Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-05 Thread Logan, Kelly
Still not getting a license connect.  Here's what I tried:

Redefined Quickbooks software as a Product CI type.
Updated the categorization in the license certificates.
Created five software instances (Product CI), QuickBooks-1 to 05.
Created five laptops (Computer System CI), related them to people (Dependency - 
Used By), added software, one to each, using Component (Child) relationship.  
Each laptop now shows two child relationships, dependency to a person and 
component to a product (QuickBooks).
Back to SAM console, opened license certificates, created 'Attached To' 
relationships between license certificates and products (software) - all five 
product CIs are listed as Related CIs on the console, but the deployed numbers 
are still 0.
Ran compliance only job - Found nothing at all - No CIs with certs, no CIs 
without certs, all four lines are 0s.
Set job to do review and connect again - Found 5 CIs with no certs.  Back to 
SAM console, the job disconnected all five product CIs again from the license 
certifications.

Something is still throwing off the license engine.  Again, is there anywhere 
in the documentation that explains what the License Engine uses to connect so I 
can check these details myself?  The Product CIs and license certificates have 
the exact same categorization.  Why isn't it accepting the 'Attached To' 
relationship I create manually?

Do I have to use the license engine in order to confirm these connections (set 
the deployed values)?  In this example, three specific items of software are 
supposed to be attached to one license cert, and two to another - if the 
license engine just maps whatever matches, how will I make sure it doesn't 
choose the wrong ones?


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mori, Toshiyasu
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
Logan,


1.   Please relate People to parent CI (Computer System) not Software Asset 
CI with Used by role (then you should see Person is associated to the Computer 
System Relationships table, RLE rule checks Person relationship when work with 
Per copy license type).

2.   CI Type BMC_Application is not Software Asset CI Type it doesn't 
support RLE engine rule, you should choose either of CI Types from System 
Component - Product, Package, Operating System, Patch, System Software, System 
- Software Server as Software CI.

3.   if you use Purchase Line item UI to create line item, it will give you 
message to select Contract and/or license certificate when CI Type was chosen 
Software Asset CI.

Toshiyasu
Asset management QA lead, BMC Software


---
Toshiyasu Mori (Charles)
ITSM QA Engineer, Service Support Dept
Room 2403, 91 E. Tasman Dr,
San Jose, CA 95134, U.S.A
Tel: 1-408-571-7270  Fax: 1-408-571-7001
BMC Software  www.bmc.comhttp://www.bmc.com/
toshiyasu_m...@bmc.commailto:toshiyasu_m...@bmc.com

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:00 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
We will be using an outside product for procurement, so I am testing the 
process of adding software and licenses on ARS/ITSM 7.6.4.

Following the instructions in the Asset Management User guide, I have created 
Application CIs and related them to users, and created a software contract and 
license certificates, and I have used the 'Search for Existing Record to 
Relate' function on the 'Software Assets' tab of the license certificates to 
relate the software CIs (Application CI type).  But this does not change the 
deployment numbers on the certificate.

When I run the license engine job (does a full check on all CIs for this 
company), it removes this relationship and states that the CIs have no 
certificates.

What do I need to match to have the license engine link the Application CIs to 
the certificates?

Certificates
Company:  PQ-GIO
Status: Executed
License Type: Per copy
Related to Product Category:
   Manufacturer:  Intuit, Inc.
   Product Name:  QuickBooks
   Market Version:  12.0
   Cat 1:  Software
   Cat 2:  Application
   Cat 3:  Third Party

Application CIs

Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-05 Thread Peter Romain
The license certificate and CI's need to have the same Company value as well
as matching categorisations.

 

You don't need to relate the certificates to the CI's, the engine will do
that for you.

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: 05 January 2012 16:37
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

 

** 

Still not getting a license connect.  Here's what I tried:

 

Redefined Quickbooks software as a Product CI type.

Updated the categorization in the license certificates.

Created five software instances (Product CI), QuickBooks-1 to 05.

Created five laptops (Computer System CI), related them to people
(Dependency - Used By), added software, one to each, using Component (Child)
relationship.  Each laptop now shows two child relationships, dependency to
a person and component to a product (QuickBooks).

Back to SAM console, opened license certificates, created 'Attached To'
relationships between license certificates and products (software) - all
five product CIs are listed as Related CIs on the console, but the deployed
numbers are still 0.

Ran compliance only job - Found nothing at all - No CIs with certs, no CIs
without certs, all four lines are 0s.

Set job to do review and connect again - Found 5 CIs with no certs.  Back to
SAM console, the job disconnected all five product CIs again from the
license certifications.

 

Something is still throwing off the license engine.  Again, is there
anywhere in the documentation that explains what the License Engine uses to
connect so I can check these details myself?  The Product CIs and license
certificates have the exact same categorization.  Why isn't it accepting the
'Attached To' relationship I create manually?

 

Do I have to use the license engine in order to confirm these connections
(set the deployed values)?  In this example, three specific items of
software are supposed to be attached to one license cert, and two to another
- if the license engine just maps whatever matches, how will I make sure it
doesn't choose the wrong ones?

 

 

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS

ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI
48106-1346 USA | 734.997.4777 

kelly.lo...@proquest.com

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mori, Toshiyasu
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

 

** 

Logan,

 

1.   Please relate People to parent CI (Computer System) not Software
Asset CI with Used by role (then you should see Person is associated to the
Computer System Relationships table, RLE rule checks Person relationship
when work with Per copy license type).

2.   CI Type BMC_Application is not Software Asset CI Type it doesn't
support RLE engine rule, you should choose either of CI Types from System
Component - Product, Package, Operating System, Patch, System Software,
System - Software Server as Software CI.

3.   if you use Purchase Line item UI to create line item, it will give
you message to select Contract and/or license certificate when CI Type was
chosen Software Asset CI.

 

Toshiyasu

Asset management QA lead, BMC Software

 

 

---

Toshiyasu Mori (Charles) 

ITSM QA Engineer, Service Support Dept

Room 2403, 91 E. Tasman Dr, 

San Jose, CA 95134, U.S.A 

Tel: 1-408-571-7270  Fax: 1-408-571-7001  

BMC Software  www.bmc.com http://www.bmc.com/ 

toshiyasu_m...@bmc.com

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:00 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

 

** 

We will be using an outside product for procurement, so I am testing the
process of adding software and licenses on ARS/ITSM 7.6.4.

 

Following the instructions in the Asset Management User guide, I have
created Application CIs and related them to users, and created a software
contract and license certificates, and I have used the 'Search for Existing
Record to Relate' function on the 'Software Assets' tab of the license
certificates to relate the software CIs (Application CI type).  But this
does not change the deployment numbers on the certificate.

 

When I run the license engine job (does a full check on all CIs for this
company), it removes

Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-05 Thread Logan, Kelly
I did get the license engine to match up - I had updated the Market Version to 
be Pro / 12 instead of matching the 'Model/Version' value of Pro / 12.0 in 
keeping with the documented best practice so that I could have several versions 
(Pro /12.1, Pro / 12.2, etc.) that were all considered the same as far as 
licensing was concerned.  Once I updated the 'Related Product Categorization' 
in the License Certificate, the engine did match certs to products.

But this brings me back to the primary questions and the reason I wanted to do 
this manually:  The engine did not match them correctly.  Here is the situation:

We have two 3-person license certificates ...-421 and ...-665, based off 
the same software contract.
We have five users currently licensed, three on ...-665 and two on ...-421.
Who (which product CI) goes on which (certificate) is already set in our 
records and needs to be set the same in Remedy.
In the Asset Mgmt. User guide, it says that you can manually attach certs to 
products in this way, and then run the license engine.
I manually attached the certs to the products as above, the correct three on 
...-665 and the correct two on ...-421.
When I run the engine job, instead of using the connections already there, it 
destroys those, then drops all five products onto the ...-665 cert, pushing 
it out of compliance.  Is this normal?

Isn't there some way to tell the engine to just validate what is already there? 
 If I have five different certificates, each bought at different times for 
different people, how do I keep the license engine from randomly distributing 
these entries every time it runs???


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Romain
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:49 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
The license certificate and CI's need to have the same Company value as well as 
matching categorisations.

You don't need to relate the certificates to the CI's, the engine will do that 
for you.


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: 05 January 2012 16:37
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
Still not getting a license connect.  Here's what I tried:

Redefined Quickbooks software as a Product CI type.
Updated the categorization in the license certificates.
Created five software instances (Product CI), QuickBooks-1 to 05.
Created five laptops (Computer System CI), related them to people (Dependency - 
Used By), added software, one to each, using Component (Child) relationship.  
Each laptop now shows two child relationships, dependency to a person and 
component to a product (QuickBooks).
Back to SAM console, opened license certificates, created 'Attached To' 
relationships between license certificates and products (software) - all five 
product CIs are listed as Related CIs on the console, but the deployed numbers 
are still 0.
Ran compliance only job - Found nothing at all - No CIs with certs, no CIs 
without certs, all four lines are 0s.
Set job to do review and connect again - Found 5 CIs with no certs.  Back to 
SAM console, the job disconnected all five product CIs again from the license 
certifications.

Something is still throwing off the license engine.  Again, is there anywhere 
in the documentation that explains what the License Engine uses to connect so I 
can check these details myself?  The Product CIs and license certificates have 
the exact same categorization.  Why isn't it accepting the 'Attached To' 
relationship I create manually?

Do I have to use the license engine in order to confirm these connections (set 
the deployed values)?  In this example, three specific items of software are 
supposed to be attached to one license cert, and two to another - if the 
license engine just maps whatever matches, how will I make sure it doesn't 
choose the wrong ones?


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
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Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-05 Thread Mori, Toshiyasu
Logan,


1.   SAM console Certificate and related CIs (or Unrelated CIs there are 
three tables in the Console) is only supporting RLE engine running results not 
manually adding Software Asset CIs (no matter what relationship type, Attached 
To, or other relationship type), that is as design. You should use license 
engine to confirm the connections (relationships).

2.   Please choose license Job type to ALL instead of COMPLIANCE if haven't 
gotten any CI connection before.

3.   Asset Management document have listed trouble shooting about not found 
CI connection or compliance status (deploy number) results are not expected.

Please double check these

(1)Make sure Software Asset CI records (Product) has the same Company as 
License Certificate and License Job

(2)Make sure that license type using in License Certificate is the same as 
License Job (e.g. Per copy)

(3)Make sure the License Certificate status is Active and Connect to Engine 
flag changes to Yes in Certificate form, and save the changes.

(4)Make sure that License Job qualification covers what you want (you can 
leave product name, market version, tier 1, 2, 3 fields empty so RLE engine 
will check, make connection and calculate deploy number in a large scope of CI 
may take a little longer).

4.   You can verify log to check connection but the log is more use for 
trouble shooting (error identification).

Charles

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
Still not getting a license connect.  Here's what I tried:

Redefined Quickbooks software as a Product CI type.
Updated the categorization in the license certificates.
Created five software instances (Product CI), QuickBooks-1 to 05.
Created five laptops (Computer System CI), related them to people (Dependency - 
Used By), added software, one to each, using Component (Child) relationship.  
Each laptop now shows two child relationships, dependency to a person and 
component to a product (QuickBooks).
Back to SAM console, opened license certificates, created 'Attached To' 
relationships between license certificates and products (software) - all five 
product CIs are listed as Related CIs on the console, but the deployed numbers 
are still 0.
Ran compliance only job - Found nothing at all - No CIs with certs, no CIs 
without certs, all four lines are 0s.
Set job to do review and connect again - Found 5 CIs with no certs.  Back to 
SAM console, the job disconnected all five product CIs again from the license 
certifications.

Something is still throwing off the license engine.  Again, is there anywhere 
in the documentation that explains what the License Engine uses to connect so I 
can check these details myself?  The Product CIs and license certificates have 
the exact same categorization.  Why isn't it accepting the 'Attached To' 
relationship I create manually?

Do I have to use the license engine in order to confirm these connections (set 
the deployed values)?  In this example, three specific items of software are 
supposed to be attached to one license cert, and two to another - if the 
license engine just maps whatever matches, how will I make sure it doesn't 
choose the wrong ones?


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mori, Toshiyasu
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
Logan,


1.   Please relate People to parent CI (Computer System) not Software Asset 
CI with Used by role (then you should see Person is associated to the Computer 
System Relationships table, RLE rule checks Person relationship when work with 
Per copy license type).

2.   CI Type BMC_Application is not Software Asset CI Type it doesn't 
support RLE engine rule, you should choose either of CI Types from System 
Component - Product, Package, Operating System, Patch, System Software, System 
- Software Server as Software CI.

3.   if you use Purchase Line item UI to create line item, it will give you 
message to select Contract and/or license certificate when CI Type was chosen 
Software Asset CI.

Toshiyasu
Asset

Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-05 Thread Peter Romain
If you create a new license contract with the same categorisation as one
that exists then you should have been given the option to relate them
together.

 

This takes care of situations where you may have bought some licenses then
later bought some more for the same software.

 

If you do this then the engine will relate the CI's it finds to the first
certificate and, when the number related equals the number on the
certificate, relate the rest to the second certificate.

 

You can't specify exactly which CI's connect to which certificate but you
can specify which order the related certificates are used in (e.g. the one
with the cheapest maintenance rate first)

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: 05 January 2012 18:06
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

 

** 

I did get the license engine to match up - I had updated the Market Version
to be Pro / 12 instead of matching the 'Model/Version' value of Pro /
12.0 in keeping with the documented best practice so that I could have
several versions (Pro /12.1, Pro / 12.2, etc.) that were all considered the
same as far as licensing was concerned.  Once I updated the 'Related Product
Categorization' in the License Certificate, the engine did match certs to
products.

 

But this brings me back to the primary questions and the reason I wanted to
do this manually:  The engine did not match them correctly.  Here is the
situation:

 

We have two 3-person license certificates .-421 and .-665, based off the
same software contract.

We have five users currently licensed, three on .-665 and two on .-421.

Who (which product CI) goes on which (certificate) is already set in our
records and needs to be set the same in Remedy.

In the Asset Mgmt. User guide, it says that you can manually attach certs to
products in this way, and then run the license engine.

I manually attached the certs to the products as above, the correct three on
.-665 and the correct two on .-421.

When I run the engine job, instead of using the connections already there,
it destroys those, then drops all five products onto the .-665 cert,
pushing it out of compliance.  Is this normal?

 

Isn't there some way to tell the engine to just validate what is already
there?  If I have five different certificates, each bought at different
times for different people, how do I keep the license engine from randomly
distributing these entries every time it runs???  

 

 

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS

ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI
48106-1346 USA | 734.997.4777 

kelly.lo...@proquest.com

www.proquest.com 

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Romain
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:49 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

 

** 

The license certificate and CI's need to have the same Company value as well
as matching categorisations.

 

You don't need to relate the certificates to the CI's, the engine will do
that for you.

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: 05 January 2012 16:37
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

 

** 

Still not getting a license connect.  Here's what I tried:

 

Redefined Quickbooks software as a Product CI type.

Updated the categorization in the license certificates.

Created five software instances (Product CI), QuickBooks-1 to 05.

Created five laptops (Computer System CI), related them to people
(Dependency - Used By), added software, one to each, using Component (Child)
relationship.  Each laptop now shows two child relationships, dependency to
a person and component to a product (QuickBooks).

Back to SAM console, opened license certificates, created 'Attached To'
relationships between license certificates and products (software) - all
five product CIs are listed as Related CIs on the console, but the deployed
numbers are still 0.

Ran compliance only job - Found nothing at all - No CIs with certs, no CIs
without certs, all four lines are 0s.

Set job to do review and connect again - Found 5 CIs with no certs.  Back to
SAM console, the job disconnected all five product CIs again from the
license certifications.

 

Something is still throwing off the license engine.  Again, is there
anywhere in the documentation that explains what

Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-05 Thread Mori, Toshiyasu
Logan,
A small correction, in (3) change status of License Certificate to Executed 
(not Active as it doesn't provide such status value, sorry) and make sure 
Engine connection is Yes and save the update.

Toshiyasu

From: Mori, Toshiyasu
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

Logan,


1.   SAM console Certificate and related CIs (or Unrelated CIs there are 
three tables in the Console) is only supporting RLE engine running results not 
manually adding Software Asset CIs (no matter what relationship type, Attached 
To, or other relationship type), that is as design. You should use license 
engine to confirm the connections (relationships).

2.   Please choose license Job type to ALL instead of COMPLIANCE if haven't 
gotten any CI connection before.

3.   Asset Management document have listed trouble shooting about not found 
CI connection or compliance status (deploy number) results are not expected.

Please double check these

(1)Make sure Software Asset CI records (Product) has the same Company as 
License Certificate and License Job

(2)Make sure that license type using in License Certificate is the same as 
License Job (e.g. Per copy)

(3)Make sure the License Certificate status is Active and Connect to Engine 
flag changes to Yes in Certificate form, and save the changes.

(4)Make sure that License Job qualification covers what you want (you can 
leave product name, market version, tier 1, 2, 3 fields empty so RLE engine 
will check, make connection and calculate deploy number in a large scope of CI 
may take a little longer).

4.   You can verify log to check connection but the log is more use for 
trouble shooting (error identification).

Charles

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Logan, Kelly
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
Still not getting a license connect.  Here's what I tried:

Redefined Quickbooks software as a Product CI type.
Updated the categorization in the license certificates.
Created five software instances (Product CI), QuickBooks-1 to 05.
Created five laptops (Computer System CI), related them to people (Dependency - 
Used By), added software, one to each, using Component (Child) relationship.  
Each laptop now shows two child relationships, dependency to a person and 
component to a product (QuickBooks).
Back to SAM console, opened license certificates, created 'Attached To' 
relationships between license certificates and products (software) - all five 
product CIs are listed as Related CIs on the console, but the deployed numbers 
are still 0.
Ran compliance only job - Found nothing at all - No CIs with certs, no CIs 
without certs, all four lines are 0s.
Set job to do review and connect again - Found 5 CIs with no certs.  Back to 
SAM console, the job disconnected all five product CIs again from the license 
certifications.

Something is still throwing off the license engine.  Again, is there anywhere 
in the documentation that explains what the License Engine uses to connect so I 
can check these details myself?  The Product CIs and license certificates have 
the exact same categorization.  Why isn't it accepting the 'Attached To' 
relationship I create manually?

Do I have to use the license engine in order to confirm these connections (set 
the deployed values)?  In this example, three specific items of software are 
supposed to be attached to one license cert, and two to another - if the 
license engine just maps whatever matches, how will I make sure it doesn't 
choose the wrong ones?


Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
www.proquest.com

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mori, Toshiyasu
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
Logan,


1.   Please relate People to parent CI (Computer System) not Software Asset 
CI with Used by role (then you should see Person is associated to the Computer 
System Relationships table, RLE rule checks Person relationship when work with 
Per copy license type).

2.   CI Type BMC_Application is not Software Asset CI Type it doesn't 
support RLE engine

Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-05 Thread Logan, Kelly
Thanks Peter, that did work.  Hopefully specifying the certificate a user is on 
won't be an issue.  (I was able to go into the certificates and use the 'Manage 
Groups'

On a related note, now that I understand how critical 'Market Version' is - Am 
I missing it on the Data Management tool spreadsheets for 7.6, or do I have to 
go in an set it manually for the software after I load it in?


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If you create a new license contract with the same categorisation as one that 
exists then you should have been given the option to relate them together.

This takes care of situations where you may have bought some licenses then 
later bought some more for the same software.

If you do this then the engine will relate the CI's it finds to the first 
certificate and, when the number related equals the number on the certificate, 
relate the rest to the second certificate.

You can't specify exactly which CI's connect to which certificate but you can 
specify which order the related certificates are used in (e.g. the one with the 
cheapest maintenance rate first)

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Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

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I did get the license engine to match up - I had updated the Market Version to 
be Pro / 12 instead of matching the 'Model/Version' value of Pro / 12.0 in 
keeping with the documented best practice so that I could have several versions 
(Pro /12.1, Pro / 12.2, etc.) that were all considered the same as far as 
licensing was concerned.  Once I updated the 'Related Product Categorization' 
in the License Certificate, the engine did match certs to products.

But this brings me back to the primary questions and the reason I wanted to do 
this manually:  The engine did not match them correctly.  Here is the situation:

We have two 3-person license certificates ...-421 and ...-665, based off 
the same software contract.
We have five users currently licensed, three on ...-665 and two on ...-421.
Who (which product CI) goes on which (certificate) is already set in our 
records and needs to be set the same in Remedy.
In the Asset Mgmt. User guide, it says that you can manually attach certs to 
products in this way, and then run the license engine.
I manually attached the certs to the products as above, the correct three on 
...-665 and the correct two on ...-421.
When I run the engine job, instead of using the connections already there, it 
destroys those, then drops all five products onto the ...-665 cert, pushing 
it out of compliance.  Is this normal?

Isn't there some way to tell the engine to just validate what is already there? 
 If I have five different certificates, each bought at different times for 
different people, how do I keep the license engine from randomly distributing 
these entries every time it runs???


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Peter Romain
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Subject: Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

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The license certificate and CI's need to have the same Company value as well as 
matching categorisations.

You don't need to relate the certificates to the CI's, the engine will do that 
for you.


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Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-04 Thread Logan, Kelly
We will be using an outside product for procurement, so I am testing the 
process of adding software and licenses on ARS/ITSM 7.6.4.

Following the instructions in the Asset Management User guide, I have created 
Application CIs and related them to users, and created a software contract and 
license certificates, and I have used the 'Search for Existing Record to 
Relate' function on the 'Software Assets' tab of the license certificates to 
relate the software CIs (Application CI type).  But this does not change the 
deployment numbers on the certificate.

When I run the license engine job (does a full check on all CIs for this 
company), it removes this relationship and states that the CIs have no 
certificates.

What do I need to match to have the license engine link the Application CIs to 
the certificates?

Certificates
Company:  PQ-GIO
Status: Executed
License Type: Per copy
Related to Product Category:
   Manufacturer:  Intuit, Inc.
   Product Name:  QuickBooks
   Market Version:  12.0
   Cat 1:  Software
   Cat 2:  Application
   Cat 3:  Third Party

Application CIs
Company:  PQ-GIO
Status:  Deployed
Product Categorization -
Tier 1:  Software
Tier 2:  Application
Tier 3:  Third Party
Product Name:  QuickBooks
Model/Version:  Pro / 12.0
Manufacturer:  Intuit, Inc.
Financials - Cost Entries:  License Certificate listed, Association Type 
Secondary, with the correct LC#

Note that when I didn't have the market version set, I couldn't put in the 
related product categorization on the certificate, the most I could get was the 
Manufacturer and the Product Name.  When this was all that was set, the License 
Engine run would say either the CIs had no certificates or that they had 
multiple (some of each), with no rhyme or reason that I could discern for which 
it picked.

Any idea what I am missing here?

Is there anything that documents that basic steps and requirements to manually 
enter a new piece of software and a license for it?

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
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Re: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

2012-01-04 Thread Mori, Toshiyasu
Logan,


1.   Please relate People to parent CI (Computer System) not Software Asset 
CI with Used by role (then you should see Person is associated to the Computer 
System Relationships table, RLE rule checks Person relationship when work with 
Per copy license type).

2.   CI Type BMC_Application is not Software Asset CI Type it doesn't 
support RLE engine rule, you should choose either of CI Types from System 
Component - Product, Package, Operating System, Patch, System Software, System 
- Software Server as Software CI.

3.   if you use Purchase Line item UI to create line item, it will give you 
message to select Contract and/or license certificate when CI Type was chosen 
Software Asset CI.

Toshiyasu
Asset management QA lead, BMC Software


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ITSM QA Engineer, Service Support Dept
Room 2403, 91 E. Tasman Dr,
San Jose, CA 95134, U.S.A
Tel: 1-408-571-7270  Fax: 1-408-571-7001
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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:00 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Asset Management - Manual add software, license

**
We will be using an outside product for procurement, so I am testing the 
process of adding software and licenses on ARS/ITSM 7.6.4.

Following the instructions in the Asset Management User guide, I have created 
Application CIs and related them to users, and created a software contract and 
license certificates, and I have used the 'Search for Existing Record to 
Relate' function on the 'Software Assets' tab of the license certificates to 
relate the software CIs (Application CI type).  But this does not change the 
deployment numbers on the certificate.

When I run the license engine job (does a full check on all CIs for this 
company), it removes this relationship and states that the CIs have no 
certificates.

What do I need to match to have the license engine link the Application CIs to 
the certificates?

Certificates
Company:  PQ-GIO
Status: Executed
License Type: Per copy
Related to Product Category:
   Manufacturer:  Intuit, Inc.
   Product Name:  QuickBooks
   Market Version:  12.0
   Cat 1:  Software
   Cat 2:  Application
   Cat 3:  Third Party

Application CIs
Company:  PQ-GIO
Status:  Deployed
Product Categorization -
Tier 1:  Software
Tier 2:  Application
Tier 3:  Third Party
Product Name:  QuickBooks
Model/Version:  Pro / 12.0
Manufacturer:  Intuit, Inc.
Financials - Cost Entries:  License Certificate listed, Association Type 
Secondary, with the correct LC#

Note that when I didn't have the market version set, I couldn't put in the 
related product categorization on the certificate, the most I could get was the 
Manufacturer and the Product Name.  When this was all that was set, the License 
Engine run would say either the CIs had no certificates or that they had 
multiple (some of each), with no rhyme or reason that I could discern for which 
it picked.

Any idea what I am missing here?

Is there anything that documents that basic steps and requirements to manually 
enter a new piece of software and a license for it?

Kelly Logan, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy), GMS
ProQuest | 789 E. Eisenhower Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 | Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 
USA | 734.997.4777
kelly.lo...@proquest.commailto:kelly.lo...@proquest.com
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