Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Tony Worthington
And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1 anyway) 
command line options allowed for the export of individual objects. 

Integrating, p197

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Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Carey Matthew Black
Tony,

Yea... but what do you do if your server is not a windows OS? :(

The OS options are:
   Windows
vs
   Solaris
   AIX
   HP-UX
   RedHat
   SuSe

So that is a design choice that offers only 1 out of 6 supported
server platforms a feature. Even if that one platform is 80% of your
business, then that solution is only an 80% solution.


One of the mysteries of why that function was built into a client
instead of (or at least in addition to) a server side feature. A
server side feature could have lead to integrations with server side
Source Control systems. :) More advanced ARS application change
control/release management etc...


And do not get me started on how they did the use a Packinglist or
an XML file part of the command line options. G...

-- 
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BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.


On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony Worthington
tony.worthing...@kohls.com wrote:
 ** And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1 anyway)
 command line options allowed for the export of individual objects.

 Integrating, p197

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Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Robert Molenda
But in 7.5 the Developer Studio (AKA - Administrator Tool) is in Eclipse -
so in theory it should run just fine on non-windows-machines. (Note to
self - try installing it on my Fedora platform to check)...

IMHOAnd the admin tool seems to be a bit slow - versus a small java-app...
/IMHO

Robert

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Carey Matthew Black black@gmail.comwrote:

 Tony,

 Yea... but what do you do if your server is not a windows OS? :(

 The OS options are:
   Windows
vs
   Solaris
   AIX
   HP-UX
   RedHat
   SuSe

 So that is a design choice that offers only 1 out of 6 supported
 server platforms a feature. Even if that one platform is 80% of your
 business, then that solution is only an 80% solution.


 One of the mysteries of why that function was built into a client
 instead of (or at least in addition to) a server side feature. A
 server side feature could have lead to integrations with server side
 Source Control systems. :) More advanced ARS application change
 control/release management etc...


 And do not get me started on how they did the use a Packinglist or
 an XML file part of the command line options. G...

 --
 Carey Matthew Black
 BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
 ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

 Love, then teach
 Solution = People + Process + Tools
 Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.


 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony Worthington
 tony.worthing...@kohls.com wrote:
  ** And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1
 anyway)
  command line options allowed for the export of individual objects.
 
  Integrating, p197


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Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
There was a thread a short while back where someone had the Developer
Studio running in Eclipse on his Mac with no problems.

 

Fred

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Robert Molenda
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Subject: Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

 

But in 7.5 the Developer Studio (AKA - Administrator Tool) is in Eclipse
- so in theory it should run just fine on non-windows-machines. (Note
to self - try installing it on my Fedora platform to check)...

 

IMHOAnd the admin tool seems to be a bit slow - versus a small
java-app... /IMHO

 

Robert

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Carey Matthew Black
black@gmail.com wrote:

Tony,

Yea... but what do you do if your server is not a windows OS? :(

The OS options are:
  Windows
   vs
  Solaris
  AIX
  HP-UX
  RedHat
  SuSe

So that is a design choice that offers only 1 out of 6 supported
server platforms a feature. Even if that one platform is 80% of your
business, then that solution is only an 80% solution.

One of the mysteries of why that function was built into a client
instead of (or at least in addition to) a server side feature. A
server side feature could have lead to integrations with server side
Source Control systems. :) More advanced ARS application change
control/release management etc...

And do not get me started on how they did the use a Packinglist or
an XML file part of the command line options. G...


--
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony Worthington

tony.worthing...@kohls.com wrote:

 ** And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1
anyway)
 command line options allowed for the export of individual objects.

 Integrating, p197

 


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Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver

2009-05-22 Thread Robert Molenda
Yes - I remember that thread/message - but I guess I'm still old school
unless I do it and see it and touch it I'm not comfortable stating that
yes it works :)

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Grooms, Frederick W 
frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:

 **

 There was a thread a short while back where someone had the Developer
 Studio running in Eclipse on his Mac with no problems.



 Fred



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert Molenda
 *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 8:43 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Fw: Automating definition export using driver



 But in 7.5 the Developer Studio (AKA - Administrator Tool) is in Eclipse -
 so in theory it should run just fine on non-windows-machines. (Note to
 self - try installing it on my Fedora platform to check)...



 IMHOAnd the admin tool seems to be a bit slow - versus a small
 java-app... /IMHO



 Robert

 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Carey Matthew Black black@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Tony,

 Yea... but what do you do if your server is not a windows OS? :(

 The OS options are:
   Windows
vs
   Solaris
   AIX
   HP-UX
   RedHat
   SuSe

 So that is a design choice that offers only 1 out of 6 supported
 server platforms a feature. Even if that one platform is 80% of your
 business, then that solution is only an 80% solution.

 One of the mysteries of why that function was built into a client
 instead of (or at least in addition to) a server side feature. A
 server side feature could have lead to integrations with server side
 Source Control systems. :) More advanced ARS application change
 control/release management etc...

 And do not get me started on how they did the use a Packinglist or
 an XML file part of the command line options. G...


 --
 Carey Matthew Black
 BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (RSP)
 ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

 Love, then teach
 Solution = People + Process + Tools
 Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.

 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony Worthington

 tony.worthing...@kohls.com wrote:

  ** And thanks to Jim Bruce  I didn't realize that aradmin (7.1
 anyway)
  command line options allowed for the export of individual objects.
 
  Integrating, p197


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