Re: [arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE

[Thulasi Ram]

Rajeev Masand, cine critic, CNN-IBN..
in my opinion, his reviews are honest (but not entirely bcuz he gave Guru 4
stars :-p) and better than taran adarsh.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:30 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Who is this Masand guy?
>
> --
> Rawat
>
> On 11/22/2008 10:20 AM India Time, _Thulasi Ram_ wrote:
>
> > i didnt expect Masand would say this ...
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:26 PM, kumar0305 <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > You all were sending me crape emails, moderator is not posting any
> > of my post because I said " Whats wrong with you Rahman". I know
> > moderator is not going to post this one too, but he will read this,
> > I hope.
> >
> > Now what are you guys going to do. *Being fans don't mean you
> > support every thing you idol makes, when its bad try to accept it.
> > *
> >
> > Masand's Verdict: Yuvvraaj doesn't hit the right note
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE

[Shah Navas]

Do you think it's worth replying to these mails. Just let it pass and let
such people grow. They need time.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:42 AM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   On 11/22/2008 10:49 AM India Time, _Vithur_ wrote:
>
> > The Moderator here is very liberal. He is a very genuine person and
> > doesnt block mails without a reason.
> >
> > Dont blame the mod or ARR for any reason
>
> I wholeheartedly agree with Vithur.
>
> Gops, the mod, is a very sincere and most liberal person, and
> hardworking too. In Oct, this list saw the highest ever 2731 mails and
> he vetted each one laboriously. that is some 90 mails a day approved,
> not to count the spams that he didn't pass on to the list. That requires
> a lot of time, patience and efforts and he has it all - only because he
> loves our man.
>
> In my stay of 10 years in this list, I had posted 100s of mails
> criticizing quite a few songs of ARR, and he approved most of them,
> almost all of them to reach the group.
>
> ARR is working in a commercial environment and so he has to withstand
> the pressures and brickbats, so it is somewhat OK if you say undue bad
> thing about ARR, but Gops is selflessly working all the time for this
> list only for the love of our man, not earning a cent, spending his own
> money on net/ pc to keep this list running, so that it has bloomed to an
> enviable figure of 13970 members today, spending his time and efforts,
> loosing his peace of mind reading all such things that the likes of you
> write about ARR, so I think it is a sin to say a bad thing about Gops.
>
> Now that your mail has got approved, your basic premise has proved
> baseless. Do you think you owe an apology to Gops now? Be a sport, dear.
>
> --
> Rawat
>
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:56 AM, kumar0305 <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > You all were sending me crape emails, moderator is not posting any
> > of my post because I said " Whats wrong with you Rahman". I know
> > moderator is not going to post this one too, but he will read this,
> > I hope.
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE

[V S Rawat]

Who is this Masand guy?

-- 
Rawat

On 11/22/2008 10:20 AM India Time, _Thulasi Ram_ wrote:

> i didnt expect Masand would say this ...
> 
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:26 PM, kumar0305 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> You all were sending me crape emails, moderator is not posting any
> of my post because I said " Whats wrong with you Rahman". I know
> moderator is not going to post this one too, but he will read this,
> I hope. 
> 
> Now what are you guys going to do. *Being fans don't mean you
> support every thing you idol makes, when its bad try to accept it.
> *
> 
> Masand's Verdict: Yuvvraaj doesn't hit the right note
> 

Re: [arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE

[V S Rawat]

On 11/22/2008 10:49 AM India Time, _Vithur_ wrote:

> The Moderator here is very liberal. He is a very genuine person and 
> doesnt block mails without a reason.
>  
> Dont blame the mod or ARR for any reason

I wholeheartedly agree with Vithur.

Gops, the mod, is a very sincere and most liberal person, and 
hardworking too. In Oct, this list saw the highest ever 2731 mails and 
he vetted each one laboriously. that is some 90 mails a day approved, 
not to count the spams that he didn't pass on to the list. That requires 
a lot of time, patience and efforts and he has it all - only because he 
loves our man.

In my stay of 10 years in this list, I had posted 100s of mails 
criticizing quite a few songs of ARR, and he approved most of them, 
almost all of them to reach the group.

ARR is working in a commercial environment and so he has to withstand 
the pressures and brickbats, so it is somewhat OK if you say undue bad 
thing about ARR, but Gops is selflessly working all the time for this 
list only for the love of our man, not earning a cent, spending his own 
money on net/ pc to keep this list running, so that it has bloomed to an 
enviable figure of 13970 members today, spending his time and efforts, 
loosing his peace of mind reading all such things that the likes of you 
write about ARR, so I think it is a sin to say a bad thing about Gops.

Now that your mail has got approved, your basic premise has proved 
baseless. Do you think you owe an apology to Gops now? Be a sport, dear.

--
Rawat

> 
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:56 AM, kumar0305 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> You all were sending me crape emails, moderator is not posting any
> of my post because I said " Whats wrong with you Rahman". I know
> moderator is not going to post this one too, but he will read this,
> I hope. 
> 

Re: [arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE

[Vithur]

The Moderator here is very liberal. He is a very genuine person and doesnt
block mails without a reason.

Dont blame the mod or ARR for any reason

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:56 AM, kumar0305 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>You all were sending me crape emails, moderator is not posting any of
> my post because I said " Whats wrong with you Rahman". I know moderator is
> not going to post this one too, but he will read this, I hope.
> Now what are you guys going to do. *Being fans don't mean you support
> every thing you idol makes, when its bad try to accept it.
> *
>
> Masand's Verdict: Yuvvraaj doesn't hit the right note
>
> The dialogue is a mix of clunky lines that make you cringe in
> embarrassment, and a bunch of unintentionally hilarious gems that will make
> you laugh every time you think of the film. Like that priceless scene in
> which Katrina scolds Salman for being an insensitive son to his father: *Jo
> bete ne apne baap ki shakal sapne mein bhi na dekhi ho, woh beta nahin, woh
> hardcore anti-family man hai.*
>
> There was a slim chance the film might not have hurt this bad if the acting
> was any better, but to think the stars of this film were paid crores of
> rupees to put up this show makes you realise that indeed life is unfair.
> Salman Khan does pretty much as he pleases, walking in and out of scenes as
> if he were at home, never mindful of the fact that he's playing a character
> here and that some consistency in performance is expected of him. He just
> about scrapes through the comedy with a few light moments, but completely
> fails to touch your heart in the film's emotional scenes.
>
> Zayed Khan struggles through even basic scenes in the film, unable to alter
> his expressions in keeping with the film's needs, yelling when he's expected
> to be intense, and looking away in exasperation each time he can't come up
> with a more fitting reaction. A crash course in acting at Ghai's own
> Whistling Woods Film School might not be such a bad idea for Zayed.
>
> Katrina Kaif looks lovely and makes an earnest attempt in the acting
> department too -- in a film like this, that's plenty effort. Boman Irani
> hams it up as Katrina's doctor dad, and turns in what is sure to be one of
> his career's most embarrassing performances.
>
> And then there's Anil Kapoor whose character I had difficulty understanding
> - was he autistic, was he blind, did he have arthritis? I never did get it
> in the end because of the strange mannerisms and quirks Anil brought to his
> performance. And yet, it's the only performance in the film where some
> competence is visible.
>
> Ghai spares no efforts in giving *Yuvvraaj* a fancy feel, there's pleasing
> photography and spunky choreography on display, but AR Rahman's soundtrack
> throws up only three good tracks which is a shame considering the film's
> designed as a musical.
>
> *Yuvvraaj* doesn't quite hit the right note because it's an archaic drama
> that feels too tired. Barring a handful of vintage Subhash Ghai moments that
> still work, the film sadly is far from his best work.
>
> I'm going with one out of five for director Subhash Ghai's *Yuvvraaj*, I'd
> much rather watch *Hero* or *Karma*all over again.
>
> 
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur

Re: [arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE

[Thulasi Ram]

i didnt expect Masand would say this ...

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:26 PM, kumar0305 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   You all were sending me crape emails, moderator is not posting any of my
> post because I said " Whats wrong with you Rahman". I know moderator is not
> going to post this one too, but he will read this, I hope.
> Now what are you guys going to do. *Being fans don't mean you support
> every thing you idol makes, when its bad try to accept it.
> *
>
> Masand's Verdict: Yuvvraaj doesn't hit the right note
>
> The dialogue is a mix of clunky lines that make you cringe in
> embarrassment, and a bunch of unintentionally hilarious gems that will make
> you laugh every time you think of the film. Like that priceless scene in
> which Katrina scolds Salman for being an insensitive son to his father: *Jo
> bete ne apne baap ki shakal sapne mein bhi na dekhi ho, woh beta nahin, woh
> hardcore anti-family man hai.*
>
> There was a slim chance the film might not have hurt this bad if the acting
> was any better, but to think the stars of this film were paid crores of
> rupees to put up this show makes you realise that indeed life is unfair.
> Salman Khan does pretty much as he pleases, walking in and out of scenes as
> if he were at home, never mindful of the fact that he's playing a character
> here and that some consistency in performance is expected of him. He just
> about scrapes through the comedy with a few light moments, but completely
> fails to touch your heart in the film's emotional scenes.
>
> Zayed Khan struggles through even basic scenes in the film, unable to alter
> his expressions in keeping with the film's needs, yelling when he's expected
> to be intense, and looking away in exasperation each time he can't come up
> with a more fitting reaction. A crash course in acting at Ghai's own
> Whistling Woods Film School might not be such a bad idea for Zayed.
>
> Katrina Kaif looks lovely and makes an earnest attempt in the acting
> department too -- in a film like this, that's plenty effort. Boman Irani
> hams it up as Katrina's doctor dad, and turns in what is sure to be one of
> his career's most embarrassing performances.
>
> And then there's Anil Kapoor whose character I had difficulty understanding
> - was he autistic, was he blind, did he have arthritis? I never did get it
> in the end because of the strange mannerisms and quirks Anil brought to his
> performance. And yet, it's the only performance in the film where some
> competence is visible.
>
> Ghai spares no efforts in giving *Yuvvraaj* a fancy feel, there's pleasing
> photography and spunky choreography on display, but AR Rahman's soundtrack
> throws up only three good tracks which is a shame considering the film's
> designed as a musical.
>
> *Yuvvraaj* doesn't quite hit the right note because it's an archaic drama
> that feels too tired. Barring a handful of vintage Subhash Ghai moments that
> still work, the film sadly is far from his best work.
>
> I'm going with one out of five for director Subhash Ghai's *Yuvvraaj*, I'd
> much rather watch *Hero* or *Karma*all over again.
>  
>

Re: [arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE

[surya santosh]

i don't think it is shame on our mastero because movie main theme is music 
which means the relation can bond with music and more over you can't expect 
every song to be a relation bond song and more if you the listen the songs 
separately there are awesome 

if you say the movie is to be totally music one then each and every dialogue 
should be also in music even though i did not watch the movie but i can expect 
that movie would be a good one and experimental i feel 

--- On Sat, 22/11/08, kumar0305 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: kumar0305 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 22 November, 2008, 7:56 AM











You all were sending me crape emails, moderator is not posting any 
of my post because I said " Whats wrong with you Rahman". I know moderator  is 
not going to post this one too, but he will read this, I hope. 
Now what are you guys going to do. Being fans don't mean you support every 
thing you idol makes, when its bad try to accept it. 


Masand's Verdict: Yuvvraaj doesn't hit the right note
The dialogue is a mix of clunky lines that make you cringe in embarrassment, 
and a bunch of unintentionally hilarious gems that will make you laugh every 
time you think of the film. Like that priceless scene in which Katrina scolds 
Salman for being an insensitive son to his father: Jo bete ne apne baap ki 
shakal sapne mein bhi na dekhi ho, woh beta nahin, woh hardcore anti-family man 
hai.There was a slim chance the film might not have hurt this bad if the acting 
was any better, but to think the stars of this film were paid crores of rupees 
to put up this show makes you realise that indeed life is unfair. Salman Khan 
does pretty much as he pleases, walking in and out of scenes as if he were at 
home, never mindful of the fact that he's playing a character here and that 
some consistency in performance is expected of him. He just about scrapes 
through the comedy with a few light moments, but completely fails to touch your 
heart in the film's emotional
 scenes.Zayed Khan struggles through even basic scenes in the film, unable to 
alter his expressions in keeping with the film's needs, yelling when he's 
expected to be intense, and looking away in exasperation each time he can't 
come up with a more fitting reaction. A crash course in acting at Ghai's own 
Whistling Woods Film School might not be such a bad idea for Zayed.Katrina Kaif 
looks lovely and makes an earnest attempt in the acting department too -- in a 
film like this, that's plenty effort. Boman Irani hams it up as Katrina's 
doctor dad, and turns in what is sure to be one of his career's most 
embarrassing performances.And then there's Anil Kapoor whose character I had 
difficulty understanding - was he autistic, was he blind, did he have 
arthritis? I never did get it in the end because of the strange mannerisms and 
quirks Anil brought to his performance. And yet, it's the only performance in 
the film where some competence is visible.Ghai spares no
 efforts in giving Yuvvraaj a fancy feel, there's pleasing photography and 
spunky choreography on display, but AR Rahman's soundtrack throws up only three 
good tracks which is a shame considering the film's designed as a 
musical.Yuvvraaj doesn't quite hit the right note because it's an archaic drama 
that feels too tired. Barring a handful of vintage Subhash Ghai moments that 
still work, the film sadly is far from his best work.I'm going with one out of 
five for director Subhash Ghai's Yuvvraaj, I'd much rather 
watch Hero or Karmaall over again.

  




 

















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[arr] Shame on Rahman... IBNLIVE

[kumar0305]

You all were sending me crape emails, moderator is not posting any of my
post because I said " Whats wrong with you Rahman". I know moderator  is
not going to post this one too, but he will read this, I hope.
Now what are you guys going to do. Being fans don't mean you support
every thing you idol makes, when its bad try to accept it.


Masand's Verdict: Yuvvraaj doesn't hit the right note

The dialogue is a mix of clunky lines that make you cringe in
embarrassment, and a bunch of unintentionally hilarious gems that will
make you laugh every time you think of the film. Like that priceless
scene in which Katrina scolds Salman for being an insensitive son to his
father: Jo bete ne apne baap ki shakal sapne mein bhi na dekhi ho, woh
beta nahin, woh hardcore anti-family man hai.

There was a slim chance the film might not have hurt this bad if the
acting was any better, but to think the stars of this film were paid
crores of rupees to put up this show makes you realise that indeed life
is unfair. Salman Khan does pretty much as he pleases, walking in and
out of scenes as if he were at home, never mindful of the fact that he's
playing a character here and that some consistency in performance is
expected of him. He just about scrapes through the comedy with a few
light moments, but completely fails to touch your heart in the film's
emotional scenes.

Zayed Khan struggles through even basic scenes in the film, unable to
alter his expressions in keeping with the film's needs, yelling when
he's expected to be intense, and looking away in exasperation each time
he can't come up with a more fitting reaction. A crash course in acting
at Ghai's own Whistling Woods Film School might not be such a bad idea
for Zayed.

Katrina Kaif looks lovely and makes an earnest attempt in the acting
department too -- in a film like this, that's plenty effort. Boman Irani
hams it up as Katrina's doctor dad, and turns in what is sure to be one
of his career's most embarrassing performances.

And then there's Anil Kapoor whose character I had difficulty
understanding - was he autistic, was he blind, did he have arthritis? I
never did get it in the end because of the strange mannerisms and quirks
Anil brought to his performance. And yet, it's the only performance in
the film where some competence is visible.

Ghai spares no efforts in giving Yuvvraaj a fancy feel, there's pleasing
photography and spunky choreography on display, but AR Rahman's
soundtrack throws up only three good tracks which is a shame considering
the film's designed as a musical.

Yuvvraaj doesn't quite hit the right note because it's an archaic drama
that feels too tired. Barring a handful of vintage Subhash Ghai moments
that still work, the film sadly is far from his best work.

I'm going with one out of five for director Subhash Ghai's Yuvvraaj, I'd
much rather watch Hero or Karmaall over again.