[arr] Re: What is our role as a fan group ?
Bravo! Awesome post, Ram! Keep em coming! Totally agree! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ram Motipally mramvina...@... wrote: Friends, I have been seeing some of the mails since Endhiran music has been released. There have been good, bad as well as outright ugly emails. This had me thinking, who are we as fans, what role do we have and since we are in a group, is there a decorum we need to follow ? Do we just allow all opinions or do we try to always be appreciative. I do not know all the answers, but this set me across a thought process which I wanted to pen down here. Since this is a AR fna group, what is the dictionary definition of a fan ? (reproduced from m-w.com) Main Entry: 3fan Function: noun Etymology: probably short for fanatic Date: 1682 1 : an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport or a performing art) usually as a spectator 2 : an ardent admirer or enthusiast (as of a celebrity or a pursuit) science-fiction fans If we take this definition, we are more or less (most of us) enthusiastic devotees/admirers or enthusiasts of AR, right ? And to enlarge this, we should be admirers of his entire body of work or his body of work over the total duration. Now, this does not mean we have to admire every song or album that he has ever churned out. At the very least this means that we need to have a context of the man, his music and his entire body of work. We need to be sensitive to the fact that the music is an input of many people like the director of the movie, producer, context of the movie, scene, emotion etc. Are we really fans of AR or his music, if we just react to every song and album as a standalone piece of work ? Isnt that primarily a function of our like or dislike ? What has AR and his music got to do with our like or dislike ? Let me give the example of food - I love avakai (kind of pickle in andhra). If I feed it to my american friend, telling him it is the best thing in the world, he will run away ! Now, most of my american friends enjoy steaks (beef), I can never ever eat one ! Does this mean avakai or beef is good or bad ? Absolutely no, it is just a function of my like/dislike, my upbringing, my culture etc. Now, what does one do if you dont enjoy a certain AR album or song ? If we are just reacting to our like/dislike at that point in time, then we will praise the song we like and rip the song we dont like. Infact what is happening is the individual is just reacting to his/her like/dislike, AR or the song has nothing to do with it. This will happen for any song or any musician they will hear. But if you are really a fan, you will go with a positive intent to enjoy the song, because you know the musician and his large body of work and know that you can expect quality stuff. You are patient, you invest more energy as you are a fan and take all possible efforts to not miss the quality music, you have experienced in the past. It is possible that you might still not like the music. I have not liked many of AR's songs or albums. Many times it is also a function of how I am feeling at the time. I might be neck deep in work issues and not find the effort to enjoy the music. Or I might be going through some personal issues and not be in the right frame of mind to enjoy AR's music at that point in time. Sometimes when I revisit the song after many years, I start to like it. Sometimes being in a forum like this and listening to others opinions helps me enjoy the music even more and discover other nuances, that I think is the best part of my being part of this fan group. So, what is a good responsibility to have as a fan ? If one is really a fan, I think the following should apply: 1) The fan will take reasonable efforts and invest energy to enjoy each new piece of work. This is owed by the fan to himself/herself for having known AR and his music for a long duration. 2) Please be generous with praise. But be a little understated with criticism. Never be blatantly nasty with criticism, if that is what you want, please go to some other group. 3) If you dont like the song/album please use decency in expressing it. 4) And finally AR does not owe anything to anyone. So any opinions of what he is doing, what he should do and how he should do anything are totally uncalled for. At best suggestions/recommendations can be made. To summarize, if you really believe you are a fan, please act responsibly as one. If you are not a fan, but just like to listen to some work or AR and rip some, then please do so with decency. If you are outright malicious and only intent is to criticize AR or his music (there are some here) please stay away from this group. I hope atleast some of you will agree with these views and that too after Gopal allows this post. Cheers ! Ram
[arr] Re: What is our role as a fan group ?
Some notable members also bring in a TON of negativity to this group beyond just criticizing or not liking an albumconstantly telling us how he doesn't like ARR's music post a certain year and after each ARR album, completely writing it off saying how disappointed he is and once again, how he has not been impressed with an ARR song since a certain year, how things went wrong after a certain yearetc. etc. Give it up.if ARR is that disappointing to you these days, why keep posting here? Please let the rest of us enjoy his work today and stop distracting our appreciation with your constant negativity! As someone else posted.your silence is sweetness! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Bravo! Awesome post, Ram! Keep em coming! Totally agree! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ram Motipally mramvinayak@ wrote: Friends, I have been seeing some of the mails since Endhiran music has been released. There have been good, bad as well as outright ugly emails. This had me thinking, who are we as fans, what role do we have and since we are in a group, is there a decorum we need to follow ? Do we just allow all opinions or do we try to always be appreciative. I do not know all the answers, but this set me across a thought process which I wanted to pen down here. Since this is a AR fna group, what is the dictionary definition of a fan ? (reproduced from m-w.com) Main Entry: 3fan Function: noun Etymology: probably short for fanatic Date: 1682 1 : an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport or a performing art) usually as a spectator 2 : an ardent admirer or enthusiast (as of a celebrity or a pursuit) science-fiction fans If we take this definition, we are more or less (most of us) enthusiastic devotees/admirers or enthusiasts of AR, right ? And to enlarge this, we should be admirers of his entire body of work or his body of work over the total duration. Now, this does not mean we have to admire every song or album that he has ever churned out. At the very least this means that we need to have a context of the man, his music and his entire body of work. We need to be sensitive to the fact that the music is an input of many people like the director of the movie, producer, context of the movie, scene, emotion etc. Are we really fans of AR or his music, if we just react to every song and album as a standalone piece of work ? Isnt that primarily a function of our like or dislike ? What has AR and his music got to do with our like or dislike ? Let me give the example of food - I love avakai (kind of pickle in andhra). If I feed it to my american friend, telling him it is the best thing in the world, he will run away ! Now, most of my american friends enjoy steaks (beef), I can never ever eat one ! Does this mean avakai or beef is good or bad ? Absolutely no, it is just a function of my like/dislike, my upbringing, my culture etc. Now, what does one do if you dont enjoy a certain AR album or song ? If we are just reacting to our like/dislike at that point in time, then we will praise the song we like and rip the song we dont like. Infact what is happening is the individual is just reacting to his/her like/dislike, AR or the song has nothing to do with it. This will happen for any song or any musician they will hear. But if you are really a fan, you will go with a positive intent to enjoy the song, because you know the musician and his large body of work and know that you can expect quality stuff. You are patient, you invest more energy as you are a fan and take all possible efforts to not miss the quality music, you have experienced in the past. It is possible that you might still not like the music. I have not liked many of AR's songs or albums. Many times it is also a function of how I am feeling at the time. I might be neck deep in work issues and not find the effort to enjoy the music. Or I might be going through some personal issues and not be in the right frame of mind to enjoy AR's music at that point in time. Sometimes when I revisit the song after many years, I start to like it. Sometimes being in a forum like this and listening to others opinions helps me enjoy the music even more and discover other nuances, that I think is the best part of my being part of this fan group. So, what is a good responsibility to have as a fan ? If one is really a fan, I think the following should apply: 1) The fan will take reasonable efforts and invest energy to enjoy each new piece of work. This is owed by the fan to himself/herself for having known AR and his music for a long duration. 2) Please be generous with praise. But be a little understated with criticism. Never be blatantly nasty with
Re: [arr] Re: What is our role as a fan group ?
Yes I totally agree, negativity is one thing i hate to read, there is full of positive energy ARR has given us right from roja to Endiran, and people have not stopped comparing. ARR has moved on from 1990 to 2010 and has taken us with him, but for some reason there are few people still in 90s, come on guys catch a bus and come to this century, there are so many new and enjoyable things happening here, Better late than Never On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:41 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Some notable members also bring in a TON of negativity to this group beyond just criticizing or not liking an albumconstantly telling us how he doesn't like ARR's music post a certain year and after each ARR album, completely writing it off saying how disappointed he is and once again, how he has not been impressed with an ARR song since a certain year, how things went wrong after a certain yearetc. etc. Give it up.if ARR is that disappointing to you these days, why keep posting here? Please let the rest of us enjoy his work today and stop distracting our appreciation with your constant negativity! As someone else posted.your silence is sweetness! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Bravo! Awesome post, Ram! Keep em coming! Totally agree! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Ram Motipally mramvinayak@ wrote: Friends, I have been seeing some of the mails since Endhiran music has been released. There have been good, bad as well as outright ugly emails. This had me thinking, who are we as fans, what role do we have and since we are in a group, is there a decorum we need to follow ? Do we just allow all opinions or do we try to always be appreciative. I do not know all the answers, but this set me across a thought process which I wanted to pen down here. Since this is a AR fna group, what is the dictionary definition of a fan ? (reproduced from m-w.com) Main Entry: 3fan Function: noun Etymology: probably short for fanatic Date: 1682 1 : an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport or a performing art) usually as a spectator 2 : an ardent admirer or enthusiast (as of a celebrity or a pursuit) science-fiction fans If we take this definition, we are more or less (most of us) enthusiastic devotees/admirers or enthusiasts of AR, right ? And to enlarge this, we should be admirers of his entire body of work or his body of work over the total duration. Now, this does not mean we have to admire every song or album that he has ever churned out. At the very least this means that we need to have a context of the man, his music and his entire body of work. We need to be sensitive to the fact that the music is an input of many people like the director of the movie, producer, context of the movie, scene, emotion etc. Are we really fans of AR or his music, if we just react to every song and album as a standalone piece of work ? Isnt that primarily a function of our like or dislike ? What has AR and his music got to do with our like or dislike ? Let me give the example of food - I love avakai (kind of pickle in andhra). If I feed it to my american friend, telling him it is the best thing in the world, he will run away ! Now, most of my american friends enjoy steaks (beef), I can never ever eat one ! Does this mean avakai or beef is good or bad ? Absolutely no, it is just a function of my like/dislike, my upbringing, my culture etc. Now, what does one do if you dont enjoy a certain AR album or song ? If we are just reacting to our like/dislike at that point in time, then we will praise the song we like and rip the song we dont like. Infact what is happening is the individual is just reacting to his/her like/dislike, AR or the song has nothing to do with it. This will happen for any song or any musician they will hear. But if you are really a fan, you will go with a positive intent to enjoy the song, because you know the musician and his large body of work and know that you can expect quality stuff. You are patient, you invest more energy as you are a fan and take all possible efforts to not miss the quality music, you have experienced in the past. It is possible that you might still not like the music. I have not liked many of AR's songs or albums. Many times it is also a function of how I am feeling at the time. I might be neck deep in work issues and not find the effort to enjoy the music. Or I might be going through some personal issues and not be in the right frame of mind to enjoy AR's music at that point in time. Sometimes when I revisit the song after many years, I start to like it. Sometimes being in a forum like this and listening to others opinions helps me enjoy the music even more and discover other
