Re: FW: Am I making this more difficult than it is?
Lisa, (or anyone) We have Kinetic Calendar hooked up to drive ITSM 7 - on call. This type of problem could be eliminated as you would graphically see what is covered what is not in a calendar -- and schedule people accordingly. Would you be interested in seeing a demo on how to use Kinetic Calendar to drive on-call schedules in a graphical way? -John -- John David Sundberg 235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B St. Paul, MN 55101 (651) 556-0930-work (651) 247-6766-cell (651) 695-8577-fax john.sundb...@kineticdata.com On Apr 3, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Kemes, Lisa wrote: ** I have a record with a Start Date field of: 4/12/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of: 4/30/2009 12:00:00 AM. If someone were to create another record with a Start Date of: 4/1/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of 4/15/2009 12:00:00 AM, I want it to error because this would "overwrite" (not really) the other record. This is for my On Call system. Therefore, if these 2 records are allowed to exist, you would have more than one person on call (as a primary) for the same dates (4/12, 4/13, 4/14 and 4/15). Hope this makes sense! I actually have these records on a table and I would like to walk through the table to make sure the records with the Start Date field: 4/1 and End Date field: 4/15 does not get created. AR System 7.0 Oracle 10g Windows 2003 Server Lisa Kemes AR System Developer Tyco Electronics 717-810-2408 tel 717-810-2124 fax lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com __Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Am I making this more difficult than it is?
Hi Lisa, I would suggest you want to check if either the start date or end date falls within the date range used. Thus to do this you would need the following. (“Start date of record being submitted” => “Start date of record submitted” AND “Start date of record being submitted” =< “End date of record submitted”) OR (“End date of record being submitted” => “Start date of record submitted” AND “End date of record being submitted” =< “End date of record submitted”) This would tell you if either the start date or end date fall within the range already allocated. Brian Bishop Goldstag Consultants Ltd tel: 07973 746832 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/brianpbishop> Linkedin From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa Sent: 03 April 2009 19:12 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Am I making this more difficult than it is? ** I have a record with a Start Date field of: 4/12/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of: 4/30/2009 12:00:00 AM. If someone were to create another record with a Start Date of: 4/1/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of 4/15/2009 12:00:00 AM, I want it to error because this would "overwrite" (not really) the other record. This is for my On Call system. Therefore, if these 2 records are allowed to exist, you would have more than one person on call (as a primary) for the same dates (4/12, 4/13, 4/14 and 4/15). Hope this makes sense! I actually have these records on a table and I would like to walk through the table to make sure the records with the Start Date field: 4/1 and End Date field: 4/15 does not get created. AR System 7.0 Oracle 10g Windows 2003 Server Lisa Kemes AR System Developer Tyco Electronics 717-810-2408 tel 717-810-2124 fax lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com __Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.40/2039 - Release Date: 04/03/09 06:19:00 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" <>
Re: Am I making this more difficult than it is?
This works! Thanks so much Lyle!! Lisa From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:45 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Am I making this more difficult than it is? ** It's simpler than it seems at first. If you're trying to find if there is a conflicting record, you're looking for something like this: Existing_start_date < new_end_date and existing_end_date > new_start_date That is, in order for the new time period to overlap the old one, the new time period has to end after the old one starts, and it has to begin before the old one ends. Your query might look like this: 'Start Date' < $End Date$ AND 'End Date' > $Start Date$ Does that make sense? Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:12 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Am I making this more difficult than it is? ** I have a record with a Start Date field of: 4/12/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of: 4/30/2009 12:00:00 AM. If someone were to create another record with a Start Date of: 4/1/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of 4/15/2009 12:00:00 AM, I want it to error because this would "overwrite" (not really) the other record. This is for my On Call system. Therefore, if these 2 records are allowed to exist, you would have more than one person on call (as a primary) for the same dates (4/12, 4/13, 4/14 and 4/15). Hope this makes sense! I actually have these records on a table and I would like to walk through the table to make sure the records with the Start Date field: 4/1 and End Date field: 4/15 does not get created. AR System 7.0 Oracle 10g Windows 2003 Server Lisa Kemes AR System Developer Tyco Electronics 717-810-2408 tel 717-810-2124 fax lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com __Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. __Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Am I making this more difficult than it is?
Hi Lisa,
I think you need to create a filter with a Set Field action that will
check the condtion hereafter, and a second one that will raise an
error if the first filter found a matching record.
Let's assume that your form is called Sample
You create a display-only field on that form called zTmpEntryID
You create a first filter on submit and on modify. The Run If is
empty. It contains one Set Field action
From: Sample
Set If: ('Start Date' <= $Start Date$ AND 'End Date' > $Start Date$)
OR ('Start Date' < $End Date$ AND 'End Date' >= $End Date$)
If No Match => Set Field To Null
If Multiple Match => Use First Matching
zTmpEntryID <- $1$
The second filter just displays an error message in case of
zTmpEntryID is not null.
Hope this helps,
Jean-Louis Halleux
Remedy Expert & Developer
ARSmarts sa
www.arsmarts.com
On 03 Apr 2009, at 20:11, Kemes, Lisa wrote:
**
I have a record with a Start Date field of: 4/12/2009 12:00:00 AM
and an End Date field of: 4/30/2009 12:00:00 AM.
If someone were to create another record with a Start Date of:
4/1/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of 4/15/2009 12:00:00 AM,
I want it to error because this would "overwrite" (not really) the
other record.
This is for my On Call system. Therefore, if these 2 records are
allowed to exist, you would have more than one person on call (as a
primary) for the same dates (4/12, 4/13, 4/14 and 4/15).
Hope this makes sense!
I actually have these records on a table and I would like to walk
through the table to make sure the records with the Start Date
field: 4/1 and End Date field: 4/15 does not get created.
AR System 7.0
Oracle 10g
Windows 2003 Server
Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
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Re: Am I making this more difficult than it is?
Simple answer.. Yes Think a Push fields action. Query 'Start Date' = $Start Date$ and 'End Date' = $End Date$ For a match Display an error message No Match take no action since you are submitting the ticket anyway Greg Givens -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:12 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Am I making this more difficult than it is? ** I have a record with a Start Date field of: 4/12/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of: 4/30/2009 12:00:00 AM. If someone were to create another record with a Start Date of: 4/1/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of 4/15/2009 12:00:00 AM, I want it to error because this would "overwrite" (not really) the other record. This is for my On Call system. Therefore, if these 2 records are allowed to exist, you would have more than one person on call (as a primary) for the same dates (4/12, 4/13, 4/14 and 4/15). Hope this makes sense! I actually have these records on a table and I would like to walk through the table to make sure the records with the Start Date field: 4/1 and End Date field: 4/15 does not get created. AR System 7.0 Oracle 10g Windows 2003 Server Lisa Kemes AR System Developer Tyco Electronics 717-810-2408 tel 717-810-2124 fax lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com __Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Am I making this more difficult than it is?
It's simpler than it seems at first. If you're trying to find if there is a conflicting record, you're looking for something like this: Existing_start_date < new_end_date and existing_end_date > new_start_date That is, in order for the new time period to overlap the old one, the new time period has to end after the old one starts, and it has to begin before the old one ends. Your query might look like this: 'Start Date' < $End Date$ AND 'End Date' > $Start Date$ Does that make sense? Lyle From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:12 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Am I making this more difficult than it is? ** I have a record with a Start Date field of: 4/12/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of: 4/30/2009 12:00:00 AM. If someone were to create another record with a Start Date of: 4/1/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of 4/15/2009 12:00:00 AM, I want it to error because this would "overwrite" (not really) the other record. This is for my On Call system. Therefore, if these 2 records are allowed to exist, you would have more than one person on call (as a primary) for the same dates (4/12, 4/13, 4/14 and 4/15). Hope this makes sense! I actually have these records on a table and I would like to walk through the table to make sure the records with the Start Date field: 4/1 and End Date field: 4/15 does not get created. AR System 7.0 Oracle 10g Windows 2003 Server Lisa Kemes AR System Developer Tyco Electronics 717-810-2408 tel 717-810-2124 fax lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com __Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
FW: Am I making this more difficult than it is?
I have a record with a Start Date field of: 4/12/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of: 4/30/2009 12:00:00 AM. If someone were to create another record with a Start Date of: 4/1/2009 12:00:00 AM and an End Date field of 4/15/2009 12:00:00 AM, I want it to error because this would "overwrite" (not really) the other record. This is for my On Call system. Therefore, if these 2 records are allowed to exist, you would have more than one person on call (as a primary) for the same dates (4/12, 4/13, 4/14 and 4/15). Hope this makes sense! I actually have these records on a table and I would like to walk through the table to make sure the records with the Start Date field: 4/1 and End Date field: 4/15 does not get created. AR System 7.0 Oracle 10g Windows 2003 Server Lisa Kemes AR System Developer Tyco Electronics 717-810-2408 tel 717-810-2124 fax lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
