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Dates have not been set yet. Actually just got back from vacation in Hawaii. I'm waiting to hear from a sponsor. Will likely be May-June timeframe. Susan On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:07 PM, michael campbell soup...@hotmail.comwrote: ** Susan, you got any updates on this? I think you were looking at something in March, maybe a two day event. Anything to share with the group? mike __Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: Where the Answers Are html___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
Re: Chicago SUPER mid-west RUG
Susan, you got any updates on this? I think you were looking at something in March, maybe a two day event. Anything to share with the group? mike ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: Where the Answers Are
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Hello Susan, I think that Mike is on to something. We all use the annual UserWorld event to network with other Remedy professionals. This may be a prime opportunity to boost our local User Groups and provide a cost effective solution within our Region. Thanks, Dave Davis -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of michael campbell Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 17:02 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Chicago SUPER mid-west RUG ** Susan, lets plan on maybe expanding your mid-west rug in chicago into a couple day deal. I think I can get RMI Solutions to do some training and I might be able to get a couple sponsors to pay for that training. I understand why BMC made the decision they did, but I think we can still get alot of interest for a Green RUG meeting in Chicago this fall. Might have to be a thursday night thru saturday venue. I think there are several BMC partners that will also participate and I don't think we need to scrap this thing too fast. Even if we only get a couple hundred folks for two days of hard Remedy knowledge transfer it would be good. thoughts Mike Campbell Dev Technology Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:40:47 -0600 From: Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ** I'm disappointed, but alarmingly I also find I'm not surprised. Since these are my education dollars allotment I am at least thankful they are letting us know early so that if we want to pursue another education direction we can plan that. Lost those dollars last year. We'll have to step up our regional RUG activity. I've already put in motion the planning stages for one for MidWest RUG in the Chicago area. Since 7.5 will be out in a month at least there will be something new to talk about. It's a shame that maybe the other sides of the BMC business are not strong enough to sustain UserWorld. It would be nice to go back to a simpler RUG format. Drop the bells and whistles, doesn't have to be huge, keep it simple, go back to the old playbook! Susan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Joe DeSouza joe_rem...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Exactly.. Instead of assuming that companies/customers will not patronize the event, they could have distributed an email opinion poll to its customers to get a feel of: 1) Whether they are willing to attend 2) Willing to attend and have the necessary financial resources allocated by the company towards such events 3) Opinion of the customers if they decided to cancel the event in wake of the current economic instability. I would think results of such a poll might have gone a long way in making an educated decision rather than arbitrarily canceling the event altogether under the assumption that they won't get the mileage they are looking for from an event such as this.. Clearly a decision such as this is shortsightedness on part of BMC's directors or management... My 2 cents.. Joe From: Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 3:40:30 PM Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards **David, I think the BUW as education angle was underestimated by BMC. How can we evangelize the new BMC stuff to our own companies if we don't get to see it and talk to the engineers? I think this decision was hasty and shortsighted. Rick Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Shellman, David Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:25:32 -0500 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards Susan, I was also signed up for User World 2008 and never received the attached information concerning User World 2009. Our company has cut back on a lot of things. However training is not one of them. They completely understand the need to keep folks current. For me User World is considered as part of my training as I have taken just about all the Remedy courses there are. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:20 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards ** FYI ... I had paid for UserWorld 2008 but I have not received the email described below. Susan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009
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I would hit up BMC as well and see what support they may be able to provide to the group, in light of the (2nd) cancellation of User World. Jeff Jeff Lockemy QMX Support Services -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Davis, David CTR NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane, Code 0552 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Chicago SUPER mid-west RUG Hello Susan, I think that Mike is on to something. We all use the annual UserWorld event to network with other Remedy professionals. This may be a prime opportunity to boost our local User Groups and provide a cost effective solution within our Region. Thanks, Dave Davis -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of michael campbell Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 17:02 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Chicago SUPER mid-west RUG ** Susan, lets plan on maybe expanding your mid-west rug in chicago into a couple day deal. I think I can get RMI Solutions to do some training and I might be able to get a couple sponsors to pay for that training. I understand why BMC made the decision they did, but I think we can still get alot of interest for a Green RUG meeting in Chicago this fall. Might have to be a thursday night thru saturday venue. I think there are several BMC partners that will also participate and I don't think we need to scrap this thing too fast. Even if we only get a couple hundred folks for two days of hard Remedy knowledge transfer it would be good. thoughts Mike Campbell Dev Technology Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:40:47 -0600 From: Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ** I'm disappointed, but alarmingly I also find I'm not surprised. Since these are my education dollars allotment I am at least thankful they are letting us know early so that if we want to pursue another education direction we can plan that. Lost those dollars last year. We'll have to step up our regional RUG activity. I've already put in motion the planning stages for one for MidWest RUG in the Chicago area. Since 7.5 will be out in a month at least there will be something new to talk about. It's a shame that maybe the other sides of the BMC business are not strong enough to sustain UserWorld. It would be nice to go back to a simpler RUG format. Drop the bells and whistles, doesn't have to be huge, keep it simple, go back to the old playbook! Susan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Joe DeSouza joe_rem...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Exactly.. Instead of assuming that companies/customers will not patronize the event, they could have distributed an email opinion poll to its customers to get a feel of: 1) Whether they are willing to attend 2) Willing to attend and have the necessary financial resources allocated by the company towards such events 3) Opinion of the customers if they decided to cancel the event in wake of the current economic instability. I would think results of such a poll might have gone a long way in making an educated decision rather than arbitrarily canceling the event altogether under the assumption that they won't get the mileage they are looking for from an event such as this.. Clearly a decision such as this is shortsightedness on part of BMC's directors or management... My 2 cents.. Joe From: Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 3:40:30 PM Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards **David, I think the BUW as education angle was underestimated by BMC. How can we evangelize the new BMC stuff to our own companies if we don't get to see it and talk to the engineers? I think this decision was hasty and shortsighted. Rick Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Shellman, David Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:25:32 -0500 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards Susan, I was also signed up for User World 2008 and never received the attached information concerning User World 2009. Our company has cut back on a lot of things. However training is not one of them. They completely understand the need to keep folks current. For me User World is considered as part of my training as I have taken just about all the Remedy courses there are. Dave
Chicago SUPER mid-west RUG
Susan, lets plan on maybe expanding your mid-west rug in chicago into a couple day deal. I think I can get RMI Solutions to do some training and I might be able to get a couple sponsors to pay for that training. I understand why BMC made the decision they did, but I think we can still get alot of interest for a Green RUG meeting in Chicago this fall. Might have to be a thursday night thru saturday venue. I think there are several BMC partners that will also participate and I don't think we need to scrap this thing too fast. Even if we only get a couple hundred folks for two days of hard Remedy knowledge transfer it would be good. thoughts Mike Campbell Dev Technology Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:40:47 -0600From: Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist AwardsTo: arsl...@arslist.org** I'm disappointed, but alarmingly I also find I'm not surprised. Since these are my education dollars allotment I am at least thankful they are letting us know early so that if we want to pursue another education direction we can plan that. Lost those dollars last year. We'll have to step up our regional RUG activity. I've already put in motion the planning stages for one for MidWest RUG in the Chicago area. Since 7.5 will be out in a month at least there will be something new to talk about. It's a shame that maybe the other sides of the BMC business are not strong enough to sustain UserWorld. It would be nice to go back to a simpler RUG format. Drop the bells and whistles, doesn't have to be huge, keep it simple, go back to the old playbook! Susan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Joe DeSouza joe_rem...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Exactly.. Instead of assuming that companies/customers will not patronize the event, they could have distributed an email opinion poll to its customers to get a feel of: 1) Whether they are willing to attend 2) Willing to attend and have the necessary financial resources allocated by the company towards such events 3) Opinion of the customers if they decided to cancel the event in wake of the current economic instability. I would think results of such a poll might have gone a long way in making an educated decision rather than arbitrarily canceling the event altogether under the assumption that they won't get the mileage they are looking for from an event such as this.. Clearly a decision such as this is shortsightedness on part of BMC's directors or management... My 2 cents.. Joe From: Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.comTo: arsl...@arslist.orgsent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 3:40:30 PM Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards**David, I think the BUW as education angle was underestimated by BMC. How can we evangelize the new BMC stuff to our own companies if we don't get to see it and talk to the engineers?I think this decision was hasty and shortsighted.Rick Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Shellman, David Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:25:32 -0500To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards Susan, I was also signed up for User World 2008 and never received the attached information concerning User World 2009. Our company has cut back on a lot of things. However training is not one of them. They completely understand the need to keep folks current. For me User World is considered as part of my training as I have taken just about all the Remedy courses there are. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Susan PalmerSent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:20 PMTo: arsl...@arslist.orgsubject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards ** FYI ... I had paid for UserWorld 2008 but I have not received the email described below. Susan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com wrote: ** FYI, below is the official statement on the issue. It was an E-mail sent out to folks who signed up for UserWorld 2008. I will post this, but I have no further information on the topic so please do not question me on things like Why weren't non-participants notified?, Why isn't this posted on the UserWorld website?, Why was the decision made?, etc. The statement below was made by a VP of Marketing at BMC and thus are not my own words - nor did I participate in the decision. The statement applies to the deferred (and now cancelled) UserWorld 2008, UserWorld in EMEA for 2009 and UserWorld at the end of 2009. We at BMC Software appreciate that the current economic situation has made it difficult for many of our customers, partners, and vendors to allocate the funds and staff time required for off-site employee training and continued education. With that in mind, we have decided not to host the BMC UserWorld conference for 2009.Since the focus of BMC UserWorld always has
Re: Chicago SUPER mid-west RUG
I think we're on our way. I believe I may have a basic sponsor lined up, don't want to publish until there is a commitment but I'm confident. I was thinking more like March and you won't see much green here then ! Anyone have ideas please send them to me at suzanpal...@gmail.com or spal...@shoppertrak.com Would certainly love the input!! We'll also be using our website http://www.remedyusergroups.com/site/ once I get a little more info together. In the meantime, you all might want to consider registering there if you haven't already and be sure to indicate MWRUG under news. Thanks, Susan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:01 PM, michael campbell soup...@hotmail.comwrote: ** Susan, lets plan on maybe expanding your mid-west rug in chicago into a couple day deal. I think I can get RMI Solutions to do some training and I might be able to get a couple sponsors to pay for that training. I understand why BMC made the decision they did, but I think we can still get alot of interest for a Green RUG meeting in Chicago this fall. Might have to be a thursday night thru saturday venue. I think there are several BMC partners that will also participate and I don't think we need to scrap this thing too fast. Even if we only get a couple hundred folks for two days of hard Remedy knowledge transfer it would be good. thoughts Mike Campbell Dev Technology -- Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:40:47 -0600 From: Subject: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ** I'm disappointed, but alarmingly I also find I'm not surprised. Since these are my education dollars allotment I am at least thankful they are letting us know early so that if we want to pursue another education direction we can plan that. Lost those dollars last year. We'll have to step up our regional RUG activity. I've already put in motion the planning stages for one for MidWest RUG in the Chicago area. Since 7.5 will be out in a month at least there will be something new to talk about. It's a shame that maybe the other sides of the BMC business are not strong enough to sustain UserWorld. It would be nice to go back to a simpler RUG format. Drop the bells and whistles, doesn't have to be huge, keep it simple, go back to the old playbook! Susan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Joe DeSouza joe_rem...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Exactly.. Instead of assuming that companies/customers will not patronize the event, they could have distributed an email opinion poll to its customers to get a feel of: 1) Whether they are willing to attend 2) Willing to attend and have the necessary financial resources allocated by the company towards such events 3) Opinion of the customers if they decided to cancel the event in wake of the current economic instability. I would think results of such a poll might have gone a long way in making an educated decision rather than arbitrarily canceling the event altogether under the assumption that they won't get the mileage they are looking for from an event such as this.. Clearly a decision such as this is shortsightedness on part of BMC's directors or management... My 2 cents.. Joe -- *From:* Rick Cook remedyr...@gmail.com *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2009 3:40:30 PM *Subject:* Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards **David, I think the BUW as education angle was underestimated by BMC. How can we evangelize the new BMC stuff to our own companies if we don't get to see it and talk to the engineers? I think this decision was hasty and shortsighted. Rick Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From*: Shellman, David *Date*: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:25:32 -0500 *To*: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject*: Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards Susan, I was also signed up for User World 2008 and never received the attached information concerning User World 2009. Our company has cut back on a lot of things. However training is not one of them. They completely understand the need to keep folks current. For me User World is considered as part of my training as I have taken just about all the Remedy courses there are. Dave -- *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer *Sent:* Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:20 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Re: Other shoe just fell, no UserWorld 2009, so on with the ARSlist Awards ** FYI ... I had paid for UserWorld 2008 but I have not received the email described below. Susan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.comwrote: ** FYI, below is the official statement on the issue. It was an E-mail sent out to folks who signed up for UserWorld 2008. I
