RKM Authentication

2010-07-10 Thread John Baker
Jason,

Do you have some further information you could share?  Seems a rather odd
move to re-write RKM in workflow - RKM is a fairly nice app, both in terms
of UI and the way it's written.  The Search Server dependency could easily
be removed through the use of the wonderful open source Lucene project,
leaving little or no external licensing to worry about.


John

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Re: DB Links vs Webservices

2010-07-10 Thread Joe D'Souza
Comparing the two tools is like comparing apples to oranges at best.. The
are two completely different tools with completely different set of
capabilities with only a couple of capabilities in common.

The number one reason I would choose the SQL routes over others if the SQL
route is a possible solution, is its efficiency assuming you have a good SQL
code. Executing SQL code bypasses the ARS application layer, and that in
itself, is an advantage for performance reasons. Direct SQL's are thrown to
the DB server AS-IS, even if it is garbage. Is that a bad thing? Not
necessarily. You just don't write code without validating it for its
correctness and efficiency do you?

Agreed, if you move databases, some SQL code MAY not remain valid, and may
have to be modified. This is true even sometimes with a DB upgrade. But how
often does that really happen? If that is the primary concern, it is
possible to pre-prepare code for other databases, if the code would differ
for the same operation by doing a $DATABASE$ check of what is the current
database.

Examples of when web-services over any other direct method may be preferred:
1) You have absolutely no clue about the other application you want to
submit or retrieve information from and that system does have web service
publishing capabilities.
2) You have no time or reasons to justify the re-invention of a wheel, if
its just a simple submit/query type of an action you want the ARS to perform
on the other application or vice versa..
3) You trust the other application is well written, if you have to query
from a large table, so the underlying query performed by the web service is
efficient. If not, you might be better off with a DB-Link solution.

Examples of when a DB-Link may be preferred:
1) You want to display the results of a query into another application on a
table field in the ARS.
2) An external application needs to query an ARS join form, that could more
efficiently be done with a union join. Creating that union join at DB level
and publishing a DB-Link to it might be a better idea than to create that
join at DB level and creating a Remedy view form. If you are going to create
a join at DB level, you might as well maintain the whole integration effort
from the DB perspective..
3) Querying large tables where you suspect default application queries are
inefficient..

Joe


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  Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:55 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: DB Links vs Webservices


  ** Hi Naveen,

I prefer 3-tier architecture rather than 2-tier solely because
working with data-model directly is not a scalable design.

I prefer web-services route only because I dont have to deal with
SQL havocs(I am not SQL guru :)) and working with Databases which I dont own
and have no control on. Furthermore, if database gets changed then you have
to re-generate your view forms and re-attach workflow which is tedious and
difficult to maintain over time(actually this is something that we just
realized in our team).

Think of databases as confidential papers or stores of personal
information. If somebody knocks at your door and asks you about those
confidential papers, how would you like to give them? Would you just,  tell
them to go and get them yourself, they are in so and so locker, or would you
rather have them wait there and fetch papers yourself or through a trusted
party?

Tomorrow if the team with whom you are integrating changes their DB
provider and if for God knows what reason your SQL breaks, then you are in
trouble. Instead if they have a web-service in front of their DB, you
wouldnt even care what they use on backend. Web-service itself is a binding
contract between you and them. Also, I believe you can do tonnes of things
on middle tier (like transaction/messaging management, writing to logs
etc.)..which otherwise if you want to do in Remedy then it will become heavy
task.

Web-services are good for transactions..like if you are inserting
data into db and waiting for an ID in response, that's where they could be
really good, since you would be getting real-time data.

1 thing I really admire about web-services is their
synchronous/asynchronous behavior. I am not really sure if it is achievable
through direct SQL. I am having a real-time scenario where we are inserting
data into other team's DB and it takes about 15 minutes for them to generate
an ID. Since, they dont have web-services infrastructure, we have to go and
poll their DB every 15 minutes, and sometimes it could be a hit- and-miss
kind of situation. With web-services on both sides, data would flow
seamlessly as and when available and we dont need any unnecessary
escalations.


Also, if you look at Remedy's architecture, its good practice to use
either api or web-services...and as far as I am concerned I would like 

Re: Different times from User tool and Web

2010-07-10 Thread Joe D'Souza
Verify that every component of the application Client OS, web client
(browser), Web OS, Web application server (and possibly the MT engine
itself) has any recommended fixes to DST installed. I think about a year
ago, we had the latest fixes in accordance to new DST conventions, on some
of these components..

Joe
  -Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Alex
  Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:50 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Different times from User tool and Web


  ** We are facing the exact same issue -- the times are 1 hour off on
midtier which is on EST.

  Let me know if you find a solution to the problem.



  On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

**
Anne's suggestion extended my idea suggested in a mail 5 minutes ago a
little more.. check for latest DST fixes on the web server both at the OS
level, as well as web server application level.. MT 7.5 Patch 3 I think has
the latest fixes as far as DST is concerned so you are good there.. Check on
the OS level and web application server level..

Joe
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of SriSamSri Appecherla

  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:04 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

  Subject: Re: Different times from User tool and Web


  **
  Hi Anne,

  I wanted all the users to be able to view the times only in GMT. So I
had set the Time Zone in User Preferences and configured the Preference
server.

  Regards,
  SriSamSri Appecherla
  Mobile# +91 991 610 6008



  On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov
wrote:

**
The dates display based on what the time zone/local time is on the
user's machine.  For the user tool, this is the individual's desktop, if
it's the mid-tier, it's the server's date/time settings. I would check the
time and time zone settings on the servers that run the mid-tier.



Anne Ramey
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of SriSamSri Appecherla
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:50 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Different times from User tool and Web



**

Hi Listers,



I have an issue with the Date/Time fields in Remedy. I have set the
Time Zone as GMT +00:00 Europ/London in User Preferences for all the users.
I have checked the times on ARS host, midtier host and DB server. The are
all in GMT.



When I login through the User tool, it displays the correct time as
per the Time Zone I have set for the user. However, when I login through the
web, it shows the time setting it off by 1hour. For eg; if the time in User
tool is shown as 06:00 PM, in the web it shows as 05:00 PM.



I feel the issue is somehow related to Day Light saving, but unable
to conclude on it.



ARS Version : 7.5, P3

MidTier : 7.5

Oracle DB 11g



Regards,
SriSamSri Appecherla
Mobile# +91 991 610 6008

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Re: RKM Authentication

2010-07-10 Thread Kevin Begosh
John,
Well the way I heard, I have seen it yet, was that it is being built in
remedy workflow for ease of change the look and feel of RKM amongst other
things.

Kevin Begosh

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:31 AM, John Baker
jba...@javasystemsolutions.comwrote:

 Jason,

 Do you have some further information you could share?  Seems a rather odd
 move to re-write RKM in workflow - RKM is a fairly nice app, both in terms
 of UI and the way it's written.  The Search Server dependency could easily
 be removed through the use of the wonderful open source Lucene project,
 leaving little or no external licensing to worry about.


 John


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Re: Different times from User tool and Web

2010-07-10 Thread SriSamSri Appecherla
I discussed this with BMC and they said, this bug existed in ARS 7.1 but was
resolved with Patch 8. It seems to be reoccuring now. I am yet to get a
confirmation from BMC that they accept it as a bug in ARS 7.5

Regards,
SriSamSri Appecherla
Mobile# +91 991 610 6008


On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 **
 Verify that every component of the application Client OS, web client
 (browser), Web OS, Web application server (and possibly the MT engine
 itself) has any recommended fixes to DST installed. I think about a year
 ago, we had the latest fixes in accordance to new DST conventions, on some
 of these components..

 Joe

 -Original Message-
 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org]*on Behalf Of *Alex
 *Sent:* Friday, July 09, 2010 11:50 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Different times from User tool and Web

 ** We are facing the exact same issue -- the times are 1 hour off on
 midtier which is on EST.

 Let me know if you find a solution to the problem.


 On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 **
 Anne's suggestion extended my idea suggested in a mail 5 minutes ago a
 little more.. check for latest DST fixes on the web server both at the OS
 level, as well as web server application level.. MT 7.5 Patch 3 I think has
 the latest fixes as far as DST is concerned so you are good there.. Check on
 the OS level and web application server level..

 Joe

  -Original Message-
 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org]*on Behalf Of *SriSamSri Appecherla
  *Sent:* Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:04 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  *Subject:* Re: Different times from User tool and Web

  **
 Hi Anne,

 I wanted all the users to be able to view the times only in GMT. So I had
 set the Time Zone in User Preferences and configured the Preference server.

 Regards,
 SriSamSri Appecherla
 Mobile# +91 991 610 6008


 On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Ramey, Anne anne.ra...@nc.gov wrote:

 **

 The dates display based on what the time zone/local time is on the user's
 machine.  For the user tool, this is the individual's desktop, if it's the
 mid-tier, it's the server's date/time settings. I would check the time and
 time zone settings on the servers that run the mid-tier.



 Anne Ramey
 ***

 *E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
 North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only
 by an authorized State Official.*



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *SriSamSri Appecherla
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:50 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Different times from User tool and Web



 **

 Hi Listers,



 I have an issue with the Date/Time fields in Remedy. I have set the Time
 Zone as GMT +00:00 Europ/London in User Preferences for all the users. I
 have checked the times on ARS host, midtier host and DB server. The are all
 in GMT.



 When I login through the User tool, it displays the correct time as per
 the Time Zone I have set for the user. However, when I login through the
 web, it shows the time setting it off by 1hour. For eg; if the time in User
 tool is shown as 06:00 PM, in the web it shows as 05:00 PM.



 I feel the issue is somehow related to Day Light saving, but unable to
 conclude on it.



 ARS Version : 7.5, P3

 MidTier : 7.5

 Oracle DB 11g



 Regards,
 SriSamSri Appecherla
 Mobile# +91 991 610 6008

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Email notification sent to the user when priority of an incident is changed.

2010-07-10 Thread IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
Hi there,
Version 7.1
Email notification to be sent to the user when priority of an incident is 
changed. How this is possible?

Thanks in advance

Thanks  Regards

Amanullah



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