Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Whose music taste are you talking about? ARR's? Kishore's? Giving an opinion is definitely acceptable. But making it to sound like a fact is not acceptable. I wouldn't mind if someone feels that Jai Ho's music is path breaking...maybe it is for them. But if he says it as a fact, then yes, I would have a problem with it. Likewise, I wouldn't mind if Kishore (or anyone for that matter) thinks that Ghajini is a mediocre or below average album. But when you undermine another person's interest/taste for liking the same, esp when you quote something like there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), then yes, you can bet that I'll have a problem with that! Btw, I don't like Ghajini but that doesn't make it a bad album. I hope you get my point. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_naga...@... wrote: As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Btw, I liked Ghajini. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_ck17@ wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
Yes, Please spare ghajini. and yes, please don't make assumptions.we are here for a reason. the reason why we bacame the FANS. we are not analyzing the music of a debutant Music director here.18 years is not short period or a shortime wonder! so , better assumption would always be okay..this is not my type ..but there are a lot who like this. Or This is my Type! but yea, there could be others who don't like it. otherwise what we are doing is doubting ourselves here! Regards Jamshid --- On Wed, 9/1/10, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 6:39 PM As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Btw, I liked Ghajini. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
On 9/2/2010 9:13 AM India Time, _Gayathri_ wrote: Btw, I don't like Ghajini but that doesn't make it a bad album. I hope you get my point. Beautifully said. Only those members who can understand and internalize the essence of the above would make a good critic. I also didn't like Ghajini much (except kaise mujhe tu, later on) but I just said that it was not my type of album. I din't go bashing it. It is ok with me if others like it. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same. Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
As per his music taste its mediocre. Would you be coming up with 'Who are we to say..' had he said all his works are path breaking and music redefining? Btw, I liked Ghajini. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gayathri Chandrakasan gayathri_c...@... wrote: When liking a music depends on one's taste and interest, who are we to judge what is mediocre and what is not? --- On Sun, 8/29/10, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... Subject: Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement: To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 9:25 PM  Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same.  Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments.  On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote:  This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same. Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.