
as I was returning from my friend's house, I connected my Ipod to my car
stereo like I usually do. There was a strange sadness, a very unexplicable,
usharable feeling as I was leaving their house. And then I started playing
the tracks which by default were all ARR songs. As these tracks played, I
was getting deeper into my core where there was intense pain. But this pain
was beautiful, because I was experiencing each song in its entirety, each
note, each chord, each word. In that moment I wished if someone could put
all these emotions in words because I have never been good at it, howmuch
ever I tried. Wtih a very heavy heart I returned home, logged in to read
Dasun's email. It was almost like, someone wanted me to read what I was
feeling. How much ever I wanted to stop, tears rolled down my cheeks to see
how every sentence was so close to what I was feeling through the drive. I
want to stop here without going out into too much tangent which is not good
for me or the group:-)

Please keep writing Dasun!  Thanks again!

Padmini

On 2/18/08, Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Gomzy and Vishwesh, thanks for your feedback and you are most welcome.
> I'm so glad I wrote this..it gave me a chance to express how I've felt about
> this very special song...and it came out nicely too. :)
>
> Best regards,
> Dasun
>
>  --
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:06:11 -0800
> Subject: Re: [arr] Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers
>
>   Dasun,
>
> I can't thank you enough for this beautiful writeup about one of my most
> favorite songs...
>
> You made my experience of listening to this already "very close to my
> heart" song, even more special & emotional...
>
> -Vishwesh.
>
>
> *Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  As promised..here's my take on Do Kadam. Enjoy! :)
>
> Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers
>
> "If a music artist wants to blossom into a full-fledged person, it's not
> enough if he knows only classical music; nor is it enough if he is
> well-versed only in raagas and techniques. Instead, he should be a
> knowledgeable person interested in life and philosophy. In his personal life
> there should be, at least in some corner of his heart, a tinge of lingering
> sorrow."
>
> When I first read this profound quote by ARR, it sparked, deep inside of
> me, something very sincere and beautiful; these words may have been that
> little pinch the sleeping artist within me, who I had forgotten due to the
> constant pursuit of survival instincts and was consciously trying to
> restrain by offering traditional societal expectations as excuses, needed to
> rub his eyes and wake up! I had a natural interest in life and philosophy;
> it was as if these subjects were written into my genes, and I was always
> grateful to my parents and to my Buddhist upbringing for inculcating that
> sense of understanding and intuitive wisdom so early on in my life which
> made my life a little easier and more balanced during the typically
> turbulent teen-ages, though it often seemed to outsiders a very difficult
> and restrained one. It is this same intuitive sense of balance and
> understanding, now I realize, that drew me to the naturally symmetrical
> music of my life's early heroes - ARR and Yanni - at the age of 13 and made
> me appreciate and grow with their exquisite music. But, until the moment of
> reading this quote, I had not made the connection between these natural
> interests of mine and the awe-inspiring and divine profession of the true
> artist. What is lacking within this dormant artist that keeps him from
> getting out of his cozy bed? What is this tinge of lingering sorrow that ARR
> has in a corner of his heart? What sorrow could lie in the heart of this
> man, who, to me, embodies all that is beautiful, happy, and heavenly? Is it
> this sorrow that I lack?
>
> Years passed as an uninterrupted supply of beautiful music and incredible
> artistry from the maestro continued to subconsciously alter my spiritual
> state of being for the better while I contently lived with my latent artist
> trying to figure out what this sorrow is and how and where is it that he is
> going to find it. Then, in early 2004, I bought an album I had anxiously
> awaited for quite some time; it brought together India's foremost painter –
> M.F. Hussein – in his second directorial venture with India's foremost
> composer – A.R. Rahman! I knew I was going to get magic from this album
> well before its release! The music was true to expectations, very colorfully
> crafted, and quite deftly and intricately woven with ARR himself attempting
> to reach the abstract heights of an M.F. Hussein painting in the two
> instrumental pieces; however, one song stood out every time I listened to
> the entire album. It was something ve

Re: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality

[Padmini Murthy]

Thanks Dasun!

On 2/2/08, Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Padmini,
>
> I'm not sure if Chord promised an audio clip, but what I promised was a
> write-up on Uyirum Neeye which I did post a few days back. Let me see if I
> can get these uploaded to the group database storage. I will just send it to
> you in the meantime.
>
> Arijith,
>
> Remember that my comparisons were bounded by the time frames I chose. The
> question you're posing is
> on a open window, but let me address what you are pointing out here.
>
> Anbe:
> Good song, but I didn't think it stood out the first time I heard it. It's
> got amazing orchestration for sure.
>
> Desh Mere:
> Soulful, musically, but not daring, I must say. The context of the song,
> lyrically, is rebellious of course, which may be what you are pointing out.
>
> Dacaoit Duel:
> I'm ashamed to say, this is one of the albums I'm yet to buy, so I cannot
> comment. This too did not qualify because it is for a chinese production,
> and not Indian.
>
> Like an Eagle:
> It's got energy for sure, but the singing does not suit the level of
> energy needed. Raza Jeffrey and Priya Kalidas had veery pop voices and they
> could not really pull off the vocal strength needed for a stage production.
> However, it introduced stage drama/musicals to the Indian audience in UK, so
> in that sense I can appreciate the effort. Bombay Dreams had pretty average
> lyrics to; I always though Don Black could've done better than this.
> Sometimes I wonder if he struggled with ARR's mystical approach to composing
> on top of the unusually Eastern phrasing styles of ARR. He hints at this in
> the recent video which was posted.
>
> Please Sir:
> I tend to skip this song, so I can't say this struck me as innovative. Is
> it a new genre, that may have some truth in terms of style, but it is not
> striking enough in my view.
>
> Girlfriend:
> Very pop song with lots of appropriate energy given the context, and I
> love it; but it is certainly not a Thee Thee or Dil Se Re.
>
> Dil Se (background score):
> Background scores, I left out in the discussion, but Dil Se has some of
> the most divine music ARR has created. A different world altogether. The Dil
> Se album in its entirety would have easily qualified in this category if it
> had not fallen outside the time windows I had defined.
>
> Innisai:
> Again, one of those albums, I'm yet to pick-up.
>
> Konjum Mainakale:
> Beautiful song, I loved Rajeev Menon's picturization as I did all of the
> song picturizations of KK, especially the title song. This does not fall in
> the original category; the standard I had set for this may be very high that
> it is unfair to most songs that would easily qualify as original compared
> with other composers' output; but we are talking about ARR's standards! :)
>
> Vellai Pookkal:
> Peace is the word to describe this song; so I can't call it rebellious
> from a musical perspective. It's hard to capture a Gandhi in music. :)
>
> RDB:
> Now I must admit, I didn't think about this album at all when I wrote that
> article on originality. How I missed this is beyond me, but I did try to be
> spontaneous in the spirit of my topic! :) Yes, RDB is all about
> rebelliousness and ARR captures that in so many different angles with this
> album. Khalbali and Roobaroo would definitely fall in this category, and
> Paatshaala to a certain degree as well. Though very contemporary, this album
> gives new meaning to what popular music can be by lifting it a notch above
> the usual mediocrity. ARR has a very sharp sense for what would become part
> of history and he just delivers big time when it comes to movies like this.
> Thanks for pointing out that big, big oversight; I did a dis-service to ARR
> here.
>
> O Humdum:
> Again, too pop for my category, but like Girlfriend from boys, it has
> energy that suits its context.
>
> Chotta Chotta:
> This movie has a few wonderful songs, but I don't have it in my library,
> so can't comment on this. That reminds me that I got a lot of shopping to do
> including Jodha Akbar, which I absolutely need to buy!
>
> It's good to see some of you thinking of why you like these songs and what
> sort of emotions they evoke within you. My responses are subjective and
> should not be taken as final by any means.  Let us discuss and debate
> because I am learning and expanding as much as you may be.
>
> Take care,
> Dasun
>
>
>
>  --
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:03:58 -0800
> Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality
>
>
> Dasun/ Chord,
>
> I think one of you posed an audio piece that was created by you. Can you
> repost it again? I am not able to find it in my inbox? I hope I am not
> smoking anything:-)
>
>
> On 2/1/08, *Arijit Debnath* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dasun,
>
> What is ur feel abt "Anbe idhu" from Rhythm... I think this is also a
> rebelious song itself

Re: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality

[Padmini Murthy]

Dasun/ Chord,

I think one of you posed an audio piece that was created by you. Can you
repost it again? I am not able to find it in my inbox? I hope I am not
smoking anything:-)


On 2/1/08, Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Hi Dasun,
>
> What is ur feel abt "Anbe idhu" from Rhythm... I think this is also a
> rebelious song itself after Thee Thee I count this one.
> Also "Desh mere" is rebelious lyrically and musically too (From TLOBS)
> What do u think abt "Dacaoit Duel" from WOHAE?
> Like an Eagle from Bombay Dreams
> Pls Sir (Boys) is also a new genre itself (may not be a rebel but
> musically very new to ear)
> Girlfreind (Boys) is defe a rebel song to me!!
> Dil se ending score ...true rebelious
> innisai (GF)...
> Kunjum  mainakale (KK) isn't a rebel as a romantic song (I never heard
> such romantic rebel before)?
> Vellai Pukal... its a rebel song to me with no weapons no noise... rebel
> can be done piecefully Rahman roved that
> The whole RDB album is rebelious (including awesome BMG)
> O humdum (Sathiya) this is another new genre introduced by none other than
> Rahman... this is also 1st of its kind
> Chotta chotta (Tajmahal)... what a melody and blend of flute... again
> never heard this kind of song (if anyone heard anything like this pls let us
> know...we will enjoy that too)
>
>
> Till now I remeber these after Thiruda Thiruda (that is the best by Rahman
> in my opinion). Anyway new sound or rebel songs will be growing in my list.
>
> Arijit
>
>
>  On 31/01/2008, Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Shah Navas,
> >
> > Sorry for the delayed reply. From a purely intuitive level, Thamizha
> > Thamizha didn't strike me as innovatively original, to qualify my use of the
> > term original now. Thee Thee just jumps at you when you listen to it as
> > incredibly new...I mean I haven't heard a single song like that since
> > then..where the base guitar is used to amazing effect...that was that pure
> > daring, rebellious freshness that I was looking for...Dil Se Re perhaps
> > comes closest to that kind of in-your-face creativity. I guess there is an
> > element of high energy that you look for in things like that, and Thamizha
> > Thamizha, though it has energy, is more of a soulful composition than
> > energetic. I would love to have another one like Dil Se or Thee Thee where
> > you just have to stop everything you do and drop your jaws! :)
> >
> > You are certainly entitled to your opinion; I hope that clarifies my
> > point of view. Good stuff..let's keep expanding. :)
> >
> > Take care,
> > Dasun
> >
> >  --
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:05:32 +0530
> > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality
> >
> >   Dasun says >>Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan,
> > and Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly crafted
> > albums, but, not the most original.
> >
> > Dasun,
> >
> > I request you to elaborate on this. I don't have any music knowledge.
> > But I see 'Thee Thee'  from 'Thiruda  Thiruda' and 'Tamizha  Tamizha'  from
> > 'Roja'  loosely have the same structure. Both the songs start with a slow
> > melody and moves into a contrasting plane with burst of sound and vocals and
> > resumes back the melody.
> >
> > It's like 2 different songs are interwoven into one. Still they convey a
> > unified theme. In that sense 'Tamizha  Tamizha' is more original to me as
> > it's a patriotic song which expresses many moods - hope, anger, motivation,
> > depression and the lyrics similarly matches the music or vice versa.
> >
> > But if you take 'Thee Thee', the doesn't necessarily depict a theme or a
> > situation, rather doesn't even match the picturisation. I feel it was more
> > of an experiment by Rahman and Manirathnam included the song (like most  of
> > the  times). If you see both these songs in this context   'Tamizha
> > Tamizha' is more original.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2008 12:28 PM, shanavas.chemmamkuzhi <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dasun is talking about 92-96 era. Earth released on 98.
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > well I feel thats nonsense. You can see his original works in
> > earth then
> > > onto lagaan and then upto swades atleast. Not to mention water !
> > >
> >
> > > On Jan 28, 2008 12:08 PM, : Avinash : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dasun.. That's really well thought, in depth writeup man.
> > You
> > > > really stole my words! :) I was thinking, how to explain 'chord'
> > > > about defining ARR standards and you perfectly reflected my
> > > > mind.. :) Keep it flowing..
> > > >
> > > > Thanks..
> > > > -Avinash
> > > >
> >
> > > > -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com  > 40yahoogroups.com>, Dasun
> >
> > > > Abeysekera 
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Originality

Re: [arr] newbie

[Padmini Murthy]

Welcome!! Yes, where is our Rahman?

On 2/1/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Hi. Welcome.. What abt A.R.RAHMAN  You have not mentioned his
> name ??
>
> On 2/2/08, gisellesheridan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Hi.. I am a newbie...My name is Giselle..love music particularly
> > Classical,Acoustic guitar instrumentals,pop
> > instrumentals,quartets,bebop jazzsome of my fav players are Wes
> > Montgomery, Segovia, Noel Lorica, Peter White etcc.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
> A.R.RAHMAN -  MY BREATH & LIFE FORCE
>
> 
>

Re: [arr] Please help me...

[Padmini Murthy]

Salut Mon Ami,

Nous respectons votre sentiment parce que tous les gens ici sont le fans.
Mais pouvez vous nous donnez votre poesie? pouvez vous le traduisser en
englais pour nous avec l'aide de quelqu'n? Nous allons essayer:-) d'accord.
Rien est impossible dans la monde de Rahman:-)

Pardonnez moi pour les fautes en francais.

On 2/1/08, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   En:
>
> Nope. I do not have a solution for you and probably others here too
> would not have a solution for your request.
>
> What kind of a request is this - to ask Rahman to compose for your poem?
> Would you mind to post your poem first?
>
> Fr:
>
> Nope. Je n'ai pas une solution pour vous et d'autres ici trop
> n'auraient pas probablement une solution pour votre demande. Quel
> genre de demande est ceci - de demander Rahman pour composer pour
> votre poésie ? Est-ce que cela vous dérangerait de signaler votre
> poésie d'abord ?
>
> On 2/1/08, amsakutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > HI,
> > I hope you inderstand my message.
> > Avez vous une solution? Pensez vous que mon reve peux se réaliser,
> > pouvez vous faire quelques choses pour moi?
> > Thanks again!!
> >
> >
> >
> > > > On 2/1/08, amsakutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://unnakenaorukavidhai.spaces.live.com/
> > > > > Salut à tous je ne sais pas trop l'anglais donc veuillez m'en
> > excuser.
> > > > > J'ai un voeu qui me tiens à coeur, c'est que je voudrai
> > transmettre
> > > > > un de mes poemes à AR.RAHMAN pour qu'il pour en fasse une
> > chanson.
> > > > > Franchement c'est mon voeu le plus chère donc j'espère que vous
> > > > > m'aiderez à lui remettre mon poeme. Si vous avez une solution à
> > ma
> > > > > situation et si vous pouvez faire quelques choses pour moi donc
> > > > > veuillez me tenir au courant le plus tot possible. Je vous
> > > > > transmettrai mon poeme dès que vous aurez une solution.
> > > > > Je veux vraiment que ce rêve se réalise pour moi et pour mon
> > > > > entourage surtout pour mes parents à qui je n'ai jamais lu mes
> > > > > poemes. Et aussi veux que mon écriture se fasse connaitre et
> > cela
> > > > > grâce a AR.RAHMAN parce que je l'adore, je suis une grande (non
> > non)
> > > > > une ENORME fan de AR.RAHMAN. Tous les jours j'ecoute ses
> > chansons.
> > > > > Pour moi AR.RAHMAN c'est le meilleur qui uisse exister donc je
> > veux
> > > > > que sa musique et mon écriture se fusionnent.
> > > > > PLS PLS, s'il vous plaît, help me, si vous faites cela pour moi
> > je ne
> > > > > vous oublierai jamais.
> > > > > S'il vous plaît s'il vous plaît faites cela pour moi
> > > > > Si vous avez des nouvelles veuillez me les transmettre (en
> > français
> > > > > s'il vous plaît, parce que je ne comprends pas très bien
> > l'anglais).
> > > > > Excusez moi de ne pas avoir écris en anglais comme je vous l'ai
> > dis
> > > > > je suis nul en anglais.
> > > > > Merci d'avance, et merci d'avoir pris du temps pour lire mon
> > message
> > > > > et aussi si vous pouvez me trouvez une solution.
> > > > > Merci beaucoup, thank you very very very much
> > > > > http://unnakenaorukavidhai.spaces.live.com/===> veuillez
> > trouvez mes
> > > > > poemes, MERCI THANKS!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > regards,
> > > > Vithur
> > > >
> > > > A.R.RAHMAN - MY BREATH & LIFE FORCE
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
>

Re: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part II - Aesthetic Judgment

[Padmini Murthy]

Very well written indeed. Not in so many words, but I share a similar
feeling with you.
Keep writing. I am so glad I joined this group. Keeps me close to my
heart!!!

Padmini


On 1/28/08, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Fantastic writeup. Good choice of words and you are obviously very
> educated and well read. I esp. like your last paragraph, about
> sharing that unsaid silence with ARR and paying tribute to the harmony
> and divinity around us. I can TOTALLY relate. You expressed yourself
> very beautifully and poignantly. I'm going to save your writeup
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Aesthetic Judgment (Taste)
> >
> > I don't have to tell you that ARR's taste is of the highest possible
> kind compared with composers of all time. I mean how many composers
> the world-over has ever had the privilege of being compared to the
> ideal of Mozart, let alone being called one? Not even the kings of
> melody of the West – Richard Rogers (of The Sound of Music (59) fame)
> Sir Francis Lai (Love Story (1970)), Maurice Jarr (Dr. Zhivago
> (1965)), or even Ennio Morricone, who have written some of the most
> soulful and moving music I have ever heard, have been told they are
> like Mozart, at least not to my knowledge. Most music lovers, and all
> great minds, Leo Tolstoy and Albert Einstein among them, have
> acknowledged unanimously that Mozart's music is the most perfect and
> the most universal imagined, no, let me use the word conjured, by any
> human being; because imagination, to many, could still mean there's
> some conscious involvement in that process of creation; perhaps, it is
> still a conscious process, but it is a far superior sense of
> consciousness that, by average human standards, it cannot be called
> one. If anybody here has seen the Oscar-winning movie Amadeus (84) by
> Milos Forman, you can see why it is so: Mozart's music, to use a
> phrase Einstein once used, seems like have simply been `plucked out of
> the universe'; the great scientist who adored Mozart and used to play
> his Sonatas on his little violin when he wanted a break from his
> scientific pursuits, says that compared to Mozart, Beethoven's music
> feels `too personal, almost naked.' Tolstoy, in his polemical book
> `What is Art?' destroys the kind of conscious creativity that he
> believes Beethoven and the followers of the Romantic movement that he
> charted, Richard Wagner, for example, brought about to Europe,
> overthrowing the musical dominance of the spontaneous and universal
> music of Mozart.
> >
> > In essence, Mozart's music and its perfection are not a result of
> conscious processing, they come from a superior sense of natural
> harmony and an extremely rare capability of letting go of one's self
> and connecting with the universal spirit and listening to it in all
> its infinite beauty. There cannot be a more fitting description of
> ARR's music and how he has conjured his magical output over the years;
> and it is no accident that the West would offer up their ideal for
> comparison with the best the East has offered to date. That sort of
> taste, a sincere kinship with the natural harmony and beauty of the
> universe, with God, if you will, years in an industry cannot fade away
> or dilute, and, if anything, I can confidently say that ARR's taste
> has, over the years, been refined like fine old wine, and I have not
> witnessed an instance where his aesthetic judgment, given the proper
> opportunities, has faltered beyond identification. In his choice of
> movies, directors, and lyrics, there maybe exceptions, but I will
> address these in a later category.
> >
> > It is difficult to pin down one or two works from the 92-96 period
> in which, like Rano said, beauty oozed out of every single phrase that
> he weaved, but I will pick two of my favorite songs `Kannalane' from
> Bombay (95) and `Uyirum Neeye' from Pavitra (94) in which I think ARR
> achieves the highest form of perfection. Sometime back, I analyzed the
> beauty of the song Uyirum Neeye from a conceptual viewpoint, so if
> anybody is interested, let me know and I will send it to you or post
> it on the forum. Kannalane (or Kehna Hai Kya), I hear, has entered the
> music textbooks in certain parts of the world (Canada, if I recall
> correctly)! Yes, these are songs of superior beauty that they have
> that universal appeal that Tolstoy hailed as the finest ingredient of
> the greatest of art.
> >
> > What about now? What are the ARR compositions within the past 5
> years which evoke the same feelings in me? Piya Ho from Water (2005)
> and Do Kadam from Meenaxi (2004) for sure are my favorites from this
> period with Tere Bina from Guru not too far off. When I refer to the
> perfection of these songs, I mean that I don't feel that I need to
> remove any part, any phrase, any instrument, sound or note, everything
> is in the right place at the right time! If anybody felt differen

Re: [arr] ARR's Standard Deviation - Part II - Aesthetic Judgment

[Padmini Murthy]

Hi Dasun,

You were talking about having written something on Kehna hi kya? I would
love to read that.

Padmini


On 1/28/08, Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Aesthetic Judgment (Taste)
>
> I don't have to tell you that ARR's taste is of the highest possible kind
> compared with composers of all time. I mean how many composers the
> world-over has ever had the privilege of being compared to the ideal of
> Mozart, let alone being called one? Not even the kings of melody of the West
> – Richard Rogers (of The Sound of Music (59) fame) Sir Francis Lai (Love
> Story (1970)), Maurice Jarr (Dr. Zhivago (1965)), or even Ennio Morricone,
> who have written some of the most soulful and moving music I have ever
> heard, have been told they are like Mozart, at least not to my knowledge.
> Most music lovers, and all great minds, Leo Tolstoy and Albert Einstein
> among them, have acknowledged unanimously that Mozart's music is the most
> perfect and the most universal imagined, no, let me use the word conjured,
> by any human being; because imagination, to many, could still mean there's
> some conscious involvement in that process of creation; perhaps, it is still
> a conscious process, but it is a far superior sense of consciousness that,
> by average human standards, it cannot be called one. If anybody here has
> seen the Oscar-winning movie Amadeus (84) by Milos Forman, you can see why
> it is so: Mozart's music, to use a phrase Einstein once used, seems like
> have simply been 'plucked out of the universe'; the great scientist who
> adored Mozart and used to play his Sonatas on his little violin when he
> wanted a break from his scientific pursuits, says that compared to Mozart,
> Beethoven's music feels 'too personal, almost naked.' Tolstoy, in his
> polemical book 'What is Art?' destroys the kind of conscious creativity that
> he believes Beethoven and the followers of the Romantic movement that he
> charted, Richard Wagner, for example, brought about to Europe, overthrowing
> the musical dominance of the spontaneous and universal music of Mozart.
>
> In essence, Mozart's music and its perfection are not a result of
> conscious processing, they come from a superior sense of natural harmony and
> an extremely rare capability of letting go of one's self and connecting with
> the universal spirit and listening to it in all its infinite beauty. There
> cannot be a more fitting description of ARR's music and how he has conjured
> his magical output over the years; and it is no accident that the West would
> offer up their ideal for comparison with the best the East has offered to
> date. That sort of taste, a sincere kinship with the natural harmony and
> beauty of the universe, with God, if you will, years in an industry cannot
> fade away or dilute, and, if anything, I can confidently say that ARR's
> taste has, over the years, been refined like fine old wine, and I have not
> witnessed an instance where his aesthetic judgment, given the proper
> opportunities, has faltered beyond identification. In his choice of movies,
> directors, and lyrics, there maybe exceptions, but I will address these in a
> later category.
>
> It is difficult to pin down one or two works from the 92-96 period in
> which, like Rano said, beauty oozed out of every single phrase that he
> weaved, but I will pick two of my favorite songs 'Kannalane' from Bombay
> (95) and 'Uyirum Neeye' from Pavitra (94) in which I think ARR achieves the
> highest form of perfection. Sometime back, I analyzed the beauty of the song
> Uyirum Neeye from a conceptual viewpoint, so if anybody is interested, let
> me know and I will send it to you or post it on the forum. Kannalane (or
> Kehna Hai Kya), I hear, has entered the music textbooks in certain parts of
> the world (Canada, if I recall correctly)! Yes, these are songs of superior
> beauty that they have that universal appeal that Tolstoy hailed as the
> finest ingredient of the greatest of art.
>
> What about now? What are the ARR compositions within the past 5 years
> which evoke the same feelings in me? Piya Ho from Water (2005) and Do Kadam
> from Meenaxi (2004) for sure are my favorites from this period with Tere
> Bina from Guru not too far off. When I refer to the perfection of these
> songs, I mean that I don't feel that I need to remove any part, any phrase,
> any instrument, sound or note, everything is in the right place at the right
> time! If anybody felt differently about these songs, I would be curious to
> know which parts destroy the perfection of these songs. I can write an essay
> on the song Do Kadam and will do soon so that I can back up my feelings just
> like I did with Uyirum Neeye. Do Kadam is so personal for me that I don't
> want to hold it up as universal! This song symbolizes what ARR and I share
> in silence without speaking a single word with each-other, but by connecting
> to the same universal spirit that we both trust wholeheartedly and by whose
> mysteriou