Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway
Perhaps (or perhaps not) an would be option to use the JSR-168 capability of AR System which would give you the ability to display a form as a portlet. While not really a "form within a form", it could enable you to create a portal that shows multiple forms at the same time... 14-Oct-2006 Displaying an AR System Form in a PortletPDF <http://www.bmc.com/supportu/documents/56/86/65686/65686.pdf> This one is definitely web based - which you said you didn't want... but just throwing out ideas in case it sparks some other solution for you. -David J. Easter Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development BMC Software, Inc. The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Mark Lev Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 11:18 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway If it didn't require the user reauthenticating, yes that would be an option, but I want to display fields, not just graphical. It would be nice if the data visualization control allowed a form view to be selected. That would solve my problem without me learning a new program language so I can display Remedy info in Remedy, in a format that I need to. BTW, the purpose of this is that the user has to load form, select, load form, etc to go around the workflow, data trail. OR, I have to build customized views for each combination. If I could load a form with in a DV control, or likewise, I can have them click, and load all within one form, streamlining customizations and user experience. I guess Frames within a web page is the best analogy I can make. Thanks, Mark Mark Lev Sr. Systems Consultant 703-672-4390 732-859-5827 (cell) mark@rightstarsystems.com --- RightStar Systems, Inc. 100 East Street SE, Suite 202 Vienna, VA 22180 USA --- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 2:10 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway Mark, Oh.. wait a second... you said "without use of web" hum DFV's require a Mid-Tier. :( Ref: Integrating-710.pdf pg114. " Mid Tier-based graphing solutions. It provides an efficient way to add graphical elements (such as flashboards) to AR System forms. This field provides the following benefits: " Sorry... I guess that idea is not an option for you. One advantage to the DVF's is that they have the users "credentials" available to them. So I would hope that you could find a way to pass that to the Mid-Tier to get the form (HTML/Javascript/CSS/etc..) and pass that back to the ARS client for the run time user. But it would require a Mid-Tier. Is that an option for you? -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Mark Lev wrote: > It would be sweet if there was a way to pull up a remedy form in the data > visualization control. > > I'll keep looking, if anyone else has ideas or knowledge, it would be greatly > appreciated. > > ARS 7.1 > ITSM 7.0.3 > Windows > MS SQL > > All patched to latest and greatest. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Carey > Matthew Black > Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 1:31 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway > > > > Mark, > > What ARS version? > > I think this can be done in ARS v7.1 or higher with a Data > Visualization. I have not done it, but it seems like it should be > possible. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Love, then teach > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Lev > wrote: >> This is likely something that cannot be done, but what the heck, can't hurt >> to ask. >> >> Anyone know how to embed a form within a form in the client without use of >> web? Perhaps some API or control or other mechanism exists to do this. >> >> An alternative is if someone can
Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway
If it didn't require the user reauthenticating, yes that would be an option, but I want to display fields, not just graphical. It would be nice if the data visualization control allowed a form view to be selected. That would solve my problem without me learning a new program language so I can display Remedy info in Remedy, in a format that I need to. BTW, the purpose of this is that the user has to load form, select, load form, etc to go around the workflow, data trail. OR, I have to build customized views for each combination. If I could load a form with in a DV control, or likewise, I can have them click, and load all within one form, streamlining customizations and user experience. I guess Frames within a web page is the best analogy I can make. Thanks, Mark Mark Lev Sr. Systems Consultant 703-672-4390 732-859-5827 (cell) mark@rightstarsystems.com --- RightStar Systems, Inc. 100 East Street SE, Suite 202 Vienna, VA 22180 USA --- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 2:10 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway Mark, Oh.. wait a second... you said "without use of web" hum DFV's require a Mid-Tier. :( Ref: Integrating-710.pdf pg114. " Mid Tier-based graphing solutions. It provides an efficient way to add graphical elements (such as flashboards) to AR System forms. This field provides the following benefits: " Sorry... I guess that idea is not an option for you. One advantage to the DVF's is that they have the users "credentials" available to them. So I would hope that you could find a way to pass that to the Mid-Tier to get the form (HTML/Javascript/CSS/etc..) and pass that back to the ARS client for the run time user. But it would require a Mid-Tier. Is that an option for you? -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Mark Lev wrote: > It would be sweet if there was a way to pull up a remedy form in the data > visualization control. > > I'll keep looking, if anyone else has ideas or knowledge, it would be greatly > appreciated. > > ARS 7.1 > ITSM 7.0.3 > Windows > MS SQL > > All patched to latest and greatest. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Carey > Matthew Black > Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 1:31 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway > > > > Mark, > > What ARS version? > > I think this can be done in ARS v7.1 or higher with a Data > Visualization. I have not done it, but it seems like it should be > possible. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Love, then teach > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Lev > wrote: >> This is likely something that cannot be done, but what the heck, can't hurt >> to ask. >> >> Anyone know how to embed a form within a form in the client without use of >> web? Perhaps some API or control or other mechanism exists to do this. >> >> An alternative is if someone can show me how to securely pass authentication >> from client to a web view so use doesn't have to reauthenticate, that may >> work. Again, not sure if this can be done... I need to pass parameters >> also, but that should not be as big an obstacle. >> >> Thanks, >> Mark ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway
Mark, Oh.. wait a second... you said "without use of web" hum DFV's require a Mid-Tier. :( Ref: Integrating-710.pdf pg114. " Mid Tier-based graphing solutions. It provides an efficient way to add graphical elements (such as flashboards) to AR System forms. This field provides the following benefits: " Sorry... I guess that idea is not an option for you. One advantage to the DVF's is that they have the users "credentials" available to them. So I would hope that you could find a way to pass that to the Mid-Tier to get the form (HTML/Javascript/CSS/etc..) and pass that back to the ARS client for the run time user. But it would require a Mid-Tier. Is that an option for you? -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Mark Lev wrote: > It would be sweet if there was a way to pull up a remedy form in the data > visualization control. > > I'll keep looking, if anyone else has ideas or knowledge, it would be greatly > appreciated. > > ARS 7.1 > ITSM 7.0.3 > Windows > MS SQL > > All patched to latest and greatest. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Carey > Matthew Black > Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 1:31 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway > > > > Mark, > > What ARS version? > > I think this can be done in ARS v7.1 or higher with a Data > Visualization. I have not done it, but it seems like it should be > possible. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Love, then teach > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Lev > wrote: >> This is likely something that cannot be done, but what the heck, can't hurt >> to ask. >> >> Anyone know how to embed a form within a form in the client without use of >> web? Perhaps some API or control or other mechanism exists to do this. >> >> An alternative is if someone can show me how to securely pass authentication >> from client to a web view so use doesn't have to reauthenticate, that may >> work. Again, not sure if this can be done... I need to pass parameters >> also, but that should not be as big an obstacle. >> >> Thanks, >> Mark ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway
What would be really nice is a Template Form Type; a form that you could setup a look and feel along with core fields that would replicate down to its related forms. So if you had a standard banner or certain fields like a standard navigation bar that should appear on multiple forms, you add those forms to the template. When the Template is updated the changes are reflected instantly through all the other forms. James Van Sickle Remedy Developer Office: 972-409-4902 Mobile: 214-263-9340 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Mark Lev Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:41 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Long shot, but I'll ask anyway It would be sweet if there was a way to pull up a remedy form in the data visualization control. I'll keep looking, if anyone else has ideas or knowledge, it would be greatly appreciated. ARS 7.1 ITSM 7.0.3 Windows MS SQL All patched to latest and greatest. Thanks, Mark From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 1:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway Mark, What ARS version? I think this can be done in ARS v7.1 or higher with a Data Visualization. I have not done it, but it seems like it should be possible. -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Lev wrote: > This is likely something that cannot be done, but what the heck, can't hurt to ask. > > Anyone know how to embed a form within a form in the client without use of web? Perhaps some API or control or other mechanism exists to do this. > > An alternative is if someone can show me how to securely pass authentication from client to a web view so use doesn't have to reauthenticate, that may work. Again, not sure if this can be done... I need to pass parameters also, but that should not be as big an obstacle. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _ The sender of this e-mail is a contractor to Commercial Metals Company or subsidiaries (collectively "CMC"). The sender is not an employee of CMC and has no authority, express or implied, to bind CMC to any transaction or contract. CMC allows contractors to utilize this email address extension only in the course of providing services specifically covered by the terms of their engagement. No other use is authorized. CMC expressly disclaims liability for any unauthorized use. _ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway
You could write some javascript that fires on load to create an IFRAME on the fly pointing to the sub-form. As it's in the same session, it shouldn't ask for re-authentication. -Kelly Kelly Heikkila :coderow ke...@coderow.com www.coderow.com On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Mark Lev wrote: It would be sweet if there was a way to pull up a remedy form in the data visualization control. I'll keep looking, if anyone else has ideas or knowledge, it would be greatly appreciated. ARS 7.1 ITSM 7.0.3 Windows MS SQL All patched to latest and greatest. Thanks, Mark From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 1:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway Mark, What ARS version? I think this can be done in ARS v7.1 or higher with a Data Visualization. I have not done it, but it seems like it should be possible. -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Lev > wrote: This is likely something that cannot be done, but what the heck, can't hurt to ask. Anyone know how to embed a form within a form in the client without use of web? Perhaps some API or control or other mechanism exists to do this. An alternative is if someone can show me how to securely pass authentication from client to a web view so use doesn't have to reauthenticate, that may work. Again, not sure if this can be done... I need to pass parameters also, but that should not be as big an obstacle. Thanks, Mark ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway
It would be sweet if there was a way to pull up a remedy form in the data visualization control. I'll keep looking, if anyone else has ideas or knowledge, it would be greatly appreciated. ARS 7.1 ITSM 7.0.3 Windows MS SQL All patched to latest and greatest. Thanks, Mark From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Fri 2/6/2009 1:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway Mark, What ARS version? I think this can be done in ARS v7.1 or higher with a Data Visualization. I have not done it, but it seems like it should be possible. -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Lev wrote: > This is likely something that cannot be done, but what the heck, can't hurt > to ask. > > Anyone know how to embed a form within a form in the client without use of > web? Perhaps some API or control or other mechanism exists to do this. > > An alternative is if someone can show me how to securely pass authentication > from client to a web view so use doesn't have to reauthenticate, that may > work. Again, not sure if this can be done... I need to pass parameters > also, but that should not be as big an obstacle. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Long shot, but I'll ask anyway
Mark, What ARS version? I think this can be done in ARS v7.1 or higher with a Data Visualization. I have not done it, but it seems like it should be possible. -- Carey Matthew Black BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Lev wrote: > This is likely something that cannot be done, but what the heck, can't hurt > to ask. > > Anyone know how to embed a form within a form in the client without use of > web? Perhaps some API or control or other mechanism exists to do this. > > An alternative is if someone can show me how to securely pass authentication > from client to a web view so use doesn't have to reauthenticate, that may > work. Again, not sure if this can be done... I need to pass parameters > also, but that should not be as big an obstacle. > > Thanks, > Mark > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
Long shot, but I'll ask anyway
This is likely something that cannot be done, but what the heck, can't hurt to ask. Anyone know how to embed a form within a form in the client without use of web? Perhaps some API or control or other mechanism exists to do this. An alternative is if someone can show me how to securely pass authentication from client to a web view so use doesn't have to reauthenticate, that may work. Again, not sure if this can be done... I need to pass parameters also, but that should not be as big an obstacle. Thanks, Mark ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: RMI Solutions ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
