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thanks for your valuable comments. for me SALVADORE is the BEST of the lot hands down. such a truly haunting track. and btw i don't see any similarities with Jumbalaka. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Karthik Iyer jkm...@... wrote: Its been really long since i posted in this group due to my tight schedule, but today the moment i heard the soundtrack of COUPLES RETREAT i decided no matter how long it is going to take for me to go to bed i will come and share the experience in this group... I m just going to write the way i felt on hearing the soundtrack for the first time SAJNA ... no words... i could see OUR RAHMAN sir in the melody NANA I just have one question what is the capacity of Rahman sir's brain... as a musician i m little disappointed too... he is not letting off any style for others to touch... he is exploring every new possible way and becoming a master in that and gives a brilliant tune... and this one is a great track in the album Undress OH MY GAWD...!!! a brilliant blend of east and west... starting with ghatam and tampura and building brilliantly... SALVADORE TYPICAL RAHMANISH... i really love this track though i could feel traces of Jumbalakka in the begining... but still amazing guitars and this track is going to be a big new treat for western world KURU KURU: Indian language in Hollywood movie... and RAHMAN Sir's Voice... amazing new kind of melody to Indian audience and absolutely in west way... and reserving best to the last: ANIMAL SPIRIT *The Rahman* who inspired me to write music... who inspired me to play keyboard is here... right here... YEAH THIS is the track of album... amazing.. I saw 90s Rahman coming back... RAHMAN SIR HATS OFF TO YOU...!!! The rest of tracks are typical soundtracks which i am sure going to sound great with the movie... I wouldn't be surprised if RAHMAN sir becomes the first indian to win Academy awards continuously for 2 years... JAI HO Karthik Iyer
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Thanks for sharing your feelings! I too feel the same way you do! IN addition to the tracks you mentioned, I also liked Sharks, Intervention (Both with ARR's soaring vocals), Meeting Marcel (beautiful flute and rhythm with the Buddhist monk choir sounds), and I also found the piano theme to be very touching. I think the word genius is now an understatement for Boss. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Karthik Iyer jkm...@... wrote: Its been really long since i posted in this group due to my tight schedule, but today the moment i heard the soundtrack of COUPLES RETREAT i decided no matter how long it is going to take for me to go to bed i will come and share the experience in this group... I m just going to write the way i felt on hearing the soundtrack for the first time SAJNA ... no words... i could see OUR RAHMAN sir in the melody NANA I just have one question what is the capacity of Rahman sir's brain... as a musician i m little disappointed too... he is not letting off any style for others to touch... he is exploring every new possible way and becoming a master in that and gives a brilliant tune... and this one is a great track in the album Undress OH MY GAWD...!!! a brilliant blend of east and west... starting with ghatam and tampura and building brilliantly... SALVADORE TYPICAL RAHMANISH... i really love this track though i could feel traces of Jumbalakka in the begining... but still amazing guitars and this track is going to be a big new treat for western world KURU KURU: Indian language in Hollywood movie... and RAHMAN Sir's Voice... amazing new kind of melody to Indian audience and absolutely in west way... and reserving best to the last: ANIMAL SPIRIT *The Rahman* who inspired me to write music... who inspired me to play keyboard is here... right here... YEAH THIS is the track of album... amazing.. I saw 90s Rahman coming back... RAHMAN SIR HATS OFF TO YOU...!!! The rest of tracks are typical soundtracks which i am sure going to sound great with the movie... I wouldn't be surprised if RAHMAN sir becomes the first indian to win Academy awards continuously for 2 years... JAI HO Karthik Iyer
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Chord, agreed. Could you explain if you find a difference between Dil Se and Blue in terms of audio quality. Dil se had the same if not more layers of orchestrations, instruments used. One more question. I would find Yuva to be very close to blue in terms of genre and the feel. Dont you feel Yuva was higher in terms of audio quality? On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:38 PM, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Anand, Diff between Blue and CR 1) Blue has multiple layers, very dense, while CR is lighter in terms of quantity of arrangements, thus more breathing room and space in the tracks. 2) Blue's sound engineering team are composed of multiple people, using different platforms around the world (multisourced), hence some inconsistencies in terms of volumes, etc. (found that out through a good friend). Also, check out the sound credits in the Blue inlayso many people! CR's sound team appears to be more intimate and I think ARR may have supervised the sound better in CR. 3) The nature of Blue's music is loud and heavy, given it's an action and massala bollywood flick. CR's theme is more light and since it's mostly instrumental, allowed AR to show more pure artistic creativity in terms of sound and arrangements. BTW, I love Blue and CR both for different reasons. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Anand Bharathan an...@... wrote: Whew, what an extraordinary album CR is. If ARR can produce masterpieces like this in Hollywood, I wouldn't mind if he makes a tradeoff between Kollywood and Hollywood in favor of the latter. I mean reduce his assignments in Kolly, not abandon it altogether. And it shows how shortsighted we fans can be if we limit his genius to just the formulaic movies in India. As he himself has said that he likes to explore new avenues we should allow him to do just that otherwise risk his creativity getting stunted and a kind of boredom setting in. Looks like his creative genius needs to be challenged all the time. If it is, it is good for us fans as well. Also can the sound experts here throw light on the huge difference in sound quality between CR and Blue. After hearing CR, Blue now sounds to be totally muddled up and loud. Is it to do with a predominantly acoustic sounds cape of CR or just plainly our sound engineers have more to learn compared to their Western counterparts? From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ichord Sent: 27 September, 2009 12:48 AM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: Couples Retreat Soundtrack Review Bravo! Great job, Suresh! Now, that's what I call a great review, doing full justice to this exquisite soundtrack. I esp. like that you talked about the sounds, instruments, arrangements a lot, which really do deserve specific menttion in each track. I liked how you tried to connect the music to the visuals, giving more meaning to each track in context. Appreciated how you tried to put the comedy element in logical light, stating that the serious music is for those who are the butt of the jokes and who don't find it funny, but the rest do! Makes perfect sense! I love some of your descriptions, like, bed of soft strings.very classy! Lastly, you very nicely put this in perspective in comparison to Slumdog in that even though it won't gather the same attention and perhaps level of accolades as Slumdog, it still deserves to be celebrated as a beautifully strong entrance for Rahman into hollywood. I can see your knowledge and ear for good music is quite refined and I really appreciate that. The only thing I didn't agree with you was the criticism on Sajna Re, but I respect that opinion a lot because you explained in detail why you felt that way. Geez, I wish more people would write reviews like you do And yes, you very correctly stated that it used the same musical template as Dreams on Fire, which is what I thought too when I heard it. For me, the core strength of this soundtrack is in artistic, aural, and aesthetic beauty, not commercial potential. It's one of the most beautifully crafted compositionally and sonically mostly acoustic album by Rahman and to me, that's all I need to celebrate, regardless of movie success. That is the greatest distinction between this and Slumdog, which was more of a commercial, highly energized, stylish, electronic soundtrack. Both Slumdog and Couple's Retreat showcase ARR's versatility amazingly and I hope people here in the West recognize that. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.commailto: arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%2540yahoogroups.com , sureshmechnit sureshmechnit@ wrote: http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2009/09/listening
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Whew, what an extraordinary album CR is. If ARR can produce masterpieces like this in Hollywood, I wouldn't mind if he makes a tradeoff between Kollywood and Hollywood in favor of the latter. I mean reduce his assignments in Kolly, not abandon it altogether. And it shows how shortsighted we fans can be if we limit his genius to just the formulaic movies in India. As he himself has said that he likes to explore new avenues we should allow him to do just that otherwise risk his creativity getting stunted and a kind of boredom setting in. Looks like his creative genius needs to be challenged all the time. If it is, it is good for us fans as well. Also can the sound experts here throw light on the huge difference in sound quality between CR and Blue. After hearing CR, Blue now sounds to be totally muddled up and loud. Is it to do with a predominantly acoustic sounds cape of CR or just plainly our sound engineers have more to learn compared to their Western counterparts? From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ichord Sent: 27 September, 2009 12:48 AM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: Couples Retreat Soundtrack Review Bravo! Great job, Suresh! Now, that's what I call a great review, doing full justice to this exquisite soundtrack. I esp. like that you talked about the sounds, instruments, arrangements a lot, which really do deserve specific menttion in each track. I liked how you tried to connect the music to the visuals, giving more meaning to each track in context. Appreciated how you tried to put the comedy element in logical light, stating that the serious music is for those who are the butt of the jokes and who don't find it funny, but the rest do! Makes perfect sense! I love some of your descriptions, like, bed of soft strings.very classy! Lastly, you very nicely put this in perspective in comparison to Slumdog in that even though it won't gather the same attention and perhaps level of accolades as Slumdog, it still deserves to be celebrated as a beautifully strong entrance for Rahman into hollywood. I can see your knowledge and ear for good music is quite refined and I really appreciate that. The only thing I didn't agree with you was the criticism on Sajna Re, but I respect that opinion a lot because you explained in detail why you felt that way. Geez, I wish more people would write reviews like you do And yes, you very correctly stated that it used the same musical template as Dreams on Fire, which is what I thought too when I heard it. For me, the core strength of this soundtrack is in artistic, aural, and aesthetic beauty, not commercial potential. It's one of the most beautifully crafted compositionally and sonically mostly acoustic album by Rahman and to me, that's all I need to celebrate, regardless of movie success. That is the greatest distinction between this and Slumdog, which was more of a commercial, highly energized, stylish, electronic soundtrack. Both Slumdog and Couple's Retreat showcase ARR's versatility amazingly and I hope people here in the West recognize that. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com mailto:arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com , sureshmechnit sureshmech...@... wrote: http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2009/09/listening-couples-retreat.html
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Hey Anand, Diff between Blue and CR 1) Blue has multiple layers, very dense, while CR is lighter in terms of quantity of arrangements, thus more breathing room and space in the tracks. 2) Blue's sound engineering team are composed of multiple people, using different platforms around the world (multisourced), hence some inconsistencies in terms of volumes, etc. (found that out through a good friend). Also, check out the sound credits in the Blue inlayso many people! CR's sound team appears to be more intimate and I think ARR may have supervised the sound better in CR. 3) The nature of Blue's music is loud and heavy, given it's an action and massala bollywood flick. CR's theme is more light and since it's mostly instrumental, allowed AR to show more pure artistic creativity in terms of sound and arrangements. BTW, I love Blue and CR both for different reasons. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anand Bharathan an...@... wrote: Whew, what an extraordinary album CR is. If ARR can produce masterpieces like this in Hollywood, I wouldn't mind if he makes a tradeoff between Kollywood and Hollywood in favor of the latter. I mean reduce his assignments in Kolly, not abandon it altogether. And it shows how shortsighted we fans can be if we limit his genius to just the formulaic movies in India. As he himself has said that he likes to explore new avenues we should allow him to do just that otherwise risk his creativity getting stunted and a kind of boredom setting in. Looks like his creative genius needs to be challenged all the time. If it is, it is good for us fans as well. Also can the sound experts here throw light on the huge difference in sound quality between CR and Blue. After hearing CR, Blue now sounds to be totally muddled up and loud. Is it to do with a predominantly acoustic sounds cape of CR or just plainly our sound engineers have more to learn compared to their Western counterparts? From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ichord Sent: 27 September, 2009 12:48 AM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: Couples Retreat Soundtrack Review Bravo! Great job, Suresh! Now, that's what I call a great review, doing full justice to this exquisite soundtrack. I esp. like that you talked about the sounds, instruments, arrangements a lot, which really do deserve specific menttion in each track. I liked how you tried to connect the music to the visuals, giving more meaning to each track in context. Appreciated how you tried to put the comedy element in logical light, stating that the serious music is for those who are the butt of the jokes and who don't find it funny, but the rest do! Makes perfect sense! I love some of your descriptions, like, bed of soft strings.very classy! Lastly, you very nicely put this in perspective in comparison to Slumdog in that even though it won't gather the same attention and perhaps level of accolades as Slumdog, it still deserves to be celebrated as a beautifully strong entrance for Rahman into hollywood. I can see your knowledge and ear for good music is quite refined and I really appreciate that. The only thing I didn't agree with you was the criticism on Sajna Re, but I respect that opinion a lot because you explained in detail why you felt that way. Geez, I wish more people would write reviews like you do And yes, you very correctly stated that it used the same musical template as Dreams on Fire, which is what I thought too when I heard it. For me, the core strength of this soundtrack is in artistic, aural, and aesthetic beauty, not commercial potential. It's one of the most beautifully crafted compositionally and sonically mostly acoustic album by Rahman and to me, that's all I need to celebrate, regardless of movie success. That is the greatest distinction between this and Slumdog, which was more of a commercial, highly energized, stylish, electronic soundtrack. Both Slumdog and Couple's Retreat showcase ARR's versatility amazingly and I hope people here in the West recognize that. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com mailto:arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com , sureshmechnit sureshmechnit@ wrote: http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2009/09/listening-couples-retreat.html
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Bravo! Great job, Suresh! Now, that's what I call a great review, doing full justice to this exquisite soundtrack. I esp. like that you talked about the sounds, instruments, arrangements a lot, which really do deserve specific menttion in each track. I liked how you tried to connect the music to the visuals, giving more meaning to each track in context. Appreciated how you tried to put the comedy element in logical light, stating that the serious music is for those who are the butt of the jokes and who don't find it funny, but the rest do! Makes perfect sense! I love some of your descriptions, like, bed of soft strings.very classy! Lastly, you very nicely put this in perspective in comparison to Slumdog in that even though it won't gather the same attention and perhaps level of accolades as Slumdog, it still deserves to be celebrated as a beautifully strong entrance for Rahman into hollywood. I can see your knowledge and ear for good music is quite refined and I really appreciate that. The only thing I didn't agree with you was the criticism on Sajna Re, but I respect that opinion a lot because you explained in detail why you felt that way. Geez, I wish more people would write reviews like you do And yes, you very correctly stated that it used the same musical template as Dreams on Fire, which is what I thought too when I heard it. For me, the core strength of this soundtrack is in artistic, aural, and aesthetic beauty, not commercial potential. It's one of the most beautifully crafted compositionally and sonically mostly acoustic album by Rahman and to me, that's all I need to celebrate, regardless of movie success. That is the greatest distinction between this and Slumdog, which was more of a commercial, highly energized, stylish, electronic soundtrack. Both Slumdog and Couple's Retreat showcase ARR's versatility amazingly and I hope people here in the West recognize that. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, sureshmechnit sureshmech...@... wrote: http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2009/09/listening-couples-retreat.html
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ichord - That was a great review on my review. Thank you so much. It feels great when people understand the review, in exactly way it was intended to be while writing. Smile Sureshkumar http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com '--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ichord purev...@... wrote: Bravo! Great job, Suresh! Now, that's what I call a great review, doing full justice to this exquisite soundtrack. I esp. like that you talked about the sounds, instruments, arrangements a lot, which really do deserve specific menttion in each track. I liked how you tried to connect the music to the visuals, giving more meaning to each track in context. Appreciated how you tried to put the comedy element in logical light, stating that the serious music is for those who are the butt of the jokes and who don't find it funny, but the rest do! Makes perfect sense! I love some of your descriptions, like, bed of soft strings.very classy! Lastly, you very nicely put this in perspective in comparison to Slumdog in that even though it won't gather the same attention and perhaps level of accolades as Slumdog, it still deserves to be celebrated as a beautifully strong entrance for Rahman into hollywood. I can see your knowledge and ear for good music is quite refined and I really appreciate that. The only thing I didn't agree with you was the criticism on Sajna Re, but I respect that opinion a lot because you explained in detail why you felt that way. Geez, I wish more people would write reviews like you do And yes, you very correctly stated that it used the same musical template as Dreams on Fire, which is what I thought too when I heard it. For me, the core strength of this soundtrack is in artistic, aural, and aesthetic beauty, not commercial potential. It's one of the most beautifully crafted compositionally and sonically mostly acoustic album by Rahman and to me, that's all I need to celebrate, regardless of movie success. That is the greatest distinction between this and Slumdog, which was more of a commercial, highly energized, stylish, electronic soundtrack. Both Slumdog and Couple's Retreat showcase ARR's versatility amazingly and I hope people here in the West recognize that. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, sureshmechnit sureshmechnit@ wrote: http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2009/09/listening-couples-retreat.html
