Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[rufuswilliam.A]

man, I got u what u r trying to say... Rythmn pattern (dont mistake it for 
Rythm or Backgroud of song) of the line "Muthu Muthu siripu" and Airtel 
Matches... but its is definitely not a copy or not even a inspiration... 
   
  Let me give you another example... listen to Titan ad music... and "Veetukku 
Veettukku vaasapadi" song from Kizhakku Vaasal... they will have the same kind 
rythmn pattern... Does that mean Ilayaraja copied Rahman ?
   
  I feel it is just a rythm pattern matching and its is just co-incidence.
   
   
   
   
  

up84mouli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi All...

To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right...

There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other
musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions.

One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the
maestro Ilayaraja for the film: "Devadai"

This link has that song...
http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234

There is a chorus line which goes:
"Muthu muthu sirippu..." (2 or 3 lines)

and then...
"Pakkathile neruppaa..." (2 or 3 lines)

Another example: The song "O Bhaavre..." (Daud) is inspired from the
song "O Saathi Re..."

Thanks.
Chandra

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h ||
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Was that a publicity stunt!!??
> 
> Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. 
> so, he might have just used it.
> 
> 
> On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm
attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about.
Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: 
> 
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/
> 
> Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
> 
> Regards,
> Sunil
> 
> 
> On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman
using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe
Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has
triggered so many responses..
> 
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> " The search is more important than the destination "
> 
> - a r rahman -
> 
> 
> -
> Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see
what's on, when.
>



 


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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Siraj K]

Reason for writing such a harsh mail is that few websites are saying ARR
copied this beat & that beat.. And finally they're giving source as "AR
Rahman Yahoo! Fansclub". Its very shocking to hear that. Guyz are here in
the name of "ARR Fans" but not supporting him / appreciating his excellent
work & contribution to Indian Music. (I'm talking about only those few; not
all) I hope & wish this kind of stupid things will never happen again in
this forum.

Cheers,
Siraj


On 8/3/07, Siraj K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Stupid discussion; horrible *Anti-Rahmaniacs*... Why the hell are they
> here? If some of the members of this group accused someother MDs (HJ &
> others) for copying other's tunes, go and attack them separately. Don't
> bring that dispute to this forum.
>
> Its really frustrating to go through this stupid topic. Lot of idiotic
> suggestions & comments are going on.. Kids are talking about music, samples
> & loops. What the hell are the guyz (who accuses ARR) thinking of them? Are
> they great critics of music Grow up, guyz.. Don't make stupid comments
> anymore.
>
> PS: Sorry, if it hurts anybody who accused ARR & his music. If they really
> felt hurted, plz leave this group immediately and leave us in peace.
>
> Cheers,
> Siraj
>
>
>
>  On 8/3/07, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >As I understand it a sample is any bit of music taken from other
> > sources, i.e., you didn't record it yourself. A loop is a piece of
> > music, whether recorded by you or a sample, that is meant to be
> > repeated over and over in a song. A good example of this is a drum
> > beat, but it doesn't have to be. A sample can be a loop or not. A
> > loop can be a sample or not.
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> > Cyril Thomas
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > What is the difference between a sample and a loop?. Any composer
> > over here.Please answer.
> > > regards
> > > Cyril.
> > >
> > > manikandan gangadhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Please put an end to this topic and the irritating
> > > Subjectplease put an
> > > end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya
> > > chaiyandi...shama chaiyu.
> > >
> > > --- Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with
> > > > a program called
> > > > Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While
> > > > I was going
> > > > through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has
> > > > used in songs. The
> > > > piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening
> > > > beats of Thazhuvudu
> > > > from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in
> > > > AE, and a few
> > > > others. While I understand that composers use
> > > > loops, it does
> > > > disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever
> > > > bit of music I
> > > > admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he
> > > > isn't just
> > > > throwing loops together. He composes the vast
> > > > majority of any given
> > > > song and uses the loops creatively.
> > > >
> > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "VijayNarain"
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that
> > > > everyone knows Krishna
> > > > > is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy
> > > > with the attention
> > > > > you got in this group. Next time, try television.
> > > > As for the samples,
> > > > > its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used,
> > > > and will be and
> > > > > should be, and it will never amount to
> > > > plagiarism!!!
> > > > > VIjaynarain R
> > .
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Siraj K]

Stupid discussion; horrible *Anti-Rahmaniacs*... Why the hell are they here?
If some of the members of this group accused someother MDs (HJ & others) for
copying other's tunes, go and attack them separately. Don't bring that
dispute to this forum.

Its really frustrating to go through this stupid topic. Lot of idiotic
suggestions & comments are going on.. Kids are talking about music, samples
& loops. What the hell are the guyz (who accuses ARR) thinking of them? Are
they great critics of music Grow up, guyz.. Don't make stupid comments
anymore.

PS: Sorry, if it hurts anybody who accused ARR & his music. If they really
felt hurted, plz leave this group immediately and leave us in peace.

Cheers,
Siraj



On 8/3/07, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   As I understand it a sample is any bit of music taken from other
> sources, i.e., you didn't record it yourself. A loop is a piece of
> music, whether recorded by you or a sample, that is meant to be
> repeated over and over in a song. A good example of this is a drum
> beat, but it doesn't have to be. A sample can be a loop or not. A
> loop can be a sample or not.
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> Cyril Thomas
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > What is the difference between a sample and a loop?. Any composer
> over here.Please answer.
> > regards
> > Cyril.
> >
> > manikandan gangadhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Please put an end to this topic and the irritating
> > Subjectplease put an
> > end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya
> > chaiyandi...shama chaiyu.
> >
> > --- Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with
> > > a program called
> > > Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While
> > > I was going
> > > through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has
> > > used in songs. The
> > > piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening
> > > beats of Thazhuvudu
> > > from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in
> > > AE, and a few
> > > others. While I understand that composers use
> > > loops, it does
> > > disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever
> > > bit of music I
> > > admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he
> > > isn't just
> > > throwing loops together. He composes the vast
> > > majority of any given
> > > song and uses the loops creatively.
> > >
> > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> "VijayNarain"
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that
> > > everyone knows Krishna
> > > > is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy
> > > with the attention
> > > > you got in this group. Next time, try television.
> > > As for the samples,
> > > > its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used,
> > > and will be and
> > > > should be, and it will never amount to
> > > plagiarism!!!
> > > > VIjaynarain R
> > > >
> .
>
> 
>

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[shahul hameed]

haha the finishing was a good one Karthik..

On 8/2/07, S, Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Airtel tune?Absurd..
> tell me Mr. Brain, why would some one search a song and just use a 10
> second sequence from a song to compose some thing which is now a historic
> tune..I guess people who accuse must some time use their grey matter.
>
> Just see the tempo of the Muththu Muththu sirippu part and the airtel
> tune
>
> Just because some bald fellow comments in aTV program (Baski in Vijay TV),
> do not vomit the same thing here again.
>
> This makes me why , why did IR use this part of the tune (muthu muthu
> sirippu...in a song where the original starting tune is different as it goes
> "deepankal pesum".
>
> Vitta AE la vara "janagana mana" songum, national anthem lendu dhaan copy
> adichadhu nu solveenga.
>
> karthik
>
> 
>
> From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com  on
> behalf of up84mouli
> Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 6:27 PM
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
>
> Hi All...
>
> To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right...
>
> There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other
> musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions.
>
> One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the
> maestro Ilayaraja for the film: "Devadai"
>
> This link has that song...
> http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 <
> http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234>
>
> There is a chorus line which goes:
> "Muthu muthu sirippu..." (2 or 3 lines)
>
> and then...
> "Pakkathile neruppaa..." (2 or 3 lines)
>
> Another example: The song "O Bhaavre..." (Daud) is inspired from the
> song "O Saathi Re..."
>
> Thanks.
> Chandra
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com  arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> , || V i s h w e s h ||
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Was that a publicity stunt!!??
> >
> > Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ok.. that sounds pretty similar..
> > so, he might have just used it.
> >
> >
> > On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm
> attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about.
> Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
> the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section:
> >
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ <
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/>
> >
> > Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sunil
> >
> >
> > On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman
> using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe
> Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has
> triggered so many responses..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > " The search is more important than the destination "
> >
> > - a r rahman -
> >
> >
> > -
> > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see
> what's on, when.
> >
>
>  
>
>

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Ahsan Chowdhury]

guys

yes yes yes gu i m 250 % sure that has lifted songs; he has lifted indian
songs to an intenational level...


p.s: do not get me wrong guys pls try to understand my feeling. i fell
extremely sorry for the guys who claim them selves as  a.r.raman fan but do
not understand his music at all. for years he has given such joys with music
but we so called a.r. rahman fans are talking about such things which is
merely a coinsidence. if u want to know what is song lifting then pls listen
to Ashique(this is the movie tht is coming to my mind) music or some
composition by mr. anu malik or mr. pritam...

i think this matter is like Sachine Tendulkar. For years this legend has
played one after one classic.inngs. but now we everybody  doubt his ability
if he fails one or two inngs.

pls guys stop this nonsense. if you think he has lifted songs and you made
mistake by becoming his fan no one is stopping you to leave this group.

WE HAVE LOT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO TALK ABOUT LIKE HIS NEXT HIT MOVIE
SONGS  OR HIS NEXT INTERNATIONAL VENTURE.
THANKS


On 8/2/07, S, Karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Airtel tune?Absurd..
> tell me Mr. Brain, why would some one search a song and just use a 10
> second sequence from a song to compose some thing which is now a historic
> tune..I guess people who accuse must some time use their grey matter.
>
> Just see the tempo of the Muththu Muththu sirippu part and the airtel
> tune
>
> Just because some bald fellow comments in aTV program (Baski in Vijay TV),
> do not vomit the same thing here again.
>
> This makes me why , why did IR use this part of the tune (muthu muthu
> sirippu...in a song where the original starting tune is different as it goes
> "deepankal pesum".
>
> Vitta AE la vara "janagana mana" songum, national anthem lendu dhaan copy
> adichadhu nu solveenga.
>
> karthik
>
> 
>
> From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com  on
> behalf of up84mouli
> Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 6:27 PM
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
>
> Hi All...
>
> To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right...
>
> There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other
> musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions.
>
> One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the
> maestro Ilayaraja for the film: "Devadai"
>
> This link has that song...
> http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 <
> http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234>
>
> There is a chorus line which goes:
> "Muthu muthu sirippu..." (2 or 3 lines)
>
> and then...
> "Pakkathile neruppaa..." (2 or 3 lines)
>
> Another example: The song "O Bhaavre..." (Daud) is inspired from the
> song "O Saathi Re..."
>
> Thanks.
> Chandra
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com  arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> , || V i s h w e s h ||
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Was that a publicity stunt!!??
> >
> > Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ok.. that sounds pretty similar..
> > so, he might have just used it.
> >
> >
> > On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm
> attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about.
> Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
> the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section:
> >
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ <
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/>
> >
> > Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sunil
> >
> >
> > On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman
> using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe
> Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has
> triggered so many responses..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > " The search is more important than the destination "
> >
> > - a r rahman -
> >
> >
> > -
> > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see
> what's on, when.
> >
>
> 
>
>

RE: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[S, Karthik]

Airtel tune?Absurd..
tell me Mr. Brain, why would some one search a song and just use a 10 second 
sequence from a song to compose some thing which is now a historic tune..I 
guess people who accuse must some time use their grey matter.
 
Just see the tempo of the Muththu Muththu sirippu part and the airtel tune
 
Just because some bald fellow comments in aTV program (Baski in Vijay TV), do 
not vomit the same thing here again.
 
This makes me why , why did IR use this part of the tune (muthu muthu 
sirippu...in a song where the original starting tune is different as it goes 
"deepankal pesum".
 
Vitta AE la vara "janagana mana" songum, national anthem lendu dhaan copy 
adichadhu nu solveenga.
 
karthik



From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com on behalf of up84mouli
Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 6:27 PM
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!



Hi All...

To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right...

There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other
musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions.

One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the
maestro Ilayaraja for the film: "Devadai"

This link has that song...
http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 
 

There is a chorus line which goes:
"Muthu muthu sirippu..." (2 or 3 lines)

and then...
"Pakkathile neruppaa..." (2 or 3 lines)

Another example: The song "O Bhaavre..." (Daud) is inspired from the
song "O Saathi Re..."

Thanks.
Chandra

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com  , 
|| V i s h w e s h ||
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Was that a publicity stunt!!??
> 
> Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. 
> so, he might have just used it.
> 
> 
> On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm
attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about.
Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: 
> 
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ 
>  
> 
> Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
> 
> Regards,
> Sunil
> 
> 
> On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman
using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe
Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has
triggered so many responses..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> " The search is more important than the destination "
> 
> - a r rahman -
> 
> 
> -
> Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see
what's on, when.
>



 
<>

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Gomtesh Upadhye]

Hello Chandra,

I downloaded that song and heard the lines that you have mentioned. Are you
sure you got the right one, cuz i do not see any kind of resemblance there.
Thanks


On 8/1/07, up84mouli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Hi All...
>
> To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right...
>
> There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other
> musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions.
>
> One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the
> maestro Ilayaraja for the film: "Devadai"
>
> This link has that song...
> http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234
>
> There is a chorus line which goes:
> "Muthu muthu sirippu..." (2 or 3 lines)
>
> and then...
> "Pakkathile neruppaa..." (2 or 3 lines)
>
> Another example: The song "O Bhaavre..." (Daud) is inspired from the
> song "O Saathi Re..."
>
> Thanks.
> Chandra
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , || V
> i s h w e s h ||
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Was that a publicity stunt!!??
> >
> > Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ok.. that sounds pretty similar..
> > so, he might have just used it.
> >
> >
> > On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm
> attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about.
> Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
> the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section:
> >
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/
> >
> > Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sunil
> >
> >
> > On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman
> using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe
> Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has
> triggered so many responses..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > " The search is more important than the destination "
> >
> > - a r rahman -
> >
> >
> > -
> > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see
> what's on, when.
> >
>
>  
>



-- 
Regards

Gomtesh V Upadhye
--

Cell : +91 988 675 3639

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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[fani kalyan]

 I Dont Know where this gonna end...pple comin up with new new things, I am 
afraid to open my inbox...Plz guys..for gods sake lets stop this topic

up84mouli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hi All...
 
 To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right...
 
 There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other
 musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions.
 
 One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the
 maestro Ilayaraja for the film: "Devadai"
 
 This link has that song...
 http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234
 
 There is a chorus line which goes:
 "Muthu muthu sirippu..." (2 or 3 lines)
 
 and then...
 "Pakkathile neruppaa..." (2 or 3 lines)
 
 Another example: The song "O Bhaavre..." (Daud) is inspired from the
 song "O Saathi Re..."
 
 Thanks.
 Chandra
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h ||
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Was that a publicity stunt!!??
 > 
 > Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 >   
 > Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. 
 > so, he might have just used it.
 > 
 > 
 >   On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm
 attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about.
 Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
 the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: 
 > 
 > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/
 > 
 > Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
 > 
 > Regards,
 > Sunil
 >   
 > 
 >   On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman
 using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe
 Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has
 triggered so many responses..
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 >   .
 > 
 >  
 >  
 > 
 > 
 >   " The search is more important than the destination "
 > 
 >   - a r rahman -
 > 
 >
 > -
 > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see
 what's on, when.
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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Praba]

Audio Samples Used by ARR:

Rahman is the first person who used a lot of samples in his songs and the
second person is Ranjit Barot. Ranjit used to work with rahman and Ranjit
programmed drums in HUMMA HUMMA. Now everybody is using samples in mumbai
(Salim-Sulaiman, Sandeep Sherodker, jacky, inderjeet sharma, ram sampat &
sandeep chowta) if you guys think that how can sandeep chowta make sound
like rahman? there are samples.

Here are some examples:

1] Shabba Shabba [Daud] with african voices? Those are samples not real
africans voices.

2] Spanish claps in Jumbalika [Thakshak]? Samples again.

3] Chinese vocals in Latka [Hindustani]? Its a chinese sample from the cd
(SPECTRASONICS HEART OF ASIA)

4] Killer drum beats in rangeela songs? Drum samples from the cd (BEST
SERVICE XXL 1500) and its a long list.

5] Final beats of Mukkala Muqabla [Kadhalan] sounds like dr.alban africa.
Samples again.

6] Beats in Mangta Hai Kya [Rangeela]

7] Early bands like Deep Forest and some Euro techno bands used this concept
a lot. Thats why title sound of Thillana Thillana [Muthu] sounds like Deep
forest songs

There are many other samples rahman used in many of his songs. It is not
copying just using a commercially available samples!

Source: Rahman's Blogspot

Prabakar Ramalingam


On 8/1/07, jibandevta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Among ARR's thousands comostions ,let us say that he has used 30
> samplesto the max...What abut remaining compositions?
> Those are his pure 'GENIUS' and 'MASTERWORKS'
>
> nobody is thinking on this line..!!!
>
> so plz put an end to this topic
>
> -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> manikandan gangadhar
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Please put an end to this topic and the irritating
> > Subjectplease put an
> > end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya
> > chaiyandi...shama chaiyu.
> >
> >
> > --- Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with
> > > a program called
> > > Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While
> > > I was going
> > > through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has
> > > used in songs. The
> > > piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening
> > > beats of Thazhuvudu
> > > from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in
> > > AE, and a few
> > > others. While I understand that composers use
> > > loops, it does
> > > disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever
> > > bit of music I
> > > admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he
> > > isn't just
> > > throwing loops together. He composes the vast
> > > majority of any given
> > > song and uses the loops creatively.
> > >
> > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> "VijayNarain"
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that
> > > everyone knows Krishna
> > > > is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy
> > > with the attention
> > > > you got in this group. Next time, try television.
> > > As for the samples,
> > > > its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used,
> > > and will be and
> > > > should be, and it will never amount to
> > > plagiarism!!!
> > > > VIjaynarain R
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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deed, so is your destiny.

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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Cyril Thomas]

Hi
What is the difference between a sample and a loop?. Any composer over 
here.Please answer.
regards
Cyril.

manikandan gangadhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 
 Please put an end to this topic and the irritating
 Subjectplease put an
 end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya
 chaiyandi...shama chaiyu.
 
 --- Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 > I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with
 > a program called
 > Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops.  While
 > I was going
 > through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has
 > used in songs.  The
 > piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening
 > beats of Thazhuvudu
 > from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in
 > AE, and a few
 > others.  While I understand that composers use
 > loops, it does
 > disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever
 > bit of music I
 > admired is a sample.  At least ARR is clever and he
 > isn't just
 > throwing loops together.  He composes the vast
 > majority of any given
 > song and uses the loops creatively.
 > 
 > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "VijayNarain"
 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > wrote:
 > >
 > > I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that
 > everyone knows Krishna
 > > is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy
 > with the attention
 > > you got in this group. Next time, try television.
 > As for the samples,
 > > its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used,
 > and will be and
 > > should be, and it will never amount to
 > plagiarism!!!
 > > VIjaynarain R
 > >
 > 
 > 
 > 
 
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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Hari N Iyer]

Listen to the first 4 minutes of the video for a legal stand point on
plagiarism vs inspiration.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrq9zB43DWo



--- Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> > I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with
> > a program called
> > Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While
> > I was going
> > through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has
> > used in songs. The
> > piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening
> > beats of Thazhuvudu
> > from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in
> > AE, and a few
> > others. While I understand that composers use
> > loops, it does
> > disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever
> > bit of music I
> > admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he
> > isn't just
> > throwing loops together. He composes the vast
> > majority of any given
> > song and uses the loops creatively.
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> "VijayNarain"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that
> > everyone knows Krishna
> > > is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy
> > with the attention
> > > you got in this group. Next time, try television.
> > As for the samples,
> > > its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used,
> > and will be and
> > > should be, and it will never amount to
> > plagiarism!!!
> > > VIjaynarain R
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> __
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> FareChase.
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>



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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[manikandan gangadhar]

Please put an end to this topic and the irritating
Subjectplease put an
end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya
chaiyandi...shama chaiyu.


--- Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with
> a program called
> Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops.  While
> I was going
> through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has
> used in songs.  The
> piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening
> beats of Thazhuvudu
> from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in
> AE, and a few
> others.  While I understand that composers use
> loops, it does
> disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever
> bit of music I
> admired is a sample.  At least ARR is clever and he
> isn't just
> throwing loops together.  He composes the vast
> majority of any given
> song and uses the loops creatively.
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "VijayNarain"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that
> everyone knows Krishna
> > is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy
> with the attention
> > you got in this group. Next time, try television.
> As for the samples,
> > its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used,
> and will be and
> > should be, and it will never amount to
> plagiarism!!!
> > VIjaynarain R
> >
> 
> 
> 



   

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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Siraj K]

Godi..

What're you trying to say here? HJ is better than ARR. HJ's music is better
than ARR's. Is is so You just added "BOSS" in front of all your
"allegations / complaints". The way you explained looks like this. You're
praising ARR but actually you're accusing him. I don't know how to put it
right in English. But in Tamil, we've onething in our grammer which is
"Vanja Pugalchi Ani". It means that you'll scold the person as if you're
praising and vice-versa. You did the same here. Try 2 grow up, dude...

See, there're many guyz entered this forum. Good 2 have constructive
arguments about ARR's music. But this case is not at all valid to be
discussed. These samples are meant to be used. If these samples are not
used, how come the person who sells this will survive? Commercially, there
is nothing wrong in using samples. They'll not be treated as lift. Try to
grow up, dudes...

Plz put an end to this stupid topic.

Cheers,
Siraj
On 7/31/07, godi_smile1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> AS A SINCERE FAN OF THE MUSIOCAL GENIUS, IAM EMBARRASED.
>
> guys, why are you all being sarcastic and arrogant towards
> the person who said that munbe vaa is a lift.
>
> lot of people praise our boss for his nature and character.
> people cry when they get to see him. but i think as ar rahman's
> fans, we let him down. we never agree defeat . do we???
>
> we are jealous of harris if he comes out with something good. if
> our boss's songs sound similar to any other we say its a co-
> incidence. there are a lot of sound which is similar to european
> music, like rangeela...kadalan etc. the flute piece of ennavle is a
> lift and our boss himself agreed in a interveiw. so its not co-
> incidence when our boss does and copy when harris jayaraj does.
> grow up guys.
>
> really, iam so proud of what our boss is achiving.
> if we are his fans, we have to follow his nature too, not just his
> work. the people and career he has created, all the life he has
> changed through chaity. etc.
>
> long live boss. love you to bit..
> .
>
> 
>

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[PRATAP KRISHNAN]

I THINK IT'S ONLY THAT THE INSTRUMENT USED IS SIMILAR TO THE 1 MUNBE VAA. THE 
TUNE IS DIFF! MANY SONGS SOUND SIMILAR TO OTHERS BCOZ THE SAME INSTRUMENTS 
USED. SO THINK PROPERLY! A.R. RAHMAN NEVER COPIED, NEVER COPIES AND NEVER WILL 
COPY ANY MUSIC!!! IT'S 100% HIS OWN COMPOSITION! SO STOP COMMENTING N FORGET 
ABOUT THIS. LET'S ALL JUST IGNORE THIS TOPIC 4 GOOD!

Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I'm 
attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a 
listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, 
I've copied the same to the files section:

 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/

Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".

Regards,
Sunil


On 7/30/07, shahul hameed  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman 
using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa is 
a   complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has triggered so many 
responses..


On 7/30/07, Krishna None <  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   

 Are you guys stupid or what???
 Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these 
samplea???
When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???  
 When did I said that nobody may use samples?
When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?  
  
 guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't 
wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
 Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
  
 I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are 
beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. 
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his 
music arts."
 Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the 
files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.  
 I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using 
samples READ MY E-MAIL  
 Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do 
then I'm in violation wih these rights!  
 I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum 
Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is 
called: Hip Harp. 
 See for yourself.
 These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're 
own.
 Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
 A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!!  
  
 Krishna
 





  
---------
 From: Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
To:  arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! 
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)

 I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the "Theen 
taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, 
would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true 
gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. 

 - Original Message 
From: Kunal Rajan <  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM 
Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! 

  
 People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their 
music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without 
samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ???  
Kunal. 

 
 
 
 Posted by: "chup_ssshhh"   chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com   chup_ssshhh  Sun Jul 29, 
2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),

  Hi guys and girls,

Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
  Drum Loops and Samples.

I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
Munbe Vaa!!!

I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but 
played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!

I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link 
where i can upload these files.

Warning : DO  NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!

I ca

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[fani kalyan]

The resembance is 1/10 of a second, and u want us to accept parthi??

mmparthi2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  yes 
the first part of Munbe Vaa sounds similar to the loop or sample
 or what ever u call it...comon guys accept it..im a die hard rahman
 fan...but this is so obvious to deny..
 
 
 
   

   
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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[|| V i s h w e s h ||]

Was that a publicity stunt!!??

Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  
Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. 
so, he might have just used it.


  On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I'm attaching 
what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and 
judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied 
the same to the files section: 

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/

Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".

Regards,
Sunil
  

  On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually Mr 
Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what 
was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a 
sample!" I guess this is what has triggered so many responses..













  .

 
 


  " The search is more important than the destination "

  - a r rahman -

   
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Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, 
when. 

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Shreyas Bhargav]

Hey guys,

Went through all the discussion, I am technologist and as far as i know we use 
a lot of softwares for simulations and results and a few inbuilt codes for 
result. But we are never reported for plagiarism since it is accepted in the 
industry that ppl do use the same codes for simulation and results. So i guess 
it shud be the same in every industry. 

Cheers

Shreyas

Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:  
I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. 
Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the 
attachment, I've copied the same to the files section:

http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ arrahmanfans/ files/

Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2. mp3".

Regards,
Sunil

  On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:Actually 
Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, 
what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift 
of a sample!" I guess this is what has triggered so many responses..


  On 7/30/07, Krishna None < chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com> wrote:  
Are you guys stupid or what???
  Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these 
samplea???
When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? 
  When did I said that nobody may use samples?
When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? 
   
  guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't 
wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
  Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
   
  I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are 
beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. 
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his 
music arts."
  Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the 
files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
 
  I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman 
using samples READ MY E-MAIL 
  Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do 
then I'm in violation wih these rights! 
  I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum 
Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is 
called: Hip Harp. 
  See for yourself.
  These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for 
you're own.
  Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
  A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! 
   
  Krishna
  




  
  From: Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Reply-To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! 
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)

I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the "Theen 
taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, 
would you
 actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would 
be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. 

  - Original Message 
From: Kunal Rajan < [EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM 
Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! 


  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their 
music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without 
samples and loops. When
 it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? 
Kunal. 

  
  
  
  Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com   chup_ssshhh   Sun Jul 29, 
2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),

Hi guys and girls,

Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
Drum Loops and Samples.

I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
Munbe Vaa!!!

I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but 
played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!

I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link 
where i can upload these files.

Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!

I can
 say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or
soun

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!.....then y wer u shocked!!!!

[shiraz shira]

please upload that sample again...please

- Original Message 
From: Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:44:46 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!.then 
y wer u shocked

  it will be nice if you can avoid using words like 
dumb, stupid etcetera when talking to the folks around here.  It just ain't 
polite. 

if you want to prove something, i suggest you do it,  rather than talking about 
it and getting emotional.   

 you don't really have to violate any legalities if you are just uploading an 
edited version with low bit-rate.  I, for myself can't buy these samples and 
don't even know where to find them... so, looking forward to your samples . 

cheers





 On 7/30/07, Krishna None < chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com> wrote:
 Are you guys stupid or what???
 Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these 
samplea???
When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???  
 When did I said that nobody may use samples?
When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?  
  
 guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't 
wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
 Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
  
 I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are 
beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. 
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his 
music arts."
 Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the 
files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.  
 I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using 
samples READ MY E-MAIL  
 Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do 
then I'm in violation wih these rights!  
 I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum 
Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is 
called: Hip Harp. 
 See for yourself.
 These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're 
own.
 Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
 A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!!  
  
 Krishna
 




   From: Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
Reply-To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
To:  arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! 
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)

 I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the "Theen 
taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, 
would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true 
gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. 

 - Original Message 
From: Kunal Rajan <  [EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM 
Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! 

   People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in 
their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked 
without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it 
???  
Kunal. 

 
 
 
 Posted by: "chup_ssshhh"   chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com   chup_ssshhh  Sun Jul 29, 
2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),

  Hi guys and girls,

Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
  Drum Loops and Samples.

I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
Munbe Vaa!!!

I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but 
played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!

I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link 
where i can upload these files.

Warning : DO  NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!

I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. 
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his 
music arts.

Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you
are fooling yourself and others. First listen to th

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Anish]

heard this file... ;) not sure abt munbe vaa..but i can tell u there is a
malayalam song from the movie symphony - Chithramanikaattil...
the starting bit of that song is the ditto copy of this file...sounds
good..so I have no worries!!

On 31/07/07, Roshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Ok.. that sounds pretty similar..
> so, he might have just used it.
>
>
> On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >   I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking
> > about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
> > the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section:
> >
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/
> >
> > Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sunil
> >
> >
> > On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >   Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against
> > > Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe
> > > Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has
> > > triggered so many responses..
> > >
> > > On 7/30/07, Krishna None < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Are you guys stupid or what???
> > > >
> > > > Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to
> > > > use these samplea???
> > > > When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these
> > > > samples???
> > > >
> > > > When did I said that nobody may use samples?
> > > > When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
> > > > When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail,
> > > > i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
> > > >
> > > > Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter
> > > > they are beats or
> > > > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> > > > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> > > > music arts."
> > > >
> > > > Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not
> > > > upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A.
> > > > Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL
> > > >
> > > > Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files.
> > > > If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights!
> > > >
> > > > I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip
> > > > Hop Drum Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe 
> > > > Munbe
> > > > Vaa is called: Hip Harp.
> > > >
> > > > See for yourself.
> > > >
> > > > These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them
> > > > for you're own.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
> > > >
> > > > A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR
> > > > MUSIC)!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Krishna
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  --
> > > > From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > To: * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a
> > > > sample! *
> > > > Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)*
> > > >
> > > >  I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the
> > > > "Theen taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody 
> > > > else
> > > > used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats /
> > > > notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just 
> > > > good
> > > > but grea

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!.....then y wer u shocked!!!!

[Roshan]

it will be nice if you can avoid using words like dumb, stupid etcetera when
talking to the folks around here.  It just ain't polite.

if you want to prove something, i suggest you do it,  rather than talking
about it and getting emotional.

 you don't really have to violate any legalities if you are just uploading
an edited version with low bit-rate.  I, for myself can't buy these samples
and don't even know where to find them... so, looking forward to your
samples .

cheers




On 7/30/07, Krishna None <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Are you guys stupid or what???
> >
> > Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use
> > these samplea???
> > When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???
> >
> > When did I said that nobody may use samples?
> > When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
> > When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
> >
> >
> >
> > guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i
> > didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
> >
> > Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
> >
> >
> >
> > I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter
> > they are beats or
> > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> > music arts."
> >
> > Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload
> > the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
> >
> > I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman
> > using samples READ MY E-MAIL
> >
> > Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If
> > I do then I'm in violation wih these rights!
> >
> > I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop
> > Drum Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa
> > is called: Hip Harp.
> >
> > See for yourself.
> >
> > These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for
> > you're own.
> >
> > Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
> >
> > A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR
> > MUSIC)!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Krishna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> > From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
> > *
> > Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)*
> >
> >  I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the
> > "Theen taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else
> > used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats /
> > notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good
> > but great.
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Kunal Rajan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
> > Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
> >
> >  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in
> > their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked
> > without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use
> > it ???
> > Kunal.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21>
> > chup_ssshhh <http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh> Sun Jul 29, 2007
> > 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),
> >
> > Hi guys and girls,
> >
> > Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
> > I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
> > Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
> > Drum Loops and Samples.
> >
> > I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
> > heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
> > Munbe Vaa!!!
> >
> > I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but
> > played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
> > th

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Roshan]

Ok.. that sounds pretty similar..
so, he might have just used it.


On 7/31/07, Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking
> about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
> the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section:
>
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/
>
> Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
>
> Regards,
> Sunil
>
>
> On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman
> > using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa
> > is a complete lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has triggered so
> > many responses..
> >
> > On 7/30/07, Krishna None < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >Are you guys stupid or what???
> > >
> > > Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to
> > > use these samplea???
> > > When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???
> > >
> > > When did I said that nobody may use samples?
> > > When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
> > > When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i
> > > didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
> > >
> > > Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter
> > > they are beats or
> > > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> > > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> > > music arts."
> > >
> > > Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload
> > > the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
> > >
> > > I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A.
> > > Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL
> > >
> > > Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files.
> > > If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights!
> > >
> > > I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop
> > > Drum Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa
> > > is called: Hip Harp.
> > >
> > > See for yourself.
> > >
> > > These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them
> > > for you're own.
> > >
> > > Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
> > >
> > > A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR
> > > MUSIC)!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Krishna
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --
> > > From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a
> > > sample! *
> > > Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)*
> > >
> > >  I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the
> > > "Theen taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else
> > > used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats /
> > > notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just 
> > > good
> > > but great.
> > >
> > > - Original Message 
> > > From: Kunal Rajan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
> > > Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
> > >
> > >  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use
> > > in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has
> > > worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... 
> > > why
> > > not use it ???
> > > Kunal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+i

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Muktak Kanjilal]

heard the sample. This cannot be said as a lift. the song sounds very 
differernt from the sample... I mean the starting is a bit similar to this 
one but you cant tell this as a lift,.. no never

Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I'm attaching what MIGHT be the 
sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for 
yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same 
to the files section:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/

Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".

Regards,
Sunil

  On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Actually Mr 
Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what 
was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a 
sample!" I guess this is what has triggered so many responses..


  On 7/30/07, Krishna None < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
Are you guys stupid or what???
  Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these 
samplea???
When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? 
  When did I said that nobody may use samples?
When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? 
   
  guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't 
wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
  Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
   
  I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are 
beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. 
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his 
music arts."
  Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the 
files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. 
  I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman 
using samples READ MY E-MAIL 
  Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do 
then I'm in violation wih these rights! 
  I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum 
Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is 
called: Hip Harp. 
  See for yourself.
  These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for 
you're own.
  Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
  A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! 
   
  Krishna
  




  

-
  From: Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! 
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)

I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the "Theen 
taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, 
would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true 
gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. 

  - Original Message 
From: Kunal Rajan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM 
Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! 


  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their 
music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without 
samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? 
Kunal. 

  
  
  
  Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com   chup_ssshhh   Sun Jul 29, 
2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),

Hi guys and girls,

Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
Drum Loops and Samples.

I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
Munbe Vaa!!!

I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but 
played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!

I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link 
where i can upload these files.

Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!

I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. 
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his 
music arts.

Do not re

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Aaditya\(Addy\) *COOL*]

Hi Thulasi Ram,
 I think you are right ,let us not waste time in 
discussing about that person . Talk only positive things about Rahman . Please 
dont waste time in discussing  the topic "Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of 
a sample" .
   
   God knows what was his intention in sending that e-mail.

   
-
 Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[shahul hameed]

Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using
de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa
is a complete
lift of a sample!" I guess this is what has triggered so many responses..

On 7/30/07, Krishna None <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Are you guys stupid or what???
>
> Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use
> these samplea???
> When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???
>
> When did I said that nobody may use samples?
> When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
> When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
>
>
>
> guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i
> didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
>
> Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
>
>
>
> I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they
> are beats or
> sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> music arts."
>
> Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the
> files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
>
> I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman
> using samples READ MY E-MAIL
>
> Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I
> do then I'm in violation wih these rights!
>
> I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum
> Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is
> called: Hip Harp.
>
> See for yourself.
>
> These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for
> you're own.
>
> Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
>
> A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR
> MUSIC)!!!
>
>
>
> Krishna
>
>
>
>
>  --
> From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!*
> Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)*
>
>  I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the "Theen
> taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it,
> would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The
> true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great.
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Kunal Rajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
> Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
>
>  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in
> their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked
> without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use
> it ???
> Kunal.
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21>
> chup_ssshhh <http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh> Sun Jul 29, 2007
> 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),
>
> Hi guys and girls,
>
> Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
> I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
> Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
> Drum Loops and Samples.
>
> I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
> heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
> Munbe Vaa!!!
>
> I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but
> played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
> the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
> A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!
>
> I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
> where i can upload these files.
>
> Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
> MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!
>
> I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or
> sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> music arts.
>
> Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you
> are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then
> give you

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Thulasi Ram]

hey siraj.. that guy is in the group as a silent user and he has mailed to
this group after finding 'so called' sample similarity. he should have heard
munbae vaa before and he should have liked the song but he did not feel to
mail about the beauty of the song. now he is jumping out saying he has found
a similarity.. why should we care about someone who is not ready to share
the proof with us?? may be he might have heard the similarity
in his dreams.. what say???!!!

lets encourage our group members who discuss ALL aspects +ve aspects and -ve
aspects (if any)... obviously, we have to encourage those members who share
+ve aspects of ARR and lets have brickbats to those who pop-up in our group
just to share some irrelevant news... the example u have given in ur mail
is very apt why his news is irrelevant..


On 7/30/07, Siraj K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hey Krishna,
>
> This is stated in your first mail
> "I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
> where i can upload these files."
>
> In your second mail,
> "Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I
> do then I'm in violation wih these rights!"
>
> See, there is a conflicts in your own statements. If you're really true,
> first share it and talk about it. We, as Music Listeners & Lovers, are not
> afford to buy those CDs to cross check. Even, if its used by ARR, there is
> officially nothing about it. Those samples are made for that purpose only.
>
> Mind before you post such things.
>
> Cheers,
> Siraj
>
>
> On 7/30/07, Krishna None <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Are you guys stupid or what???
> >
> > Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use
> > these samplea???
> > When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???
> >
> > When did I said that nobody may use samples?
> > When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
> > When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
> >
> >
> >
> > guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i
> > didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
> >
> > Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
> >
> >
> >
> > I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter
> > they are beats or
> > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> > music arts."
> >
> > Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload
> > the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
> >
> > I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman
> > using samples READ MY E-MAIL
> >
> > Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If
> > I do then I'm in violation wih these rights!
> >
> > I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop
> > Drum Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa
> > is called: Hip Harp.
> >
> > See for yourself.
> >
> > These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for
> > you're own.
> >
> > Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
> >
> > A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR
> > MUSIC)!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Krishna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> > From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!*
> > Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)*
> >
> >  I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the
> > "Theen taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else
> > used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats /
> > notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good
> > but great.
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Kunal Rajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
> > Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
> >
> >  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in
> > their music. I dont think there is any composer in the w

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!.....then y wer u shocked!!!!

[shahi]

hey krishna

"I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but
played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!"

Then y the hell wer u shocked to see that rahman has used a sample in his
song if u already knw that every other MD u knw is using the samples.the
way u presented the mail was something like rahman did a big sin in using
that sample.just shw that mail to someone else and they wud say "rahman
is a copy catand bla bla"...Now may i ask u sir.wat was ur so called
intention in sending that mail?.



On 7/30/07, Krishna None <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Are you guys stupid or what???
>
> Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use
> these samplea???
> When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???
>
> When did I said that nobody may use samples?
> When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
> When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
>
>
>
> guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i
> didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
>
> Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
>
>
>
> I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they
> are beats or
> sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> music arts."
>
> Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the
> files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
>
> I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman
> using samples READ MY E-MAIL
>
> Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I
> do then I'm in violation wih these rights!
>
> I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum
> Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is
> called: Hip Harp.
>
> See for yourself.
>
> These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for
> you're own.
>
> Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
>
> A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR
> MUSIC)!!!
>
>
>
> Krishna
>
>
>
>
>  --
> From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!*
> Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)*
>
>  I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the "Theen
> taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it,
> would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The
> true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great.
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Kunal Rajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
> Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
>
>  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in
> their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked
> without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use
> it ???
> Kunal.
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21>
> chup_ssshhh <http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh> Sun Jul 29, 2007
> 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),
>
> Hi guys and girls,
>
> Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
> I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
> Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
> Drum Loops and Samples.
>
> I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
> heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
> Munbe Vaa!!!
>
> I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but
> played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
> the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
> A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!
>
> I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
> where i can upload these files.
>
> Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES,

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Siraj K]

Hey Krishna,

This is stated in your first mail
"I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
where i can upload these files."

In your second mail,
"Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I
do then I'm in violation wih these rights!"

See, there is a conflicts in your own statements. If you're really true,
first share it and talk about it. We, as Music Listeners & Lovers, are not
afford to buy those CDs to cross check. Even, if its used by ARR, there is
officially nothing about it. Those samples are made for that purpose only.

Mind before you post such things.

Cheers,
Siraj


On 7/30/07, Krishna None <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Are you guys stupid or what???
>
> Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use
> these samplea???
> When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???
>
> When did I said that nobody may use samples?
> When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
> When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
>
>
>
> guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i
> didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
>
> Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying
>
>
>
> I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they
> are beats or
> sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> music arts."
>
> Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the
> files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
>
> I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman
> using samples READ MY E-MAIL
>
> Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I
> do then I'm in violation wih these rights!
>
> I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum
> Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is
> called: Hip Harp.
>
> See for yourself.
>
> These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for
> you're own.
>
> Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
>
> A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR
> MUSIC)!!!
>
>
>
> Krishna
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
> From: *Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!*
> Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)*
>
>  I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the "Theen
> taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it,
> would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The
> true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great.
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Kunal Rajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
> Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
>
>  People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in
> their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked
> without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use
> it ???
> Kunal.
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample!>
> chup_ssshhh <http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh> Sun Jul 29, 2007
> 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),
>
> Hi guys and girls,
>
> Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
> I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
> Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
> Drum Loops and Samples.
>
> I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
> heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
> Munbe Vaa!!!
>
> I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but
> played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
> the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
> A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!
>
> I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
> where i can upload these files.
>
> Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
> MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "

Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Ashwin Kamath]

I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the "Theen taal" 
(tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you 
actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would 
be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great.

- Original Message 
From: Kunal Rajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!









  




People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their 
music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without 
samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ???

Kunal. 




Posted by:  "chup_ssshhh"  

  chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com  
   

  chup_ssshhh 

  

  Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am(PST)


A silent user here (but also a composer),



Hi guys and girls,



Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse

I'm not the only one who uses these samples.

Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop

Drum Loops and Samples.



I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I

heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe

Munbe Vaa!!!



I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but

played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even

the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by

A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!



I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link

where i can upload these files.



Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE

MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!



I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or

sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.

Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his 

music arts.



Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you

are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then

give you're opinion.



Sorry for my bad English:P



Krishna



  
















   

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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[ahamed kishor]

Hey Guy
   
  Can u also prove us dat the sample was created before Munbe Vaa???

Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi Krishna,

You state that you are a composer and that you "use" the samples. 
But you state that ARR lifted & copied the samples.In tat case are 
your songs lifted and copied songs? Wait read thru my post fully and 
then decide to blast me later.

Now what i am trying to say is that you should just think before 
you post bro.How could ARR copy or lift a sample when that sample is 
being sold as a royalty free sample in which its main purpose is to 
be used in songs,TV, films or where ever musically needed. Maybe you 
didnt know how to put it.Just say ARR "used" so n so samples.
Recently i read an article in behindwoods where they stated copied 
stuffs from composers,while other composers had directly lifted and 
copied from other songs(the tune) Our man ARR is also in the list 
but for "copyin" samples!! Its about time we as musicians and being 
fans of ARR explain this to others.Rather then just calling he 
copied.It's really very lame.

No offence to you buddy..btw what kinda songs do you compose and 
where r u located at? Am a composer too.Mail me we could talk abt 
music compositions.

Cheers
Raj

-- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "chup_ssshhh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> A silent user here (but also a composer),
> 
> 
> Hi guys and girls,
> 
> Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. 
Ofcourse
> I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
> Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
> Drum Loops and Samples.
> 
> I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
> heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and 
Munbe
> Munbe Vaa!!!
> 
> I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples 
but
> played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! 
Even
> the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used 
by
> A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!
> 
> I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
> where i can upload these files.
> 
> Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES 
ARE
> MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!
> 
> I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or
> sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his 
> music arts.
> 
> Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise 
you
> are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and 
then
> give you're opinion.
> 
> Sorry for my bad English:P
> 
> Krishna
>



 

   
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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!

[Pavan Rao]

@Vijay Narain: LOL!! If music directors can use samples to make their "own
compositions" to "save time", we can have Vijay Narain as the next greatest
music director!! :

No hard feelings ;)


On 7/29/07, VijayNarain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Krishna,
>
> I suppose you understand samples and sound libraries are "sold" not
> for the public's general listening, but for music composers and
> producers to USE in their composition. And that the use of such
> commercially available samples does not amount to plagiarism.
>
> The very reason why they are sold is so that these people can buy
> them. Its the same case with vst plugins and other music related
> software. They are MADE so that they CAN be used. So there is
> absolutely NO harm in using samples, be it by ARR or anyone else for
> that reason. Plus, saves time!!
>
> Note: If you still insist this is plagiarism, then all music in the
> world is plagiarised, since invariably one of the twleve notes in
> music has already been used in some other song :P !!!
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> "chup_ssshhh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > A silent user here (but also a composer),
> >
> >
> > Hi guys and girls,
> >
> > Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
> > I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
> > Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
> > Drum Loops and Samples.
> >
> > I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
> > heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
> > Munbe Vaa!!!
> >
> > I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but
> > played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
> > the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
> > A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!
> >
> > I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
> > where i can upload these files.
> >
> > Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
> > MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!
> >
> > I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or
> > sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
> > Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
> > music arts.
> >
> > Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you
> > are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then
> > give you're opinion.
> >
> > Sorry for my bad English:P
> >
> > Krishna
> >
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