Re: [arr] Provoked Audio may not release!
This is most disappointing news! I hope ARR/Jag Mundhra will pass on the music score to them for a release. Vij/Rano, Could you check with ARR to see what's happening on this regard? If ARR is looking for more scoring projects in the West (like what he's doing in Golden Age; even there it is Armstrong who is leading the project) more of his music scores need to be released. What's worrying is that Eros is looking at only the songs to be the selling-point. When will instrumental score ever be considered sellable in India? There are instances of score releases like Black, Eklavya and Sarkar but all those were big projects (with the advantage of Bachchan acting and hence more publicity). Provoked is a small film (even with Aishwarya Rai) so I can partly understand Eros' unwillingness. What about foreign music labels? Or ARR's own upcoming label? Heck, if it is so expensive why not try an internet release on Itunes or something similar? RR - Original Message From: "~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 7:17:25 AM Subject: [arr] Provoked Audio may not release! Hii Just spoke to the Marketing Head of Eros Music...its a pity they r not thinking of releasing the Audio of Provoked. He said there r only 2 songs (1 Eng, 1 Hindi) & the rest r bgms..but they've not yet recd any Bgms from ARR or the director. So, they r still waiting to decide. He said that the songs cud release as a compilation sum time later with another movie. Thats really stupid!!! I strongly feel, they shd rel it as an OST. The same was dun with 'Eklavya'. It had only 2 songs n others were theme music. They released it after the film. They r not yet sure...so lets hope for the best! For the time...lets give justice to SIVAJI...its not yet out in India...but soon we'll get it... njoy swaps 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
Re: [arr] TOI reviews Mangal Pandey; music faces more opprobrium
Nikhat Kazmi writes: "But the major disappointment is the music score. AR Rahman gives us an album with no shelf life..." The music score? One would expect critics to know the difference between the score (or BGM) and soundtrack. RR --- Gopal Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://photos21.flickr.com/33781372_bea33a3d89_o.jpg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hqq3k5s/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123995704/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOO&cmpgn=GRP&RTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/";>What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good. ~-> This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] The downloading debate
Karthik, You're taking the 'live with it' statement out of context. I'm not asking anyone to accept the current situation and adjust. What I said was that if you made the decision of getting the cassette, went and bought it, then thats all you got (meaning to say, do not download mp3). You are right in pointing out that we must protest in order for them to think about us. But the kind of protest that you suggested (buy cassettes, download mp3) is not the right way to go about it. We dont have to break laws to get noticed. > The morality issue arises when I perhaps cannot > afford to buy CDs and > opt to download it free. I strongly believe I'm > protesting here. You may call it just a protest. I would call it breaking the law. Despite the unfairness of the situation (over priced cds, not enough music on cds) not being able to afford something does not justify your obtaining it illegally. There have to be some forms of protests that do not involve breaking the law. Jagdeep points out the huge disparity between the cost of a blank cd and a blank cassette. I fear he's right that audio companies are banking on revenues from cd sales by hiking up the price to whatever they find convenient (even thought end cost of cd may be less than cassette). If there was a better awareness of this in media outlets... say if someone in this group can get a member of the media to highlight the economics of cd versus cassette production and talk about how we're getting the short shrift, then that would be great start. RR __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] The downloading debate
Karthik, You raise some interesting questions here. I hope my efforts in joining this discussion arent misconstrued as a 'know-it-all Taran Adarsh' answering the questions. > Who gets to lose when we fans download mp3s and not > buy the original > CDs/ Tapes? Rahman or the music label? The way I understand it is that the producer sells the audio rights to the music label that offers him the 'best' price. Not buying original tapes/cds would make the music labels undergo a loss. Consequently they'd offer a lower price next time, and hence the producer gets lesser from the audio sales rights. That possibly extrapolates to music composers getting lesser from the producers the next time. If I'm not mistaken one recent article said that audio sales havent been too good for the Tamil film industry and many folks (including ARR) have reduced the rates they charge. > If the music label loses, will not go to Rahman > again? Was it his > mistake in the first place? I guess a number of factors come to play here when a music release turns to be a loss- 1) The producer/ music label. Did they do their job in generating enough publicity through media outlets for the product? 2) The composer. Did he/she deliver an album that the public will like? 3) The movie. Some audio sales are said to pick up after the movie is released. If the movie was a damp squib then will it help in making the audio sales any better after its release. > Why do music labels force people to buy a CD, that > can otherwise > accomodate a lot more, that has only 6 tracks? > What is stopping them from innovating simple things > - include BGMs, comment by the composer, ... extras? Excellent point! It would be great if we could have those extra features like film score (BGM), comments and such. But how many folks have completed the film score before the date of the audio release? Isnt the audio typically released a month before the movie is? The movie goes to post-production status around then and I assume thats when the score, final edits, sound mixing... is done. ARR might have completed the film score before the audio release date but are others doing it that way too? Aside from that I personally feel that much of todays film score (am talking in general. not pinpointing ARR) is a hodge-podge job with multiple inspirations. I think Autograph conveniently used Horner's Braveheart theme and a popular song (the name eludes me at the moment but its possibly 'Every Breath You Take'). Yuvan Shankar Raja used a nice chunk from Ennio Morricone's Moses theme for Punnagai Poove. The Tamil film Jithan used Joe Hisaishi's Kikujiro theme a number of times. I guess everyone knows about Deva and his brother ripping off Brad Fiedel's Terminator theme not just in Baasha but also in Bhagavathy. Would those who compose the score want to get into trouble when they release those on CD and leave it for closer scrutiny? Also not all music directors compose the BGM as well. Would the music director like to share space with the score composer in the audio release? Music comments and making-of-soundtrack would be great but are there enough interested folks for the music companies to include that as a regular feature? If the score is recorded at an orchestra in US or Europe then there are usually reuse fees to be paid to the musicians union. Here's a link that talks abt that in more detail- http://tinyurl.com/cqc4c Some of the extra features may cost money to include. Does that offset the expenses involved with the cd production and how much revenue they expect from it? > I usually download mp3s and buy only cassettes - for > two reasons. To > play in my car and to not feel guilty >... In the bottorrent forums that I > usually download from, > I was able to see nearly 700 seeds (people who have > downloaded fully Karthik, if you're the guy who's running the fabulous ITwoFS then I'm disheartened to know that you're illegally getting a higher quality product while paying for something lower. You nail music-pirates at your site while (I fear) you're guilty of some sort of music piracy as well. It defeats, in part, what you're trying to say with ITwoFs. You blasted Sandeep Chowta for crediting only some of his rip-offs/inspirations in Pyar Tune Kya Kiya while he left others uncredited. And now you're saying that you paid for a cassette but got the mp3s for free!! > tracks available in iTunes for 99 cents is available > in many other > torrents and P2Ps like soulseek/ Kazaa/ eMule, for > free! And still > iTunes succeeds. And how? The success of legal paid-for downloads is largely due to the massive crackdown on file sharing systems. Granted that they havent caught everyone, but the RIAA is getting there. The fines and convictions meted out to the pirates act as a deterrent to folks who are potential illegal-content providers. People know that they could get into trouble for pirated mp3. 99cents is a terrific deal compared to a lot of headache
[arr] quick question on ARR's New
Could someone tell me which music company released ARR's 'New' (tamil)? Was it Sony Music India? Thanks, RR __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
