Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)

2006-02-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@~





Hi, nice to see that you've enjoyed my 
raga based review on Theeyil. This group is a heaven of sharing 
thoughts on A.R.Rahman's genius work. He has excelled astonishingly in 
melodic transition or call it the grahabedham in carnatic terms. Also the term 
"Mishraman' suites him well because he strikes the perfect swaras inaccordance 
to emotion excuted by the lyrics.Sure Kumarr I'd like to be helpful, it's 
my pleasure, you can add me on msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 
Thanks .
 
Regards
Keshav

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kumarr 
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:13 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga 
  Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  very true sirthanx for enlightenin...this grp is a place 
  where i can improve my raaga knowledge...after u mentioned abt 
  vakulabharanam..as usual ARR sir's mishramam...his greatest 
  asset...combination of raagas...i cud make it out...can v b in touch...plzz i 
  need some help...am from a musical background familycarnatic...i never had 
  formal traininso if u can help me...online...my pleasurethanx a 
  lott...bye...kumarr..."[EMAIL PROTECTED]@~" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  


Hi I'd thought that I should 
share some info regarding raga vasanti and theeyil
 
Raga Vasanti 
has a basic scale of S R2 G3 P D1 S – S D1 P G3 R2 S. It is a newly 
introduced raga into the classical music sampradaya as there aren't any 
traditional compositions in this raga. It hasn't found a place in most of 
the old treatises either. There is also a doubt about its parent raga, where 
the could be's are the 25th mela Mararanjini, 26th mela Charukesi as u said 
and 27th mela Sarasangi. Theeyil has a very constructive melody which 
requires attentive listening to 
understand its structure. Now let's indulge :
 
The Pallavi pure uses all notes 
denoting raga vasanti.
 
The 1st Caranam
"mazhalayin neer vaanggi 
mazheyea azhuvathu pol
Thaayin yir thanggi thanayan 
azhuvaano?
uyirai thantavalin uyirai 
Kappaana kadanai Theerpaana
Thangam Pole Irunthaval Thaan 
Sarukaipole Anatha Naal
Singampole Iruntha Mahan 
Seviliyaipole Avaana?"
has usage of swaras R1, M1 
and N1 which equates to raga vakulaabharanam of the 14th mela.
 
The 2nd Caranam
"Ore Sollil Ore Ulakam Amma, 
Ulakellam Ore Solum Amma"
 
Still maintaning usage of  raga 
vakulaabaranam. 
 
"Nee Sumantha Pillaiyayi 
Naanirunthen AmmaNaan Sumakkum Pillaiyayi nee aanai 
amma"
 
a beautifull transition 
happens making the raga brighter when the swara D2 (28th mela Raga 
Harikaambhoji occurs) is introduced at amma and its back to the basic 
when D1 is introduced again at the second amma. Fantastic isn't it. 

"Ennakedhum aanathenuna 
unnaku veru pillai unduUnnakethum aanathuna yennaku veru thayirukka 
?"
 
these lines are purely in vasanti as 
in the pallavi
 
"Nenjai ooti 
valarthavalai,kanil madiyayi sumanthavalai 
manil vittu 
viduvana?manathil mattum sumapana?"
 
As in thangam pole in 1st 
caranam
 
3rd Caranam
As in the 1st caranam in raga 
vakulabaranam
 
So there you are, hope i've 
enlighten you.
 
Thanks
Regards
Keshav
 


 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
      Kumarr 
      To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 
  11:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga 
  Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  is vasanthi a raaga derived from charukeshiplzz clarify 
  coz i thought theeyil was charukeshi"[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  

Thanks alot swaps for enlighten us, u've 
always marveled us in these matters. I have one query though, Is 
theeyil composed purely in raag vasanti ?? dunt u think there are shades 
of keeravani. Thanks

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 
  
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 
  7:09 PM
  Subject: [arr] Theeyil...Raga 
  Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  HiiAfter reading several posts abt Theeyil song frm 
  GF abt the raga..yes..its is Carnatic Raga Vasanthi & the 
  Hindustani equivalent is Raga Bhoopkali or Bhoopeshri. It has all 
  shuddha swaras except Dha & it omits Madhyam & Nishad though 
  in some cases it may add a Teevra Madhyam being from the Marwa thaat 
  (Raga Famil

Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)

2006-02-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@~





I am glad indeed that i have enlighten many. Thanks 
for your genuine emarks Ranjith. Theeyil is definately a 'seven stringed 
fiddle'. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ranjith K 
  
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:05 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [arr] Theeyil...Raga 
  Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  
   
  
"Nee Sumantha Pillaiyayi 
Naanirunthen AmmaNaan Sumakkum Pillaiyayi nee aanai 
amma"
 
a beautifull transition 
happens making the raga brighter when the swara D2 (28th mela Raga 
Harikaambhoji occurs) is introduced at amma and its back to the basic 
when D1 is introduced again at the second amma. Fantastic isn't it. 
Really 
fantastic. Loved this part. Thanks for the details. Great song it is. In the 
league of vellai pookkal, only you ..
 
Regards,
Ranjith





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Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)

2006-02-22 Thread Kumarr



very true sirthanx for enlightenin...this grp is a place where i can improve my raaga knowledge...after u mentioned abt vakulabharanam..as usual ARR sir's mishramam...his greatest asset...combination of raagas...i cud make it out...can v b in touch...plzz i need some help...am from a musical background familycarnatic...i never had formal traininso if u can help me...online...my pleasurethanx a lott...bye...kumarr..."[EMAIL PROTECTED]@~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi I'd thought that I should share some info regarding raga vasanti and theeyil     Raga Vasanti has a basic scale of S R2 G3 P D1 S – S D1 P G3 R2
 S. It is a newly introduced raga into the classical music sampradaya as there aren't any traditional compositions in this raga. It hasn't found a place in most of the old treatises either. There is also a doubt about its parent raga, where the could be's are the 25th mela Mararanjini, 26th mela Charukesi as u said and 27th mela Sarasangi. Theeyil has a very constructive melody which requires attentive listening to understand its structure. Now let's indulge :     The Pallavi pure uses all notes denoting raga vasanti.     The 1st Caranam  "mazhalayin neer vaanggi mazheyea azhuvathu pol  Thaayin yir thanggi thanayan azhuvaano?  uyirai thantavalin uyirai Kappaana kadanai Theerpaana  Thangam Pole Irunthaval Thaan Sarukaipole Anatha Naal  Singampole Iruntha Mahan Seviliyaipole Avaana?"  has usage of swaras R1, M1 and N1 which equates to raga vakulaabharanam of the 14th mela.     The 2nd Caranam  "Ore Sollil Ore Ulakam Amma, Ulakellam Ore Solum Amma"     Still maintaning
 usage of  raga vakulaabaranam.      "Nee Sumantha Pillaiyayi Naanirunthen AmmaNaan Sumakkum Pillaiyayi nee aanai amma"     a beautifull transition happens making the raga brighter when the swara D2 (28th mela Raga Harikaambhoji occurs) is introduced at amma and its back to the basic when D1 is introduced again at the second amma. Fantastic isn't it.   "Ennakedhum aanathenuna unnaku veru pillai unduUnnakethum aanathuna yennaku veru thayirukka ?"     these lines are purely in vasanti as in the pallavi    
 "Nenjai ooti valarthavalai,kanil madiyayi sumanthavalai   manil vittu viduvana?manathil mattum sumapana?"     As in thangam pole in 1st caranam     3rd Caranam  As in the 1st caranam in raga vakulabaranam     So there you are, hope i've enlighten you.     Thanks  Regards  Keshav      - Original Message -   From: Kumarr   To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com   Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:06 AM  Subject: Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)  is vasanthi a raaga derived from charukeshiplzz clarify coz i
 thought theeyil was charukeshi"[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Thanks alot swaps for enlighten us, u've always marveled us in these matters. I have one query though, Is theeyil composed purely in raag vasanti ?? dunt u think there are shades of keeravani. Thanks- Original Message -   From: ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~   To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com   Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:09 PM  Subject: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)  HiiAfter reading several posts abt Theeyil song frm GF abt the raga..yes..its is Carnatic Raga Vasanthi & the Hindustani equivalent is Raga Bhoopkali or Bhoopeshri. It has all shuddha swaras except Dha & it omits Madhyam & Nishad though in some cases it may add a Teevra Madhyam being from the Marwa thaat (Raga Family). So its Sa Re Ga Pa Dha(Komal) Sa. ARR's used this raga in Taj Mahal (Adi manjakkizhange), Mudhalvan (Kurukku chiruthavale) & JanaGanaMana album (Hariharan's rendition of Desh ka salam). Theeyil has an exceptional quality of moving ur soul...thats ARR magic!Njoy...Swaps"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@~"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Yeah I guess ur right Arya,Raag Vaasanthi closes atribute Theeyil not pure though, the caranam has presences of other notes.. Being similar to his previous works like 'adi manjakkizhangge' (TAJ MAHAL) and of course Kurrukku Chiruttavalea (MUDHALVAN).- Original Message -   From: Arya   To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com   Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 PM  Subject: Re: [arr] GodFather - Raag Vaasanthi (Theeyil)Monea... ARR- srakka aarayathey anubhavi...      music manasukkula pughundhu yennma chemistry pannudhu ni yennada enna adhukku mark podukira adakivasi ma kannu...      In this world we can judge only ourselves… not others….Especially genius like world famous musicians…      Cheer up   Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  pankaj!! plz dont feel -ve abt innisai song dude i love that song like anything. i feel that it is the best carnatic song that i have heard in recent time. great g

RE: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)

2006-02-22 Thread Ranjith K





 

  "Nee Sumantha Pillaiyayi 
  Naanirunthen AmmaNaan Sumakkum Pillaiyayi nee aanai 
amma"
   
  a beautifull transition happens 
  making the raga brighter when the swara D2 (28th mela Raga Harikaambhoji 
  occurs) is introduced at amma and its back to the basic when D1 is 
  introduced again at the second amma. Fantastic isn't it. Really fantastic. 
  Loved this part. Thanks for the details. Great song it is. In the league of 
  vellai pookkal, only you ...
   
  Regards,
  Ranjith





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Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)

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Hi I'd thought that I should share 
some info regarding raga vasanti and theeyil
 
Raga Vasanti has 
a basic scale of S R2 G3 P D1 S – S D1 P G3 R2 S. It is a newly introduced raga 
into the classical music sampradaya as there aren't any traditional compositions 
in this raga. It hasn't found a place in most of the old treatises either. There 
is also a doubt about its parent raga, where the could be's are the 25th mela 
Mararanjini, 26th mela Charukesi as u said and 27th mela Sarasangi. 
Theeyil has a very constructive melody which requires attentive listening to understand its structure. Now let's 
indulge :
 
The Pallavi pure uses all notes 
denoting raga vasanti.
 
The 1st Caranam
"mazhalayin neer vaanggi mazheyea 
azhuvathu pol
Thaayin yir thanggi thanayan 
azhuvaano?
uyirai thantavalin uyirai Kappaana 
kadanai Theerpaana
Thangam Pole Irunthaval Thaan 
Sarukaipole Anatha Naal
Singampole Iruntha Mahan 
Seviliyaipole Avaana?"
has usage of swaras R1, M1 and 
N1 which equates to raga vakulaabharanam of the 14th mela.
 
The 2nd Caranam
"Ore Sollil Ore Ulakam Amma, 
Ulakellam Ore Solum Amma"
 
Still maintaning usage of  raga 
vakulaabaranam. 
 
"Nee Sumantha Pillaiyayi 
Naanirunthen AmmaNaan Sumakkum Pillaiyayi nee aanai amma"
 
a beautifull transition happens 
making the raga brighter when the swara D2 (28th mela Raga Harikaambhoji 
occurs) is introduced at amma and its back to the basic when D1 is 
introduced again at the second amma. Fantastic isn't it. 

"Ennakedhum aanathenuna unnaku 
veru pillai unduUnnakethum aanathuna yennaku veru thayirukka 
?"
 
these lines are purely in vasanti as in 
the pallavi
 
"Nenjai ooti valarthavalai,kanil 
madiyayi sumanthavalai
manil vittu viduvana?manathil 
mattum sumapana?"
 
As in thangam pole in 1st 
caranam
 
3rd Caranam
As in the 1st caranam in raga 
vakulabaranam
 
So there you are, hope i've 
enlighten you.
 
Thanks
Regards
Keshav
 


 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kumarr 
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:06 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga 
  Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  is vasanthi a raaga derived from charukeshiplzz clarify coz 
  i thought theeyil was charukeshi"[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  

Thanks alot swaps for enlighten us, u've 
always marveled us in these matters. I have one query though, Is 
theeyil composed purely in raag vasanti ?? dunt u think there are shades of 
keeravani. Thanks

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:09 
  PM
  Subject: [arr] Theeyil...Raga 
  Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  HiiAfter reading several posts abt Theeyil song frm GF 
  abt the raga..yes..its is Carnatic Raga Vasanthi & the Hindustani 
  equivalent is Raga Bhoopkali or Bhoopeshri. It has all shuddha swaras 
  except Dha & it omits Madhyam & Nishad though in some cases it may 
  add a Teevra Madhyam being from the Marwa thaat (Raga Family). So its Sa 
  Re Ga Pa Dha(Komal) Sa. ARR's used this raga in Taj Mahal (Adi 
  manjakkizhange), Mudhalvan (Kurukku chiruthavale) & JanaGanaMana album 
  (Hariharan's rendition of Desh ka salam). Theeyil has an exceptional 
  quality of moving ur soul...thats ARR 
  magic!Njoy...Swaps"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@~" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  



Yeah I guess ur right Arya,Raag 
Vaasanthi closes atribute Theeyil not pure though, the 
caranam has presences of other notes.. Being similar to his previous 
works like 'adi manjakkizhangge' (TAJ MAHAL) and of course Kurrukku 
Chiruttavalea (MUDHALVAN).

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Arya 
  To: 
  arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: 
  Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: [arr] GodFather - Raag Vaasanthi (Theeyil)
  
  Monea... ARR- srakka aarayathey anubhavi... 
   
  music manasukkula pughundhu yennma chemistry pannudhu ni 
  yennada enna adhukku mark podukira adakivasi ma kannu... 
  
   
  In this world we can 
  judge only ourselves… not others….
  
  Especially genius 
  like world famous musicians… 
   
  Cheer up 
  
  Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  pankaj!! 
plz dont feel -ve abt innisai song dude i love that song like 
anything. i feel that it is the best carnatic song that i h

Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)

2006-02-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@~





Hi I'd thought that I should share 
some info regarding raga vasanti and theeyil
 
Raga Vasanti has 
a basic scale of S R2 G3 P D1 S – S D1 P G3 R2 S. It is a newly introduced raga 
into the classical music sampradaya as there aren't any traditional compositions 
in this raga. It hasn't found a place in most of the old treatises either. There 
is also a doubt about its parent raga, where the could be's are the 25th mela 
Mararanjini, 26th mela Charukesi as u said and 27th mela Sarasangi. 
Theeyil has a very constructive melody which requires attentive listening to understand its structure. Now let's 
indulge :
 
The Caranam pure uses all notes denoting 
raga vasanti.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kumarr 
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:06 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga 
  Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  is vasanthi a raaga derived from charukeshiplzz clarify coz 
  i thought theeyil was charukeshi"[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  

Thanks alot swaps for enlighten us, u've 
always marveled us in these matters. I have one query though, Is 
theeyil composed purely in raag vasanti ?? dunt u think there are shades of 
keeravani. Thanks

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:09 
  PM
  Subject: [arr] Theeyil...Raga 
  Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  HiiAfter reading several posts abt Theeyil song frm GF 
  abt the raga..yes..its is Carnatic Raga Vasanthi & the Hindustani 
  equivalent is Raga Bhoopkali or Bhoopeshri. It has all shuddha swaras 
  except Dha & it omits Madhyam & Nishad though in some cases it may 
  add a Teevra Madhyam being from the Marwa thaat (Raga Family). So its Sa 
  Re Ga Pa Dha(Komal) Sa. ARR's used this raga in Taj Mahal (Adi 
  manjakkizhange), Mudhalvan (Kurukku chiruthavale) & JanaGanaMana album 
  (Hariharan's rendition of Desh ka salam). Theeyil has an exceptional 
  quality of moving ur soul...thats ARR 
  magic!Njoy...Swaps"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@~" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  



Yeah I guess ur right Arya,Raag 
Vaasanthi closes atribute Theeyil not pure though, the 
caranam has presences of other notes.. Being similar to his previous 
works like 'adi manjakkizhangge' (TAJ MAHAL) and of course Kurrukku 
Chiruttavalea (MUDHALVAN).

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Arya 
  To: 
  arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: 
  Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: [arr] GodFather - Raag Vaasanthi (Theeyil)
  
  Monea... ARR- srakka aarayathey anubhavi... 
   
  music manasukkula pughundhu yennma chemistry pannudhu ni 
  yennada enna adhukku mark podukira adakivasi ma kannu... 
  
   
  In this world we can 
  judge only ourselves… not others….
  
  Especially genius 
  like world famous musicians… 
   
  Cheer up 
  
  Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  pankaj!! 
plz dont feel -ve abt innisai song dude i love that song like 
anything. i feel that it is the best carnatic song that i have heard 
in recent time. great great great composition. simply superb. hope u 
will agree at some point of time. plz try re-considering ur 
decision. listen to that song again and again. u will love it for 
sure. by the way, i hope u managed to c the video songs of GF. if 
not mail me, i will send it to u asap. 
On 2/18/06, Pankaj Kakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 

  hi Friends, my rankings here : What abt 
  urs??
   
  1. Kaatril Vor Vaarthaai - in shades of Raag 
  Natabhairavi & Sindhubhairavi as sometimes remind me of 
  certain places in thillana thillana from Muththu.  
  
   
  2. Theeyil song has been wonderfully classically 
  treated, where in Carnatic Music, it is called Raag Vaasanthi. 
  
   
  3. Ilamai - well westernized song 
   
  4. Innisai though in (Raag Hindolam in Carnatic) 
  i am disappointed by too much 
  usage of Jathis & Swarams (Surs) leads to confusion at one 
  moment and he has given 3 tracks for this with very little 
   

Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)

2006-02-21 Thread Kumarr



is vasanthi a raaga derived from charukeshiplzz clarify coz i thought theeyil was charukeshi"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Thanks alot swaps for enlighten us, u've always marveled us in these matters. I have one query though, Is theeyil composed purely in raag vasanti ?? dunt u think there are shades of keeravani. Thanks- Original Message -   From: ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~   To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com   Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:09 PM  Subject: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)  HiiAfter reading several posts abt Theeyil song frm GF abt the raga..yes..its is Carnatic Raga Vasanthi & the Hindustani equivalent is Raga Bhoopkali or Bhoopeshri. It has all shuddha swaras except Dha & it omits Madhyam & Nishad though in some cases it may add a Teevra Madhyam being from the Marwa thaat (Raga Family). So its Sa Re Ga Pa Dha(Komal) Sa. ARR's used this raga in Taj Mahal (Adi manjakkizhange), Mudhalvan (Kurukku chiruthavale) & JanaGanaMana album (Hariharan's rendition of Desh ka salam). Theeyil has an exceptional quality of moving ur soul...thats ARR magic!Njoy...Swaps"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@~"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Yeah I guess ur right Arya,Raag Vaasanthi closes atribute Theeyil not pure though, the caranam has presences of other notes.. Being similar to his previous works like 'adi manjakkizhangge' (TAJ MAHAL) and of course Kurrukku Chiruttavalea (MUDHALVAN).- Original Message -   From: Arya   To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com   Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 PM  Subject: Re: [arr] GodFather - Raag Vaasanthi (Theeyil)Monea... ARR- srakka aarayathey anubhavi...      music manasukkula pughundhu yennma chemistry pannudhu ni yennada enna adhukku mark podukira adakivasi ma kannu...      In this world we can judge only ourselves… not others….Especially genius like world famous musicians…      Cheer up   Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  pankaj!! plz dont feel -ve abt innisai song dude i love that song like anything. i feel that it is the best carnatic song that i have heard in recent time. great great great composition. simply superb. hope u will agree at some point of time. plz try re-considering ur decision. listen to that song again and again. u
 will love it for sure. by the way, i hope u managed to c the video songs of GF. if not mail me, i will send it to u asap.   On 2/18/06, Pankaj Kakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi Friends, my rankings here : What abt urs??     1. Kaatril Vor Vaarthaai - in shades of Raag Natabhairavi & Sindhubhairavi as sometimes remind me of certain places in thillana thillana from Muththu.   2. Theeyil song has been wonderfully classically treated, where in Carnatic Music, it is called Raag Vaasanthi.      3. Ilamai - well westernized song      4. Innisai though in (Raag Hindolam in Carnatic) i am disappointed by too much usage of Jathis & Swarams (Surs) leads to confusion at one moment and he has given 3 tracks for this with very little differences, i cud find.  His stamp/punch is missing when compared to Minsaara Kanna song in Padaiyappa or Kannodu Kaanbathellam in Jeans or Maargazhi Thingallalavaa in Sangamam      5. Dhinam Deepavali - 'A' funny folk (even sounds like daandiya beat)
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Re: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)

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Thanks alot swaps for enlighten us, u've 
always marveled us in these matters. I have one query though, Is theeyil 
composed purely in raag vasanti ?? dunt u think there are shades of keeravani. 
Thanks

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:09 
  PM
  Subject: [arr] Theeyil...Raga Vasanthi 
  (Bhoopkali/Bhoopeshri)
  HiiAfter reading several posts abt Theeyil song frm GF abt 
  the raga..yes..its is Carnatic Raga Vasanthi & the Hindustani equivalent 
  is Raga Bhoopkali or Bhoopeshri. It has all shuddha swaras except Dha & it 
  omits Madhyam & Nishad though in some cases it may add a Teevra Madhyam 
  being from the Marwa thaat (Raga Family). So its Sa Re Ga Pa Dha(Komal) Sa. 
  ARR's used this raga in Taj Mahal (Adi manjakkizhange), Mudhalvan (Kurukku 
  chiruthavale) & JanaGanaMana album (Hariharan's rendition of Desh ka 
  salam). Theeyil has an exceptional quality of moving ur soul...thats ARR 
  magic!Njoy...Swaps"[EMAIL PROTECTED]@~" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  



Yeah I guess ur right Arya,Raag 
Vaasanthi closes atribute Theeyil not pure though, the 
caranam has presences of other notes.. Being similar to his previous works 
like 'adi manjakkizhangge' (TAJ MAHAL) and of course Kurrukku Chiruttavalea 
(MUDHALVAN).

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Arya 
  To: 
  arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: 
  Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:57 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: [arr] GodFather - Raag Vaasanthi (Theeyil)
  
  Monea... ARR- srakka aarayathey anubhavi... 
   
  music manasukkula pughundhu yennma chemistry pannudhu ni 
  yennada enna adhukku mark podukira adakivasi ma kannu... 
   
  In this world we can 
  judge only ourselves… not others….
  
  Especially genius like 
  world famous musicians… 
   
  Cheer up 
  
  Thulasi Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  pankaj!! 
plz dont feel -ve abt innisai song dude i love that song like 
anything. i feel that it is the best carnatic song that i have heard in 
recent time. great great great composition. simply superb. hope u will 
agree at some point of time. plz try re-considering ur decision. listen 
to that song again and again. u will love it for sure. by the way, i 
hope u managed to c the video songs of GF. if not mail me, i will send 
it to u asap. 
On 2/18/06, Pankaj Kakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 

  hi Friends, my rankings here : What abt 
  urs??
   
  1. Kaatril Vor Vaarthaai - in shades of Raag Natabhairavi 
  & Sindhubhairavi as sometimes remind me of certain places in 
  thillana thillana from Muththu.  
  
   
  2. Theeyil song has been wonderfully classically treated, 
  where in Carnatic Music, it is called Raag Vaasanthi. 
   
  3. Ilamai - well westernized song 
   
  4. Innisai though in (Raag Hindolam in Carnatic) i 
  am disappointed by too much usage of 
  Jathis & Swarams (Surs) leads to confusion at one moment and he 
  has given 3 tracks for this with very little differences, i cud find. 
   His 
  stamp/punch is missing when compared to Minsaara Kanna song in 
  Padaiyappa or Kannodu Kaanbathellam in Jeans or Maargazhi 
  Thingallalavaa in Sangamam 
   
  5. Dhinam Deepavali - 'A' funny folk (even sounds like 
  daandiya beat) 
   
  6. Kamma karaiyil - Kooththu (no comments) 
   
  70% is the net result when compared to his previous 
  works. Pankaj 
  
  
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