Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk Floating Licenses

2008-09-29 Thread Bilinski, John
 All,

I need some quick advice for my management on how many Service Desk and
Change Floating Licenses we should purchase for our new system. Can
someone tell me what the ratio of AR System Floating licenses to Service
Desk Floating Licenses you have with your system? I know that
Application floating licenses are only grabbed from the user pool when a
record is updated or submitted to the database which is a split second
thing, in that case lets say for example I have 100 AR System Floating
Licenses and I own service desk and my user base is 24 hours and not all
users will use the system during peak hours how many Service Desk
Floating licenses should I purchase? 1:3 or 1:4 or would a higher ratio
be better?

Thanks.

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Re: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk Floating Licenses

2008-09-29 Thread Jiri Pospisil
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John,

one thing to consider is the fact that the application floating license is 
allocated to the user not when they update an entry in the given application, 
but when they access a form that belongs to the application, i.e. the incident 
management floating license token gets allocated to the users when they open 
the Incident Management console and stays with them for at least an hour or 
until they log off the Remedy client (this is what we observed on our 7.0.1 
system).
I have just had a quick look in our user log file and I think the usage ration 
between the Remedy floating and Incident management floating licenses is about 
1:2.
This is mostly due to the fact that we heavily use the work order module which 
does not require application license, only Remedy one.
If your users will be mostly (or only) using the Incident management system, 
you may even need to go with ratio closer to 1:1.

Hope this helps

Jiri Pospisil

IT Services
LCH.Clearnet



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Subject: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk
Floating Licenses


 All,

I need some quick advice for my management on how many Service Desk and
Change Floating Licenses we should purchase for our new system. Can
someone tell me what the ratio of AR System Floating licenses to Service
Desk Floating Licenses you have with your system? I know that
Application floating licenses are only grabbed from the user pool when a
record is updated or submitted to the database which is a split second
thing, in that case lets say for example I have 100 AR System Floating
Licenses and I own service desk and my user base is 24 hours and not all
users will use the system during peak hours how many Service Desk
Floating licenses should I purchase? 1:3 or 1:4 or would a higher ratio
be better?

Thanks.

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Re: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk Floating Licenses

2008-09-29 Thread Bilinski, John
Thank you Jiri,

How does the licensing true up at the end of the year with BMC work? I
heard that with 7.1 you have to send BMC your license file for them to
review it, and if you use more than you own they charge you for it. Is
this true?

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jiri Pospisil
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk
Floating Licenses

++
Please Read The Disclaimer At The Bottom Of This Email
++

John,

one thing to consider is the fact that the application floating license
is allocated to the user not when they update an entry in the given
application, but when they access a form that belongs to the
application, i.e. the incident management floating license token gets
allocated to the users when they open the Incident Management console
and stays with them for at least an hour or until they log off the
Remedy client (this is what we observed on our 7.0.1 system).
I have just had a quick look in our user log file and I think the usage
ration between the Remedy floating and Incident management floating
licenses is about 1:2.
This is mostly due to the fact that we heavily use the work order module
which does not require application license, only Remedy one.
If your users will be mostly (or only) using the Incident management
system, you may even need to go with ratio closer to 1:1.

Hope this helps

Jiri Pospisil

IT Services
LCH.Clearnet



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bilinski, John
Sent: 29 September 2008 14:12
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk
Floating Licenses


 All,

I need some quick advice for my management on how many Service Desk and
Change Floating Licenses we should purchase for our new system. Can
someone tell me what the ratio of AR System Floating licenses to Service
Desk Floating Licenses you have with your system? I know that
Application floating licenses are only grabbed from the user pool when a
record is updated or submitted to the database which is a split second
thing, in that case lets say for example I have 100 AR System Floating
Licenses and I own service desk and my user base is 24 hours and not all
users will use the system during peak hours how many Service Desk
Floating licenses should I purchase? 1:3 or 1:4 or would a higher ratio
be better?

Thanks.


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Re: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk Floating Licenses

2008-09-29 Thread Easter, David
 I heard that with 7.1 you have to send BMC your license file for them to 
 review it, and if you use more than you 
 own they charge you for it. Is this true?

No, this is not true.  You are not required to send your license file for 
[BMC] to review it.  However, if you are using more licenses than you've 
purchased, you are required to report the overage to BMC and purchase an 
appropriate number of licenses from BMC to ensure that you are in compliance 
with license agreements.
 
Please see the FAQ for more information at:
 
http://developer.bmc.com/communities/message/10881#10881
 
Q: How will BMC monitor my usage? 

A: BMC will not actively monitor your usage.  BMC trusts its customers to 
self-report their usage and notify BMC or BMC partner when licenses are added 
or removed so that customer billing matches usage. 

  

Q: You mean no one from BMC will ever check on my usage? 

A: BMC reserves the right to audit any customer if it appears that a misuse of 
licenses has occurred.  This would typically be initiated by the customer sales 
representative and would typically involve an interactive conversation with the 
customer to determine actual usage as compared to purchases. 

 
  
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Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development
BMC Software, Inc.
 
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Bilinski, John
Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 6:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk 
Floating Licenses



Thank you Jiri,

How does the licensing true up at the end of the year with BMC work? I
heard that with 7.1 you have to send BMC your license file for them to
review it, and if you use more than you own they charge you for it. Is
this true?

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jiri Pospisil
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk
Floating Licenses

++
Please Read The Disclaimer At The Bottom Of This Email
++

John,

one thing to consider is the fact that the application floating license
is allocated to the user not when they update an entry in the given
application, but when they access a form that belongs to the
application, i.e. the incident management floating license token gets
allocated to the users when they open the Incident Management console
and stays with them for at least an hour or until they log off the
Remedy client (this is what we observed on our 7.0.1 system).
I have just had a quick look in our user log file and I think the usage
ration between the Remedy floating and Incident management floating
licenses is about 1:2.
This is mostly due to the fact that we heavily use the work order module
which does not require application license, only Remedy one.
If your users will be mostly (or only) using the Incident management
system, you may even need to go with ratio closer to 1:1.

Hope this helps

Jiri Pospisil

IT Services
LCH.Clearnet



-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bilinski, John
Sent: 29 September 2008 14:12
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Advice: Need Ratio of AR Floating Licenses to Service Desk
Floating Licenses


 All,

I need some quick advice for my management on how many Service Desk and
Change Floating Licenses we should purchase for our new system. Can
someone tell me what the ratio of AR System Floating licenses to Service
Desk Floating Licenses you have with your system? I know that
Application floating licenses are only grabbed from the user pool when a
record is updated or submitted to the database which is a split second
thing, in that case lets say for example I have 100 AR System Floating
Licenses and I own service desk and my user base is 24 hours and not all
users will use the system during peak hours how many Service Desk
Floating licenses should I purchase? 1:3 or 1:4 or would a higher ratio
be better?

Thanks.


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