Re: [arr] Re: Rahman has nullified one major criticism

2008-11-20 Thread Reformed Sinner
agree with u. almost every md in every indian language sounds like ARR of
90s now. so the real ARR is forced to come up with something different

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   hey... in 90s ARR was only person producing that sound. now almost
 everyone is following ARRs step and try to produce ARR quality sound.. so, u
 might feel like that.. just give it a thought.


 On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Jahanzeb Farooq [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
 of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and digest,
 yet not compromising his signture or brilliance.

 well i would disagree. his recent music clearly shows he has
 compromised his signature style and brilliance of his 90s music. e.g.
 the result is Tu meri dost hai and Guzarsih, while both songs are very
 mass appealing and instant hits, they clearly lack the distinct ARR
 feeling/sound his music used to have in old days. i remember someone
 commenting on Guzarish that it looks like some anu malik song and not
 an ARR song. though i will completely disagree with the anu malik
 thing but i agree that day by day ARR's music is becoming more and
 more similar to other ordinary bollywood music. this is a HUGE
 compromise at least for me.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My parents, who are music lovers and very knowledgeable about
  classical music, have always admired Rahman's music. However, there
  was always a BUT whenever they would talk about Rahman, or if I
 was
  praising Rahman's music in front of them. That BUT was followed
 by,
  Rahman is a genius, has different music, but he's more into rhythm
  and his songs are very difficult to sing. Even on music
 reality
  shows like SaReGaMaPa, previously, when someone would sing a Rahman
  song, at least one of the judges would say, Yeh Gaana Bohut Mushkil
  hai, or This song is very difficult.
 
  Granted, my parents and others from that generation have not heard
  Rahman's music in total or to the extent that we have, so they are
 not
  as aware of many of the timeless melodies in both Hindi and Tamil by
 him.
 
  Since, Guru, however, and esp this year, however, I have noticed a
 big
  change in not only my parents' attitudes towards Rahman, but from
  others' from that generation, who revere the timeless mmelodies from
  their time. Whenever I bring up Rahman now, they are all praise and
  have no more BUT or HOWEVER in their descriptions. They are
  listening to his CDs more and even revisiting old classics from
  Rahman, which they previously would label as too rhythmic or too
  difficult to sing. Maybe they are getting used to his style, but I
  have a feeling they are recognizing a shift in emphasis as described
  below.
 
  I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
  of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and
 digest,
  yet not compromising his signture or brilliance. There may be
 changes
  in his arrangements, sound, etc., but I really do think that
 Rahman's
  sense of melodic composition has been more emphasized with better
  contours and form. Since Roja, Rahman has always been a melody
 king,
  but I feel that he is letting the melody and the singer take on a
 more
  important role in his compositions than sound, some arrangements,
 and
  rhythm. For the elders, it's a welcome change. For some of us
  youngsters, and Rahman fans, it's not as welcomed.
 
  As far as I'm concerned, Rahman is THE only torch bearer from the
  evergreen era of bollywood music which had timeless melodies that
 are
  enjoyed even today. Just goes to show how Rahman's music is
  appreciated by all regions and all ages.
 


  



Re: [arr] Re: Rahman has nullified one major criticism

2008-11-17 Thread senthil kannan
well said jahanzeb i too agree with you am really disappointed with arr's 
recent works. Except a few most of his works doesn seem to be of arr kind of 
music its just like wat other musicians do :-(

1/16/08, Jahanzeb Farooq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Jahanzeb Farooq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [arr] Re: Rahman has nullified one major criticism
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 5:47 AM






 I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and digest,
yet not compromising his signture or brilliance. 

well i would disagree. his recent music clearly shows he has 
compromised his signature style and brilliance of his 90s music. e.g. 
the result is Tu meri dost hai and Guzarsih, while both songs are very 
mass appealing and instant hits, they clearly lack the distinct ARR 
feeling/sound his music used to have in old days. i remember someone 
commenting on Guzarish that it looks like some anu malik song and not 
an ARR song. though i will completely disagree with the anu malik 
thing but i agree that day by day ARR's music is becoming more and 
more similar to other ordinary bollywood music. this is a HUGE 
compromise at least for me.

--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:

 My parents, who are music lovers and very knowledgeable about
 classical music, have always admired Rahman's music. However, there
 was always a BUT whenever they would talk about Rahman, or if I 
was
 praising Rahman's music in front of them. That BUT was followed 
by,
 Rahman is a genius, has different music, but he's more into rhythm
 and his songs are very difficult to sing. Even on music 
reality
 shows like SaReGaMaPa, previously, when someone would sing a Rahman
 song, at least one of the judges would say, Yeh Gaana Bohut Mushkil
 hai, or This song is very difficult. 
 
 Granted, my parents and others from that generation have not heard
 Rahman's music in total or to the extent that we have, so they are 
not
 as aware of many of the timeless melodies in both Hindi and Tamil by 
him.
 
 Since, Guru, however, and esp this year, however, I have noticed a 
big
 change in not only my parents' attitudes towards Rahman, but from
 others' from that generation, who revere the timeless mmelodies from
 their time. Whenever I bring up Rahman now, they are all praise and
 have no more BUT or HOWEVER in their descriptions. They are
 listening to his CDs more and even revisiting old classics from
 Rahman, which they previously would label as too rhythmic or too
 difficult to sing. Maybe they are getting used to his style, but I
 have a feeling they are recognizing a shift in emphasis as described
 below. 
 
 I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
 of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and 
digest,
 yet not compromising his signture or brilliance. There may be 
changes
 in his arrangements, sound, etc., but I really do think that 
Rahman's
 sense of melodic composition has been more emphasized with better
 contours and form. Since Roja, Rahman has always been a melody 
king,
 but I feel that he is letting the melody and the singer take on a 
more
 important role in his compositions than sound, some arrangements, 
and
 rhythm. For the elders, it's a welcome change. For some of us
 youngsters, and Rahman fans, it's not as welcomed. 
 
 As far as I'm concerned, Rahman is THE only torch bearer from the
 evergreen era of bollywood music which had timeless melodies that 
are
 enjoyed even today. Just goes to show how Rahman's music is
 appreciated by all regions and all ages.


 














  

[arr] Re: Rahman has nullified one major criticism

2008-11-16 Thread Jahanzeb Farooq
 I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and digest,
yet not compromising his signture or brilliance. 

well i would disagree. his recent music clearly shows he has 
compromised his signature style and brilliance of his 90s music. e.g. 
the result is Tu meri dost hai and Guzarsih, while both songs are very 
mass appealing and instant hits, they clearly lack the distinct ARR 
feeling/sound his music used to have in old days. i remember someone 
commenting on Guzarish that it looks like some anu malik song and not 
an ARR song. though i will completely disagree with the anu malik 
thing but i agree that day by day ARR's music is becoming more and 
more similar to other ordinary bollywood music. this is a HUGE 
compromise at least for me.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My parents, who are music lovers and very knowledgeable about
 classical music, have always admired Rahman's music.  However, there
 was always a BUT whenever they would talk about Rahman, or if I 
was
 praising Rahman's music in front of them.  That BUT was followed 
by,
 Rahman is a genius, has different music, but he's more into rhythm
 and his songs are very difficult to sing.  Even on music 
reality
 shows like SaReGaMaPa, previously, when someone would sing a Rahman
 song, at least one of the judges would say, Yeh Gaana Bohut Mushkil
 hai, or This song is very difficult.  
 
 Granted, my parents and others from that generation have not heard
 Rahman's music in total or to the extent that we have, so they are 
not
 as aware of many of the timeless melodies in both Hindi and Tamil by 
him.
 
 Since, Guru, however, and esp this year, however, I have noticed a 
big
 change in not only my parents' attitudes towards Rahman, but from
 others' from that generation, who revere the timeless mmelodies from
 their time.  Whenever I bring up Rahman now, they are all praise and
 have no more BUT or HOWEVER in their descriptions.  They are
 listening to his CDs more and even revisiting old classics from
 Rahman, which they previously would label as too rhythmic or too
 difficult to sing.  Maybe they are getting used to his style, but I
 have a feeling they are recognizing a shift in emphasis as described
 below.  
 
 I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
 of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and 
digest,
 yet not compromising his signture or brilliance.  There may be 
changes
 in his arrangements, sound, etc., but I really do think that 
Rahman's
 sense of melodic composition has been more emphasized with better
 contours and form.  Since Roja, Rahman has always been a melody 
king,
 but I feel that he is letting the melody and the singer take on a 
more
 important role in his compositions than sound, some arrangements, 
and
 rhythm.  For the elders, it's a welcome change.  For some of us
 youngsters, and Rahman fans, it's not as welcomed.  
 
 As far as I'm concerned, Rahman is THE only torch bearer from the
 evergreen era of bollywood music which had timeless melodies that 
are
 enjoyed even today.  Just goes to show how Rahman's music is
 appreciated by all regions and all ages.






[arr] Re: Rahman has nullified one major criticism

2008-11-16 Thread Chord
Too bad for you.  I'm glad I don't feel that way.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb Farooq
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
 of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and digest,
 yet not compromising his signture or brilliance. 
 
 well i would disagree. his recent music clearly shows he has 
 compromised his signature style and brilliance of his 90s music. e.g. 
 the result is Tu meri dost hai and Guzarsih, while both songs are very 
 mass appealing and instant hits, they clearly lack the distinct ARR 
 feeling/sound his music used to have in old days. i remember someone 
 commenting on Guzarish that it looks like some anu malik song and not 
 an ARR song. though i will completely disagree with the anu malik 
 thing but i agree that day by day ARR's music is becoming more and 
 more similar to other ordinary bollywood music. this is a HUGE 
 compromise at least for me.
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord purevibz@ wrote:
 
  My parents, who are music lovers and very knowledgeable about
  classical music, have always admired Rahman's music.  However, there
  was always a BUT whenever they would talk about Rahman, or if I 
 was
  praising Rahman's music in front of them.  That BUT was followed 
 by,
  Rahman is a genius, has different music, but he's more into rhythm
  and his songs are very difficult to sing.  Even on music 
 reality
  shows like SaReGaMaPa, previously, when someone would sing a Rahman
  song, at least one of the judges would say, Yeh Gaana Bohut Mushkil
  hai, or This song is very difficult.  
  
  Granted, my parents and others from that generation have not heard
  Rahman's music in total or to the extent that we have, so they are 
 not
  as aware of many of the timeless melodies in both Hindi and Tamil by 
 him.
  
  Since, Guru, however, and esp this year, however, I have noticed a 
 big
  change in not only my parents' attitudes towards Rahman, but from
  others' from that generation, who revere the timeless mmelodies from
  their time.  Whenever I bring up Rahman now, they are all praise and
  have no more BUT or HOWEVER in their descriptions.  They are
  listening to his CDs more and even revisiting old classics from
  Rahman, which they previously would label as too rhythmic or too
  difficult to sing.  Maybe they are getting used to his style, but I
  have a feeling they are recognizing a shift in emphasis as described
  below.  
  
  I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
  of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and 
 digest,
  yet not compromising his signture or brilliance.  There may be 
 changes
  in his arrangements, sound, etc., but I really do think that 
 Rahman's
  sense of melodic composition has been more emphasized with better
  contours and form.  Since Roja, Rahman has always been a melody 
 king,
  but I feel that he is letting the melody and the singer take on a 
 more
  important role in his compositions than sound, some arrangements, 
 and
  rhythm.  For the elders, it's a welcome change.  For some of us
  youngsters, and Rahman fans, it's not as welcomed.  
  
  As far as I'm concerned, Rahman is THE only torch bearer from the
  evergreen era of bollywood music which had timeless melodies that 
 are
  enjoyed even today.  Just goes to show how Rahman's music is
  appreciated by all regions and all ages.
 





Re: [arr] Re: Rahman has nullified one major criticism

2008-11-16 Thread Thulasi Ram
hey... in 90s ARR was only person producing that sound. now almost everyone
is following ARRs step and try to produce ARR quality sound.. so, u might
feel like that.. just give it a thought.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Jahanzeb Farooq [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
 of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and digest,
 yet not compromising his signture or brilliance.

 well i would disagree. his recent music clearly shows he has
 compromised his signature style and brilliance of his 90s music. e.g.
 the result is Tu meri dost hai and Guzarsih, while both songs are very
 mass appealing and instant hits, they clearly lack the distinct ARR
 feeling/sound his music used to have in old days. i remember someone
 commenting on Guzarish that it looks like some anu malik song and not
 an ARR song. though i will completely disagree with the anu malik
 thing but i agree that day by day ARR's music is becoming more and
 more similar to other ordinary bollywood music. this is a HUGE
 compromise at least for me.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My parents, who are music lovers and very knowledgeable about
  classical music, have always admired Rahman's music. However, there
  was always a BUT whenever they would talk about Rahman, or if I
 was
  praising Rahman's music in front of them. That BUT was followed
 by,
  Rahman is a genius, has different music, but he's more into rhythm
  and his songs are very difficult to sing. Even on music
 reality
  shows like SaReGaMaPa, previously, when someone would sing a Rahman
  song, at least one of the judges would say, Yeh Gaana Bohut Mushkil
  hai, or This song is very difficult.
 
  Granted, my parents and others from that generation have not heard
  Rahman's music in total or to the extent that we have, so they are
 not
  as aware of many of the timeless melodies in both Hindi and Tamil by
 him.
 
  Since, Guru, however, and esp this year, however, I have noticed a
 big
  change in not only my parents' attitudes towards Rahman, but from
  others' from that generation, who revere the timeless mmelodies from
  their time. Whenever I bring up Rahman now, they are all praise and
  have no more BUT or HOWEVER in their descriptions. They are
  listening to his CDs more and even revisiting old classics from
  Rahman, which they previously would label as too rhythmic or too
  difficult to sing. Maybe they are getting used to his style, but I
  have a feeling they are recognizing a shift in emphasis as described
  below.
 
  I too have noticed that Rahman has been emphasizing melody much more
  of late and creating tunes that are much easier to follow and
 digest,
  yet not compromising his signture or brilliance. There may be
 changes
  in his arrangements, sound, etc., but I really do think that
 Rahman's
  sense of melodic composition has been more emphasized with better
  contours and form. Since Roja, Rahman has always been a melody
 king,
  but I feel that he is letting the melody and the singer take on a
 more
  important role in his compositions than sound, some arrangements,
 and
  rhythm. For the elders, it's a welcome change. For some of us
  youngsters, and Rahman fans, it's not as welcomed.
 
  As far as I'm concerned, Rahman is THE only torch bearer from the
  evergreen era of bollywood music which had timeless melodies that
 are
  enjoyed even today. Just goes to show how Rahman's music is
  appreciated by all regions and all ages.