All about Mid-tier

2010-06-04 Thread NNMN
Hi ARS’ers

I have an environment where an ARS custom app has been built. The current
version of ARS used is 7.0.001. This app has gone through migration through
multiple version ARS starting version 5.1. Although it was never intended to
have a thin-client view, we have thought of going with a mid-tier.
Now I have some questions:

1.  So after this being installed, I would like to know very much on what
level the custom app (By custom app I mean using every possible ARS workflow
action/ui components etc) will be usable in thin client (If I want all users
to use only thin-client). Ideally I know whatever works in AR User is
supposed to work in thin-client also. Still to be very sure
2.  Let’s say I have installed 7.0 mid-tier and then I plan to install 7.5
mid-tier later even before the app is migrated to ARS 7.5. Will this have
any issues or are there any checks I need to make pre and post installation
of mid-tier. 

Happy and a peaceful weekend everyone
Cheers,
Naveen
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Re: All about Mid-tier

2010-06-04 Thread Benedetto Cantatore
Obviously, heavy testing on your part is going to be required.  I'd
focus on reviewing active links, particularly any that may contain
macros.  
 
Ben Cantatore
Remedy Manager
(914) 457-6209
 
Emerging Health IT
3 Odell Plaza
Yonkers, New York 10701

>>> naveen...@gmail.com 06/04/10 6:50 AM >>>

Hi ARS'ers

I have an environment where an ARS custom app has been built. The
current
version of ARS used is 7.0.001. This app has gone through migration
through
multiple version ARS starting version 5.1. Although it was never
intended to
have a thin-client view, we have thought of going with a mid-tier.
Now I have some questions:

1.So after this being installed, I would like to know very much on
what
level the custom app (By custom app I mean using every possible ARS
workflow
action/ui components etc) will be usable in thin client (If I want all
users
to use only thin-client). Ideally I know whatever works in AR User is
supposed to work in thin-client also. Still to be very sure
2.Let's say I have installed 7.0 mid-tier and then I plan to
install 7.5
mid-tier later even before the app is migrated to ARS 7.5. Will this
have
any issues or are there any checks I need to make pre and post
installation
of mid-tier. 

Happy and a peaceful weekend everyone
Cheers,
Naveen
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Re: All about Mid-tier

2010-06-04 Thread LJ LongWing
Naveen,
Any AL action that interacts directly with the client (DDE, RunMacro, etc) 
won't work in the web, but all others do with very little issues.  In fact, in 
later versions (7.5->) there are things that only work in the web and not 
native.  I agree that you will need lots of testing, but I believe you will 
find that the web works very well for most situations.

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Subject: All about Mid-tier

Hi ARS’ers

I have an environment where an ARS custom app has been built. The current
version of ARS used is 7.0.001. This app has gone through migration through
multiple version ARS starting version 5.1. Although it was never intended to
have a thin-client view, we have thought of going with a mid-tier.
Now I have some questions:

1.  So after this being installed, I would like to know very much on what
level the custom app (By custom app I mean using every possible ARS workflow
action/ui components etc) will be usable in thin client (If I want all users
to use only thin-client). Ideally I know whatever works in AR User is
supposed to work in thin-client also. Still to be very sure
2.  Let’s say I have installed 7.0 mid-tier and then I plan to install 7.5
mid-tier later even before the app is migrated to ARS 7.5. Will this have
any issues or are there any checks I need to make pre and post installation
of mid-tier. 

Happy and a peaceful weekend everyone
Cheers,
Naveen
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Re: All about Mid-tier

2010-06-04 Thread Chuck
Go to BMC Documentation and Download
Behavioral Differences
Between BMC® Remedy®
User and Web Clients

This will explain in pretty good details the differences.

On Jun 4, 10:32 am, LJ LongWing  wrote:
> Naveen,
> Any AL action that interacts directly with the client (DDE, RunMacro, etc) 
> won't work in the web, but all others do with very little issues.  In fact, 
> in later versions (7.5->) there are things that only work in the web and not 
> native.  I agree that you will need lots of testing, but I believe you will 
> find that the web works very well for most situations.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of NNMN
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:50 AM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: All about Mid-tier
>
> Hi ARS’ers
>
> I have an environment where an ARS custom app has been built. The current
> version of ARS used is 7.0.001. This app has gone through migration through
> multiple version ARS starting version 5.1. Although it was never intended to
> have a thin-client view, we have thought of going with a mid-tier.
> Now I have some questions:
>
> 1.      So after this being installed, I would like to know very much on what
> level the custom app (By custom app I mean using every possible ARS workflow
> action/ui components etc) will be usable in thin client (If I want all users
> to use only thin-client). Ideally I know whatever works in AR User is
> supposed to work in thin-client also. Still to be very sure
> 2.      Let’s say I have installed 7.0 mid-tier and then I plan to install 7.5
> mid-tier later even before the app is migrated to ARS 7.5. Will this have
> any issues or are there any checks I need to make pre and post installation
> of mid-tier.
>
> Happy and a peaceful weekend everyone
> Cheers,
> Naveen
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Re: All about Mid-tier

2010-06-05 Thread Angus Comber
Any run process that uses the command line will have to be edited.  They won't 
work.

Any custom app which uses the Remedy COM API to automate Remedy will also not 
work with web clients.

I am sure there are other issues too.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Benedetto Cantatore 
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
  Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:15 PM
  Subject: Re: All about Mid-tier


  ** 
  Obviously, heavy testing on your part is going to be required.  I'd focus on 
reviewing active links, particularly any that may contain macros.  

  Ben Cantatore
  Remedy Manager
  (914) 457-6209

  Emerging Health IT
  3 Odell Plaza
  Yonkers, New York 10701

  >>> naveen...@gmail.com 06/04/10 6:50 AM >>>

  Hi ARS'ers

  I have an environment where an ARS custom app has been built. The current
  version of ARS used is 7.0.001. This app has gone through migration through
  multiple version ARS starting version 5.1. Although it was never intended to
  have a thin-client view, we have thought of going with a mid-tier.
  Now I have some questions:

  1.So after this being installed, I would like to know very much on what
  level the custom app (By custom app I mean using every possible ARS workflow
  action/ui components etc) will be usable in thin client (If I want all users
  to use only thin-client). Ideally I know whatever works in AR User is
  supposed to work in thin-client also. Still to be very sure
  2.Let's say I have installed 7.0 mid-tier and then I plan to install 7.5
  mid-tier later even before the app is migrated to ARS 7.5. Will this have
  any issues or are there any checks I need to make pre and post installation
  of mid-tier. 

  Happy and a peaceful weekend everyone
  Cheers,
  Naveen
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Re: All about Mid-tier

2010-06-07 Thread NNMN
Hi all,

Thanks for all the inputs. The white paper on behavioural differences seems
to be very helpful.

Thanks a lot guys! :)

With Warm Regrards,
Naveen

cpgold wrote:
> 
> Go to BMC Documentation and Download
> Behavioral Differences
> Between BMC® Remedy®
> User and Web Clients
> 
> This will explain in pretty good details the differences.
> 
> On Jun 4, 10:32 am, LJ LongWing  wrote:
>> Naveen,
>> Any AL action that interacts directly with the client (DDE, RunMacro,
>> etc) won't work in the web, but all others do with very little issues.
>>  In fact, in later versions (7.5->) there are things that only work in
>> the web and not native.  I agree that you will need lots of testing, but
>> I believe you will find that the web works very well for most situations.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of NNMN
>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:50 AM
>> To: arsl...@arslist.org
>> Subject: All about Mid-tier
>>
>> Hi ARS’ers
>>
>> I have an environment where an ARS custom app has been built. The current
>> version of ARS used is 7.0.001. This app has gone through migration
>> through
>> multiple version ARS starting version 5.1. Although it was never intended
>> to
>> have a thin-client view, we have thought of going with a mid-tier.
>> Now I have some questions:
>>
>> 1.      So after this being installed, I would like to know very much on
>> what
>> level the custom app (By custom app I mean using every possible ARS
>> workflow
>> action/ui components etc) will be usable in thin client (If I want all
>> users
>> to use only thin-client). Ideally I know whatever works in AR User is
>> supposed to work in thin-client also. Still to be very sure
>> 2.      Let’s say I have installed 7.0 mid-tier and then I plan to
>> install 7.5
>> mid-tier later even before the app is migrated to ARS 7.5. Will this have
>> any issues or are there any checks I need to make pre and post
>> installation
>> of mid-tier.
>>
>> Happy and a peaceful weekend everyone
>> Cheers,
>> Naveen
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