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A.R.RAHMAN is working in tamil telugu international projects.thats why he is not giving fine tunes.and anthor thing is failure of bose ,bagathsingh,sathiya,kangalalakaithu etc.for these fims he composed beautiful tunes. --- On Fri, 24/10/08, : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 2:50 AM Ya, I also noticed in recent years Rahman's music is becoming little louder and less filtered. I've been observing this trend Post 'R.D.B' albums. One thing I'm sure that, presently Rahman is giving less importance to the fine tuning of his songs. It's becoz lack of time and no gain in putting such effort in current music trend. Yuvraj is a great album with everything, great melodies, lyrics, rahmanish singing styles, symponies etc. But what I'm missing is those ARR's trademark fine nuances, strong bass lines and improvisations in orchestrations. Afterall I'm a hardcore Rahmaniac just becoz of his Bombay, Kadalan, Tiruda Tiruda (and most of the albums in those period) :) Another thing I noticed in recent albums is, his songs are becoming more performer freindly. I mean most of JTJYN and some songs of Ada, JA and Yuvvraj can be performed in current Talent shows without missing notes :) And orchestrations are simple to perform on stages... Also, before people will think thrice(!) before using Fanah, Mukabala, O humdum soniyore on dance floors becoz of high quality and seriousness in the songs. But now Pappu Can't dance , Taxi Taxi and shano shano are everywhere becoz easiness of beats and whacky lyrics :) . So I can say I'm happy in bothways... :) --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ ... wrote: I really doubt if its the issue with the music companies. This started with ARR's Bose i think. The chorus part just goes haywire. If you check recent soundtracks like Omkara, Singh is King, Parineeta etci find them to be of very good quality. Something that ARR needs to know? On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Krish Bro, I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating. My fav song In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)...when the chorus hits the peak, its a torture to hear wid high volume.. I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime wen the chorus part comes.. ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians... I think its the fault of music companies :( :( Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!! ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!! ~Love Music Love Life Neetika Raina - Original Message - From: Sreekrishnan R rahmanfever@ ...rahmanfever% 40yahoo.co. uk To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? No.. I'm also here.. All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the Sound Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing any distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs in Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. Shridhar Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the entire Mixing and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit the Peak level. I think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's point of view. Because AR's each and every song is like a reference book for a Sound Engineer.. I learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing his old and latest mixes. I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs. I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart from these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small things. But professionally we've to admit this. Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels of his songs. :-) Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue --- On Wed, 22/10/08, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..triscodeca%40yahoo. com wrote: From: Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. triscodeca%40yahoo. com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:05 AM Why is it that every time
Re: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs
This is regrading recording quality friends, we have a valid point here. Hope Gopa/Vijay iyer can pass this information to ARR Sir. --- On Sat, 25/10/08, rama krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: rama krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 25 October, 2008, 4:57 PM A.R.RAHMAN is working in tamil telugu international projects.thats why he is not giving fine tunes.and anthor thing is failure of bose ,bagathsingh, sathiya,kangalal akaithu etc.for these fims he composed beautiful tunes. --- On Fri, 24/10/08, : Avinash : avinashdc21@ yahoo.com wrote: From: : Avinash : avinashdc21@ yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 2:50 AM Ya, I also noticed in recent years Rahman's music is becoming little louder and less filtered. I've been observing this trend Post 'R.D.B' albums. One thing I'm sure that, presently Rahman is giving less importance to the fine tuning of his songs. It's becoz lack of time and no gain in putting such effort in current music trend. Yuvraj is a great album with everything, great melodies, lyrics, rahmanish singing styles, symponies etc. But what I'm missing is those ARR's trademark fine nuances, strong bass lines and improvisations in orchestrations. Afterall I'm a hardcore Rahmaniac just becoz of his Bombay, Kadalan, Tiruda Tiruda (and most of the albums in those period) :) Another thing I noticed in recent albums is, his songs are becoming more performer freindly. I mean most of JTJYN and some songs of Ada, JA and Yuvvraj can be performed in current Talent shows without missing notes :) And orchestrations are simple to perform on stages... Also, before people will think thrice(!) before using Fanah, Mukabala, O humdum soniyore on dance floors becoz of high quality and seriousness in the songs. But now Pappu Can't dance , Taxi Taxi and shano shano are everywhere becoz easiness of beats and whacky lyrics :) . So I can say I'm happy in bothways... :) --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ ... wrote: I really doubt if its the issue with the music companies. This started with ARR's Bose i think. The chorus part just goes haywire. If you check recent soundtracks like Omkara, Singh is King, Parineeta etci find them to be of very good quality. Something that ARR needs to know? On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Krish Bro, I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating. My fav song In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)...when the chorus hits the peak, its a torture to hear wid high volume.. I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime wen the chorus part comes.. ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians... I think its the fault of music companies :( :( Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!! ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!! ~Love Music Love Life Neetika Raina - Original Message - From: Sreekrishnan R rahmanfever@ ...rahmanfever% 40yahoo.co. uk To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? No.. I'm also here.. All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the Sound Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing any distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs in Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. Shridhar Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the entire Mixing and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit the Peak level. I think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's point of view. Because AR's each and every song is like a reference book for a Sound Engineer.. I learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing his old and latest mixes. I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs. I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart from these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small things. But professionally we've to admit this. Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels of his songs. :-) Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My
[arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs
Ya, I also noticed in recent years Rahman's music is becoming little louder and less filtered. I've been observing this trend Post 'R.D.B' albums. One thing I'm sure that, presently Rahman is giving less importance to the fine tuning of his songs. It's becoz lack of time and no gain in putting such effort in current music trend. Yuvraj is a great album with everything, great melodies, lyrics, rahmanish singing styles, symponies etc. But what I'm missing is those ARR's trademark fine nuances, strong bass lines and improvisations in orchestrations. Afterall I'm a hardcore Rahmaniac just becoz of his Bombay, Kadalan, Tiruda Tiruda (and most of the albums in those period) :) Another thing I noticed in recent albums is, his songs are becoming more performer freindly. I mean most of JTJYN and some songs of Ada, JA and Yuvvraj can be performed in current Talent shows without missing notes :) And orchestrations are simple to perform on stages... Also, before people will think thrice(!) before using Fanah, Mukabala, O humdum soniyore on dance floors becoz of high quality and seriousness in the songs. But now Pappu Can't dance , Taxi Taxi and shano shano are everywhere becoz easiness of beats and whacky lyrics :) . So I can say I'm happy in bothways... :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really doubt if its the issue with the music companies. This started with ARR's Bose i think. The chorus part just goes haywire. If you check recent soundtracks like Omkara, Singh is King, Parineeta etci find them to be of very good quality. Something that ARR needs to know? On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Krish Bro, I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating. My fav song In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)...when the chorus hits the peak, its a torture to hear wid high volume.. I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime wen the chorus part comes.. ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians... I think its the fault of music companies :( :( Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!! ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!! ~Love Music Love Life Neetika Raina - Original Message - From: Sreekrishnan R [EMAIL PROTECTED]rahmanfever%40yahoo.co.uk To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? No.. I'm also here.. All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the Sound Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing any distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs in Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. Shridhar Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the entire Mixing and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit the Peak level. I think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's point of view. Because AR's each and every song is like a reference book for a Sound Engineer.. I learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing his old and latest mixes. I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs. I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart from these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small things. But professionally we've to admit this. Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels of his songs. :-) Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue --- On Wed, 22/10/08, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED]triscodeca%40yahoo.com wrote: From: Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] triscodeca%40yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:05 AM Why is it that every time there's a less-than-favorable review of an ARR album there are a number of fans waiting to attack the reviewer? Tootsie pop? Arrogant man? Do you really need all the name calling? A review, aside from attempting some sort of analysis or critique, is just one person's opinion of how he or she reacts to something. Obviously we all react differently or else this would be a boring place. Reading Joginder Tuteja's review it looks like he is less than impressed because he finds
Re: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs
Krish Bro, I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating. My fav song In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)...when the chorus hits the peak, its a torture to hear wid high volume.. I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime wen the chorus part comes.. ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians... I think its the fault of music companies :( :( Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!! ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!! ~Love Music Love Life Neetika Raina - Original Message - From: Sreekrishnan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? No.. I'm also here.. All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the Sound Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing any distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs in Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. Shridhar Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the entire Mixing and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit the Peak level. I think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's point of view. Because AR's each and every song is like a reference book for a Sound Engineer.. I learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing his old and latest mixes. I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs. I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart from these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small things. But professionally we've to admit this. Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels of his songs. :-) Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue --- On Wed, 22/10/08, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:05 AM Why is it that every time there's a less-than-favorable review of an ARR album there are a number of fans waiting to attack the reviewer? Tootsie pop? Arrogant man? Do you really need all the name calling? A review, aside from attempting some sort of analysis or critique, is just one person's opinion of how he or she reacts to something. Obviously we all react differently or else this would be a boring place. Reading Joginder Tuteja's review it looks like he is less than impressed because he finds some of the tracks very situational and he was expecting something bigger. That's his reaction and that's perfectly fine. You can choose to disagree with his viewpoint and have your own. That's fine too. On the other hand every Tom, Dick and Harry who mentions something about the album in a blog gets posted here. A lot of these posts sound like the gushings of a fanboy with hardly any critique or analysis. Why is it that such posts are treated as great reviews even if they lack a cogent argument or any substance at all? Gopal Vithur, Could you folks excercise some restraint when you post blog articles especially about album reviews? By all means do post something if you think that it attempts some form of critique. But please spare us the ramblings. Or perhaps, just post a link to the blog and let folks who're interested check it out if they're interested. Back to Yuuvraaj... There are a number of things that bother me about Yuuvraaj (and other recent ARR works) but for now... am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? Here's what I see when I load the clips in Audacity- http://i36.tinypic. com/2eksooz. jpg Check the Youtube post on Loudness War for the context. RR - Original Message From: Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:22:40 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj Tootsie Pop only rates albums based on how mnay chartbuster hits (his distorted definition of one) it has. This has ZERO credibility for me. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Vinod Raju [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The review seems to have been taken off the site. The link says No review. -Vinod --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ali ahad mindblower2003@ wrote: he do like
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I really doubt if its the issue with the music companies. This started with ARR's Bose i think. The chorus part just goes haywire. If you check recent soundtracks like Omkara, Singh is King, Parineeta etci find them to be of very good quality. Something that ARR needs to know? On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Krish Bro, I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating. My fav song In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)...when the chorus hits the peak, its a torture to hear wid high volume.. I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime wen the chorus part comes.. ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians... I think its the fault of music companies :( :( Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!! ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!! ~Love Music Love Life Neetika Raina - Original Message - From: Sreekrishnan R [EMAIL PROTECTED]rahmanfever%40yahoo.co.uk To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? No.. I'm also here.. All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the Sound Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing any distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs in Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. Shridhar Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the entire Mixing and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit the Peak level. I think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's point of view. Because AR's each and every song is like a reference book for a Sound Engineer.. I learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing his old and latest mixes. I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs. I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart from these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small things. But professionally we've to admit this. Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels of his songs. :-) Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue --- On Wed, 22/10/08, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED]triscodeca%40yahoo.com wrote: From: Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] triscodeca%40yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:05 AM Why is it that every time there's a less-than-favorable review of an ARR album there are a number of fans waiting to attack the reviewer? Tootsie pop? Arrogant man? Do you really need all the name calling? A review, aside from attempting some sort of analysis or critique, is just one person's opinion of how he or she reacts to something. Obviously we all react differently or else this would be a boring place. Reading Joginder Tuteja's review it looks like he is less than impressed because he finds some of the tracks very situational and he was expecting something bigger. That's his reaction and that's perfectly fine. You can choose to disagree with his viewpoint and have your own. That's fine too. On the other hand every Tom, Dick and Harry who mentions something about the album in a blog gets posted here. A lot of these posts sound like the gushings of a fanboy with hardly any critique or analysis. Why is it that such posts are treated as great reviews even if they lack a cogent argument or any substance at all? Gopal Vithur, Could you folks excercise some restraint when you post blog articles especially about album reviews? By all means do post something if you think that it attempts some form of critique. But please spare us the ramblings. Or perhaps, just post a link to the blog and let folks who're interested check it out if they're interested. Back to Yuuvraaj... There are a number of things that bother me about Yuuvraaj (and other recent ARR works) but for now... am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? Here's what I see when I load the clips in Audacity- http://i36.tinypic. com/2eksooz. jpg Check the Youtube post on Loudness War for the context. RR - Original Message From: Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:22:40 AM Subject: [arr] Re:
Re: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs
Thanks for the technical info Krish bro... May be this is the duty of the Sound Mixing stage,, and they need to take care of this, or it has been done purposefully.. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Sreekrishnan R [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Friends.. I'm not that great in the Sound Engineering and I've just started my career. Here I'm trying to explain what disappointed me when I heard 'In Lamhon ke'.. I know that there are many Sound Engineers and Audiophiles in Our Group.. Please forgive me, if there are mistakes considering the fact that I'm totally a newbie.. :-) Please find the attached file.. It is the screen shot of the Waves of the Song being played in Nuendo. This is the original 'In Lamhon ke' track from the Audio CD. At 01:31 the chorus part starts and note the wave signals hitting the peak level. You can see the signals are 'Flattened' after hitting the peak. That should not happen for a perfect mixed song and a signal should not touch the peak level even if it's a song with some heavy orchestration or a heavy chorus part. That's what I learned. Not only 'In Lamhon ke' but after 6:27 'Dil ka Rishta' is a pain for ears.. :-( I've attached it's screen shot also.. The song is simply awesome.. Just no words ! but what to do... :-( I'm very much sure that the Audio Companies had increased the overall Volume of the Albums. Anyway this trend spoils some songs with heavy instrumentation like In Lamhon ka, Dil Ka Rishta etc (and our ears too !). For some songs we are not feeling the distortion caused by the waves hitting the peak levels 'cuz we are used to it. As Neetika Sis. said... ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling ! Music companies should take care of this in future.. Hope Gopal and Vijay Bros. would tell about this issue to the concerned people.. :-) Let's hope for the Best ! Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue --- On *Thu, 23/10/08, Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:33 PM Krish Bro, I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating. My fav song In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)...when the chorus hits the peak, its a torture to hear wid high volume.. I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime wen the chorus part comes.. ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians... I think its the fault of music companies :( :( Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!! ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!! ~Love Music Love Life Neetika Raina - Original Message - From: Sreekrishnan R rahmanfever@ yahoo.co. ukrahmanfever%40yahoo.co.uk To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? No.. I'm also here.. All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the Sound Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing any distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs in Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. Shridhar Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the entire Mixing and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit the Peak level. I think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's point of view. Because AR's each and every song is like a reference book for a Sound Engineer.. I learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing his old and latest mixes. I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs. I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart from these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small things. But professionally we've to admit this. Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels of his songs. :-) Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue --- On Wed, 22/10/08, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] comtriscodeca%40yahoo.com wrote: From: Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] com triscodeca%40yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:05 AM Why is it that every time there's a less-than-favorable review of an ARR album
Re: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs
after 6:27 'Dil ka Rishta' is a pain for ears.. :-( I am with you on this.. In fact, I had edited this one out in my mp3, Wish I could do that in the audio CD as well.. Sam.. --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Sreekrishnan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sreekrishnan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 8:16 AM Friends.. I'm not that great in the Sound Engineering and I've just started my career. Here I'm trying to explain what disappointed me when I heard 'In Lamhon ke'.. I know that there are many Sound Engineers and Audiophiles in Our Group.. Please forgive me, if there are mistakes considering the fact that I'm totally a newbie.. :-) Please find the attached file.. It is the screen shot of the Waves of the Song being played in Nuendo. This is the original 'In Lamhon ke' track from the Audio CD. At 01:31 the chorus part starts and note the wave signals hitting the peak level. You can see the signals are ‘Flattened’ after hitting the peak. That should not happen for a perfect mixed song and a signal should not touch the peak level even if it’s a song with some heavy orchestration or a heavy chorus part. That's what I learned. Not only 'In Lamhon ke' but after 6:27 'Dil ka Rishta' is a pain for ears.. :-( I've attached it's screen shot also.. The song is simply awesome.. Just no words ! but what to do... :-( I'm very much sure that the Audio Companies had increased the overall Volume of the Albums. Anyway this trend spoils some songs with heavy instrumentation like In Lamhon ka, Dil Ka Rishta etc (and our ears too !). For some songs we are not feeling the distortion caused by the waves hitting the peak levels 'cuz we are used to it. As Neetika Sis. said... ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling ! Music companies should take care of this in future.. Hope Gopal and Vijay Bros. would tell about this issue to the concerned people.. :-) Let's hope for the Best ! Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue --- On Thu, 23/10/08, Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Loudness issue in ARR songs To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 3:33 PM Krish Bro, I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating. My fav song In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)...when the chorus hits the peak, its a torture to hear wid high volume.. I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime wen the chorus part comes.. ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians... I think its the fault of music companies :( :( Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!! ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!! ~Love Music Love Life Neetika Raina - Original Message - From: Sreekrishnan R rahmanfever@ yahoo.co. uk To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? No.. I'm also here.. All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the Sound Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing any distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs in Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. Shridhar Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the entire Mixing and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit the Peak level. I think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's point of view. Because AR's each and every song is like a reference book for a Sound Engineer.. I learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing his old and latest mixes. I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs. I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart from these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small things. But professionally we've to admit this. Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels of his songs. :-) Thanks. -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue --- On Wed, 22/10/08, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:05 AM Why is it that every time there's a less-than-favorable review of an ARR album
