Re: [arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
few examples of other talents ar shantanu maoitra,sandeep chowta , shnakar mahadevan. they have also got that touch that ARR have and one more thingTHEY ARE NOT FROGS. Be a rahman fan but be in rahman style and not anu malik style. grow up. --- anushanand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself whether you are a music fan or just a Rahman fan - the answer to this question will go a long way in defining your perspective of film music, comparisons like these and how you adapt to the ever evolving world of music. We all are Rahman fans here, but to call all the other MDs frogs hopping in their own wells is being a bit insensitive. Sure, ARR is going places and he makes us all proud, but we should also learn to objectively evaluate the quality of songs. Britney spears is quite popular today, definitely much more popular than Mozart ever was, but there is simply no comparison between the two. Britney is probably a multi millionaire, but Mozart was buried in an unmarked grave 'cause he didn't have a cent when he died. How much of an effort has been taken to classify other MDs' songs into the genres you've mentioned below? Doing this may be a big eye opener. Of all the composers you've mentioned here, YSR needs to get a little bit more credit than what you've given him. He has come up with some amazing numbers recently, songs that indicate great maturity on his part. Just because he also uses electronic music doesn't make him 90% Rahman - somebody made a color movie first, doesn't mean that all the cinematographers these days are 'copying' that guy! It is just a concept. Do not get me wrong here, I love Rahman and I love 'music' more than I love any MD. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishna prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, U can never use the word competition with arr.All other MDs are frogs hopping in their own well.But Arr is one who goes places establishes his class in each and every arena he has entered (eg. hindi,english,tamil,chinese..). Can u tell me one MD who has composed exceptionally well, irrespective of the kind of film or has any MD been entrusted with subjects as varying as arr has faced, be it hiphop(Rangeela,Boys),classical(Sangamam,Lagaan), historical(LoBS,Bose,Iruvar),Musical( Lord of the rings,Bombay dreams,Warriors of heaven and earth),Mass(Padayapa,Tenali,Muthu...) Since he is busy with lots of projects at the same time he is unable to concentrate so much as he used to during his post Roja days.I can name some films to this effect like May madham,Mr. Romeo,Kadalan,Gentleman, Thiruda thiruda to name a few. Consider the other MDs whom u think are the ''SO CALLED competitors. Harris Jayaraj: He gets the same kind of films and he does his routine job of regurgitating Arr type musical arrangements(like in Alaipayuthe,May Madham) as he has understood very well that only that will keep him in the reckoning. Exception: May be Anniyan or to an extent Kakha Kakha YSR: He is 90% ARR n 10% IR. the same old story same themes same kind of music with ARR kind of orchestration all through. Exception: Kadhal Kondein reapeated same trend in 7g Vidyasagar: He is good in his own way but no way can near ARR. Bharadwaj: Takes hit hindi songs and recomposes in Tamil.No way In hindi though Ismail Darbar and Sandeep Chowta compose well sometimes r good only in bits and pieces and are too far away in terms of competition.But I feel Shankar Ehsan Loy has in them to make it big real time, though they themselves have admitted that they draw inspiration fron our musical genius.Have not faced different kind of films though. Long live ARR, bye Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that there are MD's who are capable of producing scores like Yuva, Meenaxi, Swades, Bose Boys ? Where is the competetion? I feel only other MD's should compete with ARR, not the other way.. and in that Harris Jeyaraj (in Tamil) is doing a good job (even though he repeats his own tunes now and then).. In Hindi, only SEL can be named after ARR. Sam. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, stylegamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so. Looking at the newer Bollywood dance songs of the millenium, i feel ARR needs to compete. I think it is the natural order of things.When someone like ARR invents a trend, It gets improved and may even get surpassed. It is like taking someone'a original idea which laid a foundation and improving upoun it till u get the credit for yrself. It musch works like business and commercial industry. Intel invents a Multi tasking CPU in the 90s and AMD just joins in the fray trying to surpass Intel. This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and
[arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
HI Krishna... Replying to this theory, Such instances are abundant in History. They have bought about great changes and each one of them underlined the very fact that Change is the only universal constant. For an example: Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was a great master and Vivekananda was his best desciple. Both had their own artistic methods of dealing with life and spiritualism. Ramakrishna remained in India itself propogating his profound knowledge and experience to his so called inner circle whereas Vivekananda broke the boundaries and went to the U.S. to deliver speeches on Hinduism, other religions, and the greatness of India as a whole. Vivekananda had a good deal of scientific knowledge and gave new ideas on how to use it for the good of India. One of his famous ideas is: To exchange the Indian Vedanta knowledge with the Scientific methods of the west and to develop on both the fronts. I think Ilayaraja and Rahman are somewhat similar when it comes to the art of music composition and of living life, but when it comes to the scientific part, they are worlds apart, just like the above-mentioned duo..! For instance we learn maths at school n college levels.A school teacher teaches us Maths.He is very good at teaching n everybody is amazed by his teaching abilities.One of his students finishes college n takes up teaching in a more easy n understanding manner to the surprise of his students whose standard gradually increases n everybody starts recognising their value. The new teacher gets offers from all over the world 2 to teach n he accepts them n amazes the with his new techniques by breaking old conventions. In spite of a barrage of offers the new teacher hasn't shifted base n continues 2 teach in his place n just goes for guest lectures abroad. So whom do u think is more potent the teacher (IR) or the student(ARR) who has dramatically changed the way the world views Tamil music or Indian music at large.I just gave this wierd example bcos u need view music with another perspective rather than itz glitz or in terms of hits n flops. And to reply to this oncoming segment... If you think passing off Star, Parasuram, 1 2 ka 4, and such albums as mere abberations, then whatever IR did that did not sell is also the same. If you derive the ratio, ARR might be better, but that is because IR had more numbers than did ARR. So naturally, it is bound to have more abberations. And for that matter ARR hasn't given 1 nasty stuff in any of his films unlike IR who yields 2 his diectors pressure cos he has become unsure of his future projects.A classic eg. may be Azhagi where there is a 3rd rate nasty song amidst good ones which could have been so easily avoided demeaning his strature of a so called genius.This is not so with ARR cos he sets his own terms while composing n doesnt yield 2 to the directors whims n fancies.In short only a responsible filmmaker will approach ARR.There may be abberations like Star,Parasuram but they only due to ARR's time constraints n busy schedules. If ARR leads even after the numbers become equal, it could be the case of learning from someone's mistakes Just My Views. No offence intended. Open to suggestions. Thanks for reading. Chandra. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hirskpn/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124561970/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
hi, Remember1 thing a good music fan issurely bound 2 be an ARR fan.Jus becos of the fact that arr is not high profile very down 2 earth doesn't mean thatIR or othersr better than him. Has IR composed in any other language other than tamiln has been successful?The ans is a bigNO.Itz no big deal to be in ur own placen churn out songz n be happy when others call u a genius jus becos u have composed a symphony njus bcos u hav given some classics.U need a balance in whatever u do.If u call IR a geniusjus becos he has composed a so called symphony then take ARR for whom it has become a routine 2 compose for broadway musicals n other projects like Chinese films n what not.ARR always looks for new avenues bcos he knows thatchurning out tamil or hindi blockbusters is not even 2% of what he possessess. For instance we learn maths at school n college levels.A school teacher teaches us Maths.He is very good at teaching n everybody is amazed by his teaching abilities.One of his students finishes collegen takes up teaching in a more easy n understanding manner to the surprise of his students whose standard gradually increasesn everybody starts recognising their value. Thenew teacher gets offers from all over the world 2 to teach n he accepts themn amazes the with his new techniques by breaking old conventions. In spite of a barrage of offers the new teacher hasn't shifted base n continues 2 teach in his place n just goes for guest lectures abroad. So whom do u think is more potentthe teacher (IR) or the student(ARR) who hasdramatically changed the way the world views Tamil music or Indian music at large.I justgave thiswierd example bcos u need view music with another perspective rather than itz glitz or in terms of hits n flops. And for that matter ARR hasn't given 1 nasty stuff in any of his films unlike IR who yields 2 his diectors pressure cos he has become unsure of his future projects.A classic eg. may be Azhagi where there is a 3rd rate nasty song amidst good ones which could have been so easily avoided demeaning his strature of a so called genius.This is not so with ARR cos he sets his own terms while composing n doesnt yield 2 to the directors whims n fancies.In short only a responsible filmmaker will approach ARR.There may be abberationslike Star,Parasuram but they only due to ARR's time constraints n busyschedules. I dont think IR or any other MD has that problem n should be churnig out classics all the time.If u cannot remain consistentwhile composing in 1 language dont in ur wildest dreams compare ARR withthe restof the band.Comparisons must arise only whenthey hav achievedatleasta portion ofwhat arr has done. ARR is a Padmashree n doesnt display it anywhere.IR is still 2 get one.He has received more than 20 filmfare awards which only 1 can dream of. Hoping for more light in this topic. bye, anushanand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself whether you are a music fan or just a Rahman fan - theanswer to this question will go a long way in defining yourperspective of film music, comparisons like these and how you adapt tothe ever evolving world of music. We all are Rahman fans here, but tocall all the other MDs frogs hopping in their own wells is being a bitinsensitive. Sure, ARR is going places and he makes us all proud, butwe should also learn to objectively evaluate the quality of songs. Britney spears is quite popular today, definitely much more popularthan Mozart ever was, but there is simply no comparison between thetwo. Britney is probably a multi millionaire, but Mozart was buriedin an unmarked grave 'cause he didn't have a cent when he died. Howmuch of an effort has been taken to classify other MDs' songs into thegenres you've mentioned below? Doing this may be a big eye opener. Of all the composers you've mentioned here, YSR needs to get a littlebit more credit than what you've given him. He has come up with someamazing numbers recently, songs that indicate great maturity on hispart. Just because he also uses electronic music doesn't make him 90%Rahman - somebody made a color movie first, doesn't mean that all thecinematographers these days are 'copying' that guy! It is just aconcept.Do not get me wrong here, I love Rahman and I love 'music' more than Ilove any MD.--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishna prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hi, U can never use the word competition with arr.All other MDs arefrogs hopping in their own well.But Arr is one who goes placesestablishes his class in each and every arena he has entered (eg.hindi,english,tamil,chinese..). Can u tell me one MD who has composed exceptionally well,irrespective of the kind of film or has any MD been entrusted withsubjects as varying as arr has faced, be ithiphop(Rangeela,Boys),classical(Sangamam,Lagaan), historical(LoBS,Bose,Iruvar),Musical( Lord of therings,Bombay dreams,Warriors of heaven andearth),Mass(Padayapa,Tenali,Muthu...) Since he is busy with lots of projects at the same
[arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
Few things are certain: 1. you haven't really assimilated what I have written in my post - may be you didn't even read it. 2. I can't convince you to enjoy good music, whoever the composer be 3. I definitely did not mention anything about IR in my message 4. You have no idea what it takes to compose for a 90 piece orchestra. 5. you are making unwarranted statements and comparisons, that is simply off the topic. 6. You have contradicted yourself in saying that 'U need a balance in whatever you do'. 7. You are stating that whoever composes in several languages is far superior to people that compose only in one language, when Rahman himself would agree that music is beyond languages. 8. Your comparison of MDs to math teachers couldn't be any more flawed. I just requested that people be a little bit more objective in evaluating songs so that they don't miss out on some nice gems that are given to us by various other MDs. I don't intend to start a war here. To bring in the 'award getting concept' is to mean that Sivaji Ganesan was not a good actor 'cause I don't remember him getting any national award for any of his 200+ movies!! You very well know what people think of his acting capabilities. Please fully understand that I am not at all attacking Rahman here...I have clearly mentioned that I am a big fan of his muic. I could shed more light on this topic, if you're willing to be a little bit more open about it. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishna prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, Remember 1 thing a good music fan is surely bound 2 be an ARR fan.Jus becos of the fact that arr is not high profile very down 2 earth doesn't mean that IR or others r better than him. Has IR composed in any other language other than tamil n has been successful? The ans is a big NO.Itz no big deal to be in ur own place n churn out songz n be happy when others call u a genius jus becos u have composed a symphony n jus bcos u hav given some classics.U need a balance in whatever u do.If u call IR a genius jus becos he has composed a so called symphony then take ARR for whom it has become a routine 2 compose for broadway musicals n other projects like Chinese films n what not.ARR always looks for new avenues bcos he knows that churning out tamil or hindi blockbusters is not even 2% of what he possessess. For instance we learn maths at school n college levels.A school teacher teaches us Maths.He is very good at teaching n everybody is amazed by his teaching abilities.One of his students finishes college n takes up teaching in a more easy n understanding manner to the surprise of his students whose standard gradually increases n everybody starts recognising their value. The new teacher gets offers from all over the world 2 to teach n he accepts them n amazes the with his new techniques by breaking old conventions. In spite of a barrage of offers the new teacher hasn't shifted base n continues 2 teach in his place n just goes for guest lectures abroad. So whom do u think is more potent the teacher (IR) or the student(ARR) who has dramatically changed the way the world views Tamil music or Indian music at large.I just gave this wierd example bcos u need view music with another perspective rather than itz glitz or in terms of hits n flops. And for that matter ARR hasn't given 1 nasty stuff in any of his films unlike IR who yields 2 his diectors pressure cos he has become unsure of his future projects.A classic eg. may be Azhagi where there is a 3rd rate nasty song amidst good ones which could have been so easily avoided demeaning his strature of a so called genius.This is not so with ARR cos he sets his own terms while composing n doesnt yield 2 to the directors whims n fancies.In short only a responsible filmmaker will approach ARR.There may be abberations like Star,Parasuram but they only due to ARR's time constraints n busy schedules. I dont think IR or any other MD has that problem n should be churnig out classics all the time.If u cannot remain consistent while composing in 1 language dont in ur wildest dreams compare ARR with the rest of the band.Comparisons must arise only when they hav achieved atleast a portion of what arr has done. ARR is a Padmashree n doesnt display it anywhere.IR is still 2 get one.He has received more than 20 filmfare awards which only 1 can dream of. Hoping for more light in this topic. bye, anushanand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself whether you are a music fan or just a Rahman fan - the answer to this question will go a long way in defining your perspective of film music, comparisons like these and how you adapt to the ever evolving world of music. We all are Rahman fans here, but to call all the other MDs frogs hopping in their own wells is being a bit insensitive. Sure, ARR is going places and he makes us all proud, but we should also learn to objectively evaluate the quality of songs. Britney spears is quite
[arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
Hi guys boy! this debate is really heating up... i dont think one can even dream of comparing ARR with other MDs of today Why? Let me explain one of the MILLION reasons Im a composer sound engineer myself. I have access to great software technology now that enables me to record songs with the same quality as ARR Mind you, i said RECORD with same quality not COMPOSE... And this is possible because of the latest technology The same technology that all these MDs you are talkin about are using (except IR... his recordings were all live anyway, so cant compare recording qualities...wud b unfair!) So Obviously.. anyone these days, RECORDING-wise will be up to ARR standards But COMPOSING-wise. Now think about this... ROJA, THIRUDA THIRUDA, GENTLEMAN, KADHALAN etc. were composed recorded in the highest possible quality before 1994 DAMN! we did not even have Windows 95 then! Computers were difficult to use, synthesizers rhythm boxes were in vogue but they too needed a lot of effort patience in learning So it is to ARR's credit that he not only mastered these technologies then but also COMPOSED so brilliantly with them to give us such gems! MD's today have it easy... yet they cant match the sheer quality of MUSIC COMPOSITIONS of ARR so decide for yourself Peace be with ya... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishna prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, Remember 1 thing a good music fan is surely bound 2 be an ARR fan.Jus becos of the fact that arr is not high profile very down 2 earth doesn't mean that IR or others r better than him. Has IR composed in any other language other than tamil n has been successful? The ans is a big NO.Itz no big deal to be in ur own place n churn out songz n be happy when others call u a genius jus becos u have composed a symphony n jus bcos u hav given some classics.U need a balance in whatever u do.If u call IR a genius jus becos he has composed a so called symphony then take ARR for whom it has become a routine 2 compose for broadway musicals n other projects like Chinese films n what not.ARR always looks for new avenues bcos he knows that churning out tamil or hindi blockbusters is not even 2% of what he possessess. For instance we learn maths at school n college levels.A school teacher teaches us Maths.He is very good at teaching n everybody is amazed by his teaching abilities.One of his students finishes college n takes up teaching in a more easy n understanding manner to the surprise of his students whose standard gradually increases n everybody starts recognising their value. The new teacher gets offers from all over the world 2 to teach n he accepts them n amazes the with his new techniques by breaking old conventions. In spite of a barrage of offers the new teacher hasn't shifted base n continues 2 teach in his place n just goes for guest lectures abroad. So whom do u think is more potent the teacher (IR) or the student (ARR) who has dramatically changed the way the world views Tamil music or Indian music at large.I just gave this wierd example bcos u need view music with another perspective rather than itz glitz or in terms of hits n flops. And for that matter ARR hasn't given 1 nasty stuff in any of his films unlike IR who yields 2 his diectors pressure cos he has become unsure of his future projects.A classic eg. may be Azhagi where there is a 3rd rate nasty song amidst good ones which could have been so easily avoided demeaning his strature of a so called genius.This is not so with ARR cos he sets his own terms while composing n doesnt yield 2 to the directors whims n fancies.In short only a responsible filmmaker will approach ARR.There may be abberations like Star,Parasuram but they only due to ARR's time constraints n busy schedules. I dont think IR or any other MD has that problem n should be churnig out classics all the time.If u cannot remain consistent while composing in 1 language dont in ur wildest dreams compare ARR with the rest of the band.Comparisons must arise only when they hav achieved atleast a portion of what arr has done. ARR is a Padmashree n doesnt display it anywhere.IR is still 2 get one.He has received more than 20 filmfare awards which only 1 can dream of. Hoping for more light in this topic. bye, anushanand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself whether you are a music fan or just a Rahman fan - the answer to this question will go a long way in defining your perspective of film music, comparisons like these and how you adapt to the ever evolving world of music. We all are Rahman fans here, but to call all the other MDs frogs hopping in their own wells is being a bit insensitive. Sure, ARR is going places and he makes us all proud, but we should also learn to objectively evaluate the quality of songs. Britney spears is quite popular today, definitely much more popular than Mozart ever was, but there is
[arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
Are you saying that there are MD's who are capable of producing scores like Yuva, Meenaxi, Swades, Bose Boys ? Where is the competetion? I feel only other MD's should compete with ARR, not the other way.. and in that Harris Jeyaraj (in Tamil) is doing a good job (even though he repeats his own tunes now and then).. In Hindi, only SEL can be named after ARR. Sam. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, stylegamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so. Looking at the newer Bollywood dance songs of the millenium, i feel ARR needs to compete. I think it is the natural order of things.When someone like ARR invents a trend, It gets improved and may even get surpassed. It is like taking someone'a original idea which laid a foundation and improving upoun it till u get the credit for yrself. It musch works like business and commercial industry. Intel invents a Multi tasking CPU in the 90s and AMD just joins in the fray trying to surpass Intel. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hpgrlcr/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124370922/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
hi, U can never use the word competition with arr.All other MDs are frogs hopping in their own well.But Arr is one who goes places establishes his class in each and every arena he has entered (eg. hindi,english,tamil,chinese..). Can u tell me one MD who has composed exceptionally well, irrespective of the kind of film or has any MD been entrusted with subjects as varying as arr has faced, be it hiphop(Rangeela,Boys),classical(Sangamam,Lagaan), historical(LoBS,Bose,Iruvar),Musical(Lord of the rings,Bombay dreams,Warriors of heaven and earth),Mass(Padayapa,Tenali,Muthu...) Since he is busy with lots of projects at the same time he is unable to concentrate so much as he used to during his post Roja days.I can name some films to this effect like May madham,Mr.Romeo,Kadalan,Gentleman, Thiruda thiruda to name a few. Consider the other MDs whom u think are the ''SO CALLED" competitors. Harris Jayaraj: He gets the same kind of films and he does his routine job of regurgitating Arr type musical arrangements(like in Alaipayuthe,May Madham) as he has understood very well that only that will keep him in thereckoning. Exception: May be Anniyan or to an extent Kakha Kakha YSR: He is 90% ARR n 10% IR. the same old story same themes same kind of music with ARR kind of orchestration all through. Exception: Kadhal Kondein reapeated same trend in 7g Vidyasagar: He is good in his own way but no way can near ARR. Bharadwaj: Takes hit hindi songs and recomposes in Tamil.No way In hindi though Ismail Darbar and Sandeep Chowta compose well sometimes r good only in bits and pieces and are too far away in terms of competition.But I feelShankar Ehsan Loy has in them to make it bigreal time, though they themselves have admitted that they draw inspiration fron our musical genius.Have not faced different kind of films though. Long live ARR, bye Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that there are MD's who are capable of producing scores like Yuva, Meenaxi, Swades, Bose Boys ? Where is the competetion? I feel only other MD's should compete with ARR, not the other way.. and in that Harris Jeyaraj (in Tamil) is doing a good job (even though he repeats his own tunes now and then).. In Hindi, only SEL can be named after ARR.Sam.--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "stylegamer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so. Looking at the newer Bollywood dance songs of the millenium, i feel ARR needs to compete. I think it is the natural order of things.When someone like ARR invents a trend, It gets improved and may even get surpassed. It is like taking someone'a original idea which laid a foundation and improving upoun it till u get the credit for yrself. It musch works like business and commercial industry. Intel invents a Multi tasking CPU in the 90s and AMD just joins in the fray trying to surpass Intel. Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Music artists New music artists New country music artists Country music artists Christian music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
i dont think people have surpassed arr, they might be having luck these days, but i think arr has a completely diff genre compared to other music directors. so i think it is uncomparable. he makes music to please his soul and the soul of his true fans, others make music to please the audience. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, stylegamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so. Looking at the newer Bollywood dance songs of the millenium, i feel ARR needs to compete. I think it is the natural order of things.When someone like ARR invents a trend, It gets improved and may even get surpassed. It is like taking someone'a original idea which laid a foundation and improving upoun it till u get the credit for yrself. It musch works like business and commercial industry. Intel invents a Multi tasking CPU in the 90s and AMD just joins in the fray trying to surpass Intel. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12httea6p/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124416999/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
Hi, I would have been more happy to see IR name in that MD's list. Frankly speaking, I am a gr8 fan of IR and ARR.If you ask me, whom would you prefer. I might tend to prefer IR because IR songs r melodious.Many Tamil directors have dependent on IR for almost 2 decades not for few prestigious projects.IR is the first asian MD to conduct symphony. His achievement speaks and cannotbe denied. I think my views may not well be aprreciated in this club.krishna prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, U can never use the word competition with arr.All other MDs are frogs hopping in their own well.But Arr is one who goes places establishes his class in each and every arena he has entered (eg. hindi,english,tamil,chinese..). Can u tell me one MD who has composed exceptionally well, irrespective of the kind of film or has any MD been entrusted with subjects as varying as arr has faced, be it hiphop(Rangeela,Boys),classical(Sangamam,Lagaan), historical(LoBS,Bose,Iruvar),Musical(Lord of the rings,Bombay dreams,Warriors of heaven and earth),Mass(Padayapa,Tenali,Muthu...) Since he is busy with lots of projects at the same time he is unable to concentrate so much as he used to during his post Roja days.I can name some films to this effect like May madham,Mr.Romeo,Kadalan,Gentleman, Thiruda thiruda to name a few. Consider the other MDs whom u think are the ''SO CALLED" competitors. Harris Jayaraj: He gets the same kind of films and he does his routine job of regurgitating Arr type musical arrangements(like in Alaipayuthe,May Madham) as he has understood very well that only that will keep him in thereckoning. Exception: May be Anniyan or to an extent Kakha Kakha YSR: He is 90% ARR n 10% IR. the same old story same themes same kind of music with ARR kind of orchestration all through. Exception: Kadhal Kondein reapeated same trend in 7g Vidyasagar: He is good in his own way but no way can near ARR. Bharadwaj: Takes hit hindi songs and recomposes in Tamil.No way In hindi though Ismail Darbar and Sandeep Chowta compose well sometimes r good only in bits and pieces and are too far away in terms of competition.But I feelShankar Ehsan Loy has in them to make it bigreal time, though they themselves have admitted that they draw inspiration fron our musical genius.Have not faced different kind of films though. Long live ARR, bye Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that there are MD's who are capable of producing scores like Yuva, Meenaxi, Swades, Bose Boys ? Where is the competetion? I feel only other MD's should compete with ARR, not the other way.. and in that Harris Jeyaraj (in Tamil) is doing a good job (even though he repeats his own tunes now and then).. In Hindi, only SEL can be named after ARR.Sam.--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "stylegamer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so. Looking at the newer Bollywood dance songs of the millenium, i feel ARR needs to compete. I think it is the natural order of things.When someone like ARR invents a trend, It gets improved and may even get surpassed. It is like taking someone'a original idea which laid a foundation and improving upoun it till u get the credit for yrself. It musch works like business and commercial industry. Intel invents a Multi tasking CPU in the 90s and AMD just joins in the fray trying to surpass Intel. Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html SPONSORED LINKS Music artists New music artists New country music artists Country music artists Christian music artists Unsigned music artist Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] Re: Do u feel other MDs have surpassed ARR?
Ask yourself whether you are a music fan or just a Rahman fan - the answer to this question will go a long way in defining your perspective of film music, comparisons like these and how you adapt to the ever evolving world of music. We all are Rahman fans here, but to call all the other MDs frogs hopping in their own wells is being a bit insensitive. Sure, ARR is going places and he makes us all proud, but we should also learn to objectively evaluate the quality of songs. Britney spears is quite popular today, definitely much more popular than Mozart ever was, but there is simply no comparison between the two. Britney is probably a multi millionaire, but Mozart was buried in an unmarked grave 'cause he didn't have a cent when he died. How much of an effort has been taken to classify other MDs' songs into the genres you've mentioned below? Doing this may be a big eye opener. Of all the composers you've mentioned here, YSR needs to get a little bit more credit than what you've given him. He has come up with some amazing numbers recently, songs that indicate great maturity on his part. Just because he also uses electronic music doesn't make him 90% Rahman - somebody made a color movie first, doesn't mean that all the cinematographers these days are 'copying' that guy! It is just a concept. Do not get me wrong here, I love Rahman and I love 'music' more than I love any MD. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishna prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, U can never use the word competition with arr.All other MDs are frogs hopping in their own well.But Arr is one who goes places establishes his class in each and every arena he has entered (eg. hindi,english,tamil,chinese..). Can u tell me one MD who has composed exceptionally well, irrespective of the kind of film or has any MD been entrusted with subjects as varying as arr has faced, be it hiphop(Rangeela,Boys),classical(Sangamam,Lagaan), historical(LoBS,Bose,Iruvar),Musical( Lord of the rings,Bombay dreams,Warriors of heaven and earth),Mass(Padayapa,Tenali,Muthu...) Since he is busy with lots of projects at the same time he is unable to concentrate so much as he used to during his post Roja days.I can name some films to this effect like May madham,Mr. Romeo,Kadalan,Gentleman, Thiruda thiruda to name a few. Consider the other MDs whom u think are the ''SO CALLED competitors. Harris Jayaraj: He gets the same kind of films and he does his routine job of regurgitating Arr type musical arrangements(like in Alaipayuthe,May Madham) as he has understood very well that only that will keep him in the reckoning. Exception: May be Anniyan or to an extent Kakha Kakha YSR: He is 90% ARR n 10% IR. the same old story same themes same kind of music with ARR kind of orchestration all through. Exception: Kadhal Kondein reapeated same trend in 7g Vidyasagar: He is good in his own way but no way can near ARR. Bharadwaj: Takes hit hindi songs and recomposes in Tamil.No way In hindi though Ismail Darbar and Sandeep Chowta compose well sometimes r good only in bits and pieces and are too far away in terms of competition.But I feel Shankar Ehsan Loy has in them to make it big real time, though they themselves have admitted that they draw inspiration fron our musical genius.Have not faced different kind of films though. Long live ARR, bye Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that there are MD's who are capable of producing scores like Yuva, Meenaxi, Swades, Bose Boys ? Where is the competetion? I feel only other MD's should compete with ARR, not the other way.. and in that Harris Jeyaraj (in Tamil) is doing a good job (even though he repeats his own tunes now and then).. In Hindi, only SEL can be named after ARR. Sam. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, stylegamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so. Looking at the newer Bollywood dance songs of the millenium, i feel ARR needs to compete. I think it is the natural order of things.When someone like ARR invents a trend, It gets improved and may even get surpassed. It is like taking someone'a original idea which laid a foundation and improving upoun it till u get the credit for yrself. It musch works like business and commercial industry. Intel invents a Multi tasking CPU in the 90s and AMD just joins in the fray trying to surpass Intel. This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
