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Yeah Amith, I remember the Chitrahaar Episode where he mentioned
about 'Tezaab' song and the other from 'Gambler' (Choodi nahi mera
dil hai, SDBurman). I was quite surprised and elated to hear the
mention of 'Tezaab' song from Rahman coz its one of my favourite
too...! LP's music has been quite interesting(discounting the lifts
of course!)considering the changes thru 70's, 80's n 90's!
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Amith
Chandhran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I remember when AR had appeared in Chitrahaar 2 times, around 10-12
years
back, he had mentioned LP as his favorite MDs. He also quoted some
of their
songs as his favorites. He specially mentioned *Kehdo Ki Tum Meri
Ho Warna,
Jeena Nahin Mujhe Hain Marna *from *Tezaab (1988) *as his favorite
song and
it was shown in the program*.
*I also remember reading Laxmikant's interview somewhere.. In 1995-
1996.. He
said he was glad that someone like AR, even after reaching the sky
hights,
has respect for senior composers in the industry. Also he told that
whenever
AR used to come to Mumbai, he used to give them (LP) a call..*
*Once in an interview, AR said he considers 'Ilaiyaraja' (from the
South)
and 'probably LP' (from the north) to be his Gurus!*
*How can you forget this all guys! ;-)
By the way, a trivia: Name out the SD Burman song which AR quoted
as his
another favorite in the same Chitrahar program!
*
-
*On Dec 24, 2007 9:44 PM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vijay ! you cant be that ignorant either! They have been great
composers
, with movies
like hum, saudagar, Tehzaab, maine pyar kiya to name a few.
Ofocurse with
their share of plagiarism too . :)
On 12/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Who are they ??! :-)
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Author: : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
avinashdc21%40yahoo.com
Date: 24th December 2007 06:41
Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr.
Laxmikanth is no
more now.
Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open
minded
approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that
major
change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't
agree with
the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is
putting
more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what
bringing them
the success and emotional bonding with listeners.
The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those
of 60s and
70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed.
Nowadays
the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is
temporary as
music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose
control
over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the
director.
. . . .
Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you
think the
Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best
tamil films
are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a
hypothetical
thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of
Rahman's music.
But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did
different
things as well as things differently.
A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas
in our
times live orchestra used to perform for the recording.
Just my opinions...
regards,
Avinash
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
vijay.mohan.iyer@ wrote:
Whos he -:)
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Author: Anil Nair rhythmcalls@
Date: 24th December 2007 03:08
He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot
.. Rahman
included ..(not that it matters )
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm
-A
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Who are they ??! :-) Reply Header Subject:Re: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24th December 2007 06:41 Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr. Laxmikanth is no more now. Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open minded approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that major change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't agree with the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is putting more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what bringing them the success and emotional bonding with listeners. The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those of 60s and 70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed. Nowadays the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is temporary as music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose control over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the director. . . . . Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you think the Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best tamil films are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a hypothetical thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of Rahman's music. But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did different things as well as things differently. A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas in our times live orchestra used to perform for the recording. Just my opinions... regards, Avinash --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whos he -:) Reply Header Subject: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24th December 2007 03:08 He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman included ..(not that it matters ) http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm -A
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Vijay ! you cant be that ignorant either! They have been great composers , with movies like hum, saudagar, Tehzaab, maine pyar kiya to name a few. Ofocurse with their share of plagiarism too . :) On 12/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who are they ??! :-) Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] avinashdc21%40yahoo.com Date: 24th December 2007 06:41 Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr. Laxmikanth is no more now. Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open minded approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that major change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't agree with the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is putting more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what bringing them the success and emotional bonding with listeners. The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those of 60s and 70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed. Nowadays the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is temporary as music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose control over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the director. . . . . Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you think the Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best tamil films are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a hypothetical thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of Rahman's music. But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did different things as well as things differently. A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas in our times live orchestra used to perform for the recording. Just my opinions... regards, Avinash --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whos he -:) Reply Header Subject: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24th December 2007 03:08 He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman included ..(not that it matters ) http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm -A
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Why 30 years??!!
We dont want anyone to say anything to A R R TODAY !!
Today on Christmas day, i quote the lord ,Please forgive him for he does
not know what he's saying
Thanks
Vijay
On Dec 24, 2007 8:56 AM, Doraiswamy S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever Pyarelal might say, it doesnt affect the fact that LP is one of
the most successful music directors in hindi film industry. May be the most
successful. Before you guys get upset let me tell you why.
They started their career in 1963 with Parasmani. Their first block
buster was Dosti 1964. They had blockbuster songs every year all the way
till Klahnayak. (1993). Which means 30 years of hits. They did compose after
Khalnayak but never had a big hit. Composing hits for 30 years is not a
small thing. The taste changed so much in that period and they were able to
adapt. But now he has grown too old to adapt. This will happen with
everybody. Sad human truth.
For people who have loved Hindi music, they can never forget Dosti,
Khilona, Amar Akbar Antony, Ek Duje Ke Liye, Bobby, Satyam Shivam Sundaram,
Ghulami, Utsav, Hero, Roti, Shor, Kranti etc.
Lets not insult them. .. I am sure 30 years down the line you wouldnt want
someone to say something similiar about ARR.
On Dec 24, 2007 4:14 PM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vijay ! you cant be that ignorant either! They have been great
composers , with movies
like hum, saudagar, Tehzaab, maine pyar kiya to name a few. Ofocurse
with their share of plagiarism too . :)
On 12/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Who are they ??! :-)
Reply Header
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...
Author: : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED]avinashdc21%40yahoo.com
Date: 24th December 2007 06:41
Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr. Laxmikanth is
no
more now.
Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open minded
approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that major
change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't agree with
the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is
putting
more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what bringing
them
the success and emotional bonding with listeners.
The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those of 60s
and
70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed.
Nowadays
the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is temporary as
music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose
control
over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the director.
. . . .
Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you think the
Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best tamil
films
are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a hypothetical
thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of Rahman's
music.
But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did different
things as well as things differently.
A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas in our
times live orchestra used to perform for the recording.
Just my opinions...
regards,
Avinash
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whos he -:)
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Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24th December 2007 03:08
He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot ..
Rahman
included ..(not that it matters )
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm
-A
Re: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ...
If this mail was intended for me, then I would like to make things clear
that insulting
was not what was in my mind. But having said that, the fact remains that
they copied
many a times. There is nothing wrong in speaking the truth, right? :)
On Dec 24, 2007 10:26 PM, Doraiswamy S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever Pyarelal might say, it doesnt affect the fact that LP is one of
the most successful music directors in hindi film industry. May be the most
successful. Before you guys get upset let me tell you why.
They started their career in 1963 with Parasmani. Their first block
buster was Dosti 1964. They had blockbuster songs every year all the way
till Klahnayak. (1993). Which means 30 years of hits. They did compose after
Khalnayak but never had a big hit. Composing hits for 30 years is not a
small thing. The taste changed so much in that period and they were able to
adapt. But now he has grown too old to adapt. This will happen with
everybody. Sad human truth.
For people who have loved Hindi music, they can never forget Dosti,
Khilona, Amar Akbar Antony, Ek Duje Ke Liye, Bobby, Satyam Shivam Sundaram,
Ghulami, Utsav, Hero, Roti, Shor, Kranti etc.
Lets not insult them. .. I am sure 30 years down the line you wouldnt want
someone to say something similiar about ARR.
On Dec 24, 2007 4:14 PM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vijay ! you cant be that ignorant either! They have been great
composers , with movies
like hum, saudagar, Tehzaab, maine pyar kiya to name a few. Ofocurse
with their share of plagiarism too . :)
On 12/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Who are they ??! :-)
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...
Author: : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED]avinashdc21%40yahoo.com
Date: 24th December 2007 06:41
Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr. Laxmikanth is
no
more now.
Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open minded
approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that major
change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't agree with
the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is
putting
more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what bringing
them
the success and emotional bonding with listeners.
The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those of 60s
and
70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed.
Nowadays
the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is temporary as
music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose
control
over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the director.
. . . .
Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you think the
Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best tamil
films
are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a hypothetical
thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of Rahman's
music.
But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did different
things as well as things differently.
A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas in our
times live orchestra used to perform for the recording.
Just my opinions...
regards,
Avinash
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whos he -:)
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Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24th December 2007 03:08
He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot ..
Rahman
included ..(not that it matters )
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm
-A
Re: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ...
I remember when AR had appeared in Chitrahaar 2 times, around 10-12 years
back, he had mentioned LP as his favorite MDs. He also quoted some of their
songs as his favorites. He specially mentioned *Kehdo Ki Tum Meri Ho Warna,
Jeena Nahin Mujhe Hain Marna *from *Tezaab (1988) *as his favorite song and
it was shown in the program*.
*I also remember reading Laxmikant's interview somewhere.. In 1995-1996.. He
said he was glad that someone like AR, even after reaching the sky hights,
has respect for senior composers in the industry. Also he told that whenever
AR used to come to Mumbai, he used to give them (LP) a call..*
*Once in an interview, AR said he considers 'Ilaiyaraja' (from the South)
and 'probably LP' (from the north) to be his Gurus!*
*How can you forget this all guys! ;-)
By the way, a trivia: Name out the SD Burman song which AR quoted as his
another favorite in the same Chitrahar program!
*
-
*On Dec 24, 2007 9:44 PM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vijay ! you cant be that ignorant either! They have been great composers
, with movies
like hum, saudagar, Tehzaab, maine pyar kiya to name a few. Ofocurse with
their share of plagiarism too . :)
On 12/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Who are they ??! :-)
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Author: : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] avinashdc21%40yahoo.com
Date: 24th December 2007 06:41
Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr. Laxmikanth is no
more now.
Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open minded
approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that major
change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't agree with
the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is putting
more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what bringing them
the success and emotional bonding with listeners.
The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those of 60s and
70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed. Nowadays
the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is temporary as
music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose control
over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the director.
. . . .
Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you think the
Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best tamil films
are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a hypothetical
thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of Rahman's music.
But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did different
things as well as things differently.
A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas in our
times live orchestra used to perform for the recording.
Just my opinions...
regards,
Avinash
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whos he -:)
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Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24th December 2007 03:08
He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman
included ..(not that it matters )
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm
-A
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Whos he -:) Reply Header Subject:[arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24th December 2007 03:08 He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman included ..(not that it matters ) http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm -A
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Though I am not a big fan of L-P, they have been there and done that. Let him state his opinion. We can politely disagree :) On Dec 24, 2007 2:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whos he -:) Reply Header Subject: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] rhythmcalls%40gmail.com Date: 24th December 2007 03:08 He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman included ..(not that it matters ) http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm -A -- Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ The father who does not teach his son his duties is equally guilty with the son who neglects them. Confucius -
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Well, what does a small room have to do with composing music; in case of A.R.Rahman that Pyarelal is refering to? I compose my music sitting in my cosy little room too! Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman included ..(not that it matters ) http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm -A - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.
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Yeah they also lack the art of copying music because of pressure. Forget a r r, even Himesh is so original. :) On Dec 24, 2007 10:45 AM, Pratap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lack the knowledge of music possessed by their counterparts in the Golden Era of the 60s, i will never agree on this!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whos he -:) Reply Header Subject: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] rhythmcalls%40gmail.com Date: 24th December 2007 03:08 He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman included ..(not that it matters ) http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm -A -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ...
Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr. Laxmikanth is no more now. Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open minded approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that major change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't agree with the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is putting more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what bringing them the success and emotional bonding with listeners. The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those of 60s and 70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed. Nowadays the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is temporary as music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose control over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the director. . . . . Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you think the Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best tamil films are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a hypothetical thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of Rahman's music. But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did different things as well as things differently. A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas in our times live orchestra used to perform for the recording. Just my opinions... regards, Avinash --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whos he -:) Reply Header Subject: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24th December 2007 03:08 He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman included ..(not that it matters ) http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm -A
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Don't bother about these things after 100 years people will remember Rahman's tune... nobody will remember L-P' s name at all. Payarelal is a jealous composer becuase at his time other peers were too good (Naushad/MadanMohan/SD Burman/RDB), again afterwars Rahman is ruling the show This generation doesn't know his name also (as his songs were not that good). Arijit On 24/12/2007, : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vijay, He's one of the Laxmikanth-Pyarelal Duo. Mr. Laxmikanth is no more now. Regarding to his below statement, I think he lacks little open minded approach to today's MDs. I agree with his first sentence that major change in today's music is presentation style. But I don't agree with the second, the main mantra of todays MD's (SEL, VS, Rahman) is putting more emotions and creating mood in the music. That's what bringing them the success and emotional bonding with listeners. *The 'sur' and the melody of Hindi film song is same as those of 60s and 70s but the presentation style and the priorities have changed. Nowadays the emotional bonding of the song with the listener is temporary as music directors give more attention to rhythm and beat and lose control over its melody due to the lack of knowledge, says the director. * . . . . Ha ha.. the below statement is really ridiculous :) Do you think the Grand music in Lagaan, Taal, WOHE, Bose and some of his best tamil films are prepared in small room.?! .. Naa.. that's just a hypothetical thinking, like most of skeptics did during early days of Rahman's music. But frankly saying Rahman is master in both ways. He did different things as well as things differently. *A R Rehman prepares his music sitting in a small room whereas in our times live orchestra used to perform for the recording. * ** Just my opinions... *regards,* *Avinash* --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whos he -:) Reply Header Subject: [arr] Semi-Arr - Pyarelal on current composers and more ... Author: Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24th December 2007 03:08 He doesn't seem to have a great opinion abt the current lot .. Rahman included ..(not that it matters ) http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200712231523.htm -A
