Dasun/ Chord, I think one of you posed an audio piece that was created by you. Can you repost it again? I am not able to find it in my inbox? I hope I am not smoking anything:-)
On 2/1/08, Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Dasun, > > What is ur feel abt "Anbe idhu" from Rhythm... I think this is also a > rebelious song itself.... after Thee Thee I count this one. > Also "Desh mere" is rebelious lyrically and musically too (From TLOBS) > What do u think abt "Dacaoit Duel" from WOHAE? > Like an Eagle from Bombay Dreams > Pls Sir (Boys) is also a new genre itself (may not be a rebel but > musically very new to ear) > Girlfreind (Boys) is defe a rebel song to me!! > Dil se ending score ...true rebelious > innisai (GF)... > Kunjum mainakale (KK) isn't a rebel as a romantic song (I never heard > such romantic rebel before)? > Vellai Pukal... its a rebel song to me with no weapons no noise... rebel > can be done piecefully Rahman roved that > The whole RDB album is rebelious (including awesome BMG) > O humdum (Sathiya) this is another new genre introduced by none other than > Rahman... this is also 1st of its kind > Chotta chotta (Tajmahal)... what a melody and blend of flute... again > never heard this kind of song (if anyone heard anything like this pls let us > know...we will enjoy that too) > > > Till now I remeber these after Thiruda Thiruda (that is the best by Rahman > in my opinion). Anyway new sound or rebel songs will be growing in my list. > > Arijit > > > On 31/01/2008, Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Shah Navas, > > > > Sorry for the delayed reply. From a purely intuitive level, Thamizha > > Thamizha didn't strike me as innovatively original, to qualify my use of the > > term original now. Thee Thee just jumps at you when you listen to it as > > incredibly new...I mean I haven't heard a single song like that since > > then..where the base guitar is used to amazing effect...that was that pure > > daring, rebellious freshness that I was looking for...Dil Se Re perhaps > > comes closest to that kind of in-your-face creativity. I guess there is an > > element of high energy that you look for in things like that, and Thamizha > > Thamizha, though it has energy, is more of a soulful composition than > > energetic. I would love to have another one like Dil Se or Thee Thee where > > you just have to stop everything you do and drop your jaws! :) > > > > You are certainly entitled to your opinion; I hope that clarifies my > > point of view. Good stuff..let's keep expanding. :) > > > > Take care, > > Dasun > > > > ------------------------------ > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:05:32 +0530 > > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality > > > > Dasun says >>Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan, > > and Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly crafted > > albums, but, not the most original. > > > > Dasun, > > > > I request you to elaborate on this. I don't have any music knowledge. > > But I see 'Thee Thee' from 'Thiruda Thiruda' and 'Tamizha Tamizha' from > > 'Roja' loosely have the same structure. Both the songs start with a slow > > melody and moves into a contrasting plane with burst of sound and vocals and > > resumes back the melody. > > > > It's like 2 different songs are interwoven into one. Still they convey a > > unified theme. In that sense 'Tamizha Tamizha' is more original to me as > > it's a patriotic song which expresses many moods - hope, anger, motivation, > > depression and the lyrics similarly matches the music or vice versa. > > > > But if you take 'Thee Thee', the doesn't necessarily depict a theme or a > > situation, rather doesn't even match the picturisation. I feel it was more > > of an experiment by Rahman and Manirathnam included the song (like most of > > the times). If you see both these songs in this context 'Tamizha > > Tamizha' is more original. > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2008 12:28 PM, shanavas.chemmamkuzhi < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dasun is talking about 92-96 era. Earth released on 98. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > well I feel thats nonsense. You can see his original works in > > earth then > > > onto lagaan and then upto swades atleast. Not to mention water ! > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2008 12:08 PM, : Avinash : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Dasun.. That's really well thought, in depth writeup man. > > You > > > > really stole my words! :) I was thinking, how to explain 'chord' > > > > about defining ARR standards and you perfectly reflected my > > > > mind.. :) Keep it flowing.. > > > > > > > > Thanks.. > > > > -Avinash > > > > > > > > > > -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans% > > 40yahoogroups.com>, Dasun > > > > > > Abeysekera <dtdja@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Originality > > > > > > > > > > The most original songs of the 92-96 era, in my opinion, are > > Thee > > > > Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (93) and Mettupodu from Duet (94); and > > > > their respective albums too can be called the most original from > > > > ARR's highest creative standpoint. Roja would certainly have to > > be > > > > considered original if we compare ARR's originality to the > > relative > > > > originality of the musical backdrop of that era, but that is not > > what > > > > we are attempting here; I feel that compared with the > > aforementioned > > > > albums, Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan, > > and > > > > Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly > > > > crafted albums, but, not the most original; again, please keep in > > > > mind that my comparisons are confined to ARR's body of work and > > not > > > > extended to any comparison's with the work by any of his composer > > > > peers. > > > > > > > > > > Thiruda Thiruda (93) was a breakthrough album for ARR as he was > > > > able to match, if not exceed, the expectations surrounding his > > second > > > > post-Illayaraja Mani Ratnam production after Roja, which could > > not > > > > have been an easy task for a 25 year old who thought his first > > movie > > > > album would be his last! Thee Thee's stunning energy and > > freshness is > > > > only the icing on the cake after the beautiful vocal tapestry of > > > > Raasathi, the operatic grandeur of Veerapandi Kottayile, and > > barring > > > > its close references to Michael Jackson-like dance beats, > > > > Chandralekha as well. Duet (94), on the other hand, with an > > > > unprecedented use of Kadiri Gopalnath and his saxophone to > > showcase > > > > Carnatic music, was quite a daringly original attempt for a > > movie; to > > > > say both maestros pulled it off with shocking success, would be > > an > > > > understatement. > > > > > > > > > > So, has there been a song/album of that calibre in recent > > times? I > > > > think it will be an accurate statement to say that there has not > > been > > > > a song like Thee Thee or Mettupodu in recent times, certainly > > not a > > > > conceptually original album of Duet's kind, and most surely not > > an > > > > album for an Indian movie. Now why could that be? First of all, > > as > > > > you lose your youthful freshness and become enmeshed in a > > system, you > > > > lose a significant share of that rebellious spirit. Albert > > Einstein > > > > said during his latter years when he went on his quest to > > discover a > > > > Unified Field Theory, how much he wished he had that same > > rebellious > > > > spirit which fuelled his strength of mind and imaginative powers > > to > > > > overthrow the revered Laws of Sir Isaac Newton and his universe > > of > > > > absolute time and space with the new Relativity Theory. > > Similarly, in > > > > United States presidential politics, Sen. Barack Obama is > > touting his > > > > freshness in Washington as one of his biggest strengths for > > bringing > > > > about real change to the country. So, yes, time spent in any > > > > environment can significantly reduce your capacity for daring and > > > > originality, which is what we are seeing with ARR in India. > > However, > > > > let us not forget that we owe much of the advancement of the > > quality > > > > of Indian music to him and let's not be surprised if his most > > > > original work comes from his work abroad because that > > environment is > > > > still new to him and he has many colors to show to the rest of > > the > > > > world where he is not yet legend! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! > > > > > http://biggestloser.msn.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we > > give. 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