Monday funny: Architectural advice

2012-03-05 Thread John Sundberg
Reading between the lines when somebody says Completely redesigned…

2 things should come to mind.

1) Current implementation must blow chunks
2) New implementation is untested



More lipstick please...

Hi-ya - karate chop!!!

-John

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Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice

2012-03-05 Thread Axton
Or it outgrew it's shoes, which means that it was being used in some way or
on a scale that was never intended.

From my observations: Someone writes something useful, but not very well
(it quickly fills a need).  Someone comes along and says, hey, that's
great, let's distribute it to the world.  It gets out there, then someone
else comes along and says, hey, let's make it do X, Y, and Z as well, since
it's in the same realm.  Someone adds X, Y, and Z, and all of the sudden
things start to fall apart.  Someone else comes along and says, this is
horrible; to get it to do what you are trying to do we need to toss it out
the window and design this thing from the ground up.

The intent at the final stage is to permanently address the issues, but the
process typically repeats itself.

Foresight is something for which there is more demand than supply.

Axton Grams

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:56 AM, John Sundberg 
john.sundb...@kineticdata.com wrote:

 **
 Reading between the lines when somebody says Completely redesigned…

 2 things should come to mind.

 1) Current implementation must blow chunks
 2) New implementation is untested



 More lipstick please...

 Hi-ya - karate chop!!!

 -John

 --
 John David Sundberg
 235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B
 St. Paul, MN 55101
 (651) 556-0930-work
 (651) 247-6766-cell
 (651) 695-8577-fax
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Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice

2012-03-05 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza

That’s the same thing as saying something is ‘New  Improved’.. how can 
something be new if its has been improved? Doesn’t it already have had existed 
to be improved? :-)

Joe

From: John Sundberg 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:56 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Monday funny: Architectural advice

** 
Reading between the lines when somebody says Completely redesigned…

2 things should come to mind.

1) Current implementation must blow chunks
2) New implementation is untested



More lipstick please...

Hi-ya - karate chop!!!

-John

-- 
John David Sundberg
235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B
St. Paul, MN 55101
(651) 556-0930-work
(651) 247-6766-cell
(651) 695-8577-fax
john.sundb...@kineticdata.com

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Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice

2012-03-05 Thread Gordon Frank


How about this one: 



15 minutes could save you 15% or more! 



15% of what? 



Coming from a Gecko doesn't really mean much to me. I think they should 
substitute a Caveman. Oh wait, they did!! :) 



Advertisers! You gotta love them! 



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From: Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 1:32:27 PM 
Subject: Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice 

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That’s the same thing as saying something is ‘New  Improved’.. how can 
something be new if its has been improved? Doesn’t it already have had existed 
to be improved? :-) 
  
Joe 


  

From: John Sundberg 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:56 AM 
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Monday funny: Architectural advice 
  
** 
Reading between the lines when somebody says Completely redesigned… 
  
2 things should come to mind. 
  
1) Current implementation must blow chunks 
2) New implementation is untested 
  
  
  
More lipstick please... 
  
Hi-ya - karate chop!!! 
  
-John 
  -- 
John David Sundberg 
235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B 
St. Paul, MN 55101 
(651) 556-0930 -work 
(651) 247-6766 -cell 
(651) 695-8577 -fax 
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Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice

2012-03-05 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
Maybe we should read that as – you don’t spend 15 minutes on the phone with our 
sales personnel, but just choose to buy an insurance policy online from us, you 
pay our full over inflated, obnoxious prices... But if you are a bargain hunter 
and call our 1-800 numbers and drive our sales forces mad for 15 minutes or so, 
they might give you a 15% discount over our originally quoted ridiculously high 
prices as it would start costing our sales team a little bit of money having 
you on the phone for more than that.. :-) Don’t push your luck beyond 15 
minutes though – we may hang up on ya...

Even a caveman can do that... we encourage you to do so too :-)

From: Gordon Frank 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:46 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice

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How about this one:



15 minutes could save you 15% or more!



15% of what?



Coming from a Gecko doesn't really mean much to me. I think they should 
substitute a Caveman. Oh wait, they did!! :)



Advertisers! You gotta love them!







From: Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 1:32:27 PM
Subject: Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice

** 


That’s the same thing as saying something is ‘New  Improved’.. how can 
something be new if its has been improved? Doesn’t it already have had existed 
to be improved? :-)

Joe

From: John Sundberg 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:56 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Monday funny: Architectural advice

** 
Reading between the lines when somebody says Completely redesigned…

2 things should come to mind.

1) Current implementation must blow chunks
2) New implementation is untested



More lipstick please...

Hi-ya - karate chop!!!

-John

-- 
John David Sundberg
235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B
St. Paul, MN 55101
(651) 556-0930-work
(651) 247-6766-cell
(651) 695-8577-fax
john.sundb...@kineticdata.com

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Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice

2012-03-05 Thread pritch
OK - Now you did it - I'm taking the bus home ... and you will not see me at 
next Saturdays social!

- Original Message -
From: Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 3:01:45 PM
Subject: Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice

** 


Maybe we should read that as – you don’t spend 15 minutes on the phone with our 
sales personnel, but just choose to buy an insurance policy online from us, you 
pay our full over inflated, obnoxious prices... But if you are a bargain hunter 
and call our 1-800 numbers and drive our sales forces mad for 15 minutes or so, 
they might give you a 15% discount over our originally quoted ridiculously high 
prices as it would start costing our sales team a little bit of money having 
you on the phone for more than that.. :-) Don’t push your luck beyond 15 
minutes though – we may hang up on ya... 
  
Even a caveman can do that... we encourage you to do so too :-) 


  

From: Gordon Frank 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:46 PM 
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice 
  
** 


How about this one: 

  

15 minutes could save you 15% or more! 

  

15% of what? 

  

Coming from a Gecko doesn't really mean much to me. I think they should 
substitute a Caveman. Oh wait, they did!! :) 

  

Advertisers! You gotta love them! 



- Original Message -


From: Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 1:32:27 PM 
Subject: Re: Monday funny: Architectural advice 

** 


  
That’s the same thing as saying something is ‘New  Improved’.. how can 
something be new if its has been improved? Doesn’t it already have had existed 
to be improved? :-) 
  
Joe 


  

From: John Sundberg 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:56 AM 
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Monday funny: Architectural advice 
  
** 
Reading between the lines when somebody says Completely redesigned… 
  
2 things should come to mind. 
  
1) Current implementation must blow chunks 
2) New implementation is untested 
  
  
  
More lipstick please... 
  
Hi-ya - karate chop!!! 
  
-John 
  -- 
John David Sundberg 
235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B 
St. Paul, MN 55101 
(651) 556-0930 -work 
(651) 247-6766 -cell 
(651) 695-8577 -fax 
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