Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Dear Vivek, My intentions were never to advertise my inconsequential meets with AR bhai. Most in the forum already knows of whatever little time I have spent with him. He is like a brother to me, first and foremost, his being an MD or a legend is now secondary to me. The point I was trying to make needed more telling perhaps. See, I had at many instances told AR bhai about the success of various movies and scripts and he would sometime agree and sometimes he wouldn't. One such instance occurred with Dhoom 2. I told him that it would bomb because of a weak script and he insisted that it wouldn't because of marketing and cast no matter how bad the script was. He has told me that these were the scales of movie making needed to be attempted so that the bollywood grows in size. He has an acute sense of what worked and what didn't. That was what I was trying to say. I worded it wrongly I think. But if you look closely at his films in the past three or four years, you will see, he has chosen scripts that were both challenging and different to what both Tamil and hindi films are known to forward. His tenacity in accepting a swades, RDB, JA, Guru... and many others of its like instead of many other big films that he was offered is testament that he wants to achieve. He has always stated that his musical contrubutions are wasted if a film fails and he would like to do films which succeed or for that matter have at the least an impact on the viewers minds. Ar Bhai is a team player. And no matter how much you or anyone says that he's shoddy at choosing scripts, my first hand experience is that atleast in the last half a decade he has tried to only do movies/scripts that he knows will have an impact or that is entertaining. Some movies have faltered because of the maker but the scripts had what you call dum. Execution was bad perhaps, marketing also. You know when someone makes choices that gets him so much recognition for his work both abroad and in India.you would think its a given that he knows something about what he is doing. You would think that since 95% of his work are films and he is known for them that its a given that he knows whats a good film and whats not. If not is it just luck then? There are many composers out there.why not the same consistency in their work? Tell me, do 90% of all the worlds critics know nothing about good scripts? And even if they didn't...do western audiences not have the thinking capacity that a mere viewer in India, Bangladesh or Pakistan have? Its not a question of superiority, its a question of whether a huge number of people are connecting to the product in question which is entertaining them...worldwide.the answer to the question is an emphatic yes! So how do you measure whats a good film or bad? How can you tell me that a film's script success or failure lies in something else and not the applause of the audience and the appreciation of the crowd who watches it? We can then get into a debate about GOOD SCRIPTS thats not crowd pleasers and Bad scripts that are and how that is measured but this is niether the time nor the place to do so and compared to the shit hollywood produces day in and day out, SDM ranks above them for many reasons..the storytelling is innovative, to me, personally that is. No one said its an earth shattering story of new epic proportions. Everyone is saying its a well made film with a simple story. Another two cents from me! Take Care. Matthew On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 5:18 AM, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@yahoo.com wrote: as much as you would want to advertise that you have watched movies along with thalaivar, it is a very well known fact that ARR is pretty bad in choosing script. We all know ARR in and out. Now, just because ARR had chosen to do SDM doesn't make it's script one in a million. I think it is a beaten-to-death run-off-the-mill script. Love makes you blind you see. Frankly, I can tell you, I believe ARR didnot do SDM because he was memerised by the script but because it provided new avenues and challenges to channel his creative blood and energy. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... wrote: I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before. Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a dismal world armed with hope, perseverance,
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
On 12/27/2008 5:24 PM India Time, _Matthew Islam_ wrote: Dear Vivek, My intentions were never to advertise my inconsequential meets with AR bhai. Meeting someone whom we are a fan of is a great experience, is fun, is a memory that gets etched in our mind and stays with us for life. There is nothing wrong at all if someone tells about his meeting with ARR. If someone finds that it is some kind of show-off, let it be. I think only a person who is frustrated in not being able to meet ARR till now would say so, and would feel hurt or unprivileged when someone else tells about his meeting with ARR. I hope that Vivek also gets a chance to meet ARR and to talk with him. Then, Vivek will rise to the roof of the tallest building in his city and shout to everybody about his meeting with ARR. And that is perfectly OK with me. :-) So, dear Matthew and others who have met ARR, do tell us more about your meetings with him. -- Rawat Most in the forum already knows of whatever little time I have spent with him. He is like a brother to me, first and foremost, his being an MD or a legend is now secondary to me. The point I was trying to make needed more telling perhaps. See, I had at many instances told AR bhai about the success of various movies and scripts and he would sometime agree and sometimes he wouldn't. One such instance occurred with Dhoom 2. I told him that it would bomb because of a weak script and he insisted that it wouldn't because of marketing and cast no matter how bad the script was. He has told me that these were the scales of movie making needed to be attempted so that the bollywood grows in size. He has an acute sense of what worked and what didn't. That was what I was trying to say. I worded it wrongly I think. But if you look closely at his films in the past three or four years, you will see, he has chosen scripts that were both challenging and different to what both Tamil and hindi films are known to forward. His tenacity in accepting a swades, RDB, JA, Guru... and many others of its like instead of many other big films that he was offered is testament that he wants to achieve. He has always stated that his musical contrubutions are wasted if a film fails and he would like to do films which succeed or for that matter have at the least an impact on the viewers minds. Ar Bhai is a team player. And no matter how much you or anyone says that he's shoddy at choosing scripts, my first hand experience is that atleast in the last half a decade he has tried to only do movies/scripts that he knows will have an impact or that is entertaining. Some movies have faltered because of the maker but the scripts had what you call dum. Execution was bad perhaps, marketing also. You know when someone makes choices that gets him so much recognition for his work both abroad and in India.you would think its a given that he knows something about what he is doing. You would think that since 95% of his work are films and he is known for them that its a given that he knows whats a good film and whats not. If not is it just luck then? There are many composers out there.why not the same consistency in their work? Tell me, do 90% of all the worlds critics know nothing about good scripts? And even if they didn't...do western audiences not have the thinking capacity that a mere viewer in India, Bangladesh or Pakistan have? Its not a question of superiority, its a question of whether a huge number of people are connecting to the product in question which is entertaining them...worldwide.the answer to the question is an emphatic yes! So how do you measure whats a good film or bad? How can you tell me that a film's script success or failure lies in something else and not the applause of the audience and the appreciation of the crowd who watches it? We can then get into a debate about GOOD SCRIPTS thats not crowd pleasers and Bad scripts that are and how that is measured but this is niether the time nor the place to do so and compared to the shit hollywood produces day in and day out, SDM ranks above them for many reasons..the storytelling is innovative, to me, personally that is. No one said its an earth shattering story of new epic proportions. Everyone is saying its a well made film with a simple story. Another two cents from me! Take Care. Matthew Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * Your email
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Then, Vivek will rise to the roof of the tallest building in his city and shout to everybody about his meeting with ARR. And that is That goes without saying the context here is different. and, I do remember once mathew interviewing ARR on his visit to london quite some time back. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 12/27/2008 5:24 PM India Time, _Matthew Islam_ wrote: Dear Vivek, My intentions were never to advertise my inconsequential meets with AR bhai. Meeting someone whom we are a fan of is a great experience, is fun, is a memory that gets etched in our mind and stays with us for life. There is nothing wrong at all if someone tells about his meeting with ARR. If someone finds that it is some kind of show-off, let it be. I think only a person who is frustrated in not being able to meet ARR till now would say so, and would feel hurt or unprivileged when someone else tells about his meeting with ARR. I hope that Vivek also gets a chance to meet ARR and to talk with him. Then, Vivek will rise to the roof of the tallest building in his city and shout to everybody about his meeting with ARR. And that is perfectly OK with me. :-) So, dear Matthew and others who have met ARR, do tell us more about your meetings with him. -- Rawat Most in the forum already knows of whatever little time I have spent with him. He is like a brother to me, first and foremost, his being an MD or a legend is now secondary to me. The point I was trying to make needed more telling perhaps. See, I had at many instances told AR bhai about the success of various movies and scripts and he would sometime agree and sometimes he wouldn't. One such instance occurred with Dhoom 2. I told him that it would bomb because of a weak script and he insisted that it wouldn't because of marketing and cast no matter how bad the script was. He has told me that these were the scales of movie making needed to be attempted so that the bollywood grows in size. He has an acute sense of what worked and what didn't. That was what I was trying to say. I worded it wrongly I think. But if you look closely at his films in the past three or four years, you will see, he has chosen scripts that were both challenging and different to what both Tamil and hindi films are known to forward. His tenacity in accepting a swades, RDB, JA, Guru... and many others of its like instead of many other big films that he was offered is testament that he wants to achieve. He has always stated that his musical contrubutions are wasted if a film fails and he would like to do films which succeed or for that matter have at the least an impact on the viewers minds. Ar Bhai is a team player. And no matter how much you or anyone says that he's shoddy at choosing scripts, my first hand experience is that atleast in the last half a decade he has tried to only do movies/scripts that he knows will have an impact or that is entertaining. Some movies have faltered because of the maker but the scripts had what you call dum. Execution was bad perhaps, marketing also. You know when someone makes choices that gets him so much recognition for his work both abroad and in India.you would think its a given that he knows something about what he is doing. You would think that since 95% of his work are films and he is known for them that its a given that he knows whats a good film and whats not. If not is it just luck then? There are many composers out there.why not the same consistency in their work? Tell me, do 90% of all the worlds critics know nothing about good scripts? And even if they didn't...do western audiences not have the thinking capacity that a mere viewer in India, Bangladesh or Pakistan have? Its not a question of superiority, its a question of whether a huge number of people are connecting to the product in question which is entertaining them...worldwide.the answer to the question is an emphatic yes! So how do you measure whats a good film or bad? How can you tell me that a film's script success or failure lies in something else and not the applause of the audience and the appreciation of the crowd who watches it? We can then get into a debate about GOOD SCRIPTS thats not crowd pleasers and Bad scripts that are and how that is measured but this is niether the time nor the place to do so and compared to the shit hollywood produces day in and day out, SDM ranks above them for many reasons..the storytelling is innovative, to me, personally that is. No one said its an earth shattering story of new epic proportions. Everyone is saying its a well made film with a simple story. Another two cents from me! Take Care. Matthew
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before. Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality. My two cents. Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great instinct about films. Regards, Matthew Islam Sent from my iPhone On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@yahoo.com wrote: Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western countries it was never before told experience/story. me too, loved kid Jamal the most! There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits, loved that as well :D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Agree with Gomzy here. Movie is OKAY. I loved Jamal's (Kid artist) performance - oh, you have mentioned this too. :) On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ). -- Sent from my very old 386 machine.
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Like i said, for us Indians, its really an ordinary movie. I know why the westeners are raving about it. But we have had such gripping stories told before and I as an Indian did not feel and could not connect with the movie at certain points. Sample this: The two kids speak polished english and hindi with a british accent.How can i as an Indian make any connection with that? I hope you get what i tried to say. My two cents :) On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Matthew Islam matthewis...@gmail.comwrote: I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before. Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality. My two cents. Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great instinct about films. Regards, Matthew Islam Sent from my iPhone On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@yahoo.com wrote: Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western countries it was never before told experience/story. me too, loved kid Jamal the most! There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits, loved that as well :D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Hmm. That is a fair point. Hadn't thought of it that way. My friends and I were so gripped by the film that it didn't cross our mind. Thats pretty clever. Use some hindi and a lot of english.and some people would not notice...like us. Fair point. I get it. I assumed otherwise because I saw it with a few Bangladeshi's and Indians and they were gripped and we didn't question this. I hope it does well in India though when it comes out in January. Its got a LAagan type energy to it that makes me think, it will do well. Time will tell... Matthew On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: Like i said, for us Indians, its really an ordinary movie. I know why the westeners are raving about it. But we have had such gripping stories told before and I as an Indian did not feel and could not connect with the movie at certain points. Sample this: The two kids speak polished english and hindi with a british accent.How can i as an Indian make any connection with that? I hope you get what i tried to say. My two cents :) On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Matthew Islam matthewis...@gmail.comwrote: I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before. Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality. My two cents. Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great instinct about films. Regards, Matthew Islam Sent from my iPhone On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@yahoo.com wrote: Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western countries it was never before told experience/story. me too, loved kid Jamal the most! There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits, loved that as well :D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Guys, moving further, I thought Mumbai was amazingly captured by Anthony Dod Mantle with 3 different kinds of camera(including a SLR) I hope ARR and Mantle get the nod for oscar nominations. About BGM, Rahman has tweaked a lot especially on O saya and Mausam and escape which actually sounds amazing, different from the soundtrack on CD. Now I want the rip of DVD version when it gets released --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... wrote: Hmm. That is a fair point. Hadn't thought of it that way. My friends and I were so gripped by the film that it didn't cross our mind. Thats pretty clever. Use some hindi and a lot of english.and some people would not notice...like us. Fair point. I get it. I assumed otherwise because I saw it with a few Bangladeshi's and Indians and they were gripped and we didn't question this. I hope it does well in India though when it comes out in January. Its got a LAagan type energy to it that makes me think, it will do well. Time will tell... Matthew On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: Like i said, for us Indians, its really an ordinary movie. I know why the westeners are raving about it. But we have had such gripping stories told before and I as an Indian did not feel and could not connect with the movie at certain points. Sample this: The two kids speak polished english and hindi with a british accent.How can i as an Indian make any connection with that? I hope you get what i tried to say. My two cents :) On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Matthew Islam matthewis...@...wrote: I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before. Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality. My two cents. Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great instinct about films. Regards, Matthew Islam Sent from my iPhone On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@... wrote: Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western countries it was never before told experience/story. me too, loved kid Jamal the most! There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits, loved that as well :D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
as much as you would want to advertise that you have watched movies along with thalaivar, it is a very well known fact that ARR is pretty bad in choosing script. We all know ARR in and out. Now, just because ARR had chosen to do SDM doesn't make it's script one in a million. I think it is a beaten-to-death run-off-the-mill script. Love makes you blind you see. Frankly, I can tell you, I believe ARR didnot do SDM because he was memerised by the script but because it provided new avenues and challenges to channel his creative blood and energy. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... wrote: I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before. Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality. My two cents. Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great instinct about films. Regards, Matthew Islam Sent from my iPhone On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@... wrote: Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western countries it was never before told experience/story. me too, loved kid Jamal the most! There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits, loved that as well :D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy⢠gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Please treat seniors with some respect. Now its come to this huh On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 4:48 AM, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@yahoo.com wrote: as much as you would want to advertise that you have watched movies along with thalaivar, it is a very well known fact that ARR is pretty bad in choosing script. We all know ARR in and out. Now, just because ARR had chosen to do SDM doesn't make it's script one in a million. I think it is a beaten-to-death run-off-the-mill script. Love makes you blind you see. Frankly, I can tell you, I believe ARR didnot do SDM because he was memerised by the script but because it provided new avenues and challenges to channel his creative blood and energy. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... wrote: I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before. Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality. My two cents. Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great instinct about films. Regards, Matthew Islam Sent from my iPhone On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@... wrote: Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western countries it was never before told experience/story. me too, loved kid Jamal the most! There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits, loved that as well :D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gomzyâ„¢ gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Can you tell me any composer who has been great in choosing scripts? On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 4:48 AM, vivek iiivivekoberoi...@yahoo.com wrote: as much as you would want to advertise that you have watched movies along with thalaivar, it is a very well known fact that ARR is pretty bad in choosing script. We all know ARR in and out. Now, just because ARR had chosen to do SDM doesn't make it's script one in a million. I think it is a beaten-to-death run-off-the-mill script. Love makes you blind you see. Frankly, I can tell you, I believe ARR didnot do SDM because he was memerised by the script but because it provided new avenues and challenges to channel his creative blood and energy. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Matthew Islam matthewis...@... wrote: I beg to differ on the ordinary bit. What sets it apart is the fact that it's a simple story but look at the treatment. What people are raving about is the tight script, music, acting and editing. The narrative has such force that the entire product over powers your senses. Successful films are ones which leaves you with an experience that you remember after you have left the theaters. I saw most people I know come out with a smile. Yes, it's not an extraordinary story. In todays age it's hard to tell one that we haven't heard before but what a beautiful execution of a story we have heard before. Our world is a dark one, as such when a character triumphs over such a dismal world armed with hope, perseverance, love, charm and faith. It displays a kind of tale that's considered extraordinary and your inner human nature falls in love with it. My friends in Bangladesh to ones in Mexico report unanimously that they haven't connected with a movie from their hearts, in a long while, like they have with SDM. The fuss therefore is about a movie which tells us what we know already, especially westerners (to think otherwise in a blanket bracketing is ignorant) in a way that's cinematically engaging is a victory for the makers of the film. So when a film as fresh and well made like this shows up in the western world they appreciate in hoards the brilliance of the work on display that is so different than the formula films or negative toned films that the west tends to make or stories of that natures they they seem to tell when you can get the effect from stories that are a little more close to reality. My two cents. Btw, AR Bhai displays his great knowledge of scripts that he composes for by choosing to do SDM or of being able to discern a bad movie from a good one when he sees it. From having seen movies with him, I know he has a great instinct about films. Regards, Matthew Islam Sent from my iPhone On 26 Dec 2008, at 11:25, rivjot riv...@... wrote: Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western countries it was never before told experience/story. me too, loved kid Jamal the most! There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits, loved that as well :D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gomzyâ„¢ gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
On 12/27/2008 9:33 AM India Time, _Gomzy™_ wrote: Can you tell me any composer who has been great in choosing scripts? But, what is the drawback in ARR choosing SDM? When I had first heard that ARR has done something called SDM, I thought it would be another of those Deepa Mehta type of movies that ARR did because he doesn't know how to say no, but, see what all publicity, what all nomination, what all international focus SDM has got to ARR and to India. So, now I feel that ARR was absolutely correct in doing SDM. No other movie has got this much publicity out of India. -- Rawat Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:arrahmanfans-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:arrahmanfans-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Most of my Indian friends shared shades of the same opinion But for me , it was movie back to its basics ... a simple love story with a happy ending , set in an totally charming , rude , visually stunning city ... On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
Re: [ARR] For an Indian , SDM is ordinary.
Very true, it was ordinary for Indian audience, but for western countries it was never before told experience/story. me too, loved kid Jamal the most! There was kinda unplugged version of O Saya at the end of end credits, loved that as well :D --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: Got to watch Slumdog Millionaire. I was wondering what all the fuss is about :) But since we have been used to so much cliche in our movies that we find a heart touching, soul stirring movie to be silly. But SDM isnt bad.Infact you will love it as the movie unfolds. Go watch it for the excellent performances, the music and for the youngest Jamal. The small kid is so adorable ( especially when he tries to get an autograph of AB ).
