Re: [arr] Pronounciation ( Diction)
Ha Ha, Vijay, I loved your example of Michael jackson. truly, i think he is the only singer in english that most of westerner's need lyric books to understand [:)] . Also in 'They really don't care about us' song he mispronounces lot of words. Because, he want to express anger with that song. Similerly, I think Rahman gives more importance to emotions & mood of the song when singer's singing. But he definitely have to give urdu words a true justice becoz it is most respected dialect in India Just my opinions... -Avinash --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Works both ways.wat bout hindi singers messing up tamil words...u should hear michael jackson without the lyrics book..in the album bad he pronounces come on as shum on..just meant it as a point..no offence. Enjoy the music > > Reply Header ________ > Subject: [arr] Pronounciation ( Diction) > Author: "Manzur S" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 03rd September 2007 03:09 > > I do not agree one studies music from the child hood it sure be an > advantage if that musician or singer should take up the language along > with the music to complete the nuances of the music. it leaves a bad > taste in the mouths when a singer mipronounces the word. Not only ARR > but almost every singer from other parts of country also commit these > blunders. I am recently touched by a song , sung by Kunal Ganjawala for > the film BABUL . The song is excellent other wise. he sung the song > beautifully but he messed-up the song in the last by saying Gh- > umnamiyan bhi Dedo ( it should have been GumNaamiyan Bhi Dedo) or Hansi > not Haseen and here the whole couplet becomes meaningless for Haseen > instead of Hansi. Senior artists such as Lata Mangeshkar, Kavita > krishnamurthy ,Kishore Kumar , Mukesh, learned urdu diction or they > check their lines thoroughly before recording of the song. > Music directors such as Madan Mohan , Salil chaudhry, OP Nayyar, or > even LP used to have Urdu literate people in their teams to make sure > of proper diction. Naushad , Khayyam had an advantage of coming from > Urdu speaking backgrounds. some actors also have urdu teachers taking > care of their diction. >
Re: [arr] Pronounciation ( Diction)
Works both ways.wat bout hindi singers messing up tamil words...u should hear michael jackson without the lyrics book..in the album bad he pronounces come on as shum on..just meant it as a point..no offence. Enjoy the music Reply Header Subject:[arr] Pronounciation ( Diction) Author: "Manzur S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 03rd September 2007 03:09 I do not agree one studies music from the child hood it sure be an advantage if that musician or singer should take up the language along with the music to complete the nuances of the music. it leaves a bad taste in the mouths when a singer mipronounces the word. Not only ARR but almost every singer from other parts of country also commit these blunders. I am recently touched by a song , sung by Kunal Ganjawala for the film BABUL . The song is excellent other wise. he sung the song beautifully but he messed-up the song in the last by saying Gh- umnamiyan bhi Dedo ( it should have been GumNaamiyan Bhi Dedo) or Hansi not Haseen and here the whole couplet becomes meaningless for Haseen instead of Hansi. Senior artists such as Lata Mangeshkar, Kavita krishnamurthy ,Kishore Kumar , Mukesh, learned urdu diction or they check their lines thoroughly before recording of the song. Music directors such as Madan Mohan , Salil chaudhry, OP Nayyar, or even LP used to have Urdu literate people in their teams to make sure of proper diction. Naushad , Khayyam had an advantage of coming from Urdu speaking backgrounds. some actors also have urdu teachers taking care of their diction.
[arr] Pronounciation ( Diction)
I do not agree one studies music from the child hood it sure be an advantage if that musician or singer should take up the language along with the music to complete the nuances of the music. it leaves a bad taste in the mouths when a singer mipronounces the word. Not only ARR but almost every singer from other parts of country also commit these blunders. I am recently touched by a song , sung by Kunal Ganjawala for the film BABUL . The song is excellent other wise. he sung the song beautifully but he messed-up the song in the last by saying Gh- umnamiyan bhi Dedo ( it should have been GumNaamiyan Bhi Dedo) or Hansi not Haseen and here the whole couplet becomes meaningless for Haseen instead of Hansi. Senior artists such as Lata Mangeshkar, Kavita krishnamurthy ,Kishore Kumar , Mukesh, learned urdu diction or they check their lines thoroughly before recording of the song. Music directors such as Madan Mohan , Salil chaudhry, OP Nayyar, or even LP used to have Urdu literate people in their teams to make sure of proper diction. Naushad , Khayyam had an advantage of coming from Urdu speaking backgrounds. some actors also have urdu teachers taking care of their diction.
Re: [arr] Pronounciation ( Diction)
Ya he pronounced wrong at sometimes..but being South Indian it is difficult for him to pronounce Urdu words correctly Manzur S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys I would like to open a discussion on the diction which is very important in any language. we indians take advantage of our regional wey of pronouncing words. I wonder if the misspell or mis pronounce their oown language word or the stanza , how that sounds? take english , how we are careful in writing correct spellings of the words. it sure should apply to all the languages. people in recent olden days. My parents used to correct my mispronounced words for my urdu or english. ARR has mis-pronounced several times his hindi( which is in reality it is URDU words in his several songs.how about as music maestro , his orchestra or any musician did not play a correct note will he ignore it? then when singing a song why there should be som may diction flaws? Please comment' Regards Manzur Muktak Kanjilal - Try the revolutionary next-gen Yahoo! Mail. Click here.
[arr] Pronounciation ( Diction)
Hi guys I would like to open a discussion on the diction which is very important in any language. we indians take advantage of our regional wey of pronouncing words. I wonder if the misspell or mis pronounce their oown language word or the stanza , how that sounds? take english , how we are careful in writing correct spellings of the words. it sure should apply to all the languages. people in recent olden days. My parents used to correct my mispronounced words for my urdu or english. ARR has mis-pronounced several times his hindi( which is in reality it is URDU words in his several songs.how about as music maestro , his orchestra or any musician did not play a correct note will he ignore it? then when singing a song why there should be som may diction flaws? Please comment' Regards Manzur
