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Ya thats also a fair point by you Rawat but its all about the legacy the past brilliance of A R RAHMAN that a storm starts either of praise or criticism. For me the A R RAHMAN music of yester years was just t superior. thats what i feel. regards, taimur --- On Mon, 8/16/10, V S Rawat wrote: From: V S Rawat Subject: Re: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 4:47 AM And what do you say about reviewers criticizing ARR's music just because it is by ARR whereas they would have appreciated it if it were by anyone else. There are all sort of people. We have to live with them. That's why our own personal judgment and discretion is needed. rawat On 8/15/2010 11:02 PM India Time, _Taimur Nadeem_ wrote: > "I was listening to Endiran as it was composed > > by Rahman only and if it had been by any other composer the critics > would hav shred > > it to pieces." > > hey krishna ,that is also my point the same people who are praising it > would have blasted the album if it would have associated with someone > self. but few understand it. > > regards, > > TAIMUR > KARACHI, > PAKISTAN.( writing to dissipate any doubts of AJ atleast on me )
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On 8/15/2010 11:10 PM India Time, _Taimur Nadeem_ wrote: > and yes it was after 2005 that it all went wrong . Never felt a > beautiful feeling for an A R RAHMAN hindi song after 2005 . just > this could be the reason what you have written. How can anyone miss on so many great ARR songs since 2005. Taking a list just posted by AJ, most if not all of these songs are ARR's post-2005 songs. And this is not even an exhaustive list. Are you really saying that you didn't like even a single song mentioned below? if so, boy, you are missing so much pleasure. --AJ's list Tere Bina Jaage Aye Hairathe Aashiqui Khwaja Mere Khwaja Jashne Bahaar Marudhani Zindagi Muskura Man Mohiney More Ishq Ada (Female) Hawa Sun Hawa Kabhi Aditi Kahin To Jaane Tu Mere Kya Tha (male and female) Kaise Mujhe Rehna Tu Dil Gira Dafatan Maula Mere Maula Bhoola Tujhe Aaromale Sajana VTV Title Song Hosanna Kaadhal Anukal Namakame Ja Re Ud Ja Re -- Rawat > > regards, > > taimur
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And what do you say about reviewers criticizing ARR's music just because it is by ARR whereas they would have appreciated it if it were by anyone else. There are all sort of people. We have to live with them. That's why our own personal judgment and discretion is needed. rawat On 8/15/2010 11:02 PM India Time, _Taimur Nadeem_ wrote: > "I was listening to Endiran as it was composed > > by Rahman only and if it had been by any other composer the critics > would hav shred > > it to pieces." > > hey krishna ,that is also my point the same people who are praising it > would have blasted the album if it would have associated with someone > self. but few understand it. > > regards, > > TAIMUR > KARACHI, > PAKISTAN.( writing to dissipate any doubts of AJ atleast on me )
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I personally don't find any problem even if ARR uses others' loops or gets part of music or BGM done by others (I don't know whether he does or doesn't). ultimately ARR is responsible for the overall quality of music, so he listens to those "others'" work, he must be changing that if he felt it lacking in any way, and then he must be including it in any song or album of his. What we get in the final product is ARR approved sounds. For me it doesn't matter if other persons worked on those sounds. Hasn't it been always the case. It is like various people playing various instruments in recording of any song anywhere in the world, not just bolly or holly film music but even symphonies, operas. The main composer is responsible for the overall music. Of course he can't play 100 instruments all by himself for each song. It is like lyrics, we know that ARR himself has never written lyrics, he is officially having someone to write lyrics for each song, still, ARR is responsible for the lyrics in his songs. What problem can anyone have with it? -- Rawat On 8/16/2010 1:07 AM India Time, _indmovbuff_ wrote: > Kishore, > > I remember you objecting strongly to a post I made about Aisha's > music and how it was not appropriate to compare anything or anyone > to AR's music which I wasn't doing in the first place. only > recommending a non-arr album I liked which does not in any way > imply that I like Amit more than AR etc. > > But this accusation of yours- accusing Rahman of using "arrangers" > to do the BGM is just way off the line, man. Way below the belt. > Just re-read what you wrote and think how AR would feel if someone > accused him of using someone else to do the BGM but take credit for > it entirely like when he won Best Background score at Filmfare. I > hope you understand the significance of your accusation. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore > parayath wrote: >> >> No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a >> fool, to re-use the same style of writing after creating a new >> ID. And everyone in this group knows, that Iam straigtforward and >> at times outspoken.If I want to tell something, I will straight >> away tell it, whether it is positive or negative. I dont need a >> separate identity for that. >> >> And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. >> I disagree on the same. (Except Naan Varuven). By the way, My >> reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and >> he cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept >> that, due to Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on >> him. So he cannot handle the arrangements' department alone. So, >> he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, U cannot expect the complete >> Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That is just because >> time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. Till >> around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with >> maximum quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and >> there was magic in every layer. But since, many people brought >> allegations that ARR is not accepting many offers, and he is >> disappointing the directors, ARR had to change his strategy, >> since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be >> disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to >> many, due to the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure >> has tripled, and so has the quantity. So, no one can blame ARR >> here for taking up projects, or not finding magic in his songs. >> >> Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. >> You will find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. jai ho. >> >> Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! >> I have been in this group for years.. and i have shared >> everything positive and negative, using my own identity. >> >> Jai ho.
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Hi Taimur, I can understand your disliking of a particular AR album or any of the albums from 2000 onwards. But the problem with your posts are that...after reading your mails the reader feels that you want to convince others that AR's music is bad and he will be jobless very soon. Same is the case with Kishore. --- On Sun, 15/8/10, Taimur Nadeem wrote: From: Taimur Nadeem Subject: Re: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 15 August, 2010, 1:40 PM and i am not a fool as well who will come up with use the SAME STYLE of writing after creating a new id . hey kishore if someone thinks in the way we do , why allegations of multiple ids are put on . tolerance has to prevail. and yes it was after 2005 that it all went wrong . Never felt a beautiful feeling for an A R RAHMAN hindi song after 2005 . just this could be the reason what you have written. regards, taimur --- On Sun, 8/15/10, kishore parayath wrote: From: kishore parayath Subject: Re: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:18 PM No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree on the same. (Except Naan Varuven).By the way, My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has the quantity. So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic in his songs. Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. jai ho. Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and negative, using my own identity. Jai ho.
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Geez! This group is hitting new low point each day (@arrangers doing the work and ARR taking their credit). After reading such messages, I just wish ARR to stop visiting this group because these messages will (probably) just distract him. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "indmovbuff" wrote: > > > Kishore, > > I remember you objecting strongly to a post I made about Aisha's music and > how it was not appropriate to compare anything or anyone to AR's music which > I wasn't doing in the first place. only recommending a non-arr album I liked > which does not in any way imply that I like Amit more than AR etc. > > But this accusation of yours- accusing Rahman of using "arrangers" to do the > BGM is just way off the line, man. Way below the belt. Just re-read what you > wrote and think how AR would feel if someone accused him of using someone > else to do the BGM but take credit for it entirely like when he won Best > Background score at Filmfare. I hope you understand the significance of your > accusation. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath > wrote: > > > > No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use > > the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this > > group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to > > tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or > > negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. > > > > And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree > > on the same. (Except Naan Varuven). > > By the way, > > My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he > > cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to > > Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle > > the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, > > U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That > > is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. > > Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum > > quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in > > every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not > > accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to > > change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be > > disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to > > the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has > > the quantity. > > So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic > > in his songs. > > > > Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will > > find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. > > jai ho. > > > > Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been > > in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and > > negative, using my own identity. > > > > Jai ho. > > >
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"yes it was after 2005 that it all went wrong . Never felt a beautiful feeling for an A R RAHMAN hindi song after 2005 . just this could be the reason what you have written" Wow, you and Kishore agree completely all the time! What a coincidence.as if you're twins..or alter egos! If something did go wrong after 2005, it wasn't ARR or his music according to most people. look a little closer to home.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem wrote: > > and i am not a fool as well who will come up with use the SAME STYLE of > writing after creating a new id . hey kishore if someone thinks in the way we > do , why allegations of multiple ids are put on . tolerance has to prevail. > and yes it was after 2005 that it all went wrong . Never felt a beautiful > feeling for an A R RAHMAN hindi song after 2005 . just this could be the > reason what you have written. > > regards, > > taimur > > --- On Sun, 8/15/10, kishore parayath wrote: > > From: kishore parayath > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:18 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to > re-use the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in > this group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to > tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or > negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. > > And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree > on the same. (Except Naan Varuven).By the way, My reply to the thread > starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he cannot avoid Tamil films at > the same time... But U must accept that, due to Rahman's busy schedule, there > is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle the arrangements' department > alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, U cannot expect the complete > Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That is just because time doesnt > permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. > Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum > quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in every > layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not accepting > many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to change his > strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be > disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to the > busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has the > quantity. > So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic in > his songs. > Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will > find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. > jai ho. > Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been > in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and negative, > using my own identity. > > Jai ho. >
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Indmovbuff, You nailed it! Agree completely! At the same time, ARR is part of a team of musicians and if blame or credit is to be given, it's ARR's ultimate responsibility for the product, but there are others who contribute. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "indmovbuff" wrote: > > > Kishore, > > I remember you objecting strongly to a post I made about Aisha's music and > how it was not appropriate to compare anything or anyone to AR's music which > I wasn't doing in the first place. only recommending a non-arr album I liked > which does not in any way imply that I like Amit more than AR etc. > > But this accusation of yours- accusing Rahman of using "arrangers" to do the > BGM is just way off the line, man. Way below the belt. Just re-read what you > wrote and think how AR would feel if someone accused him of using someone > else to do the BGM but take credit for it entirely like when he won Best > Background score at Filmfare. I hope you understand the significance of your > accusation. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath > wrote: > > > > No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use > > the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this > > group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to > > tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or > > negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. > > > > And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree > > on the same. (Except Naan Varuven). > > By the way, > > My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he > > cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to > > Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle > > the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, > > U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That > > is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. > > Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum > > quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in > > every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not > > accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to > > change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be > > disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to > > the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has > > the quantity. > > So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic > > in his songs. > > > > Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will > > find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. > > jai ho. > > > > Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been > > in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and > > negative, using my own identity. > > > > Jai ho. > > >
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Okay, we believe you Kishore. By the way, where did you get the news about 'BATTLESHIP' SAJIN From: kishore parayath To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:18:34 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree on the same. (Except Naan Varuven). By the way, My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has the quantity. So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic in his songs. Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. jai ho. Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and negative, using my own identity. Jai ho.
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Kishor bro ..Seems u live with the Man Himself !! Please Remind him that he is yet to give me chance of taking a pic with him !! Please do this for me :-( And we would really like to hear the arrangers names also ! I feel "Their" arrangements are the best in the world !! let's know their name as well :-) You are full of informations !! hmm On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:52 AM, fani kalyan wrote: > > > So what are the names of those 6-8 arrangers, their names are never seen on > any cds? > > > --- On *Sun, 8/15/10, kishore parayath *wrote: > > > From: kishore parayath > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 11:18 AM > > > > > No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to > re-use the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in > this group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want > to tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or > negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. > > And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I > disagree on the same. (Except Naan Varuven). > By the way, > My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he > cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to > Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle > the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, > U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That > is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. > Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum > quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in > every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not > accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to > change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be > disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to > the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has > the quantity. > So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic > in his songs. > > Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will > find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. > jai ho. > > Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have > been in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and > negative, using my own identity. > > Jai ho. > > > > > > -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
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Kishore, I remember you objecting strongly to a post I made about Aisha's music and how it was not appropriate to compare anything or anyone to AR's music which I wasn't doing in the first place. only recommending a non-arr album I liked which does not in any way imply that I like Amit more than AR etc. But this accusation of yours- accusing Rahman of using "arrangers" to do the BGM is just way off the line, man. Way below the belt. Just re-read what you wrote and think how AR would feel if someone accused him of using someone else to do the BGM but take credit for it entirely like when he won Best Background score at Filmfare. I hope you understand the significance of your accusation. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath wrote: > > No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use > the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this > group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to > tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or > negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. > > And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree > on the same. (Except Naan Varuven). > By the way, > My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he > cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to > Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle > the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, > U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That > is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. > Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum > quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in > every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not > accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to > change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be > disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to > the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has > the quantity. > So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic > in his songs. > > Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will > find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. > jai ho. > > Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been > in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and > negative, using my own identity. > > Jai ho. >
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hey AJ ,hmmm do someone really exists with multiple ids , so much suspicion in your mind , relax guy but its always good to read yur posts . "I was listening to Endiran as it was composed > by Rahman only and if it had been by any other composer the critics would hav > shred > it to pieces." hey krishna ,that is also my point the same people who are praising it would have blasted the album if it would have associated with someone self. but few understand it. regards, TAIMUR KARACHI, PAKISTAN.( writing to dissipate any doubts of AJ atleast on me ) --- On Sun, 8/15/10, AJ wrote: From: AJ Subject: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 3:59 PM Hmmm.the same old capital letters againthe same style of writing...is someone having fun using multiple IDs here to try and make it appear that his or her opinions have support? "The Rahman today is more dependent on his brand name than on the strength of his music > or his tunes may be with the exception of a VTV or a RAVAN.or Couple's > Retreat, or Delhi 6, or Yuvvraaj, or Jodha Akbar, or Ada,..etc.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishna prasad wrote: > > Hi friends, > > The Rahman today is more dependent on his brand name than on the strength of > his music > or his tunes may be with the exception of a VTV or a RAVAN cos when i was > listening to > Endiran ( it was really a good album) but the fact was the music arrangement > was not anything we could associate with Rahman. I was listening to Endiran > as it was composed > by Rahman only and if it had been by any other composer the critics would hav > shred > it to pieces. > > I understand that Rahman is busy with his international assignments and he > his taking up > tamil projects as they are forced on him. > > Dear sir don't take up any tamil projects and if you do, we need nothing > short of a RAHMAN ALBUM meeting all the criteria associated with you.I feel > this is something you could do to your dear old TAMIL FANS. > > The main point i would like to make is that Rahman's music should be enjoyed > by > EVERYONE and not just people would understand the finer aspects of Rahman's > music > which is what is happening right now as more and more people get alienated > from our Oscar winner. Remember even Buddha's teaching could not have got the > due acceptance > if it had been so complex. > > I feel someone could take up this matter with boss, not as a compliant but as > a general > media feedback. > > regards > Krishna >
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and i am not a fool as well who will come up with use the SAME STYLE of writing after creating a new id . hey kishore if someone thinks in the way we do , why allegations of multiple ids are put on . tolerance has to prevail. and yes it was after 2005 that it all went wrong . Never felt a beautiful feeling for an A R RAHMAN hindi song after 2005 . just this could be the reason what you have written. regards, taimur --- On Sun, 8/15/10, kishore parayath wrote: From: kishore parayath Subject: Re: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:18 PM No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree on the same. (Except Naan Varuven).By the way, My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has the quantity. So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic in his songs. Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. jai ho. Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and negative, using my own identity. Jai ho.
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"So, U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs.: That is a very subjective take.what you find non magical, someone else may find it so. What he may find non magical, you may find magical. There is no formula, there is no one truth, there is no final period. "The AR Signature" is not made up of X, Y, and Z like a chemical equation..it's up to the listener to determine it so, only validated by consensusbut even high consensus does not make something so when it comes to judging art and music. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath wrote: > > No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use > the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this > group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to > tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or > negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. > > And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree > on the same. (Except Naan Varuven). > By the way, > My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he > cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to > Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle > the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, > U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That > is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. > Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum > quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in > every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not > accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to > change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be > disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to > the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has > the quantity. > So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic > in his songs. > > Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will > find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. > jai ho. > > Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been > in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and > negative, using my own identity. > > Jai ho. >
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So what are the names of those 6-8 arrangers, their names are never seen on any cds? --- On Sun, 8/15/10, kishore parayath wrote: From: kishore parayath Subject: Re: [arr] Re: THE RAHMAN TODAY To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 11:18 AM No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree on the same. (Except Naan Varuven).By the way, My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has the quantity. So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic in his songs. Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. jai ho. Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and negative, using my own identity. Jai ho.
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No way... Iam sorry..I know u suspect me for that. Iam not a fool, to re-use the same style of writing after creating a new ID. And everyone in this group knows, that Iam straigtforward and at times outspoken.If I want to tell something, I will straight away tell it, whether it is positive or negative. I dont need a separate identity for that. And I do disagree on many things he said. He said Raavan is good. I disagree on the same. (Except Naan Varuven). By the way, My reply to the thread starter is: Rahman is too busy as u said, and he cannot avoid Tamil films at the same time... But U must accept that, due to Rahman's busy schedule, there is heavy pressure on him. So he cannot handle the arrangements' department alone. So, he uses 6-8 people for the same. So, U cannot expect the complete Rahman magic in the arrangements or BGMs. That is just because time doesnt permit Rahman sir to handle everything alone. Till around 2005, ARR concentrated on doing minimal work, with maximum quality. So he handled most of the things alone, and there was magic in every layer. But since, many people brought allegations that ARR is not accepting many offers, and he is disappointing the directors, ARR had to change his strategy, since the human-being in him did not want anyone to be disappointed. So, he had to delegate his arrangement work to many, due to the busy schedule. After the oscars, this pressure has tripled, and so has the quantity. So, no one can blame ARR here for taking up projects, or not finding magic in his songs. Do wait for 'Battleship' , his upcoming big project in Hollywood. You will find the 'Complete AR RAHMAN Signature' in it. jai ho. Once again to all: I dont need an alter ego to express my views! I have been in this group for years.. and i have shared everything positive and negative, using my own identity. Jai ho.
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I have that doubt too. very suspicious. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:29 PM, AJ wrote: > > > Hmmm.the same old capital letters againthe same style of > writing...is someone having fun using multiple IDs here to try and make > it appear that his or her opinions have support? > > > "The Rahman today is more dependent on his brand name than on the strength > of his music > > or his tunes may be with the exception of a VTV or a RAVAN.or > Couple's Retreat, or Delhi 6, or Yuvvraaj, or Jodha Akbar, or > Ada,..etc.. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > krishna prasad wrote: > > > > Hi friends, > > > > The Rahman today is more dependent on his brand name than on the strength > of his music > > or his tunes may be with the exception of a VTV or a RAVAN cos when i > was listening to > > Endiran ( it was really a good album) but the fact was the music > arrangement was not anything we could associate with Rahman. I was listening > to Endiran as it was composed > > by Rahman only and if it had been by any other composer the critics would > hav shred > > it to pieces. > > > > I understand that Rahman is busy with his international assignments and > he his taking up > > tamil projects as they are forced on him. > > > > Dear sir don't take up any tamil projects and if you do, we need nothing > short of a RAHMAN ALBUM meeting all the criteria associated with you.I feel > this is something you could do to your dear old TAMIL FANS. > > > > The main point i would like to make is that Rahman's music should be > enjoyed by > > EVERYONE and not just people would understand the finer aspects of > Rahman's music > > which is what is happening right now as more and more people get > alienated from our Oscar winner. Remember even Buddha's teaching could not > have got the due acceptance > > if it had been so complex. > > > > I feel someone could take up this matter with boss, not as a compliant > but as a general > > media feedback. > > > > regards > > Krishna > > > > > -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
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Hmmm.the same old capital letters againthe same style of writing...is someone having fun using multiple IDs here to try and make it appear that his or her opinions have support? "The Rahman today is more dependent on his brand name than on the strength of his music > or his tunes may be with the exception of a VTV or a RAVAN.or Couple's > Retreat, or Delhi 6, or Yuvvraaj, or Jodha Akbar, or Ada,..etc.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishna prasad wrote: > > Hi friends, > > The Rahman today is more dependent on his brand name than on the strength of > his music > or his tunes may be with the exception of a VTV or a RAVAN cos when i was > listening to > Endiran ( it was really a good album) but the fact was the music arrangement > was not anything we could associate with Rahman. I was listening to Endiran > as it was composed > by Rahman only and if it had been by any other composer the critics would hav > shred > it to pieces. > > I understand that Rahman is busy with his international assignments and he > his taking up > tamil projects as they are forced on him. > > Dear sir don't take up any tamil projects and if you do, we need nothing > short of a RAHMAN ALBUM meeting all the criteria associated with you.I feel > this is something you could do to your dear old TAMIL FANS. > > The main point i would like to make is that Rahman's music should be enjoyed > by > EVERYONE and not just people would understand the finer aspects of Rahman's > music > which is what is happening right now as more and more people get alienated > from our Oscar winner. Remember even Buddha's teaching could not have got the > due acceptance > if it had been so complex. > > I feel someone could take up this matter with boss, not as a compliant but as > a general > media feedback. > > regards > Krishna >
